Wednesday, January 14, 2015

Here Comes the 114th

"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."

Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

If you're still naive enough, after all the evidence to the contrary that has been assaulting your senses for decades, to perceive the GOP as "the party of moral values" you might want to pass this one by. You're beyond hope.

I'm looking forward to the next two years. Let's face some harsh realities, people: There has never been, in the lifetime of anyone reading this, an era as delightfully weird as the one we are living through now. And the beautiful thing to contemplate is the fact that it's going to get even weirder as the months transpire. In November of 2014, the American people put back in power the very party that created the mess that Barack Obama has spent six years trying to dig us out of. In spite of the mountains of obstruction he's had to deal with that has been hurled at him by the disloyal opposition (Let's stop kidding ourselves about their motives) he's been fairly successful given the sabotage tossed his way by the loonies in the extreme right wing. You've got to admire his fortitude. Let's hear it for the dude.   

And now the assault begins. This year marks the eightieth anniversary of Social Security being made the law of the land. Since Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal made it possible in 1935, it has been a point of nasty contention for the Republicans. Americans who tend to vote with that party have long been in denial as to what the GOP would like to do with the program that has for eight decades saved hundreds of millions of senior citizens from dying in poverty. Between now and Election Day 2016, a lot of people in this country are going to wake up and face the nightmare they never imagined. And merely voting them out next time round won't be quite as easy as it has been in election cycles past. Count on them passing even more restrictive voter suppression laws between now and then. Remember, you read it here. This is going to be quite interesting.

As bad as the 113th Congress was (and they were one of the least productive congresses in the history of this doomed country) that body was only the overture for what is yet to come with the 114th. As Al Jolson liked to say back in his day, "Folks, you ain't seen nothin' yet!"  As worthless and impotent as the Democrats have become, the Republicans are beyond a molecule of redemption. And with the puppet of the one percent, Mitch McConnell, now installed as the senate majority leader, you can count on the disintegration of America's infrastructure going into overdrive. We have been living for some time in a plutocratic dictatorship. The process has evolved at such a snail's pace that most Americans have not noticed it. They'll notice it by Election Day 2016. You'd better believe they will.  

Here's a little piece of handy trivia that I'm sure will amuse and delight you: As of this week, there are more Republican representatives in Washington than at any time since 1928. Isn't that lovely?

I usually end these things by saying words to the effect of, "But here's the good news". Don't ever take me seriously when I say that, it's only false optimism. The "good news" - so to speak - is usually the promise of barrels of unintentional laughs provided by the unintentional comedians of both parties. And while this political train wreck promises to be screamingly funny at a certain level, there is no silver lining behind this depressingly dark cloud. We might as well come face-to-face with the awful truth: The United States of America is skipping merrily into oblivion.  That's a really polite way of saying, "we're screwed", isn't it? I think so!

The bottom line is that, like the fall of the Roam empire, none of this will be boring. That's about the only positive thing I can think of at the moment. Ain't politics a riot?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY 

I couldn't leave you on such a depressing note.

Glenn Miller

Hello, Lola!
by the Mound City Blue Blowers

The personnel on this 1928 recording are: Coleman Hawkins, Charles "Pee Wee" Russel, Glenn Miller, William "Red" McKenzie, and Jack Bland. It's nice to know that this was an integrated ensemble - such a rare thing in the twenties.

Listen to 24-year-old Glenn Miller's incredible trombone solo! In the sixteen years of life he had left, he never swung like this again. This is an amazing record!


At 11:16 AM, Blogger Yellowstone said...

Newt's "Contract With America" is still in effect! The primary objective is to do no harm to the GOP party’s chances to establish unified control of Washington in January 2017. And, at the same time, do as little as possible!

At 11:59 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Jimmy Carter: Cut Obama Some Slack for Not Going To Paris, He Just Came Back From Vacation…

Alternate headline: Second worst president in history tells people to stop criticizing the worst president in history.

At 2:06 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sore Loser once again disregards the years 2000-2008. Carter didn't have to cheat get reacjh office. Carter didn't take a budget surplus and turn it to record debt. He didn't allow the worst attack on American soil since the Civil War (espaecially after being warned it was imminent) and then attack countries that had nothing to do with it.

Carter didn't botch the response to a major natural disaster. He didn't crash the economy.

I guess if Sore Loser thinks Carter and Obama are "worse" than Bush we must question what he wants for America.

At 3:59 PM, Blogger Bert Piraino said...

Well written Tom , (as usual) I shudder to think what is coming down the pike. When the Rebuli-turds and Demo-tards put people like Ted Cruz in charge of NASA, and that other bumbling idiot from the south, Marco Rubio, in charge of climate change ... OH BROTHER, WE ARE FUCKED!

and for Sore Loser: Think you're a wit? You're only half right

At 6:31 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Low income workers say immigrants are taking 'our jobs, healthcare, housing'.

Low income Americans, more than any other income group, are angry with immigrants, believing that they are taking their jobs, healthcare and housing.

Providing a rare view into the battle between the poor and immigrants, the Pew Research Center found that 44 percent of the “least financially secure” in America believe immigrants hurt the United States because “they take our jobs, housing and health care.”

The results are from Pew’s new American Trends Panel, a nationally representative panel of randomly selected U.S. adults surveyed online and by mail.

Pew found that the political views of the poor are generally more liberal than the rich, except on immigration:

On only one item – perceptions of the economic impact of immigrants – are the least financially secure more conservative than those who are better off: 44% of the least secure say immigrants are a burden on the U.S. because “they take our jobs, housing and health care.” That is considerably higher than the share of the most financially secure (27%) who express this view.

Corretta Scott King, wife of the slain civil rights leader, warned way back in 1991 that illegal immigration would rob jobs from poor blacks and Hispanics.

In a July 9, 1991, letter to Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, she and eight other civil rights and labor officials worried that businesses would look past low-wage minorities and hire even-lower wage illegals, increasing black and Hispanic unemployment.

America does not have a labor shortage.

(You mean the budget that produced a surplus that the GOP controlled Congress sent Clinton to sign? Or the GOP controlled Congress that reformed welfare under Clinton? Reforms that Obama has since done away with? And we now have 38 months straight of increasing numbers of Americans on food stamps? Hopefully this GOP controlled Congress can halt Obama from destroy America with his immigration policy's. That is what they were elected to do by the people in the 2014 midterms.)

At 10:33 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

I have decided to come back and join the festivities again. Before I get into political postings I have an observation to make.
I see from the web page stats that there are several hundred people a day looking at this site but only four regular posters. To all the lurkers out there, voice your opinion weather you are Repub or Dem. And call your self anything but Anonymous!

At 11:50 PM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...

Welcome back, Mr. James Hanson!

At 1:35 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Low income workers do not say ilegals are taking the jobs. Corporate execs, through Fox news are telling low income Americans that illegals are taking the jobs so they will fear them.

And you really don't thnk the GOP congress created Clinton's surplus do you? Didn't Bush tell us that that surplus was due to Clinton overtaxing Americans? Is't that why he gave us all "rebates" (that were dedudcted from our next year's tax returns)

Or did Bush lie?

At 8:03 AM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...

Who created the balanced budgets that Clinton signed?
Who forced Clinton to reform welfare?

How the Obama-Sharpton Alliance Began.

At 8:09 AM, Anonymous Sore loser said...

The Dangerous Myth About The Bill Clinton Tax Increase

One of the most dangerous myths that has infected the current debate over the direction of tax policy is the oft repeated claim that the tax increases under President Bill Clinton led to the boom of the 1990s. In their Wall Street Journal Op-Ed last Friday, for example, Clinton campaign manager James Carville and Democratic pollster and Clinton advisor Stanley Greenberg write the increase in the top tax rate to 39.6% “produced the one period of shared prosperity in this past era (since 1980).”

While this myth is now a central part of liberal Democratic folklore, it is contradicted by the political disaster and poor economic results that followed the tax increase. The real lesson of the Clinton Presidency is the way back to prosperity lies not through increased taxes on “the rich,” but through tax and regulatory reform and a return to a rules based monetary policy that produces a strong and stable dollar.

Speaking at a fund raiser in 1995, President Clinton said: ”Probably there are people in this room still mad at me at that budget because you think I raised your taxes too much. It might surprise you to know that I think I raised them too much, too.”

President Clinton took the first step toward a successful campaign for re-election and a shift in policy that produced the economic boom that occurred during his second term.

Welfare reform, which he signed in the summer of 1996, led to a massive reduction in the effective tax rates on the poor by ameliorating the rapid phase out of benefits associated with going to work.
The phased reduction in tariff and non-tariff barriers between the U.S., Mexico and Canada under the North American Free Trade Agreement continued, leading to increased trade.
In 1997, Clinton signed a reduction in the (audible liberal gasp) capital gains tax rate to 20% from 28%.
The 1997 tax cuts also included a phased in increase in the death tax exemption to $1 million from $600,000, and established Roth IRAs and increased the limits for deductible IRAs.
Annual growth in federal spending was kept to below 3%, or $57 billion.
The Clinton Administration also maintained its policy of a strong and stable dollar. Over his entire second term, consumer price inflation averaged only 2.4% a year.

It was a prosperity produced by freeing America’s poor from a punitive welfare system, lowering tariffs, reducing tax rates on the creators of wealth, limiting the growth of federal government expenditures, and providing a strong and stable dollar to businesses and families in America and throughout the world.

At 9:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Dangerous myth about the Bill Clinton tax increase.

If you're going to copy and paste cite your source so we don't think you're a plagiarist.

At 9:28 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

In the 50's when tax rates on the highest incomes were 90%, the economy was at it's strongest in US history.

Reagan cuts that in half and the economy tanks.

Clinton raises taxes 3% and the economy grows.

Bush cuts taxes again and the economy tanks.

His tax cuts expire and the economy improves again.

You tell me.

At 10:35 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...


Click on my name and you would have seen the source.

What's the matter, dont have a name?


You honestly believe that taking more of peoples income by higher taxes and giving it to the government makes the economy better? Then let's have a great economy and give all our earnings to the government. Like Venezuela or Cuba.

At 8:09 PM, Anonymous Just Eat Crow said...

Rubbing It In

Obama’s Shattered Presidency Townhall Magazine Jan 05, 2015

"Maybe the most painful loss for Democrats was the nationwide reproach voters dealt the intellectually vacuous War on Women. A media once predisposed to be friendly toward the fictitious assault on women’s rights almost universally caricatured candidates who based their campaigns on this tired theme.

Before the voters rejected him, Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) was dubbed “Mark Uterus” in Colorado’s local press and denied the endorsement of the state’s largest paper as a result of his insulting “one-note” focus on women’s issues. The ill-prepared backbencher Wendy Davis, who only managed to secure the gubernatorial nomination after the national press made her into a celebrity following her filibuster in support of the rights of women to abort babies in the middle of the second trimester, not only lost among all Texans by more than 20 points, but she also failed to even get a majority of women. Even Sandra Fluke, who moved to California to begin her political career as a state senator after serving as the face of the War on Women, lost to a fellow Democrat by nearly 22 points despite raising $1 million."

LOL LOL on the Progressives who drank the kool-aid from their central planning masters about the "War On Women".

The biggest buffoon was the tough thick skulled prison guard who harped on and foamed at the mouth about the "GOP's War On Women". Thanks for the laughs Dave!

At 9:28 PM, Anonymous Paul said...

The key to understanding what's been going on for over 1,400 years is understanding that Islam is NOT a religion as we've been repeatedly been told. It is a systems of government, a system of control over social, cultural, economic, legal AND religious institutions that uses religious rules to enforce its authoritarian control.

