Saturday, May 14, 2016

Vile




A new poll from something called, "Public Policy Polling" (an organization which, admittedly, I've never heard of before), informs me on this fine May morn that fifty-eight percent of the American people are aghast at the right wing's obstruction to President Obama's attempt to fill the vacant seat on the Supreme Court that came with the death of Justice-from-hell, Antonin Scalia, earlier this year. That's not meant to imply that forty-two percent of them are in favor of it. Predictably, ten to fifteen percent don't give a flying fuck one way or the other. This is as it should be, I suppose. America the indifferent. Rush shed his invective on thee. Life is a hoot.

The poll I refer to also informs us that fifty percent of the electorate are not likely to vote for any candidate in November who would deny the president the opportunity to perform what is, after all, his constitutional duty as chief-executive. This is also as it should be - given the warped mindset and ideological makeup of the mutant clowns currently inhabiting the House of Reprehensibles. They've never quite come to terms with what they perceive as "that evil, commie nigger" sleeping in the same, big WHITE house at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that was once occupied by their sainted, feeble-minded, failed "B" movie actor. Absurdist theater at its finest.

It is now 3:10 in the morning and I just now had an epiphany. I've had an awful lot of epiphanies lately. Consider this if you'll be kind enough:

In 1974, I thought that Richard Milhaus Nixon was the worst thing to happen to the office of the American presidency in history. And then....

....in 1981 along came a senile, plutocratic water-carrier named Ronald Reagan. All of the sudden, Nixon was looking pretty good. And then....

....out of the blue, in 2001, a disgusting lowlife with an even lower IQ, George Dubya Bush, blasted into town, and - LOW AND FREAKING BEHOLD! Reagan started to look comparatively competent. It was at that moment that I really believed (HONEST!) that the "party of Abraham Lincoln" had hit rock-bottom.

They hadn't hit rock-bottom. Oh, perish the thought, kind and gentle reader! In 2016 we are faced with Donald Trump as the presumptive Republican nominee - and George W. Bush is starting to look like a moderate.

WAIT! IT GETS BETTER STILL! Richard Nixon is starting to look like George Washington. I'm not making this stuff up! It kinda makes you wonder what they're gonna puke up in 2020, huh?

Have you noticed, perchance, that disgusting party's habit of lowering the bar, millimeter by millimeter, each election cycle over the last half century? Most of us have not noticed. Some of us have.

I need a drink.
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Suckers!
It's a given that the GOP will get their heads handed to them at the polls on November 8. This optimism is surely tempered by the by the knowledge that - barring miracle or scandal - Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. With donkeys like that, elephants are not necessary. Whom do you think Hillary's role model as chief-executive will be - FDR or Bill Clinton? Stupid goddamned Democrats. Abandon all hope for that idiotic party. I did eighteen years ago this month. What the hell are you waiting for?

I have this fantasy of living in a lighthouse - only it's not located at the edge of an ocean; this one is situated high atop a mountain. It's comfortable, secluded, nearly unreachable - and yet, I can see everything. No one bothers me. That would be sweet.

Life could be a dream. Sh-boom, baby!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

SUGGESTED VIEWING:

Charlie Chaplin with Eric Campbell, 1916
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Early in 1916, Charles Spencer Chaplin signed a contract to produce twelve two-reelers for the Mutual Film Company. The work he produced in 1916 and 1917 is generally regarded by film historians as some of the finest of his career. One-hundred years ago tomorrow, Charlie released his first in that series. It's called "The Floorwalker" and, a century later, it's still a scream. Here's a link to watch it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f4vsdW601M

The restoration of this one is amazing. A hundred years later - and nearly forty years after his death - we can't stop talking about Charlie Chaplin. This is a very good thing.

203 Comments:

At 1:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This "selection" - hard to even cast this rogue's gallery as an election - is really a referendum on whether those that find the time to vote attend the dumb classes or the dumber National Enquirer University. Every election is the most important in our lives, or so we are told. If the last 40 years of St. Ronnie, the Bushies, Cheney have not shown us anything else; it is that America is not immortal. So this year, cast you vote to try and only extend the inevitable mortality. Have a Nehi and Make 'Merica Grape Again!

 
At 7:13 PM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

I just am still waiting for the "Hope And Change" from the "Messiah"!

Now it turns out the shithead and Ben Rhodes, one of his chief national security aides, used very deceptive spin and manipulation to sell the Iran Nuclear Deal to the gullible public and media. Lyin Ben said "The average reporter we talked to is 27 years old and they literally know nothing."

So the dumb reporters just parrot Obama the bullshitters talking points, the way the global warming Chicken Littles parroted that quack Al Gore and High Priest of man made global warming.

Anyhow, Ben Rhodes is 39. He began advising Obama on foreign policy in 2009 at age 30. The man had no education or practical experience in the foreign policy sphere. This helps explain why Obama's foreign policy has been such a disaster.

And another performer in the Obama circus, Jonathon Gruber — the architect of Obamacare — mocked “the stupidity of the American voter” for not perceiving the ways in which the controversial health law concealed its true costs.

Some "Hope and Change". Who needs enemies when we have the current shithead in the White House? It won't be long before the Towelheads in Iran will have a nuclear bomb.

I'm sure Jimmy Carter loves Obama now that he won't be the worst president in American history.

 
At 8:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice of you to admit you have been wrong about Republican presidential politics for over two decades. You didn't have to though, it shows.

 
At 8:56 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

A very interesting game of chicken is playing out between Obama and Texas concerning transgenda bathrooms. If Texas does not comply with the new rules they will lose 10 billion dollars in federal school funds. That will basically gut all the public schools and collages.

Texan officials say they will sacrifice the money in order to up hold their principals. Only private schools will be fully functioning.

Texas could be the first and only state to not have an education system! Imagine that, no schools working for millions of kids. This is going to be good.

 
At 9:30 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

James,

Given the quality of education apparantly coming out of texas the last couple decades, they are better off not going at all.

 
At 6:45 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "WAIT! IT GETS BETTER STILL! Richard Nixon is starting to look like George Washington."

Comparatively so, but like you said, they continue lowering the bar. Of course, by "they", you're meaning the ignorant American voters. I can kind of see why he succeeded in 1968, but 1972 shouldn't have been the landslide that it was.

The likes of George McGovern looks pretty damn good today. If he were around, I'd vote for him again. Hmm...if Sanders suspends his campaign and turns his back on the movement by endorsing Clinton, I will.

 
At 6:50 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "...Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States."

Tom, will you be attending the coronation next January?

 
At 7:29 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Not bloody likely - except maybe for my own amusement.

 
At 7:40 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

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At 9:27 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

The GOP will always have low information bigots like Smokey Chuck. His hate and willful ignorance are fascistic to the core.

The corporate press parroted Bush and Cheney's lies on Iraq, the most disastrous foreign policy blunder in decades and for decades to come, but as we all know

ISIS was brought about by Bush and Cheney's war for crony profit and political power. That can only mean we need to blame the black guy, amirite?

Authoritarian bigots like Smokey Chuck have been a cancer on humanity throughout history. There will always be a party for them. There will always be those who manipulate their racism, resentments, anger, hate and ignorance, even to the wild point of believing in a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists, marching under the orders of the all powerful Al Gore. THAT is how stupid they are.

And they will always follow the next Cheney to greater ruin. Always.

You can't have fascism without hate. Authoritarians like Smokey Chuck reek of hate.

They hate our Constitution, apart from the 2nd Amendment, and they hate our democracy. They hate public education and they hate journalism.

And most of all they hate all those who dissent from their extremism. They are the epitome of neo-fascism.

Yeats saw them in his time:

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.



 
At 9:48 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

"Authoritarians" like liberals whose policy's are so opposed by Americans they have to use lies, threats, executive orders or mandates to enact and enforce.

 
At 9:58 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Speaking of "The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."

Chuck, what did you think about Bernie's ideas being shown to be mainstream?

Did you ignorantly miss that, or just willfully ignore it?

Why did you lie about "99%" of Americans disagreeing with progressive policies?

99% of American's do not agree with the left wing, socialist agenda,

This was shown to be false.

Even the Pentagon won't buy the Greedy Oily Plutocrats lies on climate change and their shrill whining about a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists.

The Pentagon takes climate change science seriously. The GOP sides with oil company PR. Some "patriotism", amirite?

How's that for crony greed over the public good, and party over country?

Why do con-servatives choose protecting and expanding private wealth over the health, safety and security of our country?

Could our resident expert on all matters please weigh in on the facts? LOL!!!

They are a brainwashed cult.

 
At 10:13 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Authoritarians" like liberals

HA! Gotta love that far Right projection, as they shove wars and corporate written "trade agreements", that off-shore our jobs, down our throats.

Blame Bernie?

What about that "American ISIS propaganda video", oh, exalted man of truth?

 
At 1:59 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

What I am ignoring Davy is you

 
At 2:09 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

No, Chuck, you have responded to me.

But you have chosen to ignore truth, reality and facts.

As expected.

 
At 3:15 PM, Blogger T. Paine said...

It is very interesting to look back over the more recent GOP nominees for president. Dole was hardly a right-wing extremist. In fact, he was the very definition of a moderate, and yet he lost in a landslide. George W. Bush campaigned as as conservative and thus was elected, but he absolutely governed as a big-government moderate. McCain was up next and was seen as a "maverick" that often bucked his own GOP party and chose a "moderate" third way. He also went down in flames. Following that we had a smart business man named Romney who conveniently changed a few core positions to the right in order to run for president as a centrist. He also was shot down.

Now we have a GOP candidate that not long ago was self-admittedly a staunch Democrat, pro-abortion, anti-gun, and big government guy. In other words, he would make the perfect Democrat candidate, but he chose to have "epiphanies" and converted to being a true, honest, genuine conservative Republican. He is so convincing as a conservative that a huge percentage of us that truly are constitutional conservative refuse to vote for him, while a not insignificant number of disgusted Democrats have come to support him over the corrupt and truly vile Hillary.

So once again we have an establishment Democrat facing off against a closet Democrat in sheep's Republican clothing. Frankly, I don't know why the left is upset. Either way they will win with a Democrat in office. Of course the country is on the precipice, but especially for Democrats, party has long since "Trumped" country. This election will prove to be no different, except that it may actually be the final nail in the coffin of this once free and proud republic.

 
At 4:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez, another "Chicken Little" idiot who claims the Republic will end if a certain person is elected president. Take up basket weaving for a hobby, politics is beyond your thought pattern.

 
At 6:19 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Here is an article that shows how stupid our foreign policy is:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44660.htm

Doomsday might be closer than you think.

 
At 6:59 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

TP

I recall Tom once saying the chances of the GOP nominating a moderate from the NE were zero. Based on the last three GOP candidates I'd say politics is beyond Tom's thought pattern.

 
At 9:16 PM, Anonymous SmokeyHarryChucky said...

Yeats saw them in his time:

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


AmeriKa's smartest prison guard is quoting Yeats! He must be an intellectual! amirite?

Hillary is tanking people. Its time to make AmeriKa great again.

 
At 11:55 PM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Wow. I have someone named "anonymous" that thinks I should take up basket weaving instead of politics. Here is a news flash for you, Anonymous: the federal government of our once great republic has long ago left the velvet chains and constraints of our constitution in favor of a mob-mentality corrupt democracy. The overton window has shifted so far to the left that we cannot indeed recover a constitutional rule of law for our republic. Despite all of this FACT, we still have people on this very blog thinking that the few remaining constitutionally-minded GOP members are "too extreme" and the media is their water carriers. It would be uproariously laughable if it weren't so tragic. The lack of awareness of history and the civics of our republic by a vast majority of our citizenry may indeed make me an anachronism, but it certainly doesn't make me a novice regarding politics, my friend.

 
At 12:52 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

There is no Left left, every body in politics has moved Right except for a rare few like Sanders and Warren. I agree Obama is corrupt but the rule of law was really corrupted with Bush/Chaney. I still am in shock that Americans accepted a wide spread international torture program and Christians supported it!

