just say "BENGHAZI"!!!
"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided that they'd go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and....prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."
-An understandably exasperated Hillary Clinton
Forget the fact that sixty people were killed in assaults upon American embassies during the years in which the halfwit from Crawford, Texas was running the government. Forget the fact that one month and six days before September 11, 2001 he was warned in his daily briefing that Osama bin Laden was planning on striking in the United States very soon - and that the First Fool did absolutely nothing to try and prevent it. Forget all of that. Reality is a luxury that a nation filled to the rafters with distracted robots can ill afford.
Oh, and while we're at it, let's all forget the nasty little reality that in the months leading up to September 11, 2012, the Republicans in congress slashed funding on embassy security worldwide. Don't even bring it up, okay?
Just take a look at the damage the GOP is doing to your country. I've said it here too many times to count but I need to repeat myself: Forgive me for sounding like a broken record but that isn't a political party; that's an organized criminal enterprise. Sooner or later the pathetic sheep in this doomed country that try to pass themselves off as an "informed electorate" are going to wake up to that fact. When that happens, I'm afraid that it'll be too late.
Listen to them pretty chimes of doom, baby!