Friday, May 06, 2016

The Death of the GOP


Here is what I wrote on this site on August 4 last year on the subject of Donald Trump: 

"I really don't believe that he will be nominated at the 2016 Republican National Convention. Then again,  that's what I said thirty-five years ago regarding a feeble-minded, washed-up "B" movie star; I said the same thing twenty years later about a half-witted frat boy from Crawford, Texas. I had better check myself. With the United States as seriously dumbed-down as it has become during the last four decades, it's probably a good rule of thumb not to dismiss the possibility of something that at one time would have been seen as impossible...."

Donald Trump is at this hour the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party in the year 2016.

Let me repeat that just in case it hasn't sunk in:

Donald Trump is at this hour the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party in the year 2016.

Within a few hours of Trump winning the Indiana primary, Ted Cruz took himself out of the running. The following day, John Kasich bowed out. I received an email yesterday from a woman named Jaime Brewer, who lives in Princeton, Indiana. She told me that she was moving back to her home town of Clay City, Illinois. She said that she was not meant to live in so broken a state. I could relate. I used to be proud of my Hoosier heritage (my late mother was a native of South Bend). Not so much anymore. The Midwest was at one time a pretty progressive region. That was then. This is now. 

What's the matter with Kansas?

What happened in Indiana on Tuesday night was the Republican Party's death knell. It's over. It's fucking over. The moment has arrived that I've been predicting for the last decade. If you'll be kind enough to recall, the very first little ditty that I ever composed on this site - nearly ten years ago - was called: "George W. Bush - The Last Republican President". At that moment I wasn't entirely sure that I was correct in my prediction. Within four years I was totally convinced. Forgive me for tooting my own horn, but you had to have been blind not to see this coming. For the first time in 160 years, one Democratic administration will follow another Democratic administration into the White House on Inauguration Day. Think about that.
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And while you're at it, think about this: A political party that was founded 160 years ago on the noble idea that human bondage would forever be obliterated from humanity's landscape is tonight lying in smoldering ruins on Donald Trump's funeral pyre. Note to the Republican National Committee: Strike the tents, fold up the chairs and go home. It will survive for a few more years in the House and the Senate, but as far as the presidency is concerned, the bells of the doomed are tolling, baby! Your party is dead. 

Not that I'm complaining, mind you....
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From Abraham Lincoln to Donald Trump: How completely pathetic. Forgive me for finding this entire mess so indescribably comical. For anyone paying attention, these are wondrous days to be alive. It's almost like having a deck chair on the Titanic - knowing that you can miraculously extricate yourself from the disaster the moment the ship disappears into the water. This really is an incredible time to be a witness to. It's not the equivalent to watching human beings walking on the moon forty-seven years ago, but it's pretty damned close. To think that it would ever come to this....

Do you remember one year ago? At a time when the number of wannabees packed into the GOP clown car was seventeen, the only one of the lot even marginally qualified for the office of the presidency was former New York governor, George Pataki. Not that I would ever have voted for the guy, but when placed in comparison to the likes of Donald Trump, he has the gravitas of Theodore Roosevelt. And yet, on his best day, he barely registered in the polls; two or three percent was his highest showing. What does that tell you?

Worse still, because of his campaign, Ted Cruz has strengthened his base with the nitwits who vote in Texas elections. I was hoping that Ted would be a political flash-in-the-pan, but it appears that he's going to be around for a while. That's okay. We could use the unintentional laughs.

As stated in earlier posts, I'm not-at-all thrilled with the idea that - barring a miracle - Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. She's a living, breathing reminder to me why I bolted that worthless party eighteen years ago this month. That being said, as awful a candidate as she is, she's still light years preferable to anything the Republicans are bound to puke up - not only in this year - but in every year going back to 1960. You know things have gotten bad when a corporate handmaiden like Hillary can be viewed as a reasonable alternative,

I need a drink.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

AFTERTHOUGHT: 

A silent prayer of thanks to God for sending our way Father Daniel Berrigan, a man who took the Sermon on the Mount literally. This radical priest spent a total of seven of his ninety-four years in prison protesting America's sick obsession with its military industrial complex. 

On May 17, 1968, Father Dan (who passed away this week), his brother, Father Phillip Berrigan, and seven others, entered a draft board in Catonsville, Maryland, seized the records of hundreds of young men (disproportionately African American), went out to the parking lot and set them aflame with homemade napalm.

Dan Berrigan was the real deal.

174 Comments:

At 3:55 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "For the first time in 160 years, one Democratic administration will follow another Democratic administration into the White House on Inauguration Day. Think about that."

While maybe technically correct, it's a foregone conclusion that the Democratic Party of today is really the other wing of -- for lack of an official term -- the "Corporatist Party". There's one-party rule in America now. Sure, it's not as blatant, and in your face, as the Communist Party in the former Soviet Union, but it's real nonetheless.

 
At 4:09 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Indeed it is. That is the reason I left that party 18 years ago this month.

 
At 4:38 AM, Blogger Clay said...

I wanted Warren, but she wouldn't run.
So I donated to Bernie, but now he's done.
Now I'll vote for Clinton, (I'm a true Democrat),
But won't give her money, she has Wall St. for that.

 
At 4:42 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Well said, Clay. Elizabeth Warren was my first choice as well.

 
At 11:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fetish with the death of the GOP continues.

It's getting really old. You need new material.

 
At 12:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think you need a drink now, just wait, you will be an alcoholic in less than a year.

 
At 12:24 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


There's nothing to celebrate here. No funeral for the GOP.

The Gilded Oily Plutocrats are a cancer on democracy, labor rights, education, science, and equality, and will thrive in the states and congress, and the courts are still loaded with them.

They've proven they don't need the White House to get their wars, de-regulation, and trade agreements. They have plenty of corporatist partners in their so-called Democratic "opposition party".

No matter how dishonest, they will always have talk radio, FOX, Kochs, and corporate media granting them all the support and false equivalence in reporting they need to be a major party.


 
At 12:47 PM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

Bernie should run as an Independent. It is quite possible he could get more votes than Trump or Clinton. What is there to lose ? The worst that can happen is either Trump or Clinton becoming the next President. That will happen if Bernie does not run as an Independent. So I say what the heck, give it a shot !!

 
At 12:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your doom and gloom attitude sounds more like Trump everyday. Having Trump as president will be much more fun than Clinton as president. Plenty of fodder for your shit blog and your comment section will get even more ridiculous.

 
At 1:05 PM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

The Executive Apprentice will air once a week during Trump's presidency and one lucky citizen will be " fired " and sent to live in Canada. What could be more fun than that ??

 
At 1:18 PM, Blogger De_Bill said...

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H.L. Mencken

 
At 2:02 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Ellis,

Just a question regarding you recent post, what do 99% of Americans want?

 
At 2:19 PM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

Go back where you previously asked that ( Tom's prior piece ) and see that I answered you...

 
At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous at 12:47, you keep calling this a "shit blog" and yet you can't stay away? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You certainly aren't improving things around here. In fact, you make it worse every time you spit out one of your comments.

Please provide a link to your own blog. We'd love to read it.

 
At 3:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't me before idiot. You must be one of those jackasses who thinks you know what strangers political stances are.

 
At 3:38 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Clucky...

"Just a question regarding you recent post, what do 99% of Americans want?"


They want you to tell us what conservatives have done for the poor and middle class the last 45 years.

But I guess we will just have to live with the fact that you are too COWARDLY to admit the answer is...

Not a damn thing.

 
At 3:40 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

My candidate was Corey Booker, but I like Liz Warren as well.

But I'm voting BLUE regardless.

 
At 4:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Wasn't me before"


Why are you so full of anger? You sound like a frustrated person. Not happy at all.

Do you feel better visiting here and making your comments? Why don't you tell us what's wrong in your personal life; what's making you so angry and frustrated. Maybe you'll feel better.

 
At 4:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a dick, I like being a dick and will be one forever!

 
At 4:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous at 4:22 PM.

And you're a success.


But a very small one.

 
At 4:50 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "On May 17, 1968, Father Dan (who passed away this week), his brother, Father Phillip Berrigan, and seven others, entered a draft board in Catonsville, Maryland, seized the records of hundreds of young men (disproportionately African American), went out to the parking lot and set them aflame with homemade napalm."n

They're nine real heroes this country has produced -- not the fake chicken-hawks and war-hawks they want you to believe in. Heroes of today's era include people like Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden.

 
At 4:55 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Mozart1220 "But I'm voting BLUE regardless."

So you're a "party before country", type of guy?...meaning, you're part of the problem, and not the solution.

 
At 5:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hillary is Herbert Lom; Trump is Clouseau. he's doomed.

 
At 5:25 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "You know things have gotten bad when a corporate handmaiden like Hillary can be viewed as a reasonable alternative..."

Tom, I have not reached that point, and as you know, will not. At least there are other debates, offering alternate viewpoints, worthy of airtime. The corporate media will not make the offer because it's well known they will not bite the hand that feeds them.

If you're in the greater New York TV market (or Washington or Los Angeles) you should be able to watch this on television. Otherwise you'll have to stream from their website.

Tom, don't forget to watch Redacted Tonight this evening on RT. It's live at 8 p.m.

 
At 5:30 PM, Anonymous Confused Progressive said...

I'm with Jefferson's Guardian. I'm hoping Bernie runs as an independent or I just won't vote.

Anyone who votes for that congenital liar and greedy corporatist Hillary really has shit for brains.

I agree with JG that Mozart has shit for brains.

 
At 5:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for proving me correct about you, asshole.

 
At 5:45 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as "Confused Progressive"): "Anyone who votes for that congenital liar and greedy corporatist Hillary really has shit for brains."

But you'll be voting for Clinton. You already claimed you'd be voting for the most "conservative candidate"...


"I agree with JG that Mozart has shit for brains."

I never made that claim about Mozart, but the description certainly fits you.

 
At 5:50 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as "Anonymous"): "Thanks for proving me correct about you, asshole."

Staring in the mirror and talking to yourself again?

 
At 5:53 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Posting anonymously is a waste of time and pretty dumb also, pick a name so we know who you are when cursing you out.

 
At 6:00 PM, Anonymous Confused Progressive said...

I'm with JG.

Heroes of today's era include people like Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and Guccifer.

For those who don't Guccifer he is the Romanian hacker Marcel Lehel Lazar who hacked that corporatist Hillary's email server.