 
At 8:20 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

T. Paine: "The overton window has shifted so far to the left that we cannot indeed recover a constitutional rule of law for our republic."

Mr. Paine, in your opinion, has the window of discourse shifted toward more freedom or less freedom?


"...we still have people on this very blog thinking that the few remaining constitutionally-minded GOP members are 'too extreme' and the media is their water carriers."

I'm not sure about your first clause, because I can't read your mind as to your definition of "constitutionally-minded GOP members" and the people this list should include. As far as the corporate mainstream media, I hope you're still not of the belief that another suitable synonym that fulfills this definition is "liberal media". If you are, we need to find common ground before we can even begin a debate because I find you're still wanting to argue over the shape of the table.

 
At 8:27 AM, Anonymous Dan said...

Has anyone else noticed the cycle of progressive tyranny?

First, they force a government program on everyone, it doesn't work as advertised, then they campaign on "reform" of the exact same program they forced on us in the first place.

 
At 10:52 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Dan,

I've noticed.

I've noticed how Obama has been a war time president longer that Bush.

I've noticed how liberals claim "There is no Left left, every body in politics has moved Right except for a rare few like Sanders and Warren." And wonder how far left do we have to go to satisfy them?

I noticed that Hansen is now calling Obama corrupt and wonder why it took him so long?

 
At 11:08 AM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Mr. Hansen, with all due respect, your are mistaken sir. The nation as a whole has absolutely shifted to the left. It has shifted so much that a self-avowed socialist is now a viable candidate for the presidency.

30 years ago there was still a stigma associated with accepting government assistance; nowadays I run into capable people telling me how they have gamed the system for their various welfare "entitlements".

Decades ago it would have been unthinkable to believe that the government could mandate that you would have to buy a product/service from a private business on the penalty of the law otherwise.

Twenty years ago, gay people merely wanted society to accept them and not denigrate them, as they should expect. Today, acceptance is not nearly enough. If you do not champion gay rights, including gay marriage and transgender bathrooms, you are a bigot and a homophobe.

Following one's conscience or religious faith tradition on abortifacients as a business owner is now illegal via the HHS mandate. And lets not even talk about refusing to support other practices that go contrary to some peoples' faith such as having to be a material participant in a gay "wedding" by providing cakes, photography etc. or being fined otherwise.

I agree that Bush/Cheney did plenty of un-constitutional things during their tenure, but the problem preceded them by generations. Now we have a narcissistic president that ignores the "negative liberties" of the constitution and reigns by fiat and executive order. He fully admits numerous times that he doesn't have the constitutional authority to push through his immigration plan by executive order and then goes ahead and does it anyway. The spineless GOP congress does not hold him accountable for his actions so checks and balances are further broken down. Any criticism by them is considered racist or extremism.

No the governance of this nation has absolutely and undeniably moved to the left.

When the most liberal and unaccomplished senator is elected president (Obama) and then the following cycle is repeated with Bernie Sanders (the most liberal senator in congress) being a viable candidate, you cannot tell me that we have moved to the right.

Trump is a leftist, despite his recent rhetoric. Cruz's talk of free-market capitalism and abiding by the constitution used to be considered mainstream. Nowadays HE is the extremist. May God save us all!

 
At 11:23 AM, Blogger T. Paine said...

JG, the Overton window on political discourse has absolutely shifted left. It has also shifted towards far less freedom for Americans overall. I don't think this is merely a coincidence, sir.

There are a few special interest groups, such as the gay lobby, that enjoy greater specific liberties than they once did, but as far as our Bill of Rights and freedom overall, we have absolutely regressed in our slide to the left, sir.

Further, I understand and agree that most of the media is corporatist in nature. That said, most of that which is reported or not reported is absolutely done with a big-government leftist slant.

A few years ago, I saw a piece where a gentleman was interviewing various college journalism students. I was amazed by how many of them when asked why the were studying journalism had a response of some type that said it was because they wanted to "change the world for the better." THAT is NOT what the purpose of objective journalism should be. If you want to change the world for the better, then join the damned Peace Corp. If you want to be a journalist, report who, what, where, when, and why in as objective a fashion as you possibly can. The fact that these kids cannot is why we have leftist agenda journalism today, sir.

 
At 11:31 AM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Dan, you are correct, sir. This is the cycle that big-government perpetuates. It takes a "problem" that is minor, does not exist at all, or is beyond the government's constitutional purview, and then it "solves" the problem with a huge government program. Of course that program has all sorts of negative "unintended" consequences that cause additional problems that now have to be remedied with more government programs... and so on... and so on. This is how our leviathan government continues to grow unimpeded.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."

I, for one, would like the government to protect my God-given rights as enumerated in the Bill of Rights and otherwise pretty much leave me to my own successes and failures.

 
At 11:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don't seem to know about cyclical patterns in politics Paine.
If you are talking about the people who wrote our Constitution then you are talking about starting a slave nation where only white land owners had rights. Having stated your displeasure for including rights to minorities like gays, I'm sure you would like to go back to 1776. Luckily, there are a majority of Americans who disagree with you. Another political fact you seem to not understand.
You don't even understand the Constitutional right of a president to issue presidential proclamations, but Republican presidents understand that power very well.
Free market capitalism is a myth, and Republicans have had plenty of opportunity to fully enforce their policies over the last 40 years; which led to our high national debt and a financial crisis at the end of their last White House occupancy.
To say America has moved to the left just shows how little you know history. FDR created an economy which led to the greatest growth of any country in world history. And any Democrat in the last 60 years was far right compared to FDR.
You insult the name of Thomas Paine, except for your 18th century thinking.

 
At 1:05 PM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Ms./Mrs./Mr. Anonymous, I am very well aware of politics having cyclical patterns. Yes the pendulum will swing back from the right and left over time; however, the baseline of those cyclical swings has shifted leftward overall since Teddy Roosevelt's time. (This is the shift of the Overton window of which I wrote.) TR's stewardship view of governing and the constitution circumvented much of the critical restraints on government that the founders intended. This was only exacerbated when Wilson came along. Yes, there were shifts back to the right when Coolidge was in office, but then the Great Depression came along and was lengthened by FDR and his big-government extra-constitutional policies. It was WWII that got everyone back to work; NOT FDR's New Deal. (And Dave Dubya, please spare me your canned response on this topic.)

Further, Ms./Mrs./Mr. Anonymous, you have evidently fallen prey to the leftist telling of history. There were many of the founders that were ardent abolitionists, most especially John Adams. Indeed, even slave owning Thomas Jefferson acknowledged the evils of slavery and feared the wrath of a "just God" on our nation for this transgression. That said, the founders knew they wouldn't have been able to form a united country to fight the British for our independence if they also tried to address the slavery issue at that time. History and the proper amendment process to our constitution rectified this grave evil over tremendous blood shed from 1861 to 1865. The fact that you think I support slavery and am against minority rights is simply an Alinsky tactic that many leftists use. It is quite sophomoric, frankly.

As for gays, I want them to have all of the same rights I do, and indeed they do. I don't want them to have extra-constitutional rights at the expense of my own conscience and constitutional rights.

Next, I understand the purpose and history of executive orders. Indeed there are times and places when such are called for appropriately. They are NOT called for and indeed are unconstitutional when they purport to usurp congressional authority by passing by fiat what the executive could not get passed through legislation via congress. Evidently you do not understand this, sir/ma'am.

Free market capitalism is a messy and imperfect economic system, especially when it is corrupted into crony capitalism by the likes of Bill Clinton, George Bush, and especially Obama. (Hillary and Trump will continue and exacerbate this problem.) That said, it far surpasses any other system, most especially socialism, that exists. It is the reason why America as such a relatively young country became the world's most powerful and dynamic economic and political power in the world. It is why a vast majority of world-changing inventions came into being from America. Capitalism and our freedoms based in rule of law was the reason.

Nowadays, you and other leftists want us to be like some Scandinavian socialist nation where we pay 65% of our income in taxes in order for the government to take care of all of our needs. Prosperity and innovation (and liberty) are the victims in such systems.

I do agree with you in one respect, the un-constitutional, court-packing FDR was the furthest left president we have had in the last 60 years until now.

Respectfully, the rest of your rhetoric is counter-factual and leftist agenda driven, my dear Anonymous.

 
At 2:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for proving my point, you have no clue of History.
Another lie from Republicans that WW II stopped the depression. Check the facts; the depression ended in 1939, years before we entered WW II at the end of 1941. The great Depression was caused by Coolidge and previous Republicans who followed the Republican chant of no new taxes. Coolidge was Ronald Reagan's idol. You are just another conservative trying to rewrite history.
Executive orders are not unconstitutional (since they are directly mentioned in the Constitution) just because you disagree with them. And the Constitution does not say those declarations from the president have to be approved by the Congress. The Supreme Court ( you know, the third branch of government) get to decide if an executive order is unconstitutional.
Following ones religious faith when making law, or enforcing the law, denies freedoms to those who don't believe in religion, not to mention corrupting the spirit of separation of church and State. The Supreme Court acknowledges same sex marriage, so a clerk working for any State does not have the right to deny a marriage license to gay people, no matter how much you dislike that.
The law has always acknowledged intent as partial reason to prosecute a crime. So when someone beats a person to death shouting "die fag die" as they beat them to death; a law defining sexual orientation discrimination as part of that crime, is totally reasonable.
Obama was not the most liberal Se4nator in the Senate when he ran for president. Facts show that beyond doubt.
Yes, laws have unintended consequences. Like "stand your ground" is now a defense for shooting people who played their music to loud, or threw popcorn.
The gay lobby has grown, but it's still an infant compared to the NRA lobby. Since both are protected by the Constitution, why support one and not the other?
You have stated your displeasure for extending rights to minorities, so my impression of your attitudes are from your own words.
There was no Constitutional amendment process that stopped slavery. A war had to stop slavery. And again, a presidential proclamation helped that process; which the politicians at the time called unconstitutional.
Most of your points show a lack of historical education. And a lack of acceptance that government does have a role in protecting it's citizens from many forms of harm, not just a physical attack on country and person.

 
At 2:48 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

T. Paine: "...the Overton window on political discourse has absolutely shifted left. It has also shifted towards far less freedom for Americans overall."

and...

"...but as far as our Bill of Rights and freedom overall, we have absolutely regressed in our slide to the left, sir."

I apparently don't see what you're seeing. The enactment of the Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act, along with the presupposed war on terror, are all examples of Neocon and/or corporatist actions and leanings that have crippled constitutional rights in this country. These do not reflect leftist viewpoints at all, unless I'm mistakenly not understanding your thoughts that you potentially believe the corporatocracy we live under is left-leaning. If that's the case, we certainly need to discuss the shape of the table before anything else is said.


"That said, most of that which is reported or not reported is absolutely done with a big-government leftist slant."

I concur that corporate media is the lapdog for the government -- and is complicit in mostly the omission of critical news events and ideas necessary for a functioning democracy -- but to suggest it has a "leftist slant" is disingenuous at best.

Once again, the mainstream media have devolved from hundreds of independent media outlets to just six over the last few decades. This corporate domination over what is reported -- but most notably not reported -- certainly isn't designed to create leftist leanings in their audiences and customers. Their primary objective is to make money -- and with the government's assistance, to create a culture of fear. I hardly believe that the boardrooms of General Electric, Time Warner, Viacom or News Corp are overflowing with leftists or progressives. Do you?


"I was amazed by how many of them when asked why the were studying journalism had a response of some type that said it was because they wanted to 'change the world for the better.' THAT is NOT what the purpose of objective journalism should be."

It depends upon whether the interviewer was asking for an implicit reason for their chosen vocations, or one that's purely esoteric. I'm sure you chose esoteric reasons for joining the military when asked by family and friends, such as the usual canned responses of "defending freedom", or "defending the American way of life", "or making the world safe for democracy" -- or a host of other quaint phrases conservatives memorize. Never once, I'm almost sure, did you ever respond that you wanted the great (socialist) GI benefits when you retired, or even possibly that you wanted to legally kill people that thought differently than you.