It can not co-exist within another culture or civilization because at its core it seeks to supplant all others. Individuals who practice the religious aspects of Islam and reject the others, what Bill Maher correctly calls nominal Muslims (as opposed to moderate) can coexist while those who don't will always be in conflict with whatever non-Islamic culture, civilization or religion they come into contact with.

At 9:16 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Paul nailed it.

At 11:06 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sore Loser, do you honestly believe that having 3% of the population control 95% of the wealth makes the economy better?

That's what caused the Great Depression AND the Bush recession genius.

You have no problerm with money being taken from "the people", you just don't like it when the rich have to pay their fair share of taxes. And don't give us the old "rich people pay more than poor people" crap. That old myth was debunked a long time ago.

I notice you didn't mention places where taxes are a bit higher like Scandinavia or even France or Canada, where the standard of living is HIGHER than the USA.

At 11:08 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Paul and "Just eat Crow" Need to realize that most of the country does not buy the Fox news BS.

Maybe you guys need to find better sources of info.

At 12:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ted Cruz making decisions for NASA. WOW!!!!!!

At 12:19 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Mozart needs to realize that most Tom Degan viewers do not buy his BS.

At 2:24 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Actually I'd guess I'm in closr agreement with the vast majority of Americans than any conservative is.

If people REALLY thought like x=conservatives, why do conservatives have to cheat to win elections?

And have you noticed how fast Sore Loser changes subjects after he's been shot down?
You'd think it was Mitt Romney...

At 2:52 PM, Anonymous WhoMe said...

OK. I'll admit it. I'm an Upstate NY conservative that enjoys Tom's blog. There. I said it. I'm out of the closet, so to speak. I'll even go as far as to give myself a moniker here; WhoMe. I don't agree with Tom a lot of the time, but there are those rare moments he makes sense. I do like his style, his conviction and he's a handsome devil. I hear he's a good dancer too. That being said, I will repeat what I have said here before; discussion and debate is good. When we stop talking is when we have real problems. Peace.

At 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anarchy be far behind?

Americans are getting pretty fed up with the BS from both parties.

And the sad truth is, we elect these people to lead us.

At 3:18 PM, Anonymous WhoMe said...

May I suggest my own "Suggested Listening" post? Given recent events in France and Belgium I would have to recommend David Bowie's Heathen album. "They slip away..."

At 4:22 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

"That's what caused the Great Depression AND the Bush recession genius."

Shows how much you know Mozart.
Prove it.
What do you think the % of American's who control the wealth should be?
What's their "fair share'?
Got a number?
Come on Mozart, man up and give us your Radical Progressive answers and wisdom.

Headline from favorite Radical Progressive news source: Salon: Woman Explains Why She Decided To Lose Her Virginity To Her Dad…

At 7:45 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Woman Explains Why She Decided To Lose Her Virginity To Her Dad…

Chuck, do I sense a hint of jealousy that Liberals get more perks than you guys?

At 9:48 PM, Anonymous Chuck said...

"Woman Explains Why She Decided To Lose Her Virginity To Her Dad…"

James, I think with today's Progressives and their Moral Relativism, it is their belief that it is OK that a woman can have sex with her Dad.

We conservatives just have to do our best to be politically correct and not criticize such behavior since it might result in the IRS conducting an audit on our last tax filing. This is part of the transformation of AmeriKa that Obama proudly boasts of.

At 10:39 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

I just Goggled "What state has the most incest?
Guess who won, Alabama and Alaska!

Reality sucks sometimes does't it?

At 11:08 PM, Anonymous Confused Progressive said...

NY State blesses ‘incest’ marriage between uncle, niece

The state’s highest court has toppled a cultural taboo — legalizing a degree of incest, at least between an uncle and niece — in a unanimous ruling.

While the laws against “parent-child and brother-sister marriages . . . are grounded in the almost universal horror with which such marriages are viewed . . . there is no comparably strong objection to uncle-niece marriages,” Tuesday’s ruling reads.

At 12:24 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

As expected no reply, no answer, just post and run.

"the old "rich people pay more than poor people" crap. That old myth was debunked a long time ago."

Really? You think that 3% of the populations controlling 95% of the wealth is what caused depression?
Where did you get that statistic?

Top 1% had avg tax rate of 23.5% and paid 35.1% of income taxes
Top 50% had avg tax rare of 13.8% and paid 97.1% of income taxes
Bottom 50% had tax rate of 3.13% and paid 2.89% of income taxes.

2013 same as above

1913 (I know its over 75 years ago which you said is not important even though you did bring up the depression which started over 75 years ago)
Top rate was 7%
Top rate was 77% (in part this rate was to pay off the debt cost of WW1 as was the huge increase during and after WWII, IE: from under 10% by FDR to over 85% after 1941)

Share of taxes collected by income
income 1926 1928
under $5000 1.8% 1.1%
5000-10k 2.7% 2.0%
10k-25k 9.8% 7.1%
25 to over 100k 34.7% 61.3%


Under the evil GWB the bottom 50% of income earners percentage of taxes paid DROPPED from 3.97% in 2001 to 2.7 in 2008%
At the same time the percentage of income taxes paid by the top 50% of earners went UP from 96.03 in 2001 to 97.30% in 2008.

I must have missed it, but where are all the tax cuts for the very rich that Radical Progressives have lied about so often that it has become an urban legend?

click on my name for my last source(hint: it's not Limbaugh or Fox News)

And dont bring up that old Radical Progressive myth that corporations don't pay any taxes.
Don't forget that
a. the people the corporations employee pay taxes and their SS
b. Federal tax rates on corporate taxable income vary from 15% to 35%.
c. At 35%, the United States has the highest nominal top corporate tax rate in any of the world's developed economies. Good ole USA, we'er number ONE!

I know this is not as catchy as "tax the rich" or "people before profits."
But it's real. I doubt the Radical Progressives will understand much less believe any of it.

At 2:05 PM, Blogger Wally D said...

To think that EITHER party has the "little people" of this country in mind your just NUTZ!
What ever side of the coin you like to look at you have to remember that there is the ring between that has both side working together and not fighting.

BOTH parties have messed this country up...
The sole reason there is 2 parties is to keep us fighting, while they(our elected officials) fleece us.

PLEASE someone show me where either party has TRULEY, tried to stop big business or academia, (the fraud of higher education)or the government it self, from stealing every penny from us?

You guys seem to have brains in your head,,, but you all also seem to be stuck in the right left trap. something WE THE PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK ON, not the government.

At 3:41 PM, Anonymous Will Beria said...

"Top Ten Things To Come in the coming year.

1. Recovery will reach escape velocity and escape the economy altogether
2. All executive orders will be declared constitutional by executive order
3. Robert Kennedy Jr. will apologize for being white and male, blaming his parents
4. The New York Times will cut operating costs by replacing fact-checkers with rubber stamp
5. A Harvard professor will find evidence proving evidence proves nothing
6. City of San Francisco will be leveled because steep hills made it handicap inaccessible
7. Nobel-winning economists will admit bafflement that deficit keeps growing despite increased government spending
8. Last Baby Boomer will go kicking and screaming into his 60s; generation will be renamed 'Crybaby Boomers'
9. Congress will stand up to Wall Street; bankers will take their seats
10. Sesame Street will sue Letter 'S' for monopolizing both plural and possessive nouns

In more News From the Future:

A Supreme Court decision in "Fabian and Fabian versus America" will result in a declaration that naming governmental entities (cities, states, etc.) or taxpayer-supported institutions after Christian saints or personages is in violation of the separation of church and state. Additionally, using for this purpose the name of a Caucasian and/or male is declared racist and/or sexist in violation of the equal protection clause and/or something in the Constitution the Supreme Court will defer explaining to the future.

In light of the decision, San Francisco will revert to Yerba Buena and the City of Angels, Los Angeles, will become Los Humanas. The state of Pennsylvania will become the all-inclusive Pansylvania, Pittsburgh will become Peoplesburgh, and Philadelphia, City of Brotherly Love, will be rechristened renamed Philatransgendoria. St. Louis will become Middleopolis. Their pro sports teams will follow suit: the Rams will become the gender-neutral Middleopolis Sheep, and the Cardinals will become the Laypersons.

The USA itself will drop the connection to Amerigo Vespucci and become the USNC, United States of North Continenta. Disassociating from Columbus and Washington, the capitol will be renamed Omnicity, District of Potomaca. The NFL franchise will follow suit, becoming the Omnicity Redskins."

Will Beria

At 3:44 PM, Blogger Rain Trueax said...

I don't find any of this funny. The kinds of things the Republicans, in states or national, are trying to do is what we warned but too many stayed home and didn't vote. To top it off, Republicans keep saying how-- this is what the people voted for. That could be funny if a person had a macabre sense of humor. When Obama won by not just the Electoral College but by millions more votes, that wasn't the will of the people. This current Congress who had 20 million more vote against then than for them, that is the will of the people. Well, for those who stayed home, you are getting what you said wasn't any different-- only it sure as heck is!

At 9:33 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

WallyD nailed it...

At 2:28 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

4 million Republicans who voted in 2008 didn't vote in 2012.
Democrat voter suppression.

Shortages Undermine
Venezuela´s Teetering Socialism
Venezuelans are being arrested for posting Internet photos of shortages in stores. So let´s get this straight: Murder and mayhem are de facto legal in that crime pit, but posting evidence of socialism´s failure merits jailing. As socialism plays out to its logical conclusion in Venezuela, the specters of long lines, rationing, troop enforcers, bizarre edicts and desperate statements are now the order of the day. Not only have more than a dozen Venezuelans been arrested for posting photographs of empty store shelves on social media, three governors have responded to long lines by — prohibiting them; ordering the arrest of those in ordering the arrest of anyone who lines up for goods before sunrise.

And along with 80% food-price inflation, an economy premised on importing 70% of its food supply, and a minimum wage that covers only 17% of a basic food basket, it's obvious that the POOR are SUFFERING the most FROM 16 YEARS of SOCIALISM.

Which is what Venezuela's bishops stated in a pastoral letter that powerfully denounced the poverty and ruin brought to their country.

The government's decision to "impose a political-economic system" that is "socialist, Marxist or communist," "totalitarian and centralist" and "undermines the freedom and rights of individuals and associations" is to blame, they wrote.

The system, they said, has failed wherever it's been tried and "created growing poverty among large sectors of the population, particularly among those with the fewest economic resources."

The statement resonates because it says what no politician has been willing to utter, said Pedro Burelli, a Venezuelan policy expert based in Washington and a former board member of the state oil company PDVSA.

"Nobody has been willing to call a spade a spade," he said, citing an unwillingness even among Venezuela's opposition to characterize the effects of socialism on the poor. "They've always been in awe of (the late strongman Hugo) Chavez, and never understood that (the largess of his socialism) was fueled by an unsustainable oil boom and it was going to collapse."

Thanks to socialism, the country is falling apart. This week, UBS investment bank estimated that Venezuela had an 80% likelihood of default this year.

Do you find any of this funny True?

At 12:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, sore loser's jingoistic, right winger politics lessens the sum total of human knowledge with each post he makes. In this week's dose, he tries to condemn socialism by citing Venezuela as a poster child for socialism's failures. Never once does he ponder that the Venezuelan economy might be mismanaged. Moreover, he doesn't admit that the world's most advanced economies are socialized democracies. Why does he never envy those economies?
He also seeks to depict this country's wealthy as overtaxed, a burden tossed upon their poor backs by "radical progressives." Why doesn't this shallow one-note cite the true problem America suffers from, namely. a concentration of wealth at the top? Does he admit that the middle class has shared none of the income growth in the past 35 years in spite of soaring middle class productivity?
The world is not black and white except in the eyes of this column's resident stumphead. What a charmed life he must lead.