 
At 6:06 PM, Anonymous Michael said...

The FBI and Justice Department under this administration will do nothing to prosecute Hillary regarding her private email server. Like their boss they have no ethics or morals. Petraeus got nailed because he disagreed with Obama & Clinton. That greedy, old lying sack of shit Hillary Clinton should been indicted months ago.

 
At 6:12 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Ellis,

Thanks for the heads up..Based on what you said Americans want, Bernie should be shoo in .

 
At 6:24 PM, Anonymous Erika said...

Petraeus pled guilty to having documents in a drawer of his desk. According to some sources, they were used to assist in writing his memoirs in which no classified info was revealed. He was punished.

HRC put classified info into the "cloud", basically, or into a place (a server connected with the internet) that was vulnerable to hacking. She did not follow department procedures that she signed off on and was advised after setting up the server that she should not use it.

The liar's defense is that everyone else is lying and that this is all false, that nothing of what she did was prohibited and, in fact, was all approved.

Makes me sick that she is a candidate for the office of the President of the United States.

 
At 6:45 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More, theatrically using the pseudonyms of "James Hansen", "Confused Progressive", "Michael", "Erika", along with a host of others, is undoubtedly mocking the very person whose birthday is celebrated today, worldwide, as the father of psychoanalysis.

Sigmund, where are you when we need ya'?...

 
At 6:49 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

"Sigmund, where are you when we need ya'?..."

Sigmund, maybe you could analyze those mentally sick people who actually believe the US was part of bringing the towers down on 9/11 like Jefferson's Guardian.

 
At 7:17 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG

What's the latest on the Homeland Security Cop gone bad over in your neck of the woods' Maryland ?

 
At 7:25 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as "James Hansen", again): "...maybe you could analyze those mentally sick people who actually believe the US was part of bringing the towers down on 9/11 like Jefferson's Guardian."

Evidence, and suppressed or omitted testimony, indicates the three buildings were brought down by demolition. Sorry, but have to believe science over fantasy. Don't you?!

 
At 10:44 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

I am pretty sure most Conservatives know 9/11 was an inside job but they are so partisan that they just don't care. They have no answerers for Building 7 and the total lack of pictures and evidence of a debris field in Penn or at the Pentagon. Their side did it, so it is OK

Only a certain type of person can be a Conservative, they have an ability to disbelieve their own eyes, to discount and ignore science, common sense and overwhelming evidence if it counters their narrow world view.

I believe the Conservatives loyalty to ideas and ideals comforting to them hinder them from having any empathy to anything that is the "other"

Trying to convince a Conservative that any thing they believe is wrong is totally futile as they seem to confuse faith with political dogma. If they ever understand that there should be a separation from religious belief and political belief, then the Republican Party could collapse.

 
At 3:35 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

JG,

Voting Blue IS putting the country first, given what the GOP is offering up.

 
At 3:37 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie,

What's the latest on the GOP splintering like a rotted tree in a windstorm?

 
At 6:50 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Mozart1220: "Voting Blue IS putting the country first, given what the GOP is offering up."

So you've fallen into the "lesser of two evils" trap, which is right where they want you. That's not a good place to be -- for you, or the country.

 
At 6:58 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

London's new Muslim mayor must be making conservative's heads explode.

The moral of this story: Don't give into the politics of fear and despair. Londoners didn't.

 
At 8:00 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom, just in case you were blitzed by eight o'clock last evening and missed it, here's the full Redacted Tonight.

Couldn't find only the opening bit, but Lee Camp dissed Hillary Clinton again over her stealing of the New York primary in the opening segment. The tentacles of deceit and fraud run deep, and were put into place long ago. Camp offers up a good exposé of how elections are stolen in America today.

Enjoy!

 
At 8:27 AM, Anonymous Harry from Wallingford, CT said...

"I received an email yesterday from a woman named Jaime Brewer, who lives in Princeton, Indiana. She told me that she was moving back to her home town of Clay City, Illinois. She said that she was not meant to live in so broken a state."


lol on that one Tommy!

Hey Jaime in case you haven't heard, thanks to the "leaning forward" Progressives, Illinois is broke!

Progressives, especially women, love to spend but are mathematically and economically challenged. "Free Stuff" isn't free. Illinois is like the typical teenager who gets their first credit card. Spend, Spend, Spend and worry about the bill later. amirite?

https://igpa.uillinois.edu/content/illinois-faces-9-billion-annual-deficit-and-159-billion-ious

Illinois faces $9 billion annual deficit and $159 billion in IOUs

New analysis (PDF) by the Fiscal Futures Project finds no easy fix to Illinois’ chronic fiscal imbalance. Illinois now faces a $9 billion annual deficit that will grow to $14 billion by FY 2026.

“Years of pay-later budgeting has resulted in a massive imbalance between sustainable revenue and spending,” said Richard Dye, co-director of the Fiscal Futures Project. “Like a person in deep credit card debt, the state has been spending more than it can afford, and is covering the gap by issuing IOUs.” The report finds that the state’s IOUs now total $159 billion—more than twice the inflow of revenue in a single year. It’s a monumental problem that will require a long-term fiscal plan that includes tax increases, spending cuts, and economic growth.

The report, Apocalypse Now? The Consequences of Pay-Later Budgeting in Illinois, examines what it would take to balance the budget. The options are limited.

Thanks to the "leaning forward" progressives here in CT, we are also in a similar situation.

Hey liberals, thanks for bankrupting everything you touch!

 
At 9:42 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


James, they seem to confuse faith with political dogma.

Right wing ideology is identical to cult indoctrination. They believe only their political leaders, never science, never education, never journalism. They MUST demonize any dissent from their cult beliefs. Their god is the sacred and infallible mythical "free market". All must submit to it's rule by divine right of wealth

It is the Radical Right Bubble Cult of Con-servatism. No different from any other cult.

Trumpie Harry Chuck has it all figured out, "Hey liberals, thanks for bankrupting everything you touch!"

Which president took the US from a creditor nation to a debtor nation?

Reagan.

Bush added trillions to the debt, not to mention widespread death and spawning ISIS, for his war of choice for crony profit. IOKIYAR, amirite?

 
At 11:02 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Bad news for the cult of con-servatives from CNN:

The investigation is still ongoing, but so far investigators haven't found evidence to prove that Clinton willfully violated the law the U.S. officials say.

“Hang her anyway, this is Con-servative Amerika!” Amirite?

And more evidence that tells us Chuck is a liar:

In addition, this week, a notorious hacker awaiting trial claimed he infiltrated Clinton's server but law enforcement officials said the FBI investigation into Guccifer found no sign he got into the Clinton server according to law enforcement sources.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/05/politics/fbi-interviews-huma-abedin-clinton-aide/

Shocking.

Chuck the "Confused Progressive": Guccifer he is the Romanian hacker Marcel Lehel Lazar who hacked that corporatist Hillary's email server.

How about that "American ISIS video"?

Trumpie Chuckie cannot tell the truth. He can only parrot Republican propaganda.

Also shocking, amirite?



 
At 12:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a bunch of "Chicken Little's."
The sky will still be there whether Trump, or Clinton win.
Of course the idiot "Chicken Little's" job is to dishonestly scare people.

 
At 2:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


To Anonymous at 12:36 PM

And your job is to... what?

Be an asshole? Troll this blog under "anonymous" because of all your free time? Be a tiny dick?

Please provide a link to your intelligent and informative blog.

 
At 4:33 PM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

JG said:
"Evidence, and suppressed or omitted testimony, indicates the three buildings were brought down by demolition."

JG, how many people do you believe participated in the "demolition" of the three buildings?

One person, 10 people, 100 people?

Do you believe George W. Bush was part of the conspiracy? The Saudis? Oliver Stone?

Just trying to understand how a severely sick mind works.

Also, its good to see Amerika's smartest prison guard, who is part of the Prison Industrial Complex by the way that puts too many people away for far too long purely for profit, foaming at the mouth with his marxist rants.

 
At 4:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Progressivism is in deep trouble when the likes of Charles Blow and Charles Krugman tote the dirty waters of Hillary Clinton. As far adrift as the Republican party is, there are definite signs that the Democratic party is also in deep trouble. When the likes of Hillary Clinton is touted as a progressive who shares the values of Bernie Sanders, watch out.

 
At 4:58 PM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

AmeriKas smartest prison guard said:
"Which president took the US from a creditor nation to a debtor nation?"


The deficit accumulated in 233 years of American independence has been doubled in seven years under the "Messiah" who spouted "Hope and Change" with his paper thin resume during his campaigns, and the business growth rate last quarter (3 months!), after this steroid-bloated efflorescence of the money supply, was an anemic one quarter of one per cent.

But who cares about the low economic growth and sky high debt as long as there is more social justice, and men who dress up as women can use the woman's rest room! amirite?

 
At 5:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is your blog butt fucking fag boy anon?

 
At 5:18 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I bet Smokey Chuck would love to tell us the business growth rate in the last quarter of President George W. Bush, amirite?

"Bush, who?" LOL!

Now it's "Trump, who?"

Smokey Chuck follows his Party leaders' obsession with "men who dress up as women can use the woman's rest room". What's up Smokey Trumpie Chuck, ashamed of your small hands?

But has he ever objected to Republican leader Dennis Hastert using the young boys bathroom?

IOKIYAR, amirite?

So does the Party still have to obey the "Hastert Rule"??

LOL!!

The GOP (Gang of Perverts) make the "men who dress up as women" look normal and respectable. The Gang of Perverts are projecting their "Hastert urges" to non-threatening people who want to be left alone.


 
At 5:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/05/trip-like-he-do

 
At 6:46 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Golly, look at all the fear and hate coming from the extremely radical socialist posters like JG, Mozart and Davy!

If as Ellis said 99% of Americans want the things he claims they do, then Sander's (not the Colonel) is a shoo in for the White House.
The fact that he isn't must be due to DemocRAT party voter suppression, screwing with the voting machines and gerrymandering.
That's the only reason, as far left crazies NEVER lose an election unless the other side cheats(care to comment on that Hillary?)
What else could it be?

And when voters elect a conservative Christian to office it's because they didn't give in to the politics of fear and dispair.

 
At 6:53 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Now it's "Trump, who?"

Time to run some deflection and distraction. His leaders command it.

Isn't that right, Trumpie Chuckie?



 
At 7:04 PM, Anonymous Ellis D. said...