Those students were no different than you...sir. ;-)

 
At 2:48 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Actually Anynymous, there could have been a dozen Civil wars and it STILL would hve taken a constitutional amendment to OFFICIALY end slavery. Even the "emancipation proclimation" was just THAT and not a legally binding document.

 
At 2:53 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

T. Paine, the PEOPLE Have "swung left" while the POWERS that run the nation have gone to the RIGHT. The GOP represents the PEOPLE less and less, which is why the GOP has to CHEAT to win anything on the national level.

Funny also how all these "SCandanavian Socialist" nations have higher standards of living for ALL ther citizens, not just the uber rich. They beat us in every important category.

Yes, the evil "taxes" are higher, but THEY ACTUALLY RECIEVE THE SERVICES THEY PAY FOR, unlike here, where we pay TONS more for healthcare and recieve only a small fraction of the services.

Nice try on the propaganda though. Do you have to make that stuff up for yourselves or do they send you stuff to just copy and paste?

 
At 2:55 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

T. Paine

Trunp is a LEFTIST?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

nOW YOU SOUND LIKE THE BOY TROLL!!!

 
At 4:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, the emancipation proclamation led to the immediate freedom of slaves. Just because the South refused to accept that didn't make it not legal. I guess you forgot the reason Lincoln did it then was to get blacks to fight for the union, which was illegal because blacks were property, not human beings and therefore could not fight. Good luck to all you history revisionists trying to make points based on lies.

 
At 4:28 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG

I read of your concern with consolidation of "corporate domination" in the media as exampled by your noting the reduction from "hundreds of independent media outlets to just six".

The same should be said regarding the number of commercial airlines, railroads, trucking, domestic auto manufacturers and phone companies.

Do you feel this has happened in a vacuum of uncontrolled capitalism or is the result of action(s) taken by the Federal govt.?

At the same time the Federal govt is consolidating and expanding it's control and therefore power over the 50 States who make up the Union. Do you see a parallel?

 
At 5:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Paine,

Thank you for your response.

I have been working on growing a set of balls without much luck.

I will be using the new trans-gender bathrooms when they become available since I am a man without convictions who has strong female feelings.

 
At 6:17 PM, Anonymous David said...

Hillary Clinton represents what many people see as the problem with Washington, D.C.

A career politician that's available to the highest bidder, someone who's fundamental values shift with each new poll.

Recall that she was in favor of the TPP until she was against it.

Hillary voted for the Iraq war then decided she was against it. Over and over, just like a broken record.

At least Barnie Sanders sticks to his principles. Its just that people at this point in time aren't ready to elect a Bolshevik.

 
At 6:42 PM, Anonymous Ima Wright said...

For the last eight years anyone who has not agreed with a liberal point of view is a climate denier or a racist.

Al Gore's ten year predictions from 2005 have become Incovenient Untruths and the plot of a very imaginative but bad sci-fi movie. Remember that poor polar bear floating away on a small piece of ice?

The mood of the electorate is shifting from policy based to social-economic based themes and Hillary is on the wrong side of history.

 
At 7:55 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Anonymous,

A "proclamation" is not a LAW. For example is it federal LAW that we celebrate Nat'l potato Chip week?

No, and most of us don't even realize it ACTUALLY EXISTS, created by a "proclamation".

For slavery to end it REQUIRED a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.

Abd Cluckie, until you tell us WHAT CONSERVATIVES HAVE DONE FOR THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS THE LAST 40 YEARS, you can say nothing we care about.

Actually, I throw the question up to ANY conservative.

 
At 7:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Slavery as an institution ending and giving freedom to slaves are two different things. You are wrong. You are confusing the two and then trying to make a failing point. Sorry.

 
At 9:01 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Mozart
Name a liberal policy designed to help the poor and middle class that has been successful and therefore has been discontinued as it is no longer needed.

 
At 11:47 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

"I agree that Bush/Cheney did plenty of un-constitutional things during their tenure, but the problem preceded them by generations".

That has to be one of the most partisan and cowardly statements concerning the evil and monstrous torture program created by Bush/Chaney I ever heard. Hundreds of people were tortured to death at black sites all over the world and thousands were held for up to a decade in conditions that were a living hell.
There were 22 forms of sanctioned torture but many times there were no rules and sadistic people can not control them selfs.

It is one of many stains on Americas image created by the worst administration in US history.

 
At 12:29 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Chuckles, I have no idea what you are gpoing on about, but then, that makes it unanimous.

Just answer MY question instead of making up other ones that make no sense.

 
At 12:37 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie, I THINK I have a bead on what you were trying to ask, and let me answer it like this.

Is an umbrella a "failure" because it cannot make it stop raining?
Is a an airplane a "failure" because humans still cannot fly on our own?
Is our military a "failure" because they have not ended all war?

I could list a couple DOZEN "liberal" programs that helped the poor and middle class, but since there will always be those that seek to exploit the poor to the benefit of their own enrichment, there will probably NEVER be a time when something is not needed.

For example, I give you the voting rights act. Working fine till Scalia gutted it, and withon 48 hours several red states passed laws restricting voting rights to people they don't like, ie POOR AND MINORITY voters. Just the ones the Voting Rights act was designed to protect.

There, I answered YOUR question. Now answer MINE


WHAT HAVE CONSERVATIVES DONE FOR THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS THE LAST 40 YEARS?

 
At 1:17 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Mozart
You have now joined Davy as irrelevant and to be ignored.
Cheers!

 
At 7:44 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuck refuses to discuss any conservative policy that helps the poor and middle class, then demands an answer to an illogically qualified question. He knows this makes no sense. He is merely out to aggravate, like the con-servative troll he is.

Name a liberal policy designed to help the poor and middle class that has been successful and therefore has been discontinued as it is no longer needed.

More proof of his utter lack of reason and his famous double standard. IOKIYAR. The title of the post fits him.

We can name many liberal policies designed to help the poor and middle class that have been successful: (Therefore continued)

Public Education, Environmental regulation, OSHA, Food Stamps, Unemployment compensation, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Voting Rights Act (RIP, discontinued because 5 cons wrongly said it is not needed) women’s voting rights, the 13th Amendment, etc.

Chuck has no answers, and is therefore irrelevant to discussions, but he is a great case study of the far Right authoritarian personality.

 
At 8:06 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I was hoping to stay out of this, but…

then the Great Depression came along and was lengthened by FDR and his big-government extra-constitutional policies. It was WWII that got everyone back to work; NOT FDR's New Deal. (And Dave Dubya, please spare me your canned response on this topic.)

“Canned response”. Like “liberal media” and “lengthened by FDR”? The irony of projection at work. “ I’m conservative. I have ideologically framed beliefs and exclusive fabricated definitions to support my Right Wing revisionist history , therefore no facts, please”.

I love how the “Great Depression came along”. Magically, we suppose? Then blame is quickly placed on FDR as with Obama after Bush trashed out economy and left us permanent war.

And spare your sanctimonious hypocritical reverence for “Constitution supporting Republicans”. Your tea bagging, Supreme Court sabotaging, creepy theocrat Cruz is just another asshole who ignores the Constitution he swore to uphold. Or do Black Presidents only get 3 year terms in the “Republican Constitution”?

Their hypocrisy reeks.

Back to reality:

Depression era unemployment rates (Bureau of Labor Statistics)

After Roosevelt developed jobs programs unemployment dropped every year of his first term. Employment improved throughout all his terms except for one year. Unemployment went up in 1938 after the Dems caved to GOP pressure. Roosevelt feared an unbalanced budget and cut spending for 1937. FDR shook off the party that accused him of being an “enemy to his class” and resumed programs and policies that put America back to work.

Here are the BLS figures:

1930 – 8.9
1931 – 15.9
1932 – 23.6
1932 – 23.6%
1933 – 24.9% FDR inherits peak GOP unemployment rate thanks to tax cuts and deregulation
1934 - 21.7%
1935 – 20.1%
1936 – 17%
1937- 14.3% FDR caves to GOP on taxes and cuts spending
1938- 19% Americans lose jobs
1939- 17.2 FDR continues programs and taxes
1940- 14.6%
1941- 9.9%
1942 – 4.7% US goes to war

 
At 8:30 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave Dubya: "Chuck has no answers, and is therefore irrelevant to discussions, but he is a great case study of the far Right authoritarian personality."

Perfect comment, in its entirety, at 7:44 AM.

I've noticed that Chuck only mimics and parrots. There's never any thought behind any of his comments. You were the first to propose that he lacked relevance, so now he parrots that you have no relevance; I mentioned once that I only reply to thoughtful questions, and now he mimics my language when he gets cornered and has no legitimate answer.

Chuck's a parrot, and as I've accused him many times, he's a follower -- which, incidentally, he's never challenged. "Polly Chuck". The nickname suits him.

 
At 8:45 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Dave Dubya: Here are the BLS figures:

1930 – 8.9
1931 – 15.9
1932 – 23.6
1932 – 23.6%
1933 – 24.9% FDR inherits peak GOP unemployment rate thanks to tax cuts and deregulation
1934 - 21.7%
1935 – 20.1%
1936 – 17%
1937- 14.3% FDR caves to GOP on taxes and cuts spending
1938- 19% Americans lose jobs
1939- 17.2 FDR continues programs and taxes
1940- 14.6%
1941- 9.9%
1942 – 4.7% US goes to war


Look at that! FDR reduced the unemployment rate from just under 25%, at the height of the Depression, to under 10% in eight years! Wow! And to think, we hadn't even entered WWII yet! Holy cow!

So his plan was to use "socialism" as the means to an end when capitalism sputtered and failed?

Hmm...aren't we in a similar situation today?

 
At 9:05 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgenthau,_Jr.

Henry Morgenthau, Jr. (May 11, 1891 – February 6, 1967) was the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury during the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

He questioned the value of the deficit spending that had not reduced unemployment and only added debt:

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong … somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot."




The deficit accumulated in 233 years of American independence has been doubled in seven years with Barry the Bullshit Artist in charge, and the business growth rate last quarter (3 months!), after this steroid-bloated efflorescence of the money supply, was an anemic one quarter of one per cent.

Thank you Mr. Morganthau for telling the truth about Socialism which sooner or later runs out of other people's money.

 
At 9:15 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Smokey Chuck plays the stale "Morgenthau card" again.

They must bleat like sheep:

Thank you Mr. Morganthau for telling the truth

I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started

FALSE

The numbers are above. Invisible to cons, of course. FDR is to blame for Hoover's Great Depression, Obama is to blame for Bush's Great Recession.

"Other peoples money" wasn't such a concern for them when Wall Street swindles and loses it, amirite? More lies, IOKIYAR, and blame for liberals.

They are a cult.


 
At 9:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The resident "experts-on-everything" continue to show their light grasp on facts and inability to dig past the first page of the Google results.

The post-depression era is still studied and debated to this day. Many, many factors involved and some of the most important haven't even been mentioned here.
Go back to insulting each other - you're better at it.

 
At 9:27 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgenthau,_Jr.

To protect the New Deal, in 1934, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Morgenthau to examine the taxes of William Randolph Hearst because FDR was "advised that Hearst was planning to use his newspapers to launch a major attack on the New Deal and its economic policies."[6] Treasury Secretary Morgenthau explained that he examined the taxes of William Randolph Hearst and actress Marion Davies and "advised FDR to mount a preemptive attack on both her and Hearst."[6][7]


This is what Vile Fascists do to people who voice contrary opinion. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is null and void.

Just like today's IRS who attacked Tea Party organizations. amirite?

 
At 9:51 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


“In 1934, when William H. Woodin resigned because of poor health, Roosevelt appointed Morgenthau Secretary of the Treasury; even conservatives approved (of the "vile fascist")… advised FDR to mount a preemptive attack on both her and Hearst."

Hearst, the powerful father of Murdoch/FOX Yellow Journalism, is the “victim” of course.