At 2:49 PM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...

Lot of big Radical Progressive words for some one who doesn't have a name.

At 2:53 PM, Anonymous James Hanson said...

Sore Asshole,

Go phrack yourself!

Venezuela's revenue from petroleum exports accounts for more than 50% of the country's GDP and roughly 95% of total exports.

It is the Koch Brothers who have brought down the price of oil to try to sink Venezuela and that paradise of social justice created by Hugo Chavez.

I was thinking of going there but not if they have a shortage of toilet paper.

At 3:01 PM, Anonymous Just Say'n said...

The NY Times should add a little asterisk in their slogan "all the news that is fit* to print", with the asterisk then stating "except pictures that would offend Islam or harm the Democratic party".

Then at least no one could accuse them of denying anything.

At 6:10 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

James Hanson,

It's the Koch Brothers "fault" that oil prices have dropped?

If that's the truth then every American in the middle and lower class should demand a statue be erected of them in front of DNC headquarters for lowering their cost of energy/living! Something the Radical Progressive anti-capitalist, unwashed Occupy Wall Street mob hasn't been able to do. Which is to improve the lives of the "little guy" in America with out taking from somebody else. And it's being done with out the consent of Big Government, how distressful that must be.

Do the Saudi's know they are following the orders of the Koch's?

At 6:38 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Sore loser/Chuck are you having a mental breakdown, you are the one posting as James Hanson and now you are posting to yourself?

At 8:03 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Hah, I responded at 6:10 PM to the poster who called themselves James Hansen and posted at 2:53 PM.
Nor am I Chuck or Chucky or what ever else you claim that I am.

How do I know you are really James Hansen? The poster who I recently welcomed back?
You could be Dumbya or Mofart or True for that matter.

Regardless of "who's on first", the truth is the lower cost of oil is helping the poor of American like no Radical Progressive share the wealth plan ever could.
Drill Baby, Drill is the reason for the price drop, not renewable energy or wind and solar produced electricity.
Kind of amazing what happens when you allow the American free enterprise system to operate. More "good paying jobs", lower cost for energy, less dependance on Muslim country's for our oil needs.

At 9:40 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

SL -

It's in the spelling.

Real one is Hansen.

Other one in Hanson...

The Hanson post was satirical I believe...

At 1:17 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Spore Loser, I have a life, so I can't be here 24/7.

Second, when you learn how the government works, and develop some common sense, I'l debate with you.

But then if you had common sense and knew how the government works, there would be nothing to debate.

When oil prices were high, conservatives blamed Obama because he hadn't fixed the economy fast enough.

NOW Conservatives are blaming Obaba for LOW oil prices , because it's bad for the economy when fuel prices are low.

There were more refineries running under Obama than under Bush, and fuel prices were still high. It's got nothng to do with drilling.

If oil prices are this low without the XL pipeline, what's the big emergency to build it?

At 1:23 PM, Anonymous James Hanse said...

Chuck, everybody here has their own writing style and it is fairly easy to differentiate who is who.
You have almost always used Hanson when addressing me so I have to assume you are the impersonator on the Rant.

On another note you do not have a clue about what is happening in the oil business.
Five hundred billion dollars of junk bond securities financing the fracking industry will go up in smoke because the price of oil is too low.

All the small companies will go out of business and no new wells will be drilled. By 2016 there will be a banking crisis and sky high gas prices.

Also our regime change bullshit in Russia will cause the U.S. to lose the petro dollar and hyper inflation will follow.

2016 will be a time of monumental change and none for the better.

At 2:02 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

Neighbor of mine was complaining about all the money the IRS squandered on hotel rooms for themselves.

I saw an interesting comment on another site by someone who addressed that issue:

"BTW, the “$3,000/night suite” claim sounded like something worth checking out, so I Googled. This is referring to an IRS conference in 2010, where several of the top brass stayed in suites that have a rack price of $1,500/night. So already a Fox News lie, but it’s even more of a lie than that, because the IRS negotiated all the rooms, including the suite upgrades, down to $135/night. So he’s only off by more than 22 times. The writer quoted in the post, and making that claim, BTW, is the same guy whose contributions to the Kansas City Star are no longer welcome because they caught him lying (about different stuff) and making them look stupid. " - JDM

At 2:13 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

The key to understanding what's been going on for years in the "Bible Belt" is understanding that conservative evangelical christianity is NOT a religion as we've repeatedly been told. It is a system of government, a system of control over social, cultural, economic, legal AND religious institutions that uses religious rules to enforce its authoritarian control.

It cannot co-exist within another culture or civilization because at its core it seeks to supplant all others. Individuals who practice the religious aspects of conservative evangelical christianity will always be in conflict with whatever non-conservative evangelical christian culture, civilization or religion they come into contact with.

At 2:54 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Caprice nailed it.

At 2:58 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

No, DD, Caprice missed and busted his thumb. Poor guy (or gal).

The real James Hansen nailed it...

My favorite quote I've read recently... "The Swiss just yelled FIRE! while standing next to the exit.."

It's about to get VERY interesting in 2015/16 as I've alluded to for a couple years on this blog... the global margin call

At 3:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As our 1% overlords are marching us 99 Percenters into the inferno (the upcoming economic shit storm) the republicans will be muttering, "that goddamn Obama."

At 12:37 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Yes Harley, Caprice did nail it. It was a satiric parody of Paul's over generalized, stereotyped rant about Muslims.

In the sense the latter was a parody instead of bigotry-tinged intolerance, it succeeded.

The past 1400 years show both Islam and Christianity had similar characteristics. Both did in fact influence governments and displayed intolerance. Remember the crusades and inquisitions? How about the libraries Muslims kept and the science they preserved while Christendom burned libraries and witches during the dark ages?

And today fundamentalists are steering government to their agenda in many Republican controlled states. It is religion driven authoritarian control to reduce reproductive rights of women and force them to undergo medical procedures against their will. "Religious" corporate "persons" can interfere between employees and their insurance.

And that is enough grain of truth on its own to make the parody and satire work.

You see the grain of truth is behind effective parody and satire.

At 12:41 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

And the real James Hansen did nail it, in all his comments.

At 11:13 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

I predicted months ago that in the final two years of the Obama regime,
his administration would raise interest rates. after having kept them artificially low for 6 years. This action will cause another recession.
So yes, if Obama does that, he will be blamed for a failing economy.

Oh wise one, tell me how government works?

At 11:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sore loser once again falls into the ideologue's trap. The Federal Reserve is an independent agency, outside the Treasury Department. The Obama "regime," does not control interest rates. Good Lord, this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

At 1:41 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sore Loser, a plain old high school civics class would do you wonders. It would at least save you from the embarrassment of not knowing that the Senate is part of congress, or that the President does not control fuel prices or interest rates.

The closest a POTUS came to having control over oil prices is the Bush family ownership of oil companies

At 2:17 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Boulder of truth in the former, perhaps a small grain in the latter.

False comparison in the end, though.

Cute, sure.

At 2:43 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...


Please share with me your knowledge of how government works.
Starting with were does government get it's income to operate?

At 3:34 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

False comparison in the end, though.

It was direct parody, not "false comparison".

A false comparison would be CNN to the Onion. Or FOX to CNN, or any other news organization.

At 4:08 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Implicit false comparison IMO. Look, anyway, no big deal...

At 5:33 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sore Loser, why don't you just take a high school civics course?

It would save you a ton of embarrassment.

At 8:20 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Oh Please Mr. Mozart a.k.a. Dullest Pencil in the Box, I need your help to understand how govt works and where govt get's it money to operate.
Oh Mr.Mozart, please tell me what is the relationship between our Govt and me. Please tell me what the white male slave owning authors of our Constitution thought the govt should be doing for me? Tell me how to overcome the evil rich white men of the GOP who are the only ones' standing between me and the happiness govt OWES me and has promised me in exchange for my vote.
Oh Mr Mozart, for one who has signed up for the ACA and is benefiting from the help from others for you own health care, how can you be so selfish as to deny my request?

My future is in your hands, how can you turn your back on the most needy of all the needy, me?

At 8:53 PM, Anonymous JJ said...

I don't blame Barry for all this stupidity. I blame the fools who elected him.

An article in the Prague newspaper, Prager Zeitungon:

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President."

At 9:11 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Notice how all the conservatives are quoting communists?

They think Putin is great and now this guy because they don't like Obama. Hmmm...

One wonders what they would be whning about if those people liked Obama?

As for Sore Loser, it's just getting sadder. He really should stop.

At 12:36 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Whats the matter Mozart, the new eye glasses I helped you buy not working as promised?

Couple of things oh great Dullest Pencil in the Box. (DPB)

JJ's quote was from a newspaper in
Prague, the Capital of the Czech Republic, not in Russia as you seem to think,
No where in JJ's post did he mention Putin or Russia.
You only missed it by about 850 miles, not bad for a Radical Progressive.
Putin is not a communist. (click on my name for supporting evidence.)

Maybe you Mozart, need to go back to high school and finish your geography classes and then graduate.

The American republic "It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President."
Thanks Mozart.

At 8:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To JJ: You did not quote an "article" in Prager Zeitung, but a reader comment, which has no editorial impact. The paper happens to be a German liberal news outlet.

At 10:22 AM, Blogger Tyler Thompson said...

At 11:30 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Putin is not a communist.

Coming from an idiot who thinks liberals are commies, quoting a Right Wing rag.


Here's their "thinking". Byrd was a Klansman until he died. Liberals are commies. Vlad "KGB" Putin is no commie...because he criticized the Bolsheviks action in 1918.

At 12:40 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

To JJ: You did not quote an "article" in Prager Zeitung, but a reader comment, which has no editorial impact. The paper happens to be a German liberal news outlet.

Well, I saw this article in the Wall Street Journal:

"My sister lost her job, but after working just one hour a day on her computer she made $7,787 last week! You can too! if you click here!!"

Oh wait.... that was a reader comment. Sorry.

At 12:41 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Last time I Czeched (get it) Putin was a commuist. Just because his couontry currently isn't does not mean he isn't trying to take it back that way. I guess I can eat a little crow over the Czech republic though. It's not like I didn't know the Senate was part of congress, or how the government is supposed to make it's money.

And I guess Texas isn't in America since it's over 800 miles from Washington DC.

At least it would be nce if Texas wasn't in the USA anyway.

And did you see how some childish, disrespectful, conservatives tried to heckle Obama during the State of the Union last night?

Did you also see how he shot them down in flames? I love that man. Still so refreshing to hear an intelligent educated man speak after 8 years of Bush butchering the language.

I didn't stick around to see "Phoni Joni" Ernst do ONE of the rebuttles for the GOP.(Why do they need more than one?) We heard enough of her "castrating" reality when she was campaigning.

At 2:52 PM, Blogger Rain Trueax said...

Do right wingers ever check out anything they post? Prager Zeitungon? They don't because they read something and want to believed it.

Last night I did watch Joni Ernst after Obama as I was curious about what someone like her would say, who had come out for personhood when in the Iowa legislature and claimed Obama acted as a dictator and should be impeached.

She's pretty, speaks well, and said nothing of substance which means she was there with the hope she can be a right wing prospect for veep. What any of them believe or will do remains to be seen as they always talk-- compassionate conservative right up until they get power and push their right wing values onto everybody else.

So check your sources more than the right wing bloggers. Bloggers can say and post anything... right or left ;)

At 3:54 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

"She's pretty, speaks well, and said nothing of substance... "

I agree.

Same as Obama...

That is the job description for working in DC.