I just want everybody to know that I am a sock puppet for Tom Degan.

 
At 7:28 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

"But has he ever objected to Republican leader Dennis Hastert using the young boys bathroom?"

Dave, you really have a big boner for Dennis Hastert. amirite?

You believe non marxists think its ok for men to have sex with boys? I'm going to start wearing hip waders here because its really getting thick.

 
At 8:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...



And when voters elect a conservative Christian to office it's because they didn't give in to the politics of fear and dispair.


republicans had a chance to nominate a conservative christian but they rejected Ted Cruz, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, Ben Carson.... I guess republicans didn't want a conservative christian.

ChuckSoreLoser won't be talking much about Trump but he'll vote for him.

 
At 8:23 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Wow, record high hate and fear from Davy.
Flaying around like a rookie corrections officer assigned to his first cavity search.

I guess I hit a nerve when I pointed out that if Ellis is correct that 99% of Americans want what Sander's (not the Colonel) Is offering, it must be those cheating crooked lying DemocRATS stopping him from being our next President.

Davy's acting like he got a Twitter from former Congressman Wiener. What would Humma say?

 
At 8:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, what happened ChuckSoreLoser? Why didn't republican primary voters choose one of your christian conservatives? Why isn't Santorum or Huckabee your nominee?

 
At 8:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're glad you're feeling better, ChuckSoreLoser. You were sounded sick with fear when Cruz and Kasich dropped out. But you've calmed down.

But here's a hint: if you're going to invoke Huma Abedin, at least try to learn to spell her name.

And now please share with us some info on Trump's campaign staff...

Trump. You've heard of him, right?

 
At 10:00 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as "Smokey Lagumski"): "JG, how many people do you believe participated in the 'demolition' of the three buildings? One person, 10 people, 100 people?"

We'll never know until a criminal investigation and prosecution is conducted. What difference does it make?

How many do you think it took to demolish the three buildings with nano-thermite and cause them to free-fall, essentially unobstructed, into their own footprints? I'd guess that a small team of experts could get all three buildings ready within a couple of weeks. Don't you?


"Do you believe George W. Bush was part of the conspiracy?

No -- too stupid, and if he was, only after the fact. It's apparent he was Cheney's puppet. Cheney et al, made sure he was down in Florida, and out of the way, reading to kindergartners. Cheney sure didn't want Bush testifying to the 9/11 Commission without him by his side, did he? ;-) I wonder why nothing was allowed to be recorded, either electronically or written, from their testimony? Do you?


"The Saudis?"

Don't know, but doubt it. There are some within the Kingdom who will undoubtedly be the next group of patsies based upon the 28 pages that are supposed to be disclosed. My guess is they're feeling exposed and think they need a distraction.


"Oliver Stone?"

No, he already has a legitimate alibi.

 
At 12:36 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

I wonder what were in all the emails Hillary dumped?
I wonder who's going to pay for all the "free" stuff Ellis says 99% of Americans want?
I wonder when Anon is going to "grow a set "?
I wonder why Sanders (not the Colonel) is not the DemocRAT nominee since 99% of Americans want what he is selling?
I wonder why Mozart thinks his question is relevant?
I wonder why I liberals think they are the majority?

 
At 7:32 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: "I wonder what were in all the emails Hillary dumped?"

Probably how she's going to continue the special privileges to Wall Street after she gets into office...and invite all the chief executive officers to the Oval Office for some "cigar smoking".


"I wonder who's going to pay for all the "free" stuff Ellis says 99% of Americans want?"

The tax cheaters and tax evaders on Wall Street, in addition to the multinational corporations who export jobs overseas. This doesn't count the tax dollars saved when the Department of War's budget is cut by, coincidentally, 99%! It's amazing how there's always a way to fund humanity's needs when the psychopaths and sociopaths are taken out of the picture. Don't you agree?


"I wonder when Anon is going to 'grow a set '?"

Are you staring and talking to yourself in the mirror again?


"I wonder why Sanders (not the Colonel) is not the DemocRAT nominee since 99% of Americans want what he is selling?"

Because the electoral system is rigged. What isn't rigged, is fixed. Clinton's stealing the nomination. She and her cronies will steal the general election also. It's a certainty she'll get "elected" -- just as Dubya was in 2000. ;-)


"I wonder why Mozart thinks his question is relevant?"

Probably for the same reason I do. Why don't you answer him? Is it because you can't answer him? Or, is your silence the real answer?...meaning nothing.

Since you brought it up...why don't you answer my question(s)? I initially asked you two posts ago but you intentionally ignored me. Do you remember? Here, I'll ask again: Do you believe we live under a corporatocracy in the United States today? If not, why not?


"I wonder why I liberals think they are the majority?"

I don't understand your question. It doesn't make sense. Were you on Tom's blog while in a drunken stupor late last night? What were you drinking?...moonshine? Do you make it in the hills of Missouri? How many stills do you own?...or do you lease them? If you lease them, does that mean you don't "control" them?

 
At 9:07 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

"We'll never know until a criminal investigation and prosecution is conducted. What difference does it make?"

That sounds like something Hillary would say who has used her Wall Street donations to buy the unelected super delegates to steal the nomination from Bernie who is the peoples choice. Will you be putting a clothespin on your nose and pulling the lever for Hillary like Mozart?

How many do you think it took to demolish the three buildings with nano-thermite and cause them to free-fall, essentially unobstructed, into their own footprints?

I would like to see some computers models backing this demolition theory, kind of how James Hansen is using leaning forward technology for proving when the ice caps will melt due to man made global warming.

Mozart
What's the latest on the GOP splintering like a rotted tree in a windstorm?

At least the people voted against the establishment candidates and were able to chose their nominee for the GOP. Lots of laughs on the phoney Hillary and Bernie nomination process. Hillary had stolen the nomination from day 1 and the Democrat Party has made a mockery of democracy. But like JG said "What difference does it make?". You guys are like sheep and will follow whoever is your master.

 
At 9:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


ChuckSmokeySoreLoser asks the musical question "I wonder why liberals think they are the majority?"

Well... let's look at the man who won the republican nomination. The man who completely destroyed conservatives like Santorum, Walker, Huckabee. He's a republican liberal, at least according to t.Paine. And republican primary voters chose him by a HUGE margin.

here are Trump's top 10 liberal heresies:

He thinks affirmative action is okay.

He would fund Planned Parenthood except for abortion. (This is current federal policy, though Trump doesn't seem to know it.)

He supports a progressive income tax. He does not favor a flat tax.

He doesn't believe you should be able to fire someone just for being gay.

He doesn't want to cut Social Security or Medicare.

He's in favor of a ban on assault weapons.

He invited Bill and Hillary Clinton to his wedding.

He doesn't "fully" believe in supply-side economics.

He wants to "lead from behind" on Ukraine. Trump believes that Germany should take the lead on Ukraine.

He hates the Iran deal, but he wouldn't abrogate it after taking office.


So either republican primary voters have liberal leanings, or they're a bunch of easily-fooled rubes. Which is it, Mr. SoreChuckConservativeLoser?

 
At 9:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


"You guys are like sheep and will follow whoever is your master," says the person who defends Trump with the pathetic excuse "At least the people voted against the establishment candidates and were able to chose their nominee for the GOP."

Your transformation is complete, Chuck. Just as I predicted. Liberal Trump is your guy.

You're lucky, though... Neither Trump nor Hillary will take away your Social Security. You can buy all the diet soda you need with those government checks.

 
At 10:40 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

You guys are like sheep and will follow whoever is your master.

Standard Far Right projection again. Trumpie Chuckie Lagumski will vote for Trump, as he demonizes all dissent against his Party.

Just don't expect any rational discussion from him on HIS nominee. Won't happen. He's too busy following orders from the Party to lie, deflect and distract from his "populist Fuhrer".

Will Climate Expert Smokey Chuck care to deflect and distract from this? He may mock computer models that are way beyond his understanding, so what does he have to say about measurable facts?

The sea ice area for the Arctic shows near-record minimums since 2002. The maps below show the areas for September (shaded) relative to the median extent (purple line). The median extent is based on the period 1981-2010. The recent years represent a unique event because they show a year-to-year persistence of minimum ice extents.

http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/detect/ice-seaice.shtml

Damn that global conspiracy of evil climate scientists and their Socialist thermometers and ice measuring, amirite?


Better trust the oil companies instead, like all good true believers of the cult of conned-servatism.







 
At 10:51 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Yad yad yad. Such pot fueled dreamers.

 
At 10:59 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Chuckie, you said that you never thought of me when I stopped posting, "out of sight, out of mind"

I see you used my name three times when I was not here for about six weeks, I caught you in a lie fucken Chuck!

 
At 11:07 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Yad yad yad. Such pot fueled dreamers.

From the pickled alcoholic brain of an angry dry drunk.

Why won't he tell us about how great Trump is? LOL!!!!

 
At 11:34 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

From Friday’s Real Time with Bill Maher:

Ann Trumpie Coulter declared, “That’s gonna be a big hit with the American people — who are overwhelmingly voting for Trump.”

(Ya just gotta believe hard enough, so it MUST be true, amirite?)

Dan Savage countered, “No, the GOP base — which is overwhelmingly rubes, idiots, sexists, racists — are overwhelmingly voting for Trump.”

Why does this description remind me of a certain Trumpie here….?

 
At 11:44 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Davy,
Bad shift on the cell block?
Happy Mothers Day to yours.

JG.
Do you believe that the FBI will find Hillary has broken the law but because as you say, it's all rigged, she will not be indicted and in a court of law will not be found guilty, and will be our next President?
Or since you believe as you do, it's just as rigged if the FBI finds no wrong doing,many she is elected,mus the fix in then as well?

What events would have to take place that would make you think it wasn't rigged?

 
At 12:09 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, and not a word about Trump.

It's like I was psychic, but I'm not. They are just that simple to read. Very obedient to their authority figures.

Trumpie Chuckie will vote for Donald and obey his leaders in not mentioning him. Trumpie Chuckie's job is to smear, not to inform.

Still no word from the "Climate expert" on the record low levels of Arctic Ice?

Better blame Gore, amirite? Only the oil companies will tell us the truth, amirite?



 
At 12:18 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More (posing as Smokey Lagumski, again): "Will you be putting a clothespin on your nose and pulling the lever for Hillary like Mozart?"

What do you think?