Meanwhile, Chuckie’s link supports the facts I’ve given:

In 1937, however, Morgenthau successfully convinced Roosevelt to finally focus on balancing the budget through major spending cuts and tax increases; Keynesian economists have argued that this new attempt by Roosevelt to balance the budget created the Recession of 1937.

Thanks, Chuck.

Got some more information to discuss?

Better watch out when jumping into fact based reality. Way over your head.

 
At 10:07 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG

I read of your concern with consolidation of "corporate domination" in the media as exampled by your noting the reduction from "hundreds of independent media outlets to just six".

The same should be said regarding the number of commercial airlines, railroads, trucking, domestic auto manufacturers and phone companies.

Do you feel this has happened in a vacuum of uncontrolled capitalism or is the result of action(s) taken by the Federal govt.?

At the same time the Federal govt is consolidating and expanding it's control and therefore power over the 50 States who make up the Union. Do you see a parallel?

Well JG?

 
At 10:18 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

If Chuckie really wants to agree with Morgenthau, then we should show him another quote from the same source:

"We have never begun to tax the people in this country the way they should be..... I don't pay what I should. People in my class don't. People who have it should pay."

Well, Smokey Chuck?

 
At 11:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 5:19 = ChuckSoreLoserConfused

He was quiet for a while when I pointed out only a mentally ill person would write the things he does on this blog, but now he's back with a vengeance. But deep down inside, he knows I'm right.

ChuckSoreLoser: Help is available. See a therapist.

 
At 11:41 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

ChuckSoreLoser: Help is available. See a therapist.

+1

The only other sane option would be a cult de-programmer.

His false beliefs and fear of all dissent from his Party run deep.

If only he had a religion that promoted love for his fellow man and compassion for the poor...

Nahhh. He'd have no part of it, obviously.

 
At 12:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, they are entitlements. After all Americans paid taxes for decades willing to support those help programs, so when they need help, they get insulted being told they are "bumming" off the government. That was the deal between government and it's citizens and it was illegal not to pay those taxes for those programs. It's illegal not to pay your SS tax. It's not a citizens fault if elected representatives misspent their SS money, and the government should be able to be sued if they break the contract and promise citizens paid taxes for, for decades. It's our money, not theirs to waste any way they want. Where's the accountability?
Why bail out banks with taxpayer money and leave millions of citizens out in the cold? Why not give tax payer money back to the taxpayer so they can pay their overdue bank notes? The bank gets paid, is solvent, and millions would not lose their homes. I guess capitalists think there should be no risk in business, even if it was their dumb, greedy decisions that caused the problem. No wonder capitalism is dead, if government will bail them out; and yes, I'm pissed that my tax money is bailing out these corporate crooks.

 
At 3:07 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Here's what you get when you answer Cluckies question in detail, and then ask him to answer yours...

"Mozart
You have now joined Davy as irrelevant and to be ignored.
Cheers!"


Cluckie, why are you such an ignorant COWARD?

Oh yeah, CONSERVATIVE...

 
At 3:09 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie wants to be ignored. I say we grant his wish.

 
At 5:18 PM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

AmeriKa's smartest prison guard said:
"Better watch out when jumping into fact based reality. Way over your head."

So the conservatives who appointed Morgenthau were also in agreement with the Fascist FDR to go after Hearst?

Keep dreaming and smoking the good pot you underachieving prison guard.

No wonder you are in a prison of your own making. amirite?

 
At 5:27 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie, posting under different names is not going to help.

We see you in there

 
At 5:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something really suspicious about SoreLoserChuckSmokey's intense antipathy towards prison guards. He's got a serious grudge going on against them.

Only someone who did prison time for a truly perverted crime would feel such hatred to corrections officers.

I'm guessing your crime had something to do with the "final straw" mentioned in tom degan's captcha "thingy" because you're too much of a coward for armed robbery and too stupid to embezzle.

Are you currently on probation? Are you undergoing court-ordered therapy? Is it helping?

 
At 5:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Is it helping?"

Silly question.

Of course not.

 
At 5:36 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Fascist FDR"

How to spot a booze pickled delusional brain of the fanatic extremist. Alcohol has destroyed this person's ability to think, apparently. No wonder. He's stupid enough to think pot damages brains more than his liquor.

Who is this "prison guard" Chuckie is so obsessed with, and why does he matter? Does Chuckie have a felony record and hates corrections officers?

Or is it just another distraction from reality that he craves? Maybe? Most certainly.

So what has Smokey been smoking? Sounds like crack to me. Delusional, paranoid, angry, resentful, blames others, all while showing to be brain dead.

LOL!

How to be irrelevant:

Blame prison guards, shriek "fascist FDR". Ignore or support fascistic torture and war crimes that Republicans commit.

Cheers! Sport. Drink up! Hooch, or GOP propaganda. Pick your poison, and let us watch your brain rot.





 
At 7:23 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

The First Amendment to the Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Dave,

Face the facts. The average IQ for a prison guard is about 80 which is just slightly higher than that of a mentally retarded person.

Why pretend to be an intellectual?

Your pretzel logic is really nauseating.

Sorry to be blunt. You and your fellow progressives can stick your political correctness up your arse.

FDR went after Hearst because Hearst was planning to use his newspapers to launch a major attack on the New Deal and its economic policies.

Is this Freedom of the Press?

This is clearly a violation of The First Amendment to the Constitution.

It appears you don't agree that this was a violation, yet you call your dead blog "Freedom Rants". You are a fucking joke.

 
At 9:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SmokeyChuck, it's really personal with you and prison guards, isn't it.

If I met someone in person, at a party or a neighbor, and they expressed such personal hostility towards prison guards, I'd have to assume there was something shady in their past.

Tell us about it. Maybe you'll feel better.

How long were you locked up? And for what?

 
At 10:01 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Complete List of facts from Lyin' Chuck.

1. Copy and paste of First Amendment

He's getting angry and even more incoherent again. Alcohol took his brain long ago.

 
At 10:08 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckies source says: "Hearst's papers ran columns without rebuttal by Nazi leader Hermann Göring and Hitler himself, as well as Mussolini and other dictators in Europe and Latin America…..He still refused to attack Hitler."

But he DID attack FDR, the "REAL fascist", amirite? How about that high IQ of a pickled brain?

So did FDR jail or silence Hearst? No. Yet Chuckie whines about a non-existent suppression of the First Amendment..from a non fascist.

One thing for certain, Lyin'Chuck makes prison guards look more intelligent. LOL!!

 
At 11:32 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Oh, oh:

Rep. Trey Gowdy, the South Carolina Republican who is chairing the select committee investigating the Benghazi attack, revealed that the GOP’s own chief investigator acknowledged during the investigation that nothing “could have been done differently to affect the outcome in Benghazi.”

In an interview on Fox News today, Gowdy responded to this newly released information by acknowledging, “Whether or not they could have gotten there in time, I don’t think there is any issue with respect to that — they couldn’t.”

 
At 5:39 PM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Dave, there are other knowledgeable military members that were in the area (and told to stand down) at that time that are in vehement disagreement. The attack went on for hours and some of those people weren't killed until quite later in the attack.

I guess if I see some child drowning far out in the middle of the lake, I should take solace in the fact that I probably cannot get to him in time and should probably just be okay with letting him drown.

What the hell have we come to here?

 
At 6:15 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

TP,

I have to wonder why you don't cite the source of your beliefs. Allen West?

You have convicted Hillary of numerous "crimes" already, so this is no surprise. Not sure how a "stand down" order would be hers to give in the first place. But blame if you must. It's what the Right does. Always.

Why does nobody on the Right blame our military interventions for the predictable blowback? To his credit, Trump comes closer to doing so than the "Party line". Do you guys really think the world falls in line and bends to the will of belligerent American politicians?

But what do liberals know?

Unfortunately my questions will be taken as rhetorical.

You choose to believe whatever you want to believe. Whatever demonizes Hillary the most seems to be the standard. I don't know who you believe over all the testimony, newspaper fact checkers, and even the Republican committee chair, but hey, if you believe in a monopolized corporate "liberal media" and a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists, then you will believe almost anything uttered against Democrats.

But we all know this. Your pal called FDR a "fascist" who prolonged the Depression left by Republicans. How's that for blame? No wonder you reject the facts and history I've offered.

We don't expect you to criticize your fellow ideologue, no matter how many lies or insults he spews. You just have to believe he's correct. It's the Right thing to do.

I do get the impression he could never moderate his alcohol intake. His hate, incoherence and anger reveal serious mental issues. He's delusional and obsessed with prison guards, for crying out loud.

He needs your support, so we understand ideological purity and unity prevail over all other facts and factors.

 
At 8:02 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

T.Paine, you DO realize that everything you said was debunked long ago right?

 
At 11:07 PM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Really Mr. Mozart? By whom? Rachel Maddow? Why don't we talk to the sources of the information instead of going by what MS-NBC or NPR have to say on the topic, sir?

Dave, I don't think FDR was a fascist. Further, Hoover was indeed greatly responsible for the Great Depression. That said, if you think a nearly 10% unemployment rate (as a best case scenario) is good after spending HUGE amounts of money by the government to employ some people makes FDR some demi-god, then I guess I will leave you to your religion there.

The fact is that REAL GDP (not that part spent by the government on work programs and then the war) did not improve until AFTER WWII when deregulation occurred. Here is a pretty good synopsis of the issue, although I am sure it will be rejected by you, sir. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/11/30/the-great-depression-was-ended-by-the-end-of-world-war-ii-not-the-start-of-it/#52ba249461cb

 
At 6:38 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

T. Paine: "...Hoover was indeed greatly responsible for the Great Depression. That said, if you think a nearly 10% unemployment rate (as a best case scenario) is good after spending HUGE amounts of money by the government to employ some people makes FDR some demi-god..."

Taking the unemployment rate from 25% to just under 10% certainly wasn't a godly task, but as previously mentioned "socialism" certainly started moving everything in the right direction after capitalism sputtered and failed. The added "chaser" (put into language Upchuck More will understand) of socialism on steroids -- gearing up for WWII -- brought the unemployment rate down to nearly 1%. This was never achieved again. It got close, but not down to such a minuscule level.


"...REAL GDP (not that part spent by the government on work programs and then the war) did not improve until AFTER WWII when deregulation occurred."

But still, Keynesian economic thought and policies remained in place. It never became a capitalist orgy of laissez-faire as you suggest.


Sorry, Dave, I realize Mr. Paine's inquiry was directed at you, but you owned me one. Your turn... ;-)

 
At 7:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting how the conservatives here want to discuss FDR and the 1930s, rather than their GOP frontrunner.

 
At 8:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are two consistent themes about the American right-wing in the Age of Obama. First, racism and conservatism is now one and the same thing. Second, the Republican Party is the United States’ largest white identity organization. I am not the only person to have made such observations.

Of course, Republicans and conservatives find these twin facts offensive and unbelievable. They hold onto their founding myth of Lincoln and “Great Emancipator” while simultaneously being dependent on voters from the former Confederacy for power—states that still fly and honor the American swastika, a rebel flag of treason and anti-black hatred.

Despite their protests, the evidence is overwhelming.

The ascendance of Donald Trump and his coronation as the presumed 2016 Republican presidential candidate is the logical outcome of a several decades-long pattern of racism, nativism, and bigotry by the American right-wing and its news entertainment disinformation machine.


http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2016/05/the-elizabeth-bathory-of-american.html

 
At 9:17 AM, Anonymous John Myste said...

So basically, Obama and his cronies repeatedly have lied to us and gotten away with it. Then they bragged about lying to us and have gotten away with that, too.

They must think a significant number of Americans are stupid...and they'd be right.

Why don't they just change the name of the Democrat Party to the Free Stuff Party? This is what their stupid low information base would prefer anyhow.

 
At 9:34 AM, Anonymous John Myste said...

Like the boy who cried wolf, not too many people care anymore.

A prog screaming about "raaaaacism" is the most cliched, boring thing in the world.