At 4:10 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Mozart (DPB)

New glasses doing a great job for you?


Oh sure, but quoting a Radical Progressive left wing rag, now THAT'S something special!

Forbes is a right wing rag?

I'd like to see what sources Mozart(DPB), Dumbya, Caprice, have to support their claim that Putin IS a Communist.

But knowing that will happen when is rains little green apples, I thought I'd give a few sources (that I'm sure Dumbya will claim are right wing rags) that support the statement that Putin is not a Commie.

I believe what Spiegel says about Putin is the closest to what he is.

In other news, Obama says he wants to work with GOP after they have under his administration, taken 80 democrat seats in Congress, but then promises veto's on bills that even members of his party want passed.

So who does he represent if he veto's bills passed with DNC support?
Could it be he supports the Radical Orogressive agenda?

At 5:04 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

This should be simple.

When did Putin resign from the Communist Party?

About the same time Obama joined it?

Maybe the "Decider" knows. He looked into Putin's eyes and "saw his soul".

Putin is a Republican now, I guess. He acts like one.

At 5:14 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

So Dumbya, back to your old Radical Progressive ticks again. You can't help it, your hate is what fuels your Progressiveness.
If you can't produce a source, put words in your opponents mouth, mock them, anything to deflect from your failed argument.
So boring with you Dumbya, so boring.

At 5:45 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Sore Asshole completely misses the point. He's always suggesting liberals and Obama are commies, but defends a KGB thug like Putin from the label.

What and idiot.

He has shown he has no idea what he's talking about.

So what, if Putin acts more like a Republican than a commmie?

Mandatory medical procedures are a part of the war on women, really a war on their reproductive rights. The Right clearly wants women to have less rights than men.

Why do they run from that truth? They clearly want THEIR BIG GOVERNMENT to control womens' reproductive choices.

Hypocrites. But we all know that.

Now Republicans are attacking social security and deregulating Wall Street.

AND they lie about that being the "will of the American people".

They act like a bunch of Putins.

Republicans and Putin are enemies of democracy as much as any communist.

At 7:18 PM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...

Gee Dumbya, for all the horrible things you CLAIM the GOP is doing how is it then that they now control both the House and Senate?
Especially after 6 years of you and other Radical Progressives running interference for the DNC

At 7:54 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

And Sore Loser wonders why everyone here thinks his name fits. At least the second word.


At 11:42 PM, Anonymous Pappyz said...

I see all the wingnut are in attendance with the tinfoil hats and the ignorance that complements same.

Thanks for facilitating the "lesser minds" of the right on your blog

At 11:53 PM, Anonymous Pappyz said...

Tax on Companies that ship jobs overseas - BLOCKED
Political Ad disclosure bill - BLOCKED
The Small Business Jobs Act - BLOCKED
The Dream Act - BLOCKED
Repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell - NUMEROUS BLOCKS
Anti-Rape Amendment - BLOCKED
Benefits for Homeless Veterans - BLOCKED
Affordable Health Care for America - VOTED 34 TIMES TO REPEAL
The Jobs Bill - BLOCKED
Wall Street Reform - BLOCKED
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act - attempted BLOCK
Oil Spill Liability - BLOCKED
Immigration Reform - BLOCKED
Unemployment extension bill HR-4213 - BLOCKED
Fair Pay Act of 2009 - BLOCKED & DEFEATED

That damn Obama, he's just not getting anything done.

At 4:36 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

And when he uses the 100% legal executive order to get around these vindictive children in the GOP, he's called a "Dictator".

At 8:12 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Based on the 80 Congressional seats the DNC LOST TO THE GOP in 4 years, Americans must be happy with the GOP blocking Obama.

At 12:17 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

how is it then that they now control both the House and Senate?

The GOP took the House in 2012 with more Americans voting for the other party. The GOP took the Senate in 2014 with more Americans voting for the other party.

So much for the "will of the people".

They enemies of democracy are winning.

At 12:58 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Apparantly Sore Loser has never heard of "Gerrymandering". Also maybe he was still in the basement playing video games when it was all over the news how the GOP disenfranchised tens of thousands of legal voters in each of several states so they could cheat their way in that way as well. Bush got "selected" president in 2000, electronic voting machines built by a close family friend got him "reselected" in 2004. Now they redraw voting districts everywhere (Bransdat was just bragging about how "efficient" they have become at that just the other day) and come up with ridiculous new laws (right after the SCOTUS dumped about half the voting rights act)requiring ID's from the poor and minorities (Most of whom coincidentally vote Democrat) that were NEVER required before, even thought the "votor fraud" they claimed caused the changes never actually existed)

So Sore Loser can brag all he wants. If one has to CHEAT to win, it's not REALLY a victory is it? The voices of billionare corporations were heard. The PEOPLE were ignored.

He must be a New England Patriots fan.

At 1:29 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

The Senate races are state races - not nationwide races. So, the comparison of seats won to popular vote doesn't mean much - unless we get rid of the republic and have a national democracy. So, by the nature of how Senate seats are allocated, it isn't unusual to have that "imbalance", right? I don't think it means the "will of the people" is thwarted. It is a structural phenomenon of the way it is set up...

At 3:31 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Harley, I think the point is that even thought NATIONWIDE Dems gpot more votes, the GOP somehow manages to CLAIM that they won an election, which clearly they didn't. The people spoke, the GOP just only listened to those they wanted to hear from, meaning the Billionares.

At 4:37 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Right, but the point of the Senate by definition is not to be a proportional body but rather a body defined by the equality of states regardless of population. So, it is certainly a political victory for either party if they take Senate seats - regardless of the combined total votes. It is in place to maintain the balance between state and Federal power.

I'm not sure what else to call it other than a "win", even though more total D votes were recorded than R votes. In the case of the Senate that is, by definition, irrelevant...

At 4:47 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


I know how it works.

The point was the "the will of the people" spouted by Republicans isn't correct. MOST Americans don't want them.

Now the Republican Party is imposing the will of the minority...deregulating Wall Street, shredding environmental regulations, and destroying safety nets... as usual.

At 4:49 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Orwell nailed it. "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others."

Such is is our unrepresentative, non-democratic, non-republic.

At 5:41 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

You also forgot to mention Harley, that many legal, eligable voters were denied that right by stupid "voter fraud" laws, even though there was no real evidence of individual voter fraud.

Go figure this happened within 48 hours of the SCOTUS announcing that racism is over in the USA so we don't need the Voting rights act anymore.

Clearly we DO, but since fair elections don't work out well for the GOP these days...

At 5:54 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

" that many legal, "eligable" voters were denied that right"

You mean like the 4 million GOP voters of 2008 that didn't vote in 2012?
You are talking about democrat voter suppression?

At 6:20 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I don't know where Sore Loser gets his info, but I'm sure it's from Fox news or Limbaugh.

Tell us oh master of the American political system, WHAT 4 MILLION GOP VOTERS?

Were they denied that right by some law, or did they just CHOOSE not to participate because they could not support any of the GOP candidates, and they would not vote for a BLACK man?

Tell us Oh Master please, how that was Obama's fault.

At 6:28 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I just did a Google search for SOre Loser's "4 million missing GOP voters"

Even though the ONLY plce reporting ANYTHING of the sort are ultra right wing sites, even THEY don't say that it was 4 million REPUBLICAN voters. They say WHITE voters who could have voted either way.

Maybe that's because the only people that matter to Republicans are White people.

The point being that there were no laws PREVENTING them from voting, they just didn't like the choice between a Black man and a Mormon.

On the other hand Minority votes were either disenfranchised or simply thrown out in Florida in 2000, and now it's legal everywhere because the SCOTUS thinks there is no racism in America. As a reult several red states passed actual LAWS preventing many otherwise legal voters from participating.

At 6:55 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

I can see your new Obama glasses have really improved your typing and spelling.

First of all where do you get your claim of GOP voter suppression, from left wing rags?
Instead of Googling simple go to a Federal Govt website compare the number of vote for the GOP candidate in 2008 vs 2012. There is a 4 million vote difference and NOT an 4 million increase in votes for Obama.

Next your argument that GOP voters didn't like their choice also applies to the mid term elections where the DNC lost 80 seats, the voters didn't like the choice offered in the Congressional races so they stayed home.
Finally if your theory of the GOP cheating and all the other SORE LOSER crap you use to excuse a defeat is true, then explain how the DNC has taken Congress in past years? Was it voter suppression of GOP voters or the voice of Americans?

Losing 80 Congressional seats in two elections is a pretty loud demand from the American people to stop the policy's of Obama, no matter how you cut it.

Your argument is pure drivel

At 7:27 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Now we know why Sore Loser gets no respect.

Again, I suggest a high school civics class, along with his getting his info from someplace other than right wing sites.

We already taled about Gerrymandering and voter suppression laws.

But by all means, bring up my typing again. That shows you REALLY don't want to discuss how the GOP has to CHEAT to win elections.

At 7:30 PM, Anonymous Just The Facts said...

If unemployment were measured like it was in the 1930's (that is people who can work but aren't) then Unemployment would be 14%.

The reason it is 5.6% is because 8.4% quit looking for work and went on welfare and Social Security Disability (oh! my back hurts so bad!).

At 7:42 PM, Anonymous Harry said...

I must say the cheering at the SOTU to Obama's "no more campaigns" was immature. But, Obama the man-child cannot rise above it even when he is lecturing on civility just seconds before.

What does man-child do? Takes the low road and is immature right back. Wow, what a leader.

If Obama was not a man-child he should have said "see this is what I am talking about on civility" after the applause. He would have rose way above the fray and actually made the GOP look much worse by taking the high road.

But as we have seen over 6 years, there is no high road with Obama. He possesses a paper thin resume and lacks the maturity and leadership ability to find the high road. The GOP should not have applauded and Obama, well as usual, Obama should not have acted stupidly.

At 8:09 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

I'm going to see American Sniper with my boyfriend Dave Dubya this weekend!

At 1:18 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Several months before the 2014 midterms I predicted that the GOP would kick the DNC's butts, and that Mozart would claim it was because the GOP cheated.
Once again the DPB has shown he is such a Radical Progressive ideologue, that he has lost touch with reality.

I would like to hear his explanation of how Gerrymandering has produced more Republican Governors than Democrats Governors and has given control of the Senate to the GOP?
But WE have talked about that already, so don't bother Mozart with the facts.

I watched the first showing of Mozart favorite news(?) source, MSNBC's R. Maddow today, 1/22/15. The first report was about the evil rich Koch brothers.
I then watched today 1/22/15 the second showing of the Megan Kelly show on FOX News. Her first news report was on the most recent events in the Middle East which might impact the security of America
1. The fall of the pro American Govt in Yeman to a branch of al-Qaida.
2. The death of pro western King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia.
3. Israel released spy photos of an Iranian ICBM.

Looks to me the Radical Progressives are telling us who they feel most threatened by.

At 8:35 AM, Anonymous Caprice said...

Caprice said...

I'm going to see American Sniper with my boyfriend Dave Dubya this weekend!

Funny! Actually, I didn't say that. Someone made this comment using my name. Was it JJ? Someone intellectually dishonest enough to troll Tom's blog with disinformation? Actually, it could have been any one of you wingnut trolls, but I suspect JJ. Says a lot about the character of "conservatives" when they play dirty tricks. But what do you expect from followers of Nixon, Karl Rove, Roger Ailes, etc?

At 8:41 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Sore Loser, I believe you are being disingenuous about getting more informed about politics. You could Google gerrymandering and find out more in reading three or four articles than I could tell you in a brief post here.

You are highly partisan and have no desire to find out the truth. Being lazy does not help either.