"I would like to see some computers models backing this demolition theory..."

You have it all backwards! I'd like to see the computer models, that NIST will not release, that claim the three buildings collapsed due to fire alone. I wonder why they will not release their models for independent scrutiny? Do you think NIST has something to hide? ;-)

 
At 1:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


ChuckSoreSmokeyLoserMorre gives an intelligent reply: "Yad yad yad. Such pot fueled dreamers."

And that's it. He copypastes all sorts of claims, and then when his opinions are challenged and disputed, that's how he responds.

He's a comedian. He's not being serious here. He's putting on a show for us. He's like Andy Kaufman doing a Tony Clifton act.

 
At 5:05 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Davy,

Just a bit of news for you, I'm not one of your inmates. Unlike those poor souls, I do not have to respond to your pathic attempt to drag me into a meaningless dialogue with you. Unlike them, I have the freedom to talk about Hillary, and I will, no matter how much you hold your breath and stomp you feet in anger.
What did you get your Mom for Mothers Day? A taser?
You're right it's all about Hillary, she's your party's nominee. I find her totally without merit or skills to be president. She will be just another four years of Obama. But, Davy will vote for Corp Wall Street Hillary, like the good party hack that he is. Look how he's swinging wildly claiming all sorts of BS about me. Pure desperation. Watch before Nov he will come out in support of his master, Hillary.

Oh and Davy, both you and JG have said here you will not answer inane or worthless questions. I claim that right as well.

Anon, grow a set.

 
At 5:24 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie,
"I find her totally without merit or skills to be president. She will be just another four years of Obama."

Well, it will be another EIGHT years, and following Obama's direction would be FINE.

As for "growing a set", you first, you still are too scrared to answer one simple question.

 
At 5:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ChuckSoreLoserSmokey

Say "Trump"


You can do it.


"Trump"


See how easy?

Now start defending him. You're on the right track with your statement "At least the people voted against the establishment candidates and were able to chose their nominee for the GOP."

LOL. Cruz, Walker, Santorum.... I bet you're so glad they lost, right?

Say it again, Chuck. Louder this time: "Trump"

Now go out there and make america great again!

 
At 5:34 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Simply is what fits you Mozart.

Amazing how stupid liberal posters are to believe that there could only be one person opposed to their screwed up positions.
And to think they believe that 99% of Americans want what Sanders is selling!

 
At 5:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

99% of Americans certainly don't want what you're selling, ChuckSoreLoserSmokey.

What did republican primary voters want? Not a christian conservative like Santorum or Huckabee.

Nope.

The sneaky stealth liberal Trump stomped out every last one of your deep bench candidates.

What the heck is wrong with your republican primary voters?

Say the word, Chuck. What's the word?

TRUMP

 
At 6:59 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Anon, grow a set!

 
At 7:09 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Trumpie Chuckie declares, "I have the freedom to talk about Hillary".

So that's what they call distraction and deflection from Trump?

Lot's of "freedom" talk comin' outta Trumpie Chuckie, yesiree!

Chuckie has total "freedom" to follow the orders of his authoritarian leaders.




 
At 7:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ChuckSoreLoser... Make America Great Again! Are you proud of your republican't nominee?

RedState’s Ben Howe just nailed Donald Trump as the GOP’s new ‘sociopathic maniac’ nominee

Even with establishment Republicans coming out to save Donald Trump’s political bum, RedState’s Ben Howe refuses to cave.

 
At 7:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


ChuckSoreSmokeyLoser! Are you ready for your NEW DEAL?

Since Reagan’s inauguration (if not the mid-1930s), the Republican Party’s animating purpose has been to roll back the “slow-motion socialism” of the New Deal. Now the party has nominated a presidential candidate whose central economic proposal is an infrastructure plan that he explicitly likens to FDR’s programs.

“If we do what we have to do correctly, we can create the biggest economic boom in this country since the New Deal when our vast infrastructure was first put into place,” Trump writes in his campaign book, Crippled America. “It’s a no-brainer.”

Trump hasn't put together a specific proposal, but he has described it as a “trillion-dollar rebuilding plan,” which would be “one of the biggest projects this country has ever undertaken.” He also suggests that it would create 13 million jobs — a figure that originates in the Senate Budget Committee’s estimate of how many workers it would take to fully modernize the nation’s infrastructure. Bernie Sanders uses that 13 million number in his infrastructure plan, which is priced at $1 trillion over five years.

 
At 8:47 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Damn straight I have the freedom to talk about Hillary, get over it.

Grow a set Anon.

 
At 9:28 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

LOL, liberal know it all losers.
Yada yada yada

Grow a set Anon! If you can, ROFLMAO

 
At 9:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grow a conscience, SoreLoserChuck.

And then say the forbidden word:

T R U M P

The leader of your party.

 
At 9:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


It's Chuck's party and he'll cry if he wants to
Cry if he wants to
Cry if he wants to

You would cry too if it happened to you....

 
At 9:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


This is what Chuck said after Canadian Rafael Cruz dropped out of the race:


It is who does not believe that the power to tax the power to regulate is the power to control our economy.


Words of wisdom. They should be embroidered on a pillow.


It is who does not believe that the power to tax the power to regulate is the power to control our economy.


All the liberal losers here should take a moment and ponder this powerful statement.

 
At 10:14 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Poor Chuckie's ramblings of an angry, dry drunk, alcoholic, pickled brain will be even more monotonous, spewing of brain dead cult babble.

It looks like Trumpie Chuckie will be clucking "Hillary, Hillary, Hillary" non-stop for the next 8 years.

Trumpie Chuckie has taken an oath of silence on his party's nominee.

At least he left us with a couple bits to savor in contrast to his robotic "Yada, yada Hillary, Yada, yada Hillary, Yada, yada Hillary".

Chuck Morre posted at 2:03 AM March 10, 2016

We cannot admit that we liberals bear some of the blame for its emergence, for the frustration of the working-class millions, for their blighted cities and their downward spiraling lives. So much easier to scold them for their twisted racist souls, to close our eyes to the obvious reality of which Trumpism is just a crude and ugly expression: that neoliberalism has well and truly failed."
Thomas Frank


Chuck Morre 2:04 PM March 10, 2016

RE democrat party, simply put, the Democrat Party is lying when they claim to be a party of the poor, etc. Reality is they favor the 1%.


 
At 7:11 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Clucky, as soon as you can tell us what conservatives have done for the poor and middle class the last 45 years, let us know.

Until you answer that, why should we even consider a republican candidate?

What is your hero Trump going to do?

 
At 7:30 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Anonymous (at 9:46 PM): "This is what Chuck said after Canadian Rafael Cruz dropped out of the race: 'It is who does not believe that the power to tax the power to regulate is the power to control our economy.' Words of wisdom. They should be embroidered on a pillow."

Yes, very optimistic, uplifting and challenging words!...certainly destined to be categorized with Winston Churchill's famous "riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma" words of October 1939. So challenging, as a matter of fact, I don't know what the f**k he was saying...

(Yesterday I heard an "inside the Beltway" rumor that an anonymous donor from Missouri was getting ready to announce the bequeathing of a huge donation for the commissioning of a sculptured libertarian porcupine to be installed on the Washington Mall -- with those words inscribed! Is that a coincidence or what?!)

 
At 7:41 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"It is who does not believe that the power to tax the power to regulate is the power to control our economy."

You see, it's the Constitution that he and his Party hates. Government should be submissive to economic elites instead of having power to tax and regulate.

Yes, the far Right's opposition to the Constitution is the very definition of un-American.

No wonder he needs to call everyone else a commmie/nazi/socialist/prison guard.

LOL!!

 
At 7:45 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Anonymous (at 7:25 PM): "Since Reagan’s inauguration (if not the mid-1930s), the Republican Party’s animating purpose has been to roll back the 'slow-motion socialism' of the New Deal. Now the party has nominated a presidential candidate whose central economic proposal is an infrastructure plan that he explicitly likens to FDR’s programs."

I recall Chuck mentioning he'd vote for the "most conservative candidate".

So, Chuck, will you be wearing a Hillary for President button on your lapel today? Looks like you should be...

 
At 9:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE INTERRUPT THIS INCESSANT BICKERING TO BRING YOU AN ACTUAL COMMENT...


Seems like Republicans are "damned if they do, and damned if they don't".

If we like the Boehners and Ryans of the world, we are bought and sold political establishment sell-outs (which those guys are). If we like Trump (I don't particularly for several reasons), we are wrong, too. Could it be that we have realized that the party is broken and are grasping at ANYTHING that is outside the status quo? Trying to shake it up a bit? Seems to me the first step in trying to fix what's broken... I mean, isn't it a bit much to ask that Repubs go from complete brokenness to complete soundness in one fell swoop...? Seems like it would be a process, no?

More than you can say for the Dems at the moment. Seems to me maybe there's some jealousy that they're not getting their own party base to stand up and kick out the establishment for a change. Going to be the same old stuff we've had for 30 years with the woman who's likely going to be sitting in the Whitehouse. Hollow victory, Dems.

NOW, BACK TO YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED CONTINUAL REPETETIVE CACOPHONY...

 
At 9:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice spin job Anonymous at 9:27 AM. Did you make that up yourself?

You're trying desperately to turn shit into chocolate pudding, but the smell gives you away...

But you get an A+ for the spin job.

 
At 9:48 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Grow a set Anon, or have the required surgery. I'm sure all your fellow socialist will kick in the needed funds to pay for it
LOL

Azealia Banks "black folks have been voting DemocRAT and have shit"!

Illegal immigrants household get $5692 in welfare, $1261 MORE than American family's.
Thank you DemocRATs for helping the middle class, more LOL.

JG
Do you believe of the total votes cast in both Republican and DemocRAT primarys, that socialist Sanders (not the Col.) received 99% of them?
Ellis does.

 
At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some #NeverTrump types will hold firm, I think, but Principled Conservatism will leak a great many soldiers because many of them have no real reason to resist Trumpism -- the National Review guys are obliged by the terms of their sinecures to talk about policy, but do you think someone like Ace of Spades or the guys at Hot Air really give a shit about the Constitution as anything but a rhetorical weapon to use against the dirty hippies they hate? That being the case, what's stopping them from lining up with the ultimate dirty-hippie hater?

http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2016/05/new-village-voice-column-up.html

ChuckSoreLoserSmokey, do you actually read your bible or do you just use it for toilet paper?