 
At 9:36 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG

I read of your concern with consolidation of "corporate domination" in the media as exampled by your noting the reduction from "hundreds of independent media outlets to just six".

The same should be said regarding the number of commercial airlines, railroads, trucking, domestic auto manufacturers and phone companies.

Do you feel this has happened in a vacuum of uncontrolled capitalism or is the result of action(s) taken by the Federal govt.?

At the same time the Federal govt is consolidating and expanding it's control and therefore power over the 50 States who make up the Union. Do you see a parallel?

Well JG?

 
At 9:43 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckie, the unimaginative lying dullard, has now stolen John Myste's name.

Why are Republican cons so dishonest, distracting and deceptive? (Answer: They need to be. De-regulation and tax cuts for the rich have been disasters.)

While we await no response, let's add some thoughtful elaboration from the link posted above the recent name theft. Thanks for posting this.

In all, Barack Obama’s presidency has been so disruptive to the white right-wing political imagination that it has resurrected a type of overt racism which was thought to be largely vanquished from American public life.

The intersection of white racism (“modern” and “old-fashioned”), nativism, a sense of white victimhood, and grievance mongering in the form of conspiracy theories and other unfounded beliefs is evident in other ways as well.

Fifty-four percent of Republicans believe that Barack Obama is a “secret Muslim.” Forty-four percent also believe that Obama was not born in the United States. Forty-two percent of Republicans believe that Muslims should be banned from the United States. Sixty-four percent of Republicans believe that “racism” against white people is as big a problem as discrimination against black Americans.


This is the delusional and paranoid belief system of the cult of modern American con-servatism, folks.

Continuing:

Trump says that Muslims should be banned from the United States because Republican voters respond to such hatred and intolerance.

Trump lies that undocumented Hispanic and Latino immigrants are rapists and killers who want to attack white women because Republican voters find such rhetoric compelling.

Trump uses social media to circulate white supremacist talking points about “black crime” because modern conservatives nurtured on “law and order” politics believe that African-Americans are out of control “thugs” possessed of “bad culture” who live to prey on innocent and vulnerable white people.

Trump talks about China “raping” the United States because this arouses anger and fear of a new “yellow peril” where the manhood and honor of (white) America is sacrificed to a “sneaky” and “scheming” “Oriental” horde who twist their Fu Manchu mustaches and seduce white women in opium dens while simultaneously negotiating multibillion dollar trade deals.

And perhaps most damning, Donald Trump has been endorsed by neo-Nazis, white nationalists, and the Ku Klux Klan: he has been reluctant to publicly reject and denounce their support.

The corporate news media has aided and abetted “Trumpmania” by normalizing his racist, nativist and bigoted behavior.


As Chuck ponders whose name to steal next to promote lies and hate, we have these words that define him and his Radical Right Bubble Cult.

And we haven’t even got to the global conspiracy of evil climate scientists here.

Theses paranoid, angry, delusional true believers, and their masters, are dangerous to democracy, equality and freedom.


 
At 9:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

John, meet Chuck. Chuck, meet John.

Oh, you've met before?

A right-wing nutjob screaming about "free stuff" is the most cliched, boring thing in the world.

ChuckJohnSoreLoser: Did a prison guard laugh at you in the drunk tank? Is this the reason for your deeply personal resentment of the corrections industry?

 
At 9:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


I'm waiting for ChuckSoreLoser to comment as "John Barron" or "John Miller":

"Hello all, my name is John, I'm here to say ChuckSoreLoser is a wonderful fabulous commenter. The best. Huge opinions."

 
At 10:46 AM, Anonymous John Miller said...

Did a prison guard laugh at you in the drunk tank?

Prison guards generally love good Republicans, even when they're in the drunk tank. Only the worst assholes would be derided by laughter.

But then, vhat do I know about prison guards? Chuck's ze expert. He's ze best expert, and knows ze best vords too. He's just unbelievable.

Not racist Republikans like Chuck and ze Klan love Trump, and are his favorites. Chuck vants to make America great again.

Ve just haff to rid ze Reich of liberals, Muslims, Blacks, Latinos, Asians, socialists, Democrats, educators, journalists and unions. Zey are ALL commies!

Build ze valls! Round zem up!

Zat is how ve make Amerika great again!

Zat is our final solution to ze "liberal problem".

Hail Trump! Heil ze Party!

Ve haff our Leader! Ve haff our values!

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."
-- Adolph Hitler,
"My New World Order,"
Proclamation to the German Nation
Berlin, February 1, 1933

 
At 11:06 AM, Anonymous The real John Miller said...

Hey!

Some no-account stole my name and despoiled my reputation! Yuuuge mistake!

In the old days he'd be out of here on a stretcher.

 
At 11:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paine in the ass liar is bad at mixing his statistics to produce a lie, and thanks for proving me correct asshole liar

 
At 11:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11:34 AM, you're a ratfucker. You're not here for honest debate you're here to gaslight and destroy this blog. Go back to the swamp you crawled out of.

 
At 12:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratfucking

Ratfucking is an American slang term for political sabotage or dirty tricks.

You're not fooling anyone, "asshole liar"

Anonymous 11:34 AM is a gaslighting ratfucker.

 
At 12:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah yes, we hear from the idiot who doesn't know history, but is always ready to support lying idiots. Thanks for proving yourself to be a raving retard!

 
At 12:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aren't you all caps TOM?

 
At 1:24 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Theocratic bigots of the far Right are anti-American to their core.


House Passes Bill That Lets Government Contractors Fire People For Being LGBT

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lgbt-workplace-discrimination-ndaa_us_573cd273e4b0aee7b8e8e176


VILE indeed.

If only they had a religion that promoted love for their fellow man and compassion for the poor...

Nahhh. They'd have no part of it, obviously.

 
At 1:29 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Former Utah Senator Republican Bob Bennett from his deathbed:

"...With a slight slurring in his words, Bennett drew them close to express a dying wish: “Are there any Muslims in the hospital?” he asked.

“I’d love to go up to every single one of them to thank them for being in this country, and apologize to them on behalf of the Republican Party for Donald Trump,” Bennett told his wife and son, both of whom relayed this story to The Daily Beast.


And thus died all the decency that remained in the Republican Party.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/18/dying-gop-senator-apologizes-to-muslims-for-donald-trump.html#pq=icMnNv

 
At 3:44 PM, Blogger T. Paine said...

Yeah... I am sure those were some of the last thoughts and words of former Senator Bennett. Sounds more like a story out of a political version of the National Enquirer. I suspect he was a decent enough guy, but he definitely was thoroughly all about the establishment and part of the problem. We are better off having elected Mike Lee in his place. That said, I hope Bob Bennett rests in peace.

 
At 4:53 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

TP,
I suppose you'd be dismissive of that end-of-life act of conscience, which helped him rest in peace. Lee Atwater let go of his hate at the end too.

But again, you choose what you want to believe, even rejecting the words of his wife and son.

Enjoy your tea.

 
At 6:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

TP - toilet paper
Very fitting for a lying idiot who went to Palin university.
Hey TP since when is unemployment alone the gauge of a depression, or not?
What a stupid fuck.

 
At 7:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous at 6:34 PM


You're drinking again? You're a mean drunk.

well, at least you're typing and not driving...

 
At 7:05 PM, Anonymous John Myste said...

What has the hubris and arrogance of the Obama Administration "brain trust" given us?

A doubling of the debt, irreparable damage to our medical care, chaos in the Middle East, race relations unseen in 50 years, the worst economic recovery in 100 years, and trans-gender bathrooms all over AmeriKa.

At least Jimmy Carter is happy. He will go to his grave knowing he is not the worst president in AmeriKa's history. amirite?

 
At 7:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the prison guard laugh at you when you were locked up overnight for public drunkenness and lewdness?

 
At 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So now ChuckSoreLoserConfused is stealing names of commenters from other blogs and bringing them here.

OCD is treatable, Chuck. You can bring it under control with the right combination of therapy and medication.

 
At 7:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Van Jones, former Marxist revolutionary and “green energy czar” for President Obama and current CNN contributor, recently offered a five-alarm warning to his fellow Democrats about Mr. Trump: Given his masterful use of social media, his savvy understanding of reality television and his ability to appeal to African-American voters, Mr. Trump could win the Big Prize in November.

In a recent Facebook video, Mr. Jones compared Mr. Trump’s ability to adapt to new media in the same way Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama mastered the new media of their ages. “Just like FDR changed the rules of the game because he mastered radio, he was able to take radio and just completely master that — then you had JFK and JFK was able to master television — new medium, new master, new president,” he said.

Mr. Jones also noted that Mr. Trump has been able to speak persuasively to parts of the Democratic Party, particularly black voters. “Seventy percent of African Americans have a horrible view of Donald Trump,” he said. “In order for the Democrats to win the White House they don’t have to get 50 percent of the black vote or 60 or 70 or 80 or 90. Democrats, in order to win historically, need 90 to 92 percent of the black voters on their liberal plantation otherwise Hillary is toast.”

 
At 7:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would your baby jesus say about the bullshit lies you write here? Would he approve?

Baby jesus cries every time you select "publish your comment"

 
At 8:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FMguru says:
May 19, 2016 at 1:49 pm
I feel…not sympathy, but a sort of wry amusement towards the Koch brothers. They spent a zillion dollars and a lot of effort over the course of multiple decades to subvert and take over our democracy, and on the brink of capturing the entire Republican party, here comes this vulgar not-even-a-real-billionaire know-nothing to effortlessly and almost instantly seize control of the whole thing. No wonder the Koch’s are flailing and dispirited.

Ha ha ha.


http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/05/as-a-democrat-i-cannot-contain-my-fear-at-this-news

 
At 10:31 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Anonymous said...@ 6:34 PM, 7:37 PM,

"TP - toilet paper

What a stupid fuck."

You still kissing your mother with that mouth? Remember when you're kissing her, no tongue! There's cameras everywhere in NYC.

Only in NYC this be viewed as normal...

Got to wonder how Tom who deletes my post for the word moron, just happens to be looking the other way when the typical liberal hothead from NYC posts his/her foul mouth language posts.

More liberal censorship of the right. No surprise here, tight Tom??

Cant wait to see how the radical liberals respond to this post. Bet not one of them will agree with me.

P.S. Anon 6:34 PM, 7:37 PM,
This is my first post since 9:36 am 5/18 and today is 5/19 . You sure are a brave revolutionary, hiding behind your skirt of anonymous. Been having a field day spewing your liberal hate and lies, haven't you. Claiming racism is the first sign of desperation of the left.
And before you spew some obscene filth from that grease pit from Oregano BBQ Inc you call a mouth, my mother is dead.

 
At 11:55 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Careful Chuck. We can almost see your throbbing neck veins. Getting yourself over-agitated and angry can increase risk of cardiac arrest.

There's a trend of angry white men dropping like flies these days. We'd hate to lose the comic relief.


 
At 7:44 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

Thursday, May 19, 2016

Donald Trump has now grown his lead over Hillary Clinton in Rasmussen Reports’ first weekly White House Watch survey.

Trump earns 42% support to Clinton’s 37% when Likely U.S. Voters are asked whom they would vote for if the presidential election were held today.



How is your blood pressure now Dave? LOL LOL LOL!

I'm sorry for calling you a dumb prison guard and maybe Jesus will forgive me. You should be part of Obama's "brain trust" with your extraordinary leaning forward abilities to spin, deflect, and make pretzels. Why don't you start your own blog?

TP had a good analogy with the drowning child in the middle of the lake. After all, who do you trust with the 3 AM phone call?

 
At 7:58 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

Rasmussen is an advocacy polling outfit. Their numbers skew Republican always, but more so at critical moments.

That's why I quote them.

 
At 8:38 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-nevada-democrats/

Sanders supporters shut down the Nevada Democrats' convention Saturday, reportedly flinging chairs and sending death threats to the state party chairwoman. But in a statement Tuesday, Sanders accused state party leaders of ramming through rules that he said blocked his supporters and threatened the national party with potentially dire consequences in the general election.