At 9:15 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Ok, maybe more accurate to say the "will of the States" vs. "will of the people".

If the people TRULY got to choose, I'm confident we'd not choose most of the candidates on either side...

At 10:38 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...


What you believe about me being disingenuous, is wrong.
Want proof?
Are you aware of NBC going back to the days of "separate but equal"?
Here's a quote from NBC, not FOX News.

"Welcome To NBCBLK, A Letter From the Editor...
By Amber Payne

NBCBLK covers stories by, for and about the black community. Our product is meant to elevate America's conversation about black identity, politics, and culture. We share positive, solution-based journalism and report on challenging issues that communities of color face today. NBCBLK taps NBC News journalists around the world to tell these stories, and we curate reports from NBC News platforms -- Nightly, Today Show, Dateline, and local affiliates among other NBC outlets.

We welcome your ideas, your feedback, and your perspective.

Amber Payne, Editor "

The point I"m trying to make to Mozart, and I admit it might be a lost cause (Operation Lost Cause, LOL?), is while his head is filled with visions of the evil Koch's by Maddow, he is unaware of the events that are really evil and effecting America. For all the caterwauling about FOX News, his choice of information is supporting his view of evil. Which is partisan to the left and now heading back to the Jim Crow, separate but equal segregationist days

As for my being partisan, it seems you again miss my point.
How does Gerrymandering produced more Republican Governors than Democrats Governors and has given control of the Senate to the GOP? The claim that gerrymandering by the GOP is the only reason they control the House ignores the fact that the GOP holds the majority of Governorships and the Senate, positions that can't be gerrymandered. And as I predicted, Mozart would claim the GOP cheated. That was my point, that Mozart is blind to the reasons voters voted against his position.

A little truth in blogging is necessary at this time.
One of the central reasons for my continued support of the GOP has been their position on abortion. I unashamedly admit to being opposed to the legalization of abortion. Recent actions on abortion by the GOP has lessen my support of the GOP, a lot. But since I cant find any pro life democrat candidates, I will vote in the future only for the pro life candidate or not vote at all.
I'm that partisan on that issue.

At 12:24 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Man, when Sore Loser decides to di a hole, he dosn't fool araound does he?

OF COURSE Fox news is not going to report on the Kochs (Who are a bigger threat to National Security than any foreign terrorist)


And OF COURSE He world "Predict" that the GOP would "win" and that we would accurately report that it was due to cheating.

They DID Cheat. It happened.


At 12:27 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Ohm and Sore Loser also forgets that there are other ways to cheat your way into political office. One way is to disenfranchise enough opposing voters through stupid paranoia based "voter fraud" laws.

Which is also what happened.

At 12:29 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sore Loser, do you appose fertility clinics?

The reason I ask is that they destroy more embryoes every year than are destroyed by abortions.

PLus, if abortion is murder, then miscarraige is invoulantary manslaughter. No way around that one.

You also don't give a crap about the kid AFTER it's born, so get off your high horse.

At 3:03 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Mr James Hansen,
If you have gotten this far in this thread and have read Mozart's 3 posts in response to my post to YOU, you will understand why it is I say about Mozart,
I rest my case!

Do you think Mozart is partisan?

At 6:27 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Welcome to Sore Asshole's list of name theft victims.

He has a long history.

Ask James Hansen about it. Harry is another one. There are many more.

The inarguable point is the radical hate filled Right has no moral compass.

They lie and cheat any way they can. This is true both on a small scale blog and up through Right Wing corporate media and the Republican Party.

But we all know this by now.

They are evil.

At 9:05 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Yes, Sore Loser, I am "partisan", as are you and everyone else in the world.

I am PROUD to be a Liberal Democrat because I care about people more than money. I'd rather MY Taxes go to feed a hungry family than to line the pocket of a billionare, or worse, to make weapons so we can kill brown people more efficiently.

Sore Loser is just that. A LOSER. He's been on the wrong side of every topic since I started reading this blog many months ago.

At 10:59 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Mozart, Dumbya,

Who now control the House and Senate?

The Senate Reached A Milestone This Week, Already More Amendments Voted On Than All Of 2014!
…Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell took the time to point out that in three short weeks there have been more votes done this year than in all of 2014 when Senator Harry Reid and the Democrats had control.

The lucky bill to receive the fifteenth vote? The Keystone XL Pipeline bill.

At 11:50 AM, Anonymous Chuck said...

"I am PROUD to be a Liberal Democrat because I care about people more than money. I'd rather MY Taxes go to feed a hungry family than to line the pocket of a billionare, or worse, to make weapons so we can kill brown people more efficiently. "

Mozart, what about the efficiency of the Liberals "War On Poverty"? We have spent over 15 TRILLION on it and poverty is increasing!

Detroit is breeding poverty like many other urban areas that are part of the Liberal Plantation:

Look at the former Michigan Governor 2003 though 2011, Jennifer Mulhern Granholm, whose leadership oversaw a severe economic downturn, skyrocketing unemployment, Detroit’s emerging bankruptcy, and the meltdown of the automotive industry, is now a professor specializing in job growth.

Under Granholm, Michigan’s unemployment rate soared from 6.6 percent at the beginning of Granholm’s term up to 14.2 percent in 2009, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

In fact, Granholm presided over one of the largest economic declines in Michigan history and herself fled the state in search of employment. Michigan, during her tenure, had the distinction of one of the highest unemployment ratings in the nation, one of the highest population declines, and being the only state in the union with negative economic growth.

Imagine that, a clueless Liberal buffoon who helped tank Michigan is now going to teach about job growth. Think she will highlight her leadership of Michigan in her classes LOL LOL? She should highlight her experience as Governor in Michigan of what NOT to do to improve job growth!

At 11:52 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Sore Asshole Chuck is blaming a governor for the Great BUSH RECESSION.

At 12:07 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Who now control the House and Senate?

And what happened LAST time this happened??

Tax cuts for the rich, deregulation for Wall Street, the Patriot Act.

Yeah, "Freedom" to the cult.

At 12:13 PM, Anonymous Chuck said...

Good post Sore Loser,

Without that sick old man with Dementia, Harry Reid, acting as a Dictator blocking bipartisan bills to be voted on in the Senate, America will see if Obama is the "President of No".

It will be good to have a Senate Vote on the Keystone Pipeline even if King Barry vetoes it. Let the Democrats who vote against it be on record for the voters to see for the 2016 election.

At 12:22 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"King Barry" + "Dictator" = Hate, Delusion and mental illness.

Blame Obama for the Bush Recession too, why not?

At 12:22 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Dementia = Reagan

At 12:33 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Sore Asshole "Chuck" may as well add "Kenyan, Marxist, Muslim, Socialist, and Commie to his delusional cult of hate's beliefs.

Anything but a militarist, corporatist, puppet manager of empire. Can't go there, nosiree. Too real.

Maybe he'll "educate" us some more, as long as he's off his meds.

At 1:34 PM, Anonymous Chuck said...

That clueless Liberal buffoon Jennifer Mulhern Granholm, former Governor of Michigan, who oversaw its sinking to the bottom ought to take a class taught by Texas Governor Rick Perry on how to create jobs.

Granholm would be an expert if there was a class on "Worst Governors in American History" or "How to Breed Poverty and Grow Dependent Democratic Low Information Voters Who Want Free Stuff for the Liberal Plantation". Those classes she could effectively teach.

At 3:01 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Ah, more "Education" blaming Granholm for the Great BUSH RECESSION.

Meanwhile, more from wacko-world:

“Without putting any words in my mouth, you can absolutely say that I’m seriously interested,” said Palin, the 2008 vice presidential nominee, in the lobby of the Marriott late Friday night. But in the same conversation, she appeared to downplay her interest, suggesting she is merely keeping her option open.
“It’s not a major story because 2016 really is still far off,” she said of the Palin-for-president talk.

Read more:

Now there's a woman more educated than Granholm? No? How about a woman who didn't quit her governorship? No?

Well, she still has idiots sending money to the "Quitter in Lipstick".

Mental cases.

At 4:21 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Thanks for the kind words Chuck! Based on what Dumbya posted in response to your posts I'd say you touched a raw nerve, make that a Radical Progressive raw nerve.
You can always tell when the truth about liberalism because of Dumbya's reaction. He is predictable, boring, hateful, and rather vile.
Keep up the good work, your posts are exposing the true colors of Dumbya.

Just I predicted, Dumbya couldn't go an entire thread on Tom's blog with blaming GWB.

At 5:20 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Time for Sore Loser to put "Chuck" back in his pants.

At 5:22 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Or is it time for Chuck to put "Sore Loser" back in his pants?


A dickhead, either way.

At 5:35 PM, Anonymous Chuck said...

sore loser,

When the facts are brought out that Michigan's economy is ranked near the bottom and has been that way for years its just too hard for Dave Dubya with his progressive Hope and Change rose colored glasses and radical viewpoints to accept. He will defend out of control incompetent central planning big government till the day he dies. He will attack like a rabid raccoon those who point out the failures of Socialism and how it eventually always runs out of other people's money to spend.

Michigan's economy is near the bottom amongst the States thanks to buffoons like ex Governor Jennifer Mulhern Granholm and the Democrats, with their progressive economic policies, who have destroyed Michigan.

Dave Dubya's replies were all over the place but nowhere near my posts.

His most rabid post, that made me chuckle, pulled in Sarah Palin as though that had some relevance. I am no fan of Sarah Palin but at least Sarah Palin did not tank Alaska the way Jennifer Mulhern Granholm tanked Michigan to the bottom like the Edmund Fitzgerald.

At 5:37 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

So what is a "Radical Progressive" to a fascist hate monger?

Most Americans.
A CNN poll (6/9/14) found 71 percent of the public supporting an increase in the minimum wage, including a majority of Republicans and conservatives. In November, voters in the Republican-leaning states of Arkansas, Nebraska, South Dakota and Alaska passed ballot initiatives to increase the minimum wage by large margins (Huffington Post, 11/4/14).

A HuffPost/YouGov poll (6/20/13) found that 74 percent of the US public supports requiring companies to offer paid sick leave to their employees; paid maternity leave garnered 61 percent approval. In a number of recent polls, the idea of free community college received majority support (The Hill,1/20/15)–one poll found that more Republicans favored the measure than opposed it, rather remarkable given that the idea was only recently popularized by President Obama himself.

The ‘liberal’ label is getting more and more popular

Nothing in Moderation
What if the notion that a large segment of the electorate is made up of moderates who hunger for centrist compromise is illusory? What if ordinary voters are, in many respects, even more extreme in their views than members of Congress?
Two political science graduate students at Berkeley, David E. Broockmanand Douglas J. Ahler, have made a persuasive case that not only are there few voters who are actually centrist or moderate, but that many voters – and on some issues, a majority of voters – are further to the left or right than the congressmen and legislators who represent them.

At 5:38 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Sore Asshole is still is his bubble and doesn't know it.

Ignorance is strength.

At 5:44 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

83% oppose reducing Social Security benefits in order to reduce the nation’s budget deficit.
“Over two thirds of Americans agree that the government has a role in providing a safety net for their personal financial security, including Social Security, Medicare, and protection from fraud.”
Voters overwhelmingly approve of raising the cap on Social Security wages above $106,000 (71% in favor, 21% oppose).
64% oppose spending cuts to Social Security.
70 percent of Americans say “Medicare should continue as it is today, with the government guaranteeing seniors health insurance and making sure that everyone gets the same defined set of benefits.”
76% think government has the responsibility to provide health care coverage to the elderly.
76% support increasing the taxes paid by people who make more than one million dollars a year.
81% support the rights of workers to unionize to negotiate with their employers.
67% support the rights of state employees to unionize.