It takes a brave man like you to post under stolen aliases. We've also noticed how rudely you attack every new commenter who shows up with their own opinion. No wonder they don't return. We notice lots of them are women. What does your baby jesus say about attacking women for expressing their opinions?

I'd tell you to grow a conscience but I suspect it's too late.

 
At 10:07 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trumpie Chuck adds another lie to his Trumpie "American ISIS video" lie. Illegal immigrants household get $5692 in welfare

 
At 10:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To answer questions of Anon 9:47...

I did "make it up" myself. Or, I expressed a thought. However you want to couch it... Your way sounds way more rude, so probably better fit for a blog comment section. Good form.

I wasn't trying to "spin" anything. To spin something, you have to be trying to achieve an outcome by using deceitful language. I'm not trying to achieve any outcome other than present a POV.

Also, I'm not trying "desperately" to do anything. I'm not desperate. I was stating an opinion. You apparently didn't like it. Okay...one x in the "didn't like" column... I'll live.

 
At 11:54 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Say Davy, if as you believe Trump is more liberal than Hillary does that mean you will be voting for him? Is your Union sending him money?


Jason Richwine, PhD, is an independent public policy analyst in Washington, D.C., and a contributing writer at National Review.

In September 2015, the Center for Immigration Studies published a landmark study of immigration and welfare use, showing that 51 percent of immigrant-headed households used at least one federal welfare program — cash, food, housing, or medical care — compared to 30 percent of native households. Following similar methodology, this new study examines the dollar cost of that welfare use.

The average household headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) costs taxpayers $6,234 in federal welfare benefits, which is 41 percent higher than the $4,431 received by the average native household.

The average immigrant household consumes 33 percent more cash welfare, 57 percent more food assistance, and 44 percent more Medicaid dollars than the average native household. Housing costs are about the same for both groups.


What Davy will do now is attempt to discredit Dr. Richwine, while he copy's and pastes quotes from that noted PhD ;) Dan Savage.
Typical!

Anon 9:54, grow a set, if you have what it takes.

 
At 12:05 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trumpie Chuck ignores another lie to add to his Trumpie "American ISIS video" lie. Illegal immigrants household get $5692 in welfare

Did Richwine make this claim? NO. Chuck did above. He is a known liar and Trump shill.

 
At 12:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave, you mean ChuckConfusedSoreLoser has been telling lies here on his blog? (thanks to Tom Degan for hosting it)

Did you know ChuckSoreConfusedLoser has refused all government help? It's true. He's had about six operations. He paid for every one of them out of his own pocket.


No need to "discredit" mr. richwine. He did a good enough job of that on his own:

He’s probably the first person ever to lose his job because of his Harvard PhD dissertation: Jason Richwine, let go by the Heritage Foundation on Friday. The problem: he co-authored their position paper opposing immigration reform; and then somebody discovered that his PhD thesis at Harvard’s Kennedy School was dedicated to the proposition that Hispanics have lower IQs than white people. Not even the Heritage Foundation wanted to go there—so after two days trying to answer embarrassing questions, he left quietly.

Dig deep enough into ChuckConfusedSoreLoser's opinions and you find some real ugly stuff.

 
At 12:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to thank you childish bickering asshole for proving me correct. Keep it up.

 
At 2:45 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Davy, you moron. Richwine wrote the study that I quoted from.

Typical pot head gender confused prison guard liberal.

Btw was was Savages degree in? Male anatomy?

Anon,
Grow a set .

 
At 2:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You quote from some rather questionable people, ChuckConfusedSoreLoser. Is he on your team of experts?

Even the heritage foundation found him unacceptable.

What does that say about you?

Answer the question under any alias you wish.

 
At 4:03 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trumpie,
I copied YOUR QUOTE, Asshole.

9:48 AM

Illegal immigrants household get $5692 in welfare, $1261 MORE than American family's.
Thank you DemocRATs for helping the middle class, more LOL.


Now show us where Richwine made that claim. Or not, because assholes don't give a shit about telling lies.

 
At 4:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Richwine made the argument that people of color are intellectually inferior.

These are the people ChuckConfusedSoreLoser cites as experts.

Richwine's mentor was the author of "The Bell Curve" aka "another giant in the field of racist junk science."

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/05/historys-greatest-martyr-speaks

 
At 5:04 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Being called an asshole by Davy is interesting since in his job I'm sure he gets to inspect many males on a regular basis

That's why he quotes Savage.

Anon, grow some male parts, Davy wants to "inspect" them just like his hero Savage.

 
At 5:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


ChuckSoreLoserConfused:

Nothing to say about our replies? Did you know anything about Richwine before you quoted him? Nothing to say about that? All you've got are "prison guard" jokes?

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is our Serious Conservative and his logic-based opinions and arguments.

Shine a light on him and his vile opinions and he scurries away like a cockroach, spitting homophobic insults behind him.

Do you agree with the "expert" you cited that people of color have lower IQs than "native" whites?"

Again, use any of your aliases if you wish to reply. They're all good. (Hint: my favorite is Sore Loser)

 
At 5:53 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

“Since in his job I'm sure he gets to inspect many males That's why he quotes Savage.” You mean Savage’s response to Trumpie Ann Coulter?

Chuckie’s the one obsessed with rectums. Asshole, indeed.

Savage nailed Chuckie, not me. “…the GOP base — which is overwhelmingly rubes, idiots, sexists, racists — are overwhelmingly voting for Trump.”

This fits Chuckie the bigot to a “T”, for Trumpie Chuckie.

When Chuckie says “I’m sure” about anything, he is going to be wrong. He knows nothing, and it shows. What does show is his fascination with rectal inspections. Apparently he sides with Criminal Pervert Republican Dennis Hastert over the staff supervising him. Amirite? Of course I’m right. This is how his cult operates.

This mentality makes Chuckie, the bathroom monitor, the real and true pervert, showing The Gang Of Perverts are projecting their "Hastert urges" to non-threatening people who want to be left alone.

Trumpie Chuckie is a loyal and obedient member of the Gang Of Perverts, who hate government employees so much they side with Hastert and other Republican criminal perverts.

Con-servative “Values”, amirite?

 
At 6:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Con-servative “Values”, amirite?


ChuckSmokeySoreLoser was defending Hastert not long ago. "Being accused is not the same as being guilty," he said. Which sounds pretty reasonable until he realize Hastert had already confessed to his misdeeds.

Of course, in Chuck's mind the correctional facility employees are the bad people, and the serial molester Hastert is the good guy.

And according to ChuckSoreSmokeyConfused, white supremacists are the experts on immigration.

Shine a light on ChuckSmokey and he scurries away like a cockroach, spitting homophobic insults behind him.



 
At 6:08 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckie meant "Being accused is not the same as being guilty... for Republicans only."

The new "Hastert Rule" doesn't apply to Blacks, liberals, or even Hillary. They are guilty because Chuckie says so.

Amirite?

Of course.

 
At 11:58 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Grade school theatrics by who else but Davy, eastern Michigan's expert chief rectum inspector.
Cavity search anyone? Savage and Anon are lining up now!
Guess Davy's voting for Trump as per our authority on just about everything claims he's more liberal than Hillary
Davy voting for a Republican. Must be climate change in hell, it's froze over.
And just as we thought Davy does hate our Constitution, in his America, you're guilty until proven innocent, if you're a Republican that it.
Right Fascist Davy?
Hey Anon, how's the sex change operation coming along? Got a set yet for Davy to "approve"?
Why the faux tears over the end of the GOP?
Who is Davy gonna blame for liberal failures with the GOP gone?
I know, it will be white heterosexual Christian males, the root of all evil in Davy's world. Just like the looney lefties who excuse the socialist failures in Cuba and Venezuela on America, he has yet to find a liberal plan he doesn't support.
Like transgender bathrooms for Anon.
What a cluster.

 
At 7:49 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

THe sad part is, that until Clucky can tell us what conservatives have done for the poor and middle class, EVERYTHING else he says is moot.

 
At 8:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...



Look at ChuckSoreConfusedLoser's 11::58 PM reply.

It's obvious he's mentally ill.

Let's hope he gets the help he needs.

 
At 8:48 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

The sad part is Mozart can't comprehend what what I've posted, typical mythical liberal, like Grow a set Anon, brain dead.

 
At 8:55 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "...as awful a candidate as she is, she's still light years preferable to anything the Republicans are bound to puke up - not only in this year - but in every year going back to 1956. You know things have gotten bad when a corporate handmaiden like Hillary can be viewed as a reasonable alternative..."

Tom, it looks like you're in the company of people such as "the professor", who claim we're witnessing "the making of an ignoramus". The GOP may very well be in the throes of its dying breath, but the scarier prospect is what's going to take its place. ISIS filled the vacuum in the debacle created and left behind by "the decider" in Iraq.

As predictable as fourth turning occurrences are, their outcomes are never certain. They can go either way. The cautionary tale, I guess, is watch what you wish for. Anyway, thought you'd enjoy:

"None of this should be taken as an excuse for Mr. Trump. He really is frighteningly uninformed; worse, he doesn’t appear to know what he doesn’t know. The point, instead, is that his blithe lack of knowledge largely follows from the know-nothing attitudes of the party he now leads.

Oh, and just for the record: No, it’s not the same on the other side of the aisle. You may dislike Hillary Clinton, you may disagree sharply with her policies, but she and the people around her do know their facts. Nobody has a monopoly on wisdom, but in this election, one party has largely cornered the market in raw ignorance.
"

 
At 9:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chuck, I'm being serious.

You sound mentally ill. Go back and re-read your posts. Are you currently seeing a therapist?

I suspect you're the one who's been sending Tom Degan's address out to various organizations. Are you also responsible for the "final straw" Tom mentions under "Leave Your Comment"? It wouldn't surprise me.

Interesting how you always try to take the high moral ground here. But you comment under the stolen, misspelled name of a real person who is too disgusted nowadays to bother commenting.

Do you suffer from an obsessive/compulsive disorder? No shame in that. What's shameful are the things you say here.
If you're not getting professional counseling, you should definitely look into it.

Get help.

 
At 9:05 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Of course, the Democratic Party -- if Sanders does what is expected -- will be forced to go through its own gnashing of teeth. I welcome the bedlam and disorganization of true democracy.

It'll be a great summer!