"When we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked," Sanders said in the statement.

Clinton supporters have claimed to CNN that they have been targeted by Sanders supporters and have repeatedly asked the Vermont senator to control them. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevadan and Clinton supporter, spoke privately with Sanders before the convention in an attempt to head off any chaos and said afterward that he held Sanders' campaign accountable for the chaos.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-establishment-battle-boils-over/

The Sanders campaign on Tuesday did condemn unruly behavior from supporters and those who made threats to party leaders, but made clear it is sticking with its stance that the party is subverting the process in a way that benefits Clinton.

Throughout the year, Sanders and his supporters have complained about the nomination process and ways they believe it has helped Clinton, including debates held on Saturday nights, closed primaries in major states such as New York, and the use of superdelegates -- essentially free-agent party and union stalwarts who are overwhelmingly backing Clinton.

In an interview with CNN, Wasserman Schultz said that statement wasn't enough.
"I was deeply disturbed," she said. "The senator's response was anything but acceptable. It certainly did not condemn his supporters for acting violently or engaging in intimidation tactics and instead added more fuel the fire."




Tom Degan,

What the hell is going on with the Democratic Party? It is really getting good. Will Bernie run third party like Ralph? Will there be chairs flying at the National Convention? Any comments?


Dave Dubya:

"Chuckies source says: "Hearst's papers ran columns without rebuttal by Nazi leader Hermann Göring and Hitler himself, as well as Mussolini and other dictators in Europe and Latin America…..He still refused to attack Hitler."

Applying your pretzel logic that Hearst must have been for Hitler since he did not attack him, Bernie Sanders must be for his supporters acting violently because he has not condemned them. amirite?

 
At 9:33 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

I sure am glad Trump beat Cruz, Rubio & Kasich. He's the best choice to lead our republican party forward. He was the most liberal of all the republican candidates. I'm certain he'll win in a landslide in the general election.

TP is not too happy with Trump and his liberal views. I think it's great. A breath of fresh air into our grand old party. Some good NYC liberalism is just what this country needs.

Plus he got the endorsement of Sarah Palin. That's good enough for me.

 
At 11:04 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

"In 1934 after checking with Jewish leaders to ensure a visit would be to their benefit,[41] Hearst visited Berlin to interview Adolf Hitler. When Hitler asked why he was so misunderstood by the American press, Hearst retorted, "Because Americans believe in democracy, and are averse to dictatorship."[42] Hearst's papers ran columns without rebuttal by Nazi leader Hermann Göring and Hitler himself, as well as Mussolini and other dictators in Europe and Latin America.[43]"


My dear prison guard, why not post all the facts? Why are you always in spin cycle mode?

 
At 11:18 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

There are no prison guards here, but delusions and paranoia persist.

"Because Americans believe in democracy, and are averse to dictatorship."

Facts:

Those were the good old days. Göring, Hitler, Mussolini, Hearst and Republicans all hated FDR.

Then Bush and Cheney crushed democracy, stole an election, lied about Saddam being in cahoots with al-Qaeda, lied about "nukular" aluminum tubes,lied about biological labs, demonized dissent, imposed torture and incarceration without charges and legal representation, and then launched a war of aggression like dictators do.

Now we face Donald "Kill the families, build the wall, Bomb the shit out of them, round 'em up" Trump America.

The above Hearst quote no longer applies, thanks largely to Smokey Chuck's neo-fascist Republican Party.

 
At 12:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck shows he's brainless by deciding I'm someone else, laughable.
Mean? I've got nothing on you and the rest of the childis fighters on this shit blog.

 
At 12:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this isn’t the end for the Republican Party, it’ll be a shame. They dominated American political life for 50 years and were never anything but monsters. They bred in their voters the incredible attitude that Republicans were the only people within our borders who raised children, loved their country, died in battle or paid taxes. They even sullied the word “American” by insisting they were the only real ones. They preferred Lubbock to Paris, and their idea of an intellectual was Newt Gingrich. Their leaders, from Ralph Reed to Bill Frist to Tom DeLay to Rick Santorum to Romney and Ryan, were an interminable assembly line of shrieking, witch-hunting celibates, all with the same haircut – the kind of people who thought Iran-Contra was nothing, but would grind the affairs of state to a halt over a blow job or Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube.

A century ago, the small-town American was Gary Cooper: tough, silent, upright and confident. The modern Republican Party changed that person into a haranguing neurotic who couldn’t make it through a dinner without quizzing you about your politics. They destroyed the American character. No hell is hot enough for them. And when Trump came along, they rolled over like the weaklings they’ve always been, bowing more or less instantly to his parodic show of strength.


- Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone Magazine

 
At 5:38 PM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

"Facts:

Those were the good old days. Göring, Hitler, Mussolini, Hearst and Republicans all hated FDR.

Then Bush and Cheney crushed democracy, stole an election, ..... "


What about in between?

You forgot the big war that was started by LBJ i.e. the "War On Poverty". This war shows no signs of ending. How many trillions have been spent to end poverty but has only created a vast liberal plantation of nanny state dependents? They are given enough crumbs in exchange for pulling that Democratic Party "free stuff" lever. amirite?


It sure is entertaining watching the chairs fly at the Democratic State Primaries.

How about poor Barbara Boxer pissing in her Depends. LOL LOL!

 
At 6:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Donald Trump

LOL LOL!

 
At 8:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave,

Have you heard any chatter at your mosque about who brought down egyptair flight 804?

 
At 8:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AnonymousChuckSoreLoser at 8:02 PM:

Have you booked an appointment with a therapist yet?

Put the bottle down... You can do this.

 
At 10:08 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Amazing, I've been fishing since 5:30 am 5/20/2016 and haven't posted a word since 10:31 PM on 5/19/2016

It's so much fun to live inside the head of liberals, they are so empty!

 
At 8:20 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as Smokey Lagumski): "It sure is entertaining watching the chairs fly at the Democratic State Primaries."

There were no chairs flying, but if I'm wrong and you can prove me wrong, please do. It was all a hoax...then a blatant lie.

It's an example of the best our corporate mainstream media can do. If they're not overtly omitting what would embarrass their partners, or worse, damage them...they'll do their best to create "news" where none exists.

Nonetheless, it's going to be a very raucous summer. Need I say more?

 
At 8:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ChuckSmokeySoreLoser went on a fishing trip with some prison guards, and came back with a red snapper.

Was there any drinking on the trip?

 
At 8:55 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

This is why we remain a nation run by corporatists and warhawks (and usually "led by" chickenhawks), and why the system is rigged to "elect" Clinton. Here are some unarguably true statements from the article:

"The incipient military-industrial complex that President Dwight Eisenhower warned of in his farewell speech in 1961 has indeed become a central, defining feature of American society and economy. To talk of «American free-market capitalism» is a staggering oxymoron when so much of the country’s economy is wholly dependent on government-funded militarism.

Or put it another way: if the US military budget were somehow drastically reduced in line with other nations, the all-powerful military-industrial complex and the American state as we know it would collapse. No doubt something better would evolve in time, but the impact on established power interests would be calamitous and therefore is trenchantly resisted.
"

and...

"But this demonizing of Russia, as with other global enemies, is a necessary prop for the American military-industrial complex and its essential functioning for the US economy.

The $600 billion-a-year military spend by Washington is roughly tenfold what Russia spends. And yet, inverting reality, Russia is presented as the threat!

The US military budget is greater than the combined budgets of the world’s next nine big military spenders: China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, India, Japan and South Korea, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Arguably, the US economy as we know it – dominated by Pentagon, corporate, Wall Street and congressional interests – would cease to exist were it not for the gargantuan government-subsidized military budget.
"

It's "capitalism" in its death throes. It's a real-life scenario of capitalism on life-support systems while socialism is holding the bag.

Welcome to the American delusion.

 
At 9:33 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Maybe Republican Trumpie Chuck would forget about prison guards for minute and comment on his fellow Republican Trumpie Rick.

He offers a barking carnival act that can be best described as Trumpism: a toxic mix of demagoguery, mean-spiritedness and nonsense that will lead the Republican Party to perdition if pursued.

Let no one be mistaken – Donald Trump’s candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded... most telling to me is not Mr. Trump’s bombast, his refusal to show any remorse for his comments about Senator McCain, but his admission that there is not a single time in his life that he sought the forgiveness of God.

A man too arrogant, too self-absorbed, to seek God’s forgiveness is precisely the type of leader John Adams prayed would never occupy the White House.

When a candidate under the Republican banner would abandon the tradition of magnanimous leadership of the presidency, when he would seek to demonize millions of citizens, when he would stoop to attack POWs for being captured, I can only ask as Senator Welch did of Senator McCarthy, “Have you no sense of decency, sir?”


Re-born Trump supporter Rick Perry showing his "flexible" Republican sense of decency.

"Values".

 
At 10:13 AM, Anonymous Jason said...

Bernie has lost! Badly.

Far worse in fact than Hillary lost to Obama.

It is basic, simple, math. Bernie needs to go. The sooner the better.

Its time to give Hillary the nomination.

I never dreamed of such ego coming from a socialist!

I guess that's why communism is destined to fail everywhere it's tried.... it's human nature. People always want to be disproportionately rewarded and to be regarded as more important than they actually are (in spite of evidence to the contrary).

 
At 10:23 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Low information voters are duped into thinking Bernie is a communist. They are also totally ignorant of the fact MOST Americans support Bernie's positions.

 
At 10:31 AM, Anonymous Jason said...

You need to learn some basic math sir.

Hillary has over 3 million more votes than Bernie.

If MOST Americans support Bernie's positions, Bernie would be ahead of Hillary.

Do you concur?

 
At 10:52 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

If MOST Americans support Bernie's positions, Bernie would be ahead of Hillary. Do you concur?

Not if it is understood that in many cases only party members are voting. The Democratic Party is doing what the GOP tried to do; promote their established candidates over outsiders.

We know that Bernie Sanders’ “radical left wing progressive views”, as portrayed by corporate media, are in fact mainstream views.

How Mainstream is Bernie Sanders?

MOST Americans agree with Bernie Sanders on all his major policy positions, but the corporate media doesn’t want us to know this. Their corporate sponsors prefer to label Bernie as an outsider on the fringe.

Most Americans agree with Bernie on wealth distribution, Citizens United, education, student debt, climate change, etc.

This is incomprehensible to the fanatics of the far Right.

 
At 11:26 AM, Anonymous Jason said...

You spewed a lot of talking points sir, but If MOST Americans support Bernie's positions, Bernie would be ahead of Hillary which is not the case.

Bernie's scorched earth campaigning will give Mr. Trump the election.

Its time to support the party, the old fart needs to throw in the towel.

 
At 11:35 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jason,

I "spewed" facts supported by evidence. You are offering opinion.

The fact you falsely conflate Democratic socialism with communism indicates you are the person spewing the talking points. This paints you with a Republican bias.

Hillary will get the coronation er, nomination. Relax, she's the best Republican candidate out there. (Satire alert)

 
At 11:36 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

"unarguably true statements" That's what you believe JG and that doesn't make it the truth.

JG, I read of your concern with consolidation of "corporate domination" in the media as exampled by your noting the reduction from "hundreds of independent media outlets to just six".

The same should be said regarding the number of commercial airlines, railroads, trucking, domestic auto manufacturers and phone companies.

Do you feel this has happened in a vacuum of uncontrolled capitalism or is the result of action(s) taken by the Federal govt.?

At the same time the Federal govt is consolidating and expanding it's control and therefore power over the 50 States who make up the Union. Do you see a parallel?

Well JG?

 
At 12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of all the pieces of legislation that Ronald Reagan desecrated during his time in office, the Sherman Antitrust Act might be the most important. The Sherman Antitrust Act was passed in 1890 and prevented businesses from reducing competition in the marketplace and even required the federal government to investigate companies that were in violation of the law. Ronald Reagan decided to stop enforcing the Sherman Act and within a few years, local businesses started to dry up and big companies began to take over. Local convenient and hardware stores were disappearing while Walmart and Target stores began popping up more frequently. Ronald Reagan's policies catered towards the wealthy and put the economic weight on the shoulders of the middle class and the poor.