At 5:45 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Poor Sore Asshole Chuckie, utterly clueless that HE is the radical fringe nut.

At 5:57 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Why does Sore Asshole think Granholm is more relevant than the Quitter in Lipstick?

So he can blame her for the GREAT BUSH RECESSION?

Granholm isn't pretending to be thinking of running for president like the Twit of the Tundra.

Righties just love serial liars and ignorant airheads.

At 7:01 PM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...


Dumbya talks about "moderation".
You want to be the one who asks him what he is moderate about?
You want to ask him what Mozart is moderate about?
You see Chuck, the more facts you post about the Radical Progressive failures, you more hysterical Dumbya and Mozart become.

I could say it's their hysteria that fuels their Radicalism. But I won't.
I could say it's because they live in a Radical Progressive bubble cult. Bit I won't.

Radical Progressives really believe that when the GOP takes control of Congress it doesn't mean the people are rejecting their programs, they believe the GOP cheated, or the voters were suppressed or the voters were stupid.
When the GOP losses however, Progressives give the GOP all kinds of advise. Like you need to become more liberal, you are going to disappear, you are not listening to the people.

Out of the goodness of my heart I'm going to give Racial Progressives some advice.

You need to become more conservative.
You are not listening to what the people are saying.
After losing 80 seats in Congress, you are disappearing!
Your programs are not favored by the majority of voters.
You need to move more to the center.

What's even stranger is Dumbya now wants me to explain to him what is a Radical Progressive? If he had read my posts concerning classical liberalism and it's demise under the assault of Radical Progressiveness he would know. But, hey wait, he commented on my explanation, so why is acting like he doesn't know what I mean?

Can you say deflection?

At 7:14 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

If only the victims had been armed...

At 7:21 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Dumbya now wants me to explain to him what is a Radical Progressive

No, he doesn't. He's not as ignorant as the troll. Most Americans are radical progressives to the nuts of the far Right.

Shown in spades. Evidence provided.

Chuckie, put Sore Loser back in your pants.

At 8:17 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

As always, you can depend on Dumbya to keep it classy.

At 8:21 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Subprime Scandal: We've long suspected the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission wasn't honest in examining events before the meltdown. But an ex-commissioner says the probe was actually a full-blown political cover-up.

In a just-released book, former FCIC member Peter Wallison says that a Democratic Congress worked with the commission's Democratic chairman to whitewash the government's central role in the mortgage debacle. The conspiracy helped protect some of the Democrats' biggest stars from scrutiny and accountability while helping justify the biggest government takeover of the financial sector since the New Deal.

Wallison's sobering, trenchantly written "Hidden in Plain Sight: What Really Caused the World's Worst Financial Crisis and Why It Could Happen Again" reveals that the Democrat-led panel buried key data proving that the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and other federal agencies pushed the housing market over the subprime cliff. The final FCIC report put the blame squarely on Wall Street.

In 2009, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appointed her California pal Phil Angelides, a long-time Democrat operative, to lead the commission. The fix seemed to be in, and Wallison's account of the inner workings of the 10-member body confirms it. Here's what took place during the FCIC's 18-month, $10 million probe:

• Angelides provided no staff to help Wallison and other Republicans interview witnesses, conduct research or draft the report. But commission Democrats were assigned almost 80 staffers to help formulate their single theory that bank risk-taking and greed unleashed by deregulation caused the crisis.

• Angelides never notified Wallison or other commissioners about the hundreds of witnesses he called to testify in closed-door interviews with his staff, denying them the chance to cross-examine the witnesses.

• Staffers failed to put these private witnesses under oath, even though the final report was based almost exclusively on their testimony with little or no documents or data to back up their statements, which simply validated the Democrat narrative.

• Angelides buried evidence revealing that by 2008, three in four high-risk mortgages wound up on the books of HUD-controlled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or agencies such as the Federal Housing Administration. A data-rich memo by former Fannie Mae chief credit officer Ed Pinto proved that government, not the private sector, drove risky lending. But Pinto's research "was never formally made available by the chair or staff to the other members of the FCIC," Wallison writes.

• Angelides withheld the final draft of the report from Wallison and other commissioners until eight days before sending it to the printer, never giving them the time they needed to go over the wording or content of the almost 900-page draft.

• After Wallison filed a 43,000-word dissent, Angelides removed all but 9,000 words of it from the report widely distributed in bookstores.

Angelides effectively censored any hard evidence that the government's housing policies were the predominant cause of the financial crisis. The best-selling report was cooked up from the start.

As a result, Fannie and Freddie, now under full federal control, are back making low down payment loans to low-income borrowers, and the Dodd-Frank-mandated Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is forcing banks to ignore credit risks in the name of affordable housing.

A corrupt investigation led to corrupt reforms. What we need now, in light of Wallison's revelations, is an investigation of the investigation, along with a top-to-bottom review of Dodd-Frank rules. It's necessary that Republicans hold public hearings so Americans will know how they were lied to about the crisis and how they're being led down the garden path.

At 8:39 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Mentally challenged trolls will believe anything: "biggest government takeover of the financial sector"

Good idea, but not real. "Too big to fail" banks seem over the heads of some nitwits.

It's really backwards. Wall Street has taken over the government, would be closer to reality.

Now Republicans are scampering to give Wall Street everything they want.

That should work out well.

Sore Asshole can't comprehend the fact both parties were negligent. The crash happened on who's watch again?

"We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."
- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002
"This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."

- President George W. Bush, December 16, 2003

At 12:36 AM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...

Hey, have you hear the news?

The Republicans have taken 80 seats from the Democrats in two midterm elections and now control both the HOUSE and the Senate!

Not bad for a Party who "hates Americans" is out of touch with Americans and represent only the rich, BIG Corporations, and Wall Street!


At 10:19 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

It is amazing when you think about it, the Republicans were at peak power controlling the House, Senate and the White house. But they still could not stop Harry Reid from crashing the economy, off shoring 10 million jobs and getting us involved in two wars of aggression!

At 1:23 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Mr. James Hansen,

You forget one vital part of history in your statement.
How many democrats voted with the GOP during the time the GOP controlled the House the Senate and the White House?

At 2:04 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

How many democrats voted with the GOP during the time the GOP controlled the House the Senate and the White House?

Ignorance on display.

Clue #1: Patriot Act.

Clue #2: Authorization (after many lies) to commit war crimes by invading Iraq, resulting in over 4,000 American deaths. Eventually including a certain "American Sniper", by PTSD.

Clue #3: Sore Asshole is clueless.

At 2:32 PM, Anonymous Harry said...

No surprise about the response to the fact that the Democrats lied about the cause of the World's Worst Financial Crisis from Radical AmeriKa's favorite anti Kapitalist, class envy idiot Dave Dubya.

Dave Dubya is the type of voter than Jonathon Gruber spoke of i.e. "stupidity of the American voter".

Dave just chugs down the Jim Jones kool-aid served up by the "Leaning Forward" Progressive Liars.

At 2:36 PM, Anonymous JJ said...

BUSH'S FAULT. 6 years and still Bush's fault. Because that's what easier to hear and easy for parrots to learn.

At 3:44 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

Quote of the day:

"Most of the people blaming the Federal Gov't for everything also spent 8 yrs refusing to blame it for anything." - John Fugelsang

At 3:54 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"AmeriKa's favorite anti Kapitalist, class envy idiot Dave Dubya"...coming from a fascist idiot is a compliment.

Funny thing. The stock market has been very good to me this year. Of course knowing when to sell certain stocks had a lot to do with it. Ahh, the good life of a capitalist socialist.

Guess I'll just have to back to the Caribbean to celebrate.

So how's Sore Asshole and his imaginary buddies doing?

At 3:57 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

BUSH'S FAULT. 6 years and still Bush's fault.

Why should racists ever blame a white guy? Obama must have caused the Bush crash and recession.

One more time for the literacy handicapped:

Sore Asshole can't comprehend the fact both parties were negligent. The crash happened on who's watch again?

At 4:38 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Peter Wallison, aka the servant of mammon and obvious gospel according to the far Right, lied that Democrats caused the "Government takeover of Wall Street". Absurd.

What did ol' Pete say back in 2006?

"There are many lenders aggressively competing to make the higher-amount loans, and the GSEs are not doing the job they should for low-income homebuyers.

Fannie and Freddie should do a much better job of providing affordable home financing to a neglected portion of the mortgage market."


At 6:41 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Clinton was in office before Bush, and was very focused on increasing home ownership. The Democrats ran Congress starting in 2007, right as things began to collapse.

This was and is a bipartisan issue.

Obama, Barney Frank and the rest of the Dems openly campaigned against the banks and financial institutions, accusing them of discriminatory/racist lending practices because they did not loan money to people who were viewed as credit risks. This pressure put on the banks back in 2005-2006, coupled with the Dems using the Feds to buy up high-risk loans from these same banks, was the reason that loans were made in the first place.

Does anyone one recall what Maxine Waters/ Barney Franks/Lacy Clay said when GWB wanted to audit/investigate Fanny?

By 2004, all of the elements of the current financial collapse had been in place for several years. The aggressive approach to enforcing the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) started under Bill Clinton in 1998, and the seemingly endless appetite for paper by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had turned massive amounts of bad loans into mortgage-backed securities to spread their cancer throughout the system. In 2004, a year after the Bush administration tried to tighten regulation and oversight on Fannie and Freddie, Congress was told yet again that disaster loomed. The Democratic response is instructive to seeing who really sat back and allowed this collapse to occur.

Through nearly a dozen hearings, we were frankly trying to fix something that wasn’t broke. Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and particularly at Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Franklin Raines. [Raines would barely avoid prosecution for fraud.] M. Waters

I don’t see anything in this report that raises safety and soundness problems. B Frank

This hearing is about the political lynching of Franklin Raines. L. Clay

At 7:02 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...


What you see in Dumbya's knee jerk response is what happens when the truth about the housing collapse is presented, IE:
He blames it on racism!
It is clear to me that as long as the lie called the "Great Bush Recession" is not challenged, the Radical Progressives that control the DNC will continue to wage their war of class envy and faux racism, towards their u goal of "fundamentally changing America".

The Washington Post article that can be linked to by clicking my name, goes further into the results of CRA started in 1998 under Clinton and stops just short of blaming the shattering of the American Dream, for wealthy blacks being due to racism. One comment going so far as to claim that

"When an entire industry colludes to target a specific group to fleece, defraud, lie to, and any other comparable criminal acts, in the exchange of property because of that group's desire to attain the American Dream which can be all consuming, the industry will carefully train its agents to never disclose the facts of the contract except those which trap the buyer into accepting a deal they can't refuse."

Ignoring the fact that the term "industry" he used could be replaced by the word Democrat Party.

What will be worthy to watch is how the Obama Administration address this in it's last two years in power. I look for a major effort to further redistribute wealth.

At 7:15 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

SL, you sure are grasping at straws, the CRA was created in 1977 did not have any part in the sub prime housing collapse of 2008. Here is a little C&P:

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, removed barriers in the market among banks, securities companies and insurance companies, allowing banks to dabble in mortgage loans, mortgage-backed securities, and mortgage insurance.
The act was co-sponsored by Senator Phil Gramm, Representative Jim Leach, and Representative Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. -- all Republicans.
It helped create gigantic, do-everything financial entities that were too big to fail.
Phil Gramm took a prominent role in the banking industry after he left Congress, and in 2005 led the push for banking industry-backed legislation which would have lifted restrictions on predatory lending.
The great majority of bad loans were made by non-bank lenders like Ameriquest, Countrywide, and New Century. They collected points on the loan, and then bundled and sold them off to Goldman Sachs and other securities dealers, often misleadingly stating that they were AAA-rated investments.