 
At 9:51 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trumpie Chuckie's booze pickled brain is totally unhinged. (He thinks pot damages a brain more than booze. Ignorance is bliss.)

Whatever happened to his, "Can't wait for November 2016"? LOL!

Must be filed away with his reasons for us to vote for Trump.

Come on Chuck, you can say it, "Trump for President. Hurry up November."

Whatsa matter, sport, GOP got your tongue?




 
At 5:14 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Maybe if Clucky posted something lucid it would help.

Remind us again, WHAT HAVE CONSERVATIVES DONE FOR THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS THE LAST 40 YEARS?

Funny how that question seems to be impossible for you to answer. You claim you already did.

REMIND US.

 
At 5:59 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Never has so much attention been bestowed on one so undeserving.

 
At 6:44 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Never has so much attention been bestowed on one so undeserving.

LOL! This is so true that it is funny.

Undeserving of respect and consideration indeed. However, besides the entertainment value he offers unwittingly, I see value in understanding the nature of the extreme Right Wing Authoritarian personality.

His words reflect the epitome of the drones of the far Right. He is a follower all the way.

He cannot engage in evidence-based fair dialogue. He cannot say, or think, what his Party doesn't tolerate. He cannot leave his propaganda bubble.

He has a job to do for his Party. Smearing and repeating lies are his job duties. It is his duty to not discuss Trump. It is also his duty to be loyal to Trump. He will absolutely vote for Trump and demonize, distort, deny, and deflect all dissent from his Party's ideology.

He reveals the lies and open hate, bigotry and racism that characterize the far Right. Through the extremist dogma and lies, he also sees us as enemies. He is indoctrinated to believe we want to destroy "his country" that he wants to "take back".

His anger and hate feed the fear that stimulates more anger and hate in his vicious circle of "Fight or flight" agitation. Authoritarian Con-servatives have measurably more active amygdalas in their brains.

Humanity has been eternally cursed by the over active reptilian brain of the authoritarian personality.





 
At 8:51 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Anon. 903
I'll believe you are serious when you post with a name and hyper link. Until then you are just s troll

Davy,

So we cantake by your lack,of response you are voting Trump as he is more liberal than Hillary?
Good move!

 
At 9:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


ChuckSoreLoser, I'm serious. Get help.

Go back and read what you've written on these threads. You know I'm right.

 
At 9:41 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Chuck is addicted to Liberals, he could spend his time on Red sites but he wants to hang around us because he knows we are superior. He hates us and is jealous of us but he wants to be like us.

He posts eight times a day for six years now so his obsession with Liberals is very strong, I think he is fucking weird.

 
At 12:55 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

James, projection much?

 
At 3:57 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Still waiting for an answer Cluckie?

Why so CHICKEN?

 
At 6:00 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Anonymous (at 9:03 AM & 9:05 PM), I've thought about what you've written (in your former comment) since I read it yesterday. I know some people in Justice who would investigate and prosecute, if the situation warrants it. There is a point of crossing the line, and when it does it's criminal.

The IP address(es) are attainable.

I agree with your latter comment. He's a real sicko.

 
At 6:30 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG " a real sicko" from the guy who believes 9/11 was an inside job, and supports a poster who hides behind anon. That's a classic if there ever was one.
You want my IP?

I've already posted mine here months ago at least three different times, not that doing so hasn't stopped you morons from thinking I'm the only conservative to post here. Odd how Anon who claims he's been following me for some time doesn't recall that. Wonder if anon and KG are the same person? Map indicates that may be.

Harry did the same thing, guess what mental midget, our IP's where not the same.

Typical socialist liberal censorship behavior. Don't like disagreement then you close it off.
Like the IRS and the Tea Party
Like Facebook and what's trending
Like socialist who are ok with a reduction in our freedom of speech
Like discrediting anyone who disagrees with you.

Odd how liberal talk radio, ( Air America, Ed Schultz show as examples) could not compete in the free market place of ideas. No different here.
Sounds to me like you and anon need a govt paid for "safe space"! Lol.

 
At 6:47 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG,

Have you forgotten when I didn't post here for two weeks how I am so much in the heads of the liberals who post here that they attributed every post they didn't agree with to me? Do you recall how the number of posts and hits received dropped until I started posting again?

Do you recall Davy saying I should vote for Clinton because he believed she was more conservative than Trump? Do you recall seeing his response to my asking if that meant he was going to vote Trump as he was in him mind, more liberal?
Do you recall Davy answering?

Do you recall my wishing all of the readers of this blog a happy and prosperous New Year and the hate thrown at me for doing so?

Why? Because the left hates anyone who disagrees with them and will do anything to shut them up

You are wrong,mi am right, socialism fails, just as liberalism has. If that were not true then the predicted death of the GOP would not cause any concern much less being the topic of a post. You see, just as socialism needs capitalism to get the stuff they give away, liberalism needs conservatism to put the blame on for their failues



 
At 7:37 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Just a reminder people!

My computer models are showing that both ice caps will be gone by the end of May 2016 due to man made global warming.

Make sure you buy a sturdy boat and lots of good pot before the ice caps melt!

 
At 9:21 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

This summer arctic sea ice will disappear!

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35975-arctic-sea-ice-could-disappear-this-summer#14630158514331&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=

The post at 7.37 was Fuchuk just fooling around.

 
At 7:08 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: "Wonder if anon and KG are the same person?"

Hmm...I wonder. Who's KG? Do you mean the KGB? Do you think possibly the CIA and KGB are the same? How 'bout ISIS and the CIA? Or...maybe al-Qaeda and the CIA?...or is al-Mōsād the same as al-Qaeda? Gee...the possibilities are endless. ;-)


Map indicates that may be."

The map?...the map!? Yeah, sure, whatever you want to fantasize. We're the same because the "map indicates that may be". [snicker]

 
At 8:31 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Hey Chuck, will you be bidding on the gun George Zimmerman is auctioning off that he killed Trayvon Martin with? Let us know if you win and post some pictures of the gun.

 
At 8:44 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

No Hanson, I have been saving my money for the "blue dress" with stains, saving because
a. It's not free, (where's Bernie?)
2. I didn't get my $2500 in healthcare savings.

Nice try.

 
At 10:08 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Not racist" Trumpie Chuckie's attempt at humorous deflection simply stated he couldn't afford the racist's murder weapon.

He has a deep "ammo-sexual" level of lust for the pistol, obviously. He'd probably love to take out Hillary and Obama in his sick militia/Nugent-fueled hate fantasies.

Hell, JG and I are probably in those same fantasies. "Liberal/commie/nazi/socialist" enemies of his extremist ideology are hated at the same level as Blacks and Muslims.

Con-servative "values", amirite?

 
At 1:57 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

 
At 2:01 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

What IS funny is how serious you take your self!

The things I do to keep you entertained.

How about that "American ISIS video", sport?

Surely you don't take yourself so seriously that you can't admit you were repeating a Trump lie?

LOL!!!

 
At 3:20 PM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Ignore the trolls, folks, and they'll go away. I'm constantly being admonished for not editing them. I get, on average, 150 comments on each piece I write on this blog, and I just have neither the time nor the inclination to monitor them. Just ignore these fools. They thrive on attention - and you're naively giving it to them. Ignore them. Just ignore them. Jeez!

 
At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


John Fugelsang ‏@JohnFugelsang May 6

Only Donald Trump is brilliant enough to attract female voters by blaming Hillary Clinton for her husband's adultery.

 
At 4:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Crap, Tom Degan, you deleted one of "Chuck's" comments?? (1:57PM)

I'm late to the party, what on EARTH could he have said to make you delete it? I mean, you didn't mind when he posted a link to a virus that infected Mozart's computer. You have no problem with him quoting "experts" who spout racist low IQ immigrant theories. You don't seem bothered when he hints that he knows the locations of other commenters. And you're unconcerned that all the folks who used to share their opinions on your blog now stay away because of one troll. Not an army of trolls you're too busy to deal with. One troll One mentally-disturbed commenter who spreads your personal info, posts under multiple aliases to agree with himself and harasses other commenters.

 
At 5:16 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Anon,
Ahh, you poor baby. Be a grown up and get a name!

Just like I said Tom,

"Do you recall my wishing all of the readers of this blog a happy and prosperous New Year and the hate thrown at me for doing so?

Why? Because the left hates (and is terrified of) anyone who disagrees with them and will do anything to shut them up."

Just as I predicated, next this will be a "safe blog" for the overly sensitive liberals who can not compete in the free market place of ideas.

Liberal censorship...

 
At 5:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Chuck" go back and read what you've written here. Would you feel comfortable sharing it with a therapist?

I said before, there's no shame in suffering from a obsessive-compulsive disorder. Help is available. Counseling, medication. But you need to take that first step.

Your idea of a free market place of ideas is quoting disgraced racist "experts" and hurling abuse at anyone new who comes in to express an opinion?

Are you already on medication? Are you seeing a psychotherapist? Have you discussed some of your darker impulses, like sharing Tom Degan's personal address with organizations he's not interested in?

If you get professional help you'll be a happier person. And then maybe you'll have better control over the impulses that seem to control your life.

I'm serious. Let us know how you're doing.

 
At 6:18 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

"Do you recall my wishing all of the readers of this blog a happy and prosperous New Year and the hate thrown at me for doing so?

I remember that, you were insulting every body on this site, stole my name and then wished everybody happy new year. When Mozart was not happy after you insulted him several times you told him to lighten up. Your new year wishes were the hight of condescending sarcasm, in other words you were a fucking asshole and then you wonder why we did not fall all over you in gratitude for your insincere holiday wishes.

 
At 8:32 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Cluckie, instead of WHINING why don;t you answer my question?

WHAT HAVE CONSERVATIVES DONE FOR THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS THE LAST 40 YEARS?

You'd think it would be easy.

 
At 9:04 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Hansen, do you remember me being called a racist, a nazi, a drunk, a sexual pervert, pro slavery, KKK member, just to name a few, AFTER I POSTED something counter to Davy's political views?
I do and if you what to real be honest, you will remembrance my calling you MR Hansen as we tried to have an adult conversation. Who ended that? You did when I refused to agree with your position.
Do you remember Davy using ad hominems to reply to a position of mine instead of dealing with the substance of what posted. Do you recall my pointing that out along with alone with the use of Rule #5? Do you recall how Davy squealed about my pointing that out?
Do you remember my posting something wasn't free if someone else paid for it? Do you recall what I was called for pointing that out?
Do you remember what I was called by liberals for posting the facts from the Obama Justice Dept about black crime and murder rate?