- The Examiner

 
At 12:11 PM, Anonymous Jason said...

"I "spewed" facts supported by evidence."

Show me your evidence. We both know you can't.

It would be no surprise to me if you were one of those global warming Chicken Littles.

You have all the evidence in the world to show that the global cooling/global warming/climate change apocalypse will be arrive unless we act now. Your high priest Al Gore said in 2006 the apocalypse would happen in 10 years. Well 10 years have passed. Lets thank Jesus that the apocalypse has been postponed.

 
At 12:22 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG,

Since you cut and paste your post, let me go a bit further by paraphrasing from a letter to the editor of the St.Louis Post, with my modifications (not cut and paste), originally written about the transgender bath room debate.

A homeless man who due to the natural neurochemical condition of his brain held the sincere belief he was from a place called "Upper Earth". Does this mean he should be given an immigration lawyer, since self-perception dictates reality? Of course not as there is no evidence of an "Upper Earth".

Today's liberals operate under the same rule, IE: my perception of capitalism and conservatism,(list here anything counter to socialism), is reality even if there is no or very limited physical evidence to support that perception. Just as a person's gender "self perception" does not match the physical evidence, a liberals perception do not justify ignoring physical realities.

 
At 12:30 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Jason,

Just a point, if I may, in reguards to your latest post.

Regardless of the reality of Climate Change/Global Warming, there is no physical evidence that man is causing this change, any more than there is any physical evidence that man cause the beginning and end of the last Ice Age.



 
At 12:42 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Your high priest Al Gore" tells us "low information Jason" is looking a lot like Chuck.

We can count on Low Information Jason and Trumpie Chuckie to provide our science education, amirite?

 
At 12:50 PM, Anonymous Jason said...

The sky is falling!

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaack buck buck!


How about the following Truth about an Inconvenient Prediction?

In January, 2006 — when promoting his Oscar-winning "documentary", An Inconvenient Truth — Al Gore declared that unless we took “drastic measures” to reduce greenhouse gasses, the world would reach a “point of no return” in a mere ten years.

He called it a “true planetary emergency.” Well, the ten years have passed, we’re still here, and the climate activists have postponed the apocalypse. Again.

 
At 1:09 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

And there's Low Information Jason spewing the same words as Trumpie Chuckie.

Better ignore the record high temps and low Arctic Sea ice. Jason Chuckie has a political agenda.

 
At 1:20 PM, Anonymous Just The Facts TM said...

JG, you forgot the second equally important part of Ike's speech:


"Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central, it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

 
At 1:22 PM, Anonymous Just The Facts TM said...

What about the parasitic scientific-technocratic self proclaimed elite who feed off huge government research grants? This also what Ike warmed about. What a nice lucrative way to make a good living, and at tax payers expense to boot!

Today, the clearest example of the risks arising from the scientific-technocratic elite is the global warming debate. Consider the career trajectory of one of the leading climate alarmists, Penn State climatologist Michael Mann, who was implicated in the 2009 “ClimateGate” scandal, when leaked emails from a British university showed some of the world’s leading climatologists discussing how to manipulate data and suppress studies that contradicted their work. Far from being a rogue actor outside the scientific mainstream, Dr. Mann has served as principal or co-principal investigator on research projects funded by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the National Science Foundation, the Department of Energy, the U.S. Agency for International Development, and the Office of Naval Research.

Indeed, much research has been suppressed. Science does suggest that the Earth is slowly warming, but arguing that the sky isn’t falling is not much of strategy for securing research grants. As a result, research funding requests increasingly are justified on the Chicken Little paradigm. But, as our understanding of the complexities of our planet’s climate have improved, we have learned that other factors – the variability of the energy reaching us from the sun and the feedback effects, both positive and negative, resulting from additional warming and the clouding and other changes that produces – bring the picture painted by climate alarmists into question. Moreover, a warmer climate has positive effects as well as negative ones. To view change as always a bad thing is strange. This elite bias toward stasis can take rather strange forms, as noted in the recent Washington Post headline, “Spring Flowers Seen Earlier this Year: Climate Change Feared.”

 
At 2:03 PM, Anonymous Sandra said...

May Ralph Nader rot in hell!

And if Bernie keeps it up may he also rot in hell!

 
At 3:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ChuckSoreLoser has nothing to say about Reagan and the Sherman Antitrust Act.

I didn't think he would.

 
At 3:14 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

dAnonymous still afraid to post using a name? Not surprised.

 
At 3:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck Morre, still posting under a stolen, spelled-wrong name?

Not surprised.

Now share your opinion of what Reagan did to the Sherman Antitrust Act.

And no googling!

 
At 3:31 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

What really happened at the 2016 Nevada Democrat Convention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVa4G32M7Bc

Perception vs evidence/reality.

Green energy is safe.

http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-largest-solar-plant-just-torched-itself-1777767880

Perception vs reality.

Who repealed the Glass–Steagall Act?

 
At 3:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Couldn't answer the question, instead changed the subject. Would you feel more comfortable replying under one of your other fake names?

The Sherman Anti-Trust Act.

 
At 6:49 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

I don't debate androgynous liberal fools who hide behind the skirts of anonymous.

 
At 7:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meanwhile you hide behind a stolen name and a dozen aliases.

I was serious when I said you should seek therapy. Only a mentally ill person would behave the way you've behaved on this blog over the years. You're on medicare, right? Surely you can find a doctor who accepts it.

 
At 12:00 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Clucky still afraid to answer a simple question?

Not surprised.

 
At 7:55 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Sandra: "May Ralph Nader rot in hell!

Why, for being one of the most truthful and honest people in the political sphere?

Mr. Nader is one of the few fighters for justice and constitutional rights still out there. He's one of the few who speaks truth to power about the corporatization of our Republic, and realizes and understands that democracy in America is quickly becoming a relic of the past.


"And if Bernie keeps it up may he also rot in hell!"

The ads say if he continues to keep it up after four hours, to seek medical assistance, but I'm not sure whether that's categorically considered a mortal sin and worthy of damnation in Hell. Well unless, Sandra, you were the one responsible for his "friskiness". ;-) You mention it as if you have firsthand knowledge.

 
At 8:15 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: " 'unarguably true statements' That's what you believe JG and that doesn't make it the truth."

Mr. Eisenhower, a Republican, warned us about the encroachment of the military-industrial complex. He was president of the United States when he warned the citizens of this country about it, and I'd suppose he was in a very good position to make an assessment like he did.

Chuck, are you telling me you do not believe what he said?

Now that I think about it, Chuck, the same could be said about the Bible, for example. Just because one believes it, as I assume you do, doesn't make it true. Does it?

 
At 9:47 AM, Anonymous Harry From Wallingford said...

Chuck,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVa4G32M7Bc

Good video at the Nevada Democratic Convention.

The Crooked Hillary machine steals the state from the Old Vermont socialist.

Good display of democracy that the Democrats are always squawking about! LOL!

 
At 10:24 AM, Anonymous Harry From Wallingford said...

"Careful Chuck. We can almost see your throbbing neck veins. Getting yourself over-agitated and angry can increase risk of cardiac arrest.

There's a trend of angry white men dropping like flies these days. We'd hate to lose the comic relief."



Look at the trend of Trump moving up, Crooked Hillary moving down:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/post-primary-rally-boosts-trump-albeit-challenges-aplenty/story?id=39265102

ABC News May 22, 2016 (Does ABC News skew Republican always?)

Trump (Make America Great Again) 46%
Crooked Hillary 44%


Hows the blood pressure today Dave? We can almost see your throbbing marxist neck veins. amirite?

 
At 10:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Harry" your candidate is Trump.


TP says he's a liberal in disguise.







LOL

 
At 10:33 AM, Anonymous Jim said...

Hillary is corrupt and incompetent. If there was an honest administration in power, she would be in jail.

Bernie is simply clueless. He hasn't had a real job, just a government teat.

Trump shows the left to be bungling fools, who are being exposed as frauds.

Tom Degan, pass the pop corn, I can't wait for the disaster that the convention will be for hillary, if she isn't in jail by then.

 
At 10:44 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"marxist neck veins" LOL!!!

So Trumpie Harry has a tingle up his fascist leg?

 
At 11:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim! Good to hear from you! How have you been. Have you heard anything from Sore Loser? He's been too quiet lately.

I agree with you about Trump. He really showed the left to be bungling fools. He showed the right to be bungling fools, too. I love how he mowed down that deep bench like they were crabgrass. Cruz, Walker, Fiorina, Bush, Carson, Kasich... they thought they could beat him and he made fools of them all!

So now he's our best bet to beat the liberals. I'm feeling good about this election. Are you? Isn't Trump the best? And he got Sarah Palin's endorsement! When I saw that I said to Chuck "There's no way he can lose now. With Sarah Palin on his side, those fucking liberals are toast." Amirite?

 
At 1:24 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

How many names is Chuckie (sore loser) posting under these days?

 
At 1:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good God, Mozart1220, I've lost count.

The funny thing is, he's only got about three or four things to say, but about ten aliases. So naturally he gives himself away.
It's like ten different people all saying the same thing. Using the exact same words and spelling the same words wrong.

 
At 9:44 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Volcano erupts in Costa Rica, members of man caused climate change faith will blame conservatives for the resulting increase in global temperatures.

 
At 10:07 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Chuck your entire premise here for the last 6 or 7 years is total bullshit. You feel Republicans and Conservatives are with out fault and Liberals are to blame for 100 percent of all the problems of this country.

Only a ignorant partisan hack like yourself could believe nonsense like that.

Which party was the driving force behind rescinding the Glass–Steagall Act?

 
At 12:20 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

James,

I guess my posting the truth about your faith in man caused climate change upset you
Get over it

Why it was Bill Clinton who signed the bill instead of vetoing it.
Hope your blood pressure returns to normal

Sleep tight!

 
At 10:52 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as Just The Facts TM: "JG, you forgot the second equally important part of Ike's speech:"

Not forgotten -- just not tied to the point I making...which, by the way, what was yours?

Since we're on the subject, Eisenhower ended that farewell address with the following (including my own commentary, in bold font, to show how the modern GOP turned fanatically hateful and uncaring for those in need and without):

"We pray that peoples of all faiths [Wow, did he say ALL faiths?!], all races [ALL races!], all nations [You mean, he wanted ALL nations -- even those of Muslim populations?!], may have their great human needs satisfied [Wow! Wow! Wow!..like clean water, food to eat...things like that?!]; that those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all who yearn for freedom may experience its spiritual blessings; that those who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibilities [which, like today's American citizenry, is totally disengaged politically...]; that all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity [Wow!]; that the scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be made to disappear from the earth [which, meaning, has to be done through governmental actions and resources. How else can it get done? I mean, really?], and that, in the goodness of time, all peoples will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and love [Wow! Wow! Wow!...and to think, said by a Republican! Amazing! (What has happened to the GOP in the last 55 years?)]."

 
At 12:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

McConell - the most plain face I've ever seen on a human. He should add a wart just for some character.

 
At 12:50 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trumpie Chuckie will NOT comment on the content of Ike's address. Ike would be seen as a commie to his Radical Right Bubble Cult.

 
At 1:43 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Jefferson's Garter Belt,

Wow, since when did you give a hoot about faith?

 
At 2:36 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Yeah, JG. Why don't you give a hoot about Trumpie Chuckie's faith in his Leader?

 
At 5:50 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Trumpie Chuckie has a new article in his "faith". And we know cults must have faithful true believers.

The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.

It MUST be true. Donald said it. Now we know where that global conspiracy started. First the Chinese, then the US government, then every other source of climate science...except for oil, gas and Koch companies. For only THEY are the enlightened few who must spread the "faith", amirite?