Throwing a bunch of Liberal names out there does not change the fact that Republicans were calling all the shots back then.
They fucked up and you are too partisan to admit it.

At 8:19 PM, Anonymous Harry said...

"SL, you sure are grasping at straws, the CRA was created in 1977 did not have any part in the sub prime housing collapse of 2008. Here is a little C&P:"

The CRA was started by Carter to lower established lending standards by banks to encourage more loans to higher risk applicants (hint minorities).

The CRA became more aggressive over the years into forcing banks to make more risky loans.

For many years prior to the CRA, banks did not make these more risky loans.

If the CRA never forced banks to make loans to deadbeats, the subprime housing collapse would not have happened.

To say the CRA had no part is progressive bullshit.

At 8:30 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Gramm-Leach-Bliley...all Republicans.

So one brainwashed indoctrinated idiot can only blame Democrats.

He is a fool and an asshole.

So Bush was helpless? Did the Democrats dictate the agenda? No. But our idiot can only blame Democrats.

And when the GOP had a lock on all branches of the government for six years what did they do again? They started two wars, exploded the debt, gave their owners tax cuts, and led us to recession.

One more time:

What did ol' "Gospel of Wall Street" Pete say back in 2006?

"There are many lenders aggressively competing to make the higher-amount loans, and the GSEs are not doing the job they should for low-income homebuyers.

Fannie and Freddie should do a much better job of providing affordable home financing to a neglected portion of the mortgage market."

Better blame the black guy.

At 10:07 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

The CRA was created in part to force banks from Redlining. Back then banks would take a map and draw a red line around a predominantly black neighborhood. Anyone living in the red zone was not able to get a mortgage even if they could put down 75%

The CRA forced banks to give mortgages to QUALIFIED black people. It tried to put an end to racist banking practices.

To say the CRA forced banks to lend to unqualified people is silly shit.

At 11:41 PM, Anonymous Sore Loser said...

Mr. James Hansen,

Then why were so many loans given to
UNQUALIFIED black people?

Why didn't Jimmy Carter veto the CRA if it was such a bad idea?

Are you simply ignoring the historical facts of how the CRA was abused and misused under Clinton, or did you not know that?

Are you aware of GWB and McCain trying to investigate the malpractice funding being done by Fanny and Freddy under the guise of the CRA but were told "there's no problem here"?

Do you as Dumbya discount the facts presented to you of what Waters, Clay and Frank said bout Fanny, a few years before it failed and had to be bailed out by the tax payer?

Do you realize that if as Dumbya claims CRA was sponsored by Republicans and if as you claim it was done to force banks from racist Redlining, that this fly's in the face of the prevailing Radical Progressive belief that the GOP is a secrete branch of the KKK?

Did you read the investigation showing that banks were forced to give loans to unqualified borrowers? I provided it for you.

What Radical Progressives really want to achieve.
Taxes –

Do you actually believe there is a number, a percentage of wages, that progressives are aiming for?

They want it all. They want the state to control all wealth, and they want all wealth distributed equally, some people being more equal than others.

Voting –

Do you actually believe that progressives are simply fighting for the right for each citizen to vote? They do not want voting. They are pushing for felons to vote, and non-citizens to vote, which would essentially end voting in America forever. Once all voting is locked up by the left, it’s not a vote anymore. That’s the goal, a Saddam Hussein “democracy,” with Kubuki theater election days.

Sex –

Do you actually think that progressives will be content once they’re able to classify gender as a meaningless concept? Next will be the task of rendering age and species meaningless, making every living thing a sexual being, with no stigmas, no shame, no judgment.

Life –

Do you actually think that progressives are anti- capital punishment for any other reason but political? Do you think they are kindly gentle souls who can’t bear to see a living human die? Explain partial birth abortion.

Once progressivism is fully ensconced, many, many people will be executed in a variety of ways for a variety of reasons. Healthcare will be rationed, killing off undesirables, and this will preserve precious resources, Gaia resources.

Freedom of Speech –

Do you actually think progressives are for freedom of speech? Not a day goes by where they aren’t angling to get a radio show shut down, a speaker booted off of campus or a Christian muzzled for saying “hurtful things.” If progressives had dictatorial power there would be wholesale censorship of all thought that is bothersome to the left.

Do you think any of the Radical Progressives who post here will disagree with this or will they simply go for moral equivalency or an homines thereby accepting these as the truth?

At 12:46 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...


Just when you think Sore Loser couldn't get any more ridiculous.

If only he'd take a high school civics course.

But then again it's like I've said before about him.

You can't put a $100 education in a ten cent head.

I guess we just have to keep shaking our heads whenever he posts. So sad.

At 12:48 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I wonder if Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh charge Sore Loser for stealing their material?

At 10:52 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

As predicted, Mozart has used the ad hominen response.
My points are true.

In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States .
In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States .
In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States .
In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States .
In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.
In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US .
In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis .
In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.
As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives was involved in these shootings and murders.

At 12:21 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

In the years spanning 1865 to 2013 Republicans spent most of their time helping little old ladies cross the street and fawning over cute babies in their strollers.
Republicans are surely Gods gift to humanity!

P.S. I will respond to your post of 11:41 later.

At 12:52 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Mr. James Hansen

Yes helping little old ladies is one of the many things the GOP has done since 1865, including it's first President who who fought a war that ended slavery and held the Union of States together, that are worth while.

You see James, the point of my last post was the bit about who it is that has been killing people with guns. Maybe membership to the Democrat Party should now require not being a gun owner. Make it a gun free party.

At 1:41 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

As usual, Sore Loser has used a word he doesn't understand, and has made a list that has no basis in fact or reality. He does not know the political affiliations of the people he listed, but one wonders...


Yeah, we're on to you. Of course we always were.

Sore Loser either forgets or simply cant understand, that the "parties" switched affiliations around 1964 when Pres. Johnson signed the Civil Rights act.

1. A southern CONSERVATIVE killed Lincoln, because the LIBERAL minded Lincoln worked to end slavery, and beat the South in the Civil War.

2. Garfeild was shot by Charles Guiteau, a minister and REPUBLICAN supporter who actually worked to get Garfeild elected, and was angry for not getting credit and a job in the administration. He was certainly not a "Democrat".

3. Why would an ALLEGED "left wing Socialist" (Oswald) want to assasinate a President who had been called " a bleeding heart LIBERAL"? Oswald didn't kill Kennedy. The CIA and big buisiness did after Kennedy threatened to break up the CIA and stop the Vietnam war, which would have cost "defense contractors" BILLIONS over the next decade. He also was about to cut the tax breaks for the oil industry.(George H.W. Bush made his money in oil in Texas,and was in the CIA at the time. Hmmm...) Go figure he was killed in TEXAS. Like 9-11, the "official story" has so many holes in it it's amazing ANYONE bought it.

4. Squeaky Fromme was not a Democrat. She was a Manson nutcase. Manson was a conserative minded bigot who thought Blacks were too stupid to run the world after the race war Manson thought was coming. He felt he'd have to take over. He was a meglomaniac. (Like Dick Cheney)
Sarah Jane Moore was a CHRISTIAN and an FBI informant.

(Interesting note, Gerald Ford's Chiefs of Staff were Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. Ford was also on the Warren Commission which covered up the Real story behind the Kennedy assasination)

5. John Hinkley JR, who attempted to kill Reagan, is the son of a Texas oil man who was close friends with George H.W.Bush, and who worked to get Bush elected in 1980. Hinkley was NOT a "registered Democrat". Oh,and it was in 1981, NOT 1983 that the attempt took place. Like I said, a high school civics course would serve you well.

I'm not going to go through the rest of that nonsense, but Sore Loser, I suggest once again that you should take a simple high school class on the US government and American history. Regurgitatiing Limbaugh word for word is NOT serving you well.

I shot down the first few on your list with 5 minutes of research. Had you done a simple fact check yourself, you wouldn't have made such a fool of yourself.

At 3:03 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Patrick Sherril, ex marine who hated minorities. Doesn't sound like a Democrat.

James HUBERTY went to a JESUIT community college and was convinced that government overregualtion cost him jobs. Doesn't sound like a liberal.

Had any kind of intelligent common sense gun laws been in place, James Pough woiuld never had been able to get the guns he owned and used. The Police never had any idea he'd been ruled mentally unstable. There is no information available on his political affiliation. Limbaugh made it up.

George Hennard was ex Navy and Merchant Marine, who clearly by all accounts, hated women. A family member of one of his victims actually got Geroge W. Bush to EASE restrictions on handguns so more people coould get concealed carry permits, making it EASIER for people like him to aquire weapons. Go figure.

I have speant a little time now fact checking Sore Loser's list, and NO WHERE does it list political affiliation for 90% of the list. HOW DOES SORE LOSER KNOW WHAT POLITICAL PARTY THEY AFFILIATED WITH?

Oh, yeah, Limbaugh said it, so SL has to repeat it.

At 3:38 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Good job, Mozart!

At 4:23 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Why doesn't Sore Asshole source his absurd lies and radical Right Wing propaganda?

Maybe he’d feel stupid quoting the dim bulb Victoria Jackson? Nah.

Fact Check Email was wrong about recent mass killers being liberals

The worst domestic act of terrorism was carried out by a Right Wing Christian and veteran named Tim McVeigh.

Here’s another list list that is factual:

On Aug. 10, 1999 White supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr., fired 70 rounds with an Uzi-type submachine-gun inside the lobby of the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, CA wounding three children, a teenage counselor and an office worker. He then carjacked a woman’s Toyota at gunpoint, dumped it behind a motel and murdered US Postal Worker Joseph Santos with a Glock 9mm handgun.

On July 27, 2008 Former U.S. Army private, Jim David Atkinsson, who hated Democrats, liberals, African Americans and homosexuals, using a Remington Model 48 12-gauge shotgun, murdered two people and injured seven others inside the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN.

The day after Obama’s inauguration, white supremacist Keith Luke went on a killing spree in Brockton, Massachusetts. His goal was to kill as many Jews, blacks and Hispanics as possible. When questioned by investigators, the deranged gunman who had stockpiled hundreds of rounds of ammunition, proclaimed that he was fighting the extinction of the white race.

A little over a month later, Dannie Baker, a former Republican campaign volunteer shot five Chilean immigrants in Florida. Those who knew him said he was obsessed with the fear that illegal immigrants were taking over the country.

In April of 2009, Richard Popalowski, a white supremacist in Pittsburgh, shot and killed three police officers following a domestic disturbance call. He apparently thought that Obama was part of a government conspiracy to seize all guns, and he feared the government would take his guns away.

Later the same month, a Fort Walton Beach Florida man who thought the Obama administration was conspiring against him, shot and murdered two sheriff’s deputies.

On May 31, 2009 Dr. George Tiller was murdered in his own church by a right-wing “pro- life” gun man who decided to express his belief in the sanctity of human life by executing a medical doctor.

Eleven days later a right-wing white supremacist and Holocaust denier walked into the National Holocaust Museum and killed an African-American security guard. Two weeks later, three Neo-Nazis were arrested for bombing a diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona.

On April 20, 2010 a member of the Sovereign Citizen movement was arrested after a failed attempt to take over a Tennessee county courthouse.

Exactly one month later, in West Memphis Arkansas, Sovereign citizens Jerry and Joe Kane murdered two police officers before they themselves were shot and killed in the ensuing shoot out with police.
On July 18, 2010 Byron Williams, an angry unemployed man, was arrested by police after they discovered a car full of weapons and ammunition that he had planned to use to kill progressives. He was on his way to the non-profit Tides Foundation Center, a favorite target of vitriol from Glenn Beck’s radio show.