So excuse me to hell if I no longer want to play nice, I've been taught by the liberals who post here that in their world, the truth isn't important, it's how cool you sound when you are slamming a conservative that's inportant. And look what happened when I pointed that out.

For all the wringing of hands about my running off new liberal posters, have you ever taken the time to count the number of conservatives who have stopped posting here? Do you recall T Paines post to both Davy and Mozart? Find it and read it some time.

Tom says he gets 150 posts per article. Great for him. Do you recall the number of posts I've made thanking Tom for allowing freedom of speech on his blog? I guess that freedom only extends to posters with "Enlighten" thinking.

Do you remember that you have blasted Mozart twice? Do you remember his response to my asking him if the tornados which hit his area had effected me?

Does it piss you off when I make a comment about Davy's job and how it includes the inspection of human cavitys? This after he calls me, like you just have, an asshole? Do you expect me to just take it like a good conservative used to.

Here's something you and other liberals had better get used to. Your politics are in the minority, period. If it were not so, as Ellis proclaimed, Bernie would be in the Oval Office right now! The days of liberals dishing it out not and not expecting to get it back are over.
Liberalism/socialism is a failure.
Ask Greece
Ask Venezuela
Ask Cuba
Ask any county of the former Union of Soviet Socalist Republic.
Ask the 120 million murdered under Socialst rule in the last century.

Do you remember JG's answer to my question if America was to blame for all the problems in the world?
Do you remember Mozarts answer to the question of how he was going to use the $2500 a yr in health care costs?
Do you recall his answer to my question if his premiums under Obama care had gone up?


Do you recall my ever posting Toms address? Or anything personal about Tom.

Me thinks you protest way to much.

 
At 9:06 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Had effected "him".

 
At 10:50 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

You really enjoy painting your self as the victim here. But that is all bullshit because if you really felt that way you would just stop posting. Over the years you are by far the one who has insulted people the most here. I just got fed up with it and starting coming back at you.

You notice I have always spoken to Harley and T. Paine with respect because they deserve it.
I think you are off mentally and a waste of time, I tried to create a bond with you but it was useless.

If my angry exchanges with you were responsible in any way for Harley or T.Paine leaving here than that is really a piety. It is possible you also chased them away, maybe they will tell us someday.

 
At 1:26 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

You really don't understand how wrong you are, do you? Liberals want me to compromise, I refuse to do so. Liberals are wrong on abortion, on transgender "rights".

I'm not the victim, the American people are the victims of the failed promises made by liberalism.
The insults and the stealing of your name that you claim I did is the source of your angry. I can't count the times posts have been made that were rude and I was accused of making them. When I was the hospital for a week I could not post. When I returned I was amazed at the number of vile things said that I was accused of saying.
While I've been on vacation the same thing has happened. Every conservative post, ever theft of your name, ever vile post I was credited with doing.

You feel I'm off because I ask questions, make observations, and share events that go counter to the beliefs of liberals. Have you ever asked yourself if it might be YOU that is off? P
Are you by claiming I'm a victim by saying the events I listed in my last post didn't happen? I noticed you haven't made that claim, but instead are saying I had it coming. How many times was I labeled a fascist before I "insulted" posters here by calling them liberal radical left wing socialists? Does being called a socialist upset you Hansen? Does it piss you off that socialism would have nothing to redistribute if it were not for capitalism? I ask because these are some of the "vile" things I've asked.

Do you recall the number of times conservatism has been accused as the reason for a mass shooting. But silence when it turns out the shooter was a liberal or a radicalized Muslim. Did you read here the insulting post asking me if I was going to buy the gun that killed T. Martin?

It is liberals who want to appear as the victim.

 
At 3:55 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: "Do you remember JG's answer to my question if America was to blame for all the problems in the world?"

I do. You stated an opinion: "...but doing so will not change the hard cold truth that the world is a very dangerous place."

and I countered with this: "Only because United States foreign policy has made it that way..."


"You really don't understand how wrong you are, do you? Liberals want me to compromise, I refuse to do so. Liberals are wrong on abortion, on transgender 'rights'."

Liberals are not wrong for standing up for the truth -- and for the facts. Nobody's asking for compromise from you, only an understanding of the facts. Liberals hate when conservatives misrepresent the facts, so stop doing it.

As far a abortion, if you don't like it, don't get one. It's your choice. Hey, by the way, did you know that crime rates dropped dramatically about 18 to 20 years after Roe v. Wade became the law of the land. Do you know why? Think about it.

The transgender issue thing is a distraction by the mainstream media. It'll pass.

 
At 9:19 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

JG
" did you know that crime rates dropped dramatically about 18 to 20 years after Roe v. Wade became the law of the land. Do you know why?"


No I don't know why, maybe you could enlighten us.

How very Margaret Sanger of you.

"We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring."

"Give dysgenic groups [people with “bad genes”] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."

"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

Margaret Sanger

 
At 10:26 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckie is now in full cry baby mode. (There’s your ad hominem, accurate as it may be.)

posting the facts from the Obama Justice Dept about black crime and murder rate? (Incessantly as I recall. Just like a Klansman would gleefully repeat such information with “white pride” in support of his “White victimhood”.)

I've been taught by the liberals who post here that in their world, the truth isn't important (This from a Party shill who defends oil company PR as he rejects science?? LOL!! And how about that American ISIS video? Yes, it is more than clear who doesn’t think the truth is important. He can only spout Party approved propaganda. Period.)

I'm not the victim, the American people are the victims of the failed promises made by liberalism. (Oh, the terrible suffering caused by food stamps, unemployment benefits, and health care for the poor. Woe is Cry Baby Chuckie. “Not the victim”, but one of the American people who are the victims. Make any sense? Doesn’t have to does it? )

Does it piss you off when I make a comment about Davy's job and how it includes the inspection of human cavitys? This after he calls me, like you just have, an asshole? (He got it backwards. “inspection of human cavitys” has been his on-going attempt at demeaning an entire profession, largely conservative members at that, because he falsely believes it is my job This has been Chuck’s’ fantasy for years. And he whines about this asshole behavior being called for what it is? IOKIYAR, amirite?

The days of liberals dishing it out not and not expecting to get it back are over. (Projection. Chuckie started out playing his famous “red card” BIG LIE accusing liberals of being commies, Nazis, socialists etc. THAT is when I accurately pointed his demonizing tactics were patterned after the fascists of last century Europe. )

Your politics are in the minority, period. (Pure Bullshit. MOST Americans reject the corporate personhood, de-regulation, and tax cuts for the rich that is the core of the Republican Agenda. MOST Americans support abortion rights. MOST Americans want environmental regulations and Constitutional regulation of commerce and taxes for the general welfare. Chuck has no factual foundation to support his statement. He is either ignorant, a liar, or both. This is not ad hominem, but the bottom line.)

His willful ignorance and hate are his choices. Boo hoo, Chuckie.

==
So what does Chuckie the “man of truth” do?

He is demonizing Sanger with out of context quotes, as if she was advocating genocide.

The sterilization Sanger recommended was not for the races she felt were inferior, but rather sterilization and segregation be applied to those with incurable, hereditary disabilities. In her book The Pivot of Civilization, she advocated coercion to prevent the "undeniably feeble-minded" from procreating.

“We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” was intended to keep idiots like Chuck from saying just that.

How very Goebbels of him.

 
At 12:24 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Davy,
"(Incessantly as I recall. Just like a Klansman would gleefully repeat such information with “white pride” in support of his “White victimhood”.) So typical of you to cast something you are unhappy with to the KKK. Incessantly like your "blame the black" guy quote? Playing the race card much?

"He is demonizing Sanger with out of context quotes, as if she was advocating genocide."

That's what she said and pray wouldst thou tell me, how should those quotes be taken? What was she advocating? As I've said before, there isn't a left wing liberal socialist cause or position you disagree with Davy. If a white Conservative today ever said 1/10th if what Sanger said, what would be the media and the liberals reaction? I'd like an answer to that from anyone.

There you go again comparing me to a Nazi cause I said something that was counter to your core beliefs. I noticed you didn't comment on Sanger's quote about the use of black ministers. Why is that? She was pushing for population control of the Chinese?

You reading this Hansen? Do you understand how by my simply posting quotes from the founder of Planned Parenthood, I am called Goebbels? That is what I mean when I say liberalism cannot compete in the free market place of ideas. All opposition must be squashed. T. Paine asked Davy to stop with his vile behavior towards me. And yes if I didn't like it, I have the freedom to stop posting here. But I choose not to because the facts don't support the socialist claims and agenda.

99% of American's do not agree with the left wing, socialist agenda, and Davy's attempt to frame it as just an issue of corporate personhood, de-regulation, and tax cuts for the rich is a false canard. If this were not true, Sanders would be in the White House! Trump wants to RAISE taxes on the rich! You can not dispute these facts!

The facts show that the top 10% of earners already pay over 40% of income taxes collected. Another Federal record tax collection just reported, and yet there isn't enough money for the liberals to spend? And with the military being the smallest in in 40 years, saying the spending there is too high is another false canard.

Shouldn't a political party pride itself in the number of people who, because of it's economic policy's, no longer need government assistance because they are employed in the private sector, not the growing number of people who because of their policy's still require it?

 
At 1:20 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

“Just like a Klansman would gleefully repeat such information” was an accurate observation. It was repeated ad naseum.

how should those quotes be taken?

In context, of course. But to the enemies of truth, context must be ignored. Copy and pasting of out of context words is the rule. Don’t even pretend you made any attempt to understand differently.

There you go again comparing me to a Nazi cause I said something that was counter to your core beliefs.

WRONG. Demonizing was and is a Nazi/fascist tactic. You have no idea of my “core beliefs”. You cannot distinguish communism from socialism or fascism.

I noticed you didn't comment on Sanger's quote about the use of black ministers.

Proving you don’t notice much anyway. Deliberately so.

99% of American's do not agree with the left wing, socialist agenda

WRONG again. Not a shred of evidence is offered to support this false belief. Obama won TWICE, and he isn’t even a socialist. He is a corporatist in agreement with Republicans on trade.

We know that Bernie Sanders’ “radical left wing progressive views”, as portrayed by corporate media, are in fact mainstream views.

How Mainstream is Bernie Sanders?