What. A. Cult.

 
At 9:56 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Ex-Secretary of Nobel Commission Says He Regrets
Barack Obama’s Award.”\

Blame the black guy?

 
At 10:11 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Human Rights Groups Furious Obama Has Removed Arms Embargo On Vietnam.

Another example of America's foreign policy making the world a more dangerous place Jefferson's Garter Belt?

 
At 10:36 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie STILL can't tell us what conservatives have done for the poor and middle class the last 40 years, even AFTER I promptly answered HIS question in detail.

Bak, bak, BACKAWWW!!!

 
At 2:08 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

It was an insult," the comic actor says.

Tommy Chong is in disbelief after he was disinvited by the Bernie Sanders campaign from introducing the presidential hopeful hours before a rally in East Los Angeles.

The iconic comic actor and outspoken marijuana advocate tells The Hollywood Reporter that the Sanders campaign was happy to have his endorsement months back, but when it came time for the two men to appear in public together, someone got "cold feet," he says.

"It's lip service to get the votes, but they don't want to endorse what I stand for and what I've stood for all my professional career," Chong said right after he was uninvited to the rally. "It was an insult."

Is Bernie going "main stream"?

First on CNN: Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe under federal investigation for campaign contributions. Friend of the Clinton's in legal trouble, how unbelievable.

Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert McDonald on Monday compared the length of time veterans wait to receive health care at the VA to the length of time people wait for rides at Disneyland, and said his agency shouldn't use wait times as a measure of success because Disney doesn't either.
Or as Hillary says "what difference does it matter now anyway".

Back in April, just before the New York primary, Hillary Clinton’s campaign aired a commercial on upstate television stations touting her work as secretary of state forcing “China, India, some of the world’s worst polluters” to make “real change.” She promised to “stand firm with New Yorkers opposing fracking, giving communities the right to say ‘no.'”

The television spot, which was not announced and does not appear on the official campaign YouTube page with most of Clinton’s other ads, implied a history of opposition to fracking, here and abroad. But emails obtained by The Intercept from the Department of State reveal new details of behind-the-scenes efforts by Clinton and her close aides to export American-style hydraulic fracturing — the horizontal drilling technique best known as fracking — to countries all over the world.

Far from challenging fossil fuel companies, the emails obtained by The Intercept show that State Department officials worked closely with private sector oil and gas companies, pressed other agencies within the Obama administration to commit federal government resources including technical assistance for locating shale reserves, and distributed agreements with partner nations pledging to help secure investments for new fracking projects.

What! Hillary lied? Must be "Vast right-wing conspiracy".

 
At 2:16 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

It’s a lie often repeated that Obama was a Constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago law school. In fact, he was just a lecturer there for a short time who never much impressed his colleagues. Watching this administration in action one wonders what, if anything, he understands about the Constitution at all. His is an administration based on flouting it.

It’s true that the judicial process moves slowly and such conduct can continue for a while until halted, but repeatedly the courts are catching up.

In fact, the Supreme Court has ruled unanimously against the administration 20 times.

Clarice Feldman

 
At 8:46 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: "Wow, since when did you give a hoot about faith?"

I've always "given a hoot" about faith -- as long as it's not fanatical, misguided, or unrealistic. I "give a hoot" about religious faith when it's not imposed upon the better instincts of others. In other words, when it's kept to one's self.

One of the main reasons I deplore fundamentalist evangelical Christianity (and the ignoramuses who follow it) is its total non-understanding of the intentions of the men who composed the different writings -- when combined, are offered up as "The Book" -- and the history of how and when these writings were selected, and the context behind it. There is absolutely zero understanding. After all, "it's the word of God!". What else is there to understand? ;-)

Another reason is there are way too many proselytizing dumb asses.

I have to admit, though, it has been history's great social herding mechanism. The elites, throughout history, have used it greatly to their advantage.


Dave Dubya: "Yeah, JG. Why don't you give a hoot about Trumpie Chuckie's faith in his Leader?"

Dave, I can't "give a hoot" because I haven't seen any computer models that confirm his leader exists. ;-)

 
At 9:10 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Well, this one is too hot not to share...

"Wall Street On Parade has learned, by piecing together the SEC filings of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and previous Federal Reserve studies, that these two companies that have been in U.S. government conservatorship since the 2008 financial crisis, continue to pay out billions of dollars to the biggest Wall Street banks on their derivatives contracts."

The article's concluding paragraph:

"When there are 6,000 banks in the U.S. but only five of them are compelled to hold over 90 percent of hundreds of trillions of dollars in derivatives, it’s time for the American people to demand and receive cogent answers. That is unlikely to happen without the political revolution that Senator Bernie Sanders is calling for."

 
At 9:32 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

This just in!...

According to (the late) Jerry Falwell, the people responsible for 9/11 were all the American women who ever had abortions. Watch this bit by Samantha Bee. According to her, Falwell made the claim two days after.

Gee, I guess it wasn't the Saudis, after all. But wait!...isn't Falwell implying it was an inside job? ;-)

 
At 10:02 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Isn't it amazing how DEEP Cluckie has to go to find ways to critisize Liberals? One wonders how much time he speands sweating over his keyboard digging into the internet (when he's not studying Communist websites) looking for ANYthing negative.

And STILL he can't answer a simple, logical question.

The poor, paranoid, DESPARATE, sap.

 
At 10:39 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Jefferson Garter Belt has always "given a hoot" about faith -- as long as it's not fanatical, misguided, or unrealistic.

In other words as long as it doesn't keep him from doing what he wants to. Like Islam does, oh wait, I meant to say Christianity, cause that is who is beheading and slaughtering those who are not their type of Christians. It's the Christian's who riot when the name of Jesus is mocked, and murder cartoonists who make fun of their faith.

Has Jefferson's Garter Belt ever noticed that the only religion that is at war with the rest of the world is the religion of "peace"? In America the business of Phil Robertson, or Dan T. Cathy are boycotted just for expressing their Christian faith, in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, people are beheaded if they dont follow the rules of the religion of peace.
When are liberals going to acknowledge that women and gays are being slaughtered in the name of Islam? Something that doesn't happen in non Muslim countries? My guess, based on what I've read here and have seen here, is never.

Talk about twisted!

 
At 10:48 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

What faith was held, and defended, by the terrorist who killed at Planned Parenthood?

What faith was held, and "defended", by the terrorist who murdered Dr. Tiller IN CHURCH!!

What "faith" was held by Tim McVeigh the worst American terrorist in history?

All Christians, all anti-government, all anti-choice. All conservative.

Better blame Black Lives Matter, amirite?

 
At 10:48 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Talk about twisted.

 
At 11:06 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

How about Trumpie Chuckie's faith in Trump's "American ISIS propaganda video"?

He's a true believer, all right.

Just. Like. A. Cult.

Talk about twisted.

 
At 11:07 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

How about Trumpie Chuckie's faith that believes in a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists?

He's a true believer, all right.

Just. Like. A. Cult.

Talk about twisted.

 
At 11:08 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

How about Trumpie Chuckie's faith that believes liberals are commies and nazis?

He's a true believer, all right.

Just. Like. A. Cult.

Talk about twisted.

 
At 11:09 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Shall we continue?

 
At 11:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck, you used to comment here under the name "Jefferson's Accordion" right?

That was so funny! Taking someone's online name, changing it slightly, and then commenting under it.

What does your baby jesus say about stealing? Just curious.


Use any alias you wish. If you want to answer.

Hint: S O R E L O S E R was my favorite.

Of all your aliases.

 
At 11:23 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

What does your baby jesus say about stealing?

I know! I know!

IOKIYAR!

 
At 1:35 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

How racist is America when a black man (Bill Cosby) is indicted for sexual assault accusations, but a white man (Bill Clinton) is not for the same accusations?

Oh I forgot, he's a Democrat.

"Jefferson's Accordion"? Never heard of that, doesn't fit JG at all.

Wonder what the weather is like in Delaware today, any indication that man is causing the ocean to rise?

LOL

 
At 1:51 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

How about Trumpie Chuckie's faith that believes in a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists?

any indication that man is causing the ocean to rise? LOL

Ask and ye shall receive. Thanks Chuck.

He's a true believer, all right.

Just. Like. A. Cult.

Talk about twisted.

 
At 2:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ChuckSoreLoser is very worried about racism.

And look out! He knows where you live!!! Delaware!!!


Speaking of rape, I just heard Ken Starr lost his job. Sad!


ChuckSoreConfusedLoser: Have you found a therapist who takes medicare? Let us know how you're doing. The correct combination of counseling and medication should put you on the road to recovery.

Keep us posted on your progress.



I'm serious.

 
At 2:25 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Chuck could benefit from six months of daily water boarding, I'll bring the buckets!

 
At 4:00 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Freudian slip?

While talking about Bill Cosby’s appearance in a Pennsylvania courtroom over sex assault allegations, MSNBC anchor Steve Kornacki mistakenly said “Bill Clinton.”

Was it a mistake??

 
At 4:11 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Trumpie Chuck agrees with Trump on an "American ISIS propaganda video".

Was it a mistake??

 
At 4:14 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Yeah Starr got fired not because he committed the alleged rapes but because he was President while the alleged rapes took place.
But Clinton who lied and was dis-barred as a lawyer, he, well we all know what he did and was never formally charged. Racist America blame the black guy Cosby, let the white guy Clinton walk free. Oh, I forgot, he is a Democrat.

Some comparison, you missed it by that..much.

Hansen be careful, the veins in your neck are starting to bulge and your face is turning red. Surly this isn't the first time you heard of these things? No surprise, a liberal when faced with the truth would want to shut down the source. And would do so with violence. Typical liberal who when he can't compete in the free market place of ideas, issues threats. in an attempt to shut down his opposition. So very Fascist of you James!

 
At 4:33 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

So very Fascist of you James!

So what Trumpie Chuckie is telling us is it's fascistic to waterboard someone...great insight...except...are your ready? IOKIYAR!

 
At 4:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SoreLoserChuck: "Starr got fired not because he committed the alleged rapes but because he was President while the alleged rapes took place."

the Washington Post:
On Starr’s watch, the school is accused of failing to respond to rapes or sexual assaults reported by at least six women students from 2009-2016. Although the problem of sexual assault at the university goes beyond the football team, at least eight former Baylor football players have been accused of violence against women over the last eight years and Coach Art Briles and Athletic Director Ian McCaw have received increasing criticism. The regents, according to Brown, believe Starr bears more responsibility in the matter than Briles.

 
At 4:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

washington post, continued:

In an odd bit of timing, Starr recently praised Clinton, almost, according to the New York Times, “seeming to absolve” the former president and calling him “the most gifted politician of the baby boomer generation.”

“There are certain tragic dimensions which we all lament,” he said during a panel discussion on the presidency at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. “That having been said, the idea of this redemptive process afterwards, we have certainly seen that powerfully” in Clinton’s post-presidency.

Starr went on to say of Clinton: “His genuine empathy for human beings is absolutely clear. It is powerful, it is palpable and the folks of Arkansas really understood that about him — that he genuinely cared. The ‘I feel your pain’ is absolutely genuine.”


ChuckSoreLoser replied to me! Even though I'm a non-hyperlinked anonymous!

 
At 5:01 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Good one Dave, you beat me to it!

 
At 5:01 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Although there is plenty of room inside of it, I wouldn't let it go to your head.

 
At 5:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ChuckSoreLoser, do with agree with Trump that there was something fishy about Ted Cruz's dad hanging around with Oswald a few days before JFK was killed?


Oh, and just a heads up for everyone here. You can expect to hear a lot from ChuckSoreConfusedLoser about Bill Clinton's penis from now on. He'l be discussing it endlessly.

 
At 6:32 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Amazing, it takes at least 3 liberals to combat this one Conservative. Like I said before, liberalism can not compete in the free market place of ideas. They know that's why the try to limit any opposition to their failed socialist ideas.

Bill Clinton is getting away with what Bill Cosby is going to trial for.

 

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