However, since Sore Asshole is paranoid of liberals with firearms, I’ll let him know I am a well-armed liberal.

So what do you bet he’d want someone to take my guns? LOL!!

At 4:24 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I wonder how much the Republicans pay Sore Asshole to be a full-time troll?

At 5:31 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

This just in:

"CBO: Obamacare 20% cheaper than they projected; *net* +24M people will have health insurance before Obama leaves office."

At 5:38 PM, Anonymous Caprice said...

More disinformation from the Sorest of Losers:

You said Jared Lee Loughner was a registered democrat. Actually, he was registered as an independent. He was anti-government, and he distrusted our currency because it wasn't backed by gold or silver. Sounds more like a Glenn Beck fan to me, rather than a bleeding heart liberal.

But this is typical of commenters like the Sorest of Losers.. They throw crap at walls, and hope it sticks. But it doesn't. It just slides down the wall, and pools at their feet.

At 5:47 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

DD -

No argument really on the whole "who murders more people" issue... Nutjobs abound in every corner of the ideological landscape.

But, to say Tim McVeigh was a "Christian" is a little misleading. Did he claim to be a Christian? Maybe he did - not sure since I haven't researched it. Very possibly he did. But, it is evident, by the standard of Jesus Christ, that he was not a true follower, therefore not truly a Christian. His fruit did not bear witness to that.

And, no argument, that we have a brand of "Christianity" (particularly in America) that aligns itself far more with political ideologies than spiritual truths. Typically, I find these individuals are very surface at best and haven't understood the true ministry, teaching and purpose of Jesus. His true message does not fit comfortably in any political pole to be honest.

At 6:44 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


You’re right about un-Christian “Christians”. Too bad Muslims all too often don’t get the same lenience and benefit of the doubt. Not all Christians are homicidal just as not all Muslims are terrorists. Fanatics only make such insinuations. The list of atrocities committed in the name of religion stains human history with rivers of blood.

The radical Right Wing militia movement claims a Christian identity. Note the racist Christian Identity movement.

George W Bush often wrapped himself in Christianity.

Iraqi Muslims can honestly claim Bush was a Christian terrorist, especially after he said invading Iraq was a “crusade”. Four thousand Americans and untold thousands of Iraqis died.

I say Bush was more a war criminal than a terrorist, but the slaughter results in the same gruesome toll.

As for McVeigh:

Time: Are you religious?

McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

Time: Do you believe in God?

McVeigh: I do believe in a God, yes. But that's as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way [to] alienate themselves from me and that's all they are looking for now.

“Core beliefs” are his words, not mine.

Since the Right insists on calling it “Islamic terrorism”, turnabout is only fair play. Note they oppose “hate crime” but attach Islam to terror. Someone stated calling it “Islamic Terrorism” only helps the terrorists justify their perversion of Islam. I can see the logic of this, but our “war” culture probably won’t.

Many so called Christians agree with McVeigh that “government is the problem” and that it requires “Constitutional remedies”.

Neither McVeigh nor ISIS follow their faith. They filled their heads with their own hate and vicious ideas of “how it should be” and “who is the problem”.

At 6:58 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Looks like Mozart's Obama Care glasses don't come with spell check.


Mozart said "doesn't sound like a liberal".
I used Google, a liberal sounds like this:
"Whine Whine Whine, I want more of other peoples stuff, it's not fair, it's racist. it's racism, blame the rich, blame anyone but us"

"I wonder how much the Republicans pay Sore Asshole to be a full-time troll?"
Not as much as the CPUSA and the Govt Workers Union pays you Dumbya.

WLWT – Warren County and the state of Ohio have filed a lawsuit against the federal government over the Affordable Care Act.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine and Warren County officials announced the lawsuit at a news conference on Monday morning.

“This tax assessment by the Obama Administration is an unprecedented attempt to destroy the balance of authority between the federal government and the states,” DeWine said. “The $5.3 million Ohio is being taxed is money that could be used for education, public safety, and roads and bridges. The states are not the federal government’s tax collectors, and the Obama Administration should refund these illegal taxes immediately.”

ObamaCare, thrown up against the wall and now we are getting to see what sticks.

Sixty percent of job creation in 2014 was caused by the expiration of unemployment benefits, according to a new working paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

In late 2013, a standoff between Republicans and Democrats led to the abrupt expiration of long-term unemployment benefits. Democrats warned that the expiration would have disastrous ramifications, but Republicans had long argued that allowing Americans to collect unemployment benefits for an indefinite period of time provided a disincentive for them to work.

The new new working paper found that the expiration of benefits was responsible for the creation of over 1.8 million jobs. Nearly 1 million of those jobs were created by workers who would have otherwise stayed out of the labor force if unemployment benefits had been extended. Overall, almost 3 million jobs were created in 2014.

Thought for the day.
Al Sharpton is to a Reverend as Captain Crunch is to a sailor.

At 11:25 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"I wonder how much the Republicans pay Sore Asshole to be a full-time troll?"

Not as much as the CPUSA and the Govt Workers Union pays you Dumbya.

Well, if that's true, then the "free market" has decided my honest views have greater value than Sore Asshole's lies in the marketplace of ideas.

...Not to mention that would make me a more successful capitalist.

Any way you look at it, he's a sore loser.

At 4:12 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Jeez, has Sore Loser (Anonymous) EVER had an original thought?

Instead of admitting he repeats everything Limbaugh says (Notice also he never DENIES it)He attacks my typing, mentions my glasses (which I don't have yet as I asked for custom frames)uses MY word for HIS style (whining) and then moves on to another subject.

So now he copies and pasts an article from the Washington Examiner, a conservative rag dedicated to spinning facts into GOP propaganda. What the article leaves out is that nearly HALF of that "60%" were actual retirees, and people who were forced to take low paying jobs after the unumployment was cut off thanks to the GOP who CLEARLY don't want the economy to improve under Obama.

And who knows what his obsession with Al Sharpton is about?

Yes, money that is spent on taxes COULD me used for other things, but Ohio (Like any other Red state) is probably NOT going to spend it on helping poor and middle class people get the healthcare they need, so it's better used in this way. EVERYONE who actually participates in the ACA LOVES IT. The only issue is it doesn't go FAR ENOUGH.

How many times will we have to make a fool of this clown before he realizes we are not buying his (actually Rush Limbaugh's) bullshit?

At 9:44 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

"The list of atrocities committed in the name of religion stains human history with rivers of blood."

Agreed. Exceeded only by the list of atrocities committed in the name of atheistic humanism in the 20th century.

At 10:14 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Atheistic humanism".

Is this what the Right calls fascist and communist dictatorships now? Maybe liberals and progressives too?

All the same to some folks.

At 10:37 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Well, I'm not "the Right" so whatever I say shouldn't be taken as a Rightist point of view. Certainly, whatever Palin seems to be the spokesperson for (other than annoying rambling) is not what I hold to.

And, not sure what you're getting at? I think you know the regimes I'm referring to.

Also, I think there are liberal and "progressive" Christians, though certainly they likely have a different viewpoint on certain social issues. Their idea of what progresses humanity could be different from the garden variety progressive. There is a way to disagree yet not condemn - that is what I try to do.

Clear definitions for progressivism and conservatism are elusive. And usually lead us to think in false dichotomies. I prefer right and wrong, truth and falsehood, good and bad. Those are true dichotomies, at least for those who hold to the possibility of moral absolutes.

At 10:59 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Cory Booker Spoke At Service Honoring MLK At Jersey City Temple, Reminisced About Playing A MLK Speech On His IPad For The Israelis…

In 2009 with his father.

A year BEFORE the Ipad was released.

Fidel Castro Breaks Silence On Diplomatic Deal With Obama Admin: “I Don’t Trust” Them…

I wonder why?

At 11:19 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I think you know the regimes I'm referring to.

Yes, fascist and communist dictatorships. That is what they were/are.

So why the re-branding, if not to conflate a progressive system of Constitutional safety nets for the general welfare and regulation of commerce with totalitarianism?

Humanism is not brutality. Atheism is not tyranny.

The term atheistic humanism, as used in this sense, implies both. Why not be clear and say "undemocratic dictators"?

See my point?

It like calling torture "enhanced interrogation". It is interesting that self-identified Christians support "enhanced interrogation" more than say, atheist humanists.

After the Senate Intelligence Committee released the CIA Torture Report, a poll was conducted by the Washington Post/ABC on the subject.

“Just 39% of white evangelicals believe the CIA’s treatment of detainees amounted to torture, with 53% of white non-evangelical Protestants and 45% of white Catholics agreeing with that statement. Among the non-religious, though, 72% said the treatment amounted to torture.”

Looks like a lot of folks seem to think Jesus is OK with torture, er, "enhanced interrogation" as defined by Dick Cheney.

At 11:26 AM, Anonymous sore loser said...

I here by deny that I quote from Limbaugh, Beck or Fox news.
As I've told you before but with your short memory span it not surprising you've forgotten already,
I rarely listen or watch any of them.

Maybe you can provide me with a list of the 6 papers you claim to read each day? Or are you by not providing their names denying that you read them at all?

You see Mozart, as much as you would like to think that anything a classic liberal says come from a "Conservative rag" you on the other hand are afraid to admit that you read the liberal DNC approved stuff all the while thinking that they are "main stream".

Here's a wake call up for you.

In the last two midterms, the DNC lost 80 seats to the GOP.
Why? Because the majority of Americans are not as Radical Progressive as you are. If that were not so, the election results would have been different. If that were not so, the DNC would run Sanders and or Warren for President in 2016, believing that the majority of Americans were as far left as they are.
But the DNC wont run either of those two because they know the majority of American reject the Radical Progressive agenda that you and the DNC want to put into power.
You see Mozart, the majority of Americans are not atheist, do not favor abortion any time for any reason, do not favor late or partial birth abortions, do no favor govt spying on them, EPA regulations that limit the growth of our economy, higher taxes, more govt regulations, and Obamacare.

If it were not so, the results of the last two mid term elections would have been different. Tje truth. that fact is very hard to spin, isn't it?


At 11:40 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

"Humanism is not brutality."

Agree, to a point.

"Atheism is not tyranny."

Hmmm. Might have to disagree on that one. Atheism, if true, is certainly not tyranny, but just hard truth. If false (which I believe strongly, obviously) then it is most definitely spiritual, psychological and sociological tyranny of the worst sort.

And, yes, religion can and is used the same way.

ANY form of untruth is.

At 12:04 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I here by deny that I quote from Limbaugh, Beck or Fox news.


Yeah, we can trust the guy unwilling to link to his dishonest sources.

As I said, he is a liar.


Your rather broad point on atheism is open to the reverse argument. If there is no God, or one not conforming to church doctrine, then that doctrine is false and becomes tyranny... Christian history and Sharia law show it has done exactly that.

At 12:29 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

From an American:

“If the word of God says stone, based on a heinous violation of humanity, and ISIS or Al Qaeda or anybody else who has the wisdom and integrity to reference that scripture…then yes, I agree with them.”

"Jesus would stone homos."

- Christian Fundamentalist Pastor James David Manning

At 7:07 PM, Anonymous sore loser said...

Dumbya, you have again proven that I can not your fix stupidity .
Or your Radical Progressiveness, which is the same as pathological liar.

Since you listen to Limbaugh so much, maybe you can tell me some of the things he talked about yesterday that I have said here?

What dues do you pay to belong to the Govt Employees Union in MI?

BTW, the GOP has taken 80 seats from the DNC over the last two mid term elections and now control Congress.


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