MOST Americans agree with Bernie Sanders on all his major policy positions, but the corporate media doesn’t want us to know this. Their corporate sponsors prefer to label Bernie as an outsider on the fringe.

Most Americans agree with Bernie on wealth distribution, Citizens United, education, student debt, climate change, Constitutional regulation of commerce and general welfare, etc.

This is incomprehensible to the fanatics of the far Right

Shouldn't a political party pride itself in the number of people who, because of it's economic policy's, no longer need government assistance… de-regulation, and tax cuts for the rich is a false canard

You mean the party that ushered in the Great Bush Recession and financial collapse? The party of tax cuts for the rich and deregulation? What is wrong with your head? Seriously.

 
At 1:23 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Now about that Trump and Trumpie Chuckie lie about an "American ISIS propaganda video".

Got anything to add to that lie, "Mr. Truth"?

Crickets.

Yeah, We thought so.

 
At 1:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
You wish this was the end of the GOP, but you have had other delusional thinking before. They are probably hoping the same about you, but you are correct and they are nuts. Laughable!

 
At 3:21 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Right Wing Republican “Free Republic” playing the scary Red Card, sounding like the “Fascist Republic”:

Our overriding mission on Free Republic is to preserve, protect and defend (conserve) God, family, country--and all that that entails (refer to the Declaration, Constitution, and our Judeo-Christian American heritage for details).

Our most immediate task we must undertake at this time is keep corrupt, godless, treasonous, America-hating communists like Hillary Clinton out of power.

Our very survival as a free nation depends upon it.

==
They weren’t the first to say these things.

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."
-- Adolph Hitler,
"My New World Order,"
Proclamation to the German Nation
Berlin, February 1, 1933

“The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes – danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive.”

==

Peas in a pod.

 
At 4:58 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: "No I don't know why, maybe you could enlighten us."

You're unenlightened, and from what I've read, not capable of enlightenment. You're a strict conservative living in the 2010s while thinking like its the 1950s.

As I said previously, abortion is a woman's right and a woman's choice. Period. Although not always personally in agreement with why a person would want one, I'd always defend a woman's right to seek one. It's unfortunate abortion wasn't legal when your mother was conceived with you, because possibly we wouldn't be having this ridiculous and mundane discussion. ;-)

You're clueless and demagogic. Two very unhealthy characteristics.

 
At 7:42 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Chuck,

I have to agree with you that Dave goes overboard with painting you as a NAZI or KKK member etc. when your beliefs don't align with his beliefs of excessive nanny state socialism.

Saul Alinsky would want to shake his hand.

I think his anger is deeply rooted in the fact that he is an underachiever. After all, how many intellectuals are prison guards?

Dave is part of the Prison Industrial Complex where profit and the pursuit of manna comes first. Dave won't comment on the fact that there are many black men serving exessive sentences for the crimes they have committed. The unfortunate circumstances of these people provide part of Dave's paycheck.

Like I said before, at times I want to put on some hip waders when Dave goes overboard on his view of marxism and his use of Saul Alinsky tactics.

God bless you for challenging people like Dave Dubya when he starts foaming at the mouth at how wonderful marxism/socialim is and his warped view of the founder's "General Welfare" clause. The founders would be rolling over in their graves with Dave's warped view of the "General Welfare" clause.

 
At 8:05 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

...And in the center ring, ladies and gentlemen, Chuckie James rides again!

 
At 8:19 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Chuck, now you know what I mean about being off?

 
At 12:18 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Well Hansen, I didn't make the post at 7:42.
That is why I and T. Paine have asked you to please post using a name with a hyper link.
As far as you know, your friend Anon may have posted it stealing your name, or maybe JG.
But I didn't.

 
At 7:08 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

From Dave's linked article, "How Mainstream is Bernie Sanders?":

"But Sanders’s positions are quite mainstream from the point of view of the stances of the American public in general. Of course, the 1%, for whom and by whom most mainstream media report, are appalled and would like to depict him as an outlier."

Well, maybe Ellis was technically off with his opinion that 99% of Americans support Bernie Sanders, but this article sure confirms that a majority are. Wow!


"Sanders is scathing on the increasing wealth gap, whereby the rich have scooped up most of the increase in our national wealth in the past twenty years. The average wage of the average worker in real terms is only a little better than in 1970; the poor are actually poorer; but the wealth of the top earners has increased several times over."

Wow! Did you know this?


"Some 63% of Americans agree that the current distribution of wealth is unfair. And in a Gallup poll done earlier this month, a majority, 52%, think that government taxation on the rich should be used to reduce the wealth gap. This percentage is historically high, having been only 45% in 1998. But there seems to be a shift going on, because Gallup got the 52% proportion in answer to the question on taxing the rich both in April and again in May of this year."

Wow! Did you see that? A majority of Americans think that the government should tax the rich more! I agree!


"Bernie Sanders’ position is that of a majority of Americans in the most recent polling!"

Wow! Wow! Wow!


"Even Socialism is coming up in the world. Some 36% of Millennial youth (born in the 1980s and 1990s) have a favorable view of Socialism, compared to 26% of the general population."

Those Millennials! Isn't that great! Socialism will be making a comeback! Incredible! Isn't it! I wonder if it's because they see capitalism doesn't work, and that it's broken beyond repair and corruption rules the day?


"Sanders wants to get big money out of politics."

Great idea! Does anyone reading this blog disagree with Sanders on this very important point? Anyone?

TO BE CONTINUED...

 
At 7:10 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

More from "How Mainstream is Bernie Sanders?"...

"A majority of Americans oppose the Supreme Court 'Citizens United' ruling, one of a number of such rulings that have increased the ability of the super-wealthy to influence politics. A good half of Americans support federally financed political campaigns so as to level the playing field."

A majority of Americans oppose Citizens United? Wow! Wow! Wow!


"On this issue, Bernie Sanders is the most mainstream of all the candidates. The others are in a part of the political spectrum that by the polling represents a tiny lunatic fringe, in opposing significant campaign finance reform."

Bernie's mainstream, again! Wow!


"Bernie Sanders’s hair is on fire about the dangers of global warming and the need to take practical steps to combat it. According to a very recent Yale/Gallup poll, Some 71% of Americans believe global warming is occurring, and 57% are sure that human activity (emitting greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide) is causing it, while another 12 percent think the warming is at least partly human-caused. That’s 69% who blame human beings wholly or in part."

Did you see that?! A majority of Americans believe global warming is due to human activities!


"50% are very or somewhat worried about global warming, while another 28% is at least a little worried. About 48% believe that global warming is either already having a bad effect on people or that it will do so in the next decade. Even among Republicans, 48% say that they are more likely to vote for a candidate who wants to fight climate change."

Look at that! Holy hot beaches, Batman, close to half of Republicans are in favor of fighting global warming! Nearly half! That's incredible!

Gee, Ellis might have been frustratingly exaggerating his claim that 99% of Americans favor the initiatives that Bernie Sanders is bringing to the table during his campaign, but he was spot on the money when it comes to the fact that his ideas resonate with most Americans.

Thank you, Dave Dubya, for the link.

 
At 7:47 AM, Anonymous Harry from Wallingford, CT said...

50% are very or somewhat worried about global warming, while another 28% is at least a little worried. About 48% believe that global warming is either already having a bad effect on people or that it will do so in the next decade. Even among Republicans, 48% say that they are more likely to vote for a candidate who wants to fight climate change."



How come its always ten years from now with the global warming Chicken Littles with their panties in a bunch?

How about the following Truth about an Inconvenient Prediction?

In January, 2006 — when promoting his Oscar-winning "documentary", An Inconvenient Truth — Al Gore declared that unless we took “drastic measures” to reduce greenhouse gasses, the world would reach a “point of no return” in a mere ten years.

He called it a “true planetary emergency.” Well, the ten years have passed, we’re still here, and the climate activists have postponed the apocalypse. Again.

Does anybody know what Al's next prediction is about when the polar ice caps will melt?

Thanks for the laughs Al with your leaning forward settled science, you should be a clown at the circus.

 
At 7:54 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

You're welcome, JG.

We know Chuck won't respond to proof that he is wrong, despite his promise, "When you present facts I will dispute them". (That must be exhausting. No wonder it's time for the name change game. Better bring up prison guards too, for another needed distraction, amirite?)

99% of American's do not agree with the left wing, socialist agenda

This will be Trumpie Chuckie's chosen fabricated reality, along with "American ISIS propaganda videos" and every other lie, deception, deflection and denial his Party and masters dictate.

Imagine the comfort and peace in never having to think for ones self.

Exactly. Like. A. Cult.

 
At 8:06 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Harry Chuck wants information? No, not really. Otherwise he would read this and thank me for telling some truth:

Date: April 21, 2016
Source: Alfred Wegener Institute, Helmholtz Centre for Polar and Marine Research
Summary: Sea ice physicists are anticipating that the sea ice cover in the Arctic Ocean this summer may shrink to the record low of 2012.

The scientists made this projection after evaluating current satellite data about the thickness of the ice cover.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160421085209.htm


Inconvenient Prediction? Hell, inconvenient facts, and those who note them, are the enemies of the Radical Right Bubble Cult.

 
At 9:08 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Upchuck More: (posing, once again, as Harry from Wallingford, CT): "How come its always ten years from now with the global warming Chicken Littles with their panties in a bunch?"

and...

Dave Dubya: "Summary: Sea ice physicists are anticipating that the sea ice cover in the Arctic Ocean this summer may shrink to the record low of 2012. The scientists made this projection after evaluating current satellite data about the thickness of the ice cover."

Wow! Looks like Dave trumped Upchuck again! Wow! Double wow!!

(And special acknowledgment to Al Gore for pointing out the dangers of human-induced global heating and making it known to the greater population.)

 
At 10:34 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

This has turned into a group therapy and tutorial site for Chucks benefit, and he does not pay for it. Socialism in action provided by the good hearted Liberals on this site!

 
At 11:19 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Even the Pentagon won't buy the Greedy Oily Plutocrats lies on climate change and their shrill whining about a global conspiracy of evil climate scientists.

The Pentagon takes climate change science seriously. The GOP sides with oil company PR. Some "patriotism", amirite?

How's that for crony greed over the public good, and party over country?

Why do con-servatives choose protecting and expanding private wealth over the health, safety and security of our country?

Hint. They are a brainwashed cult.

 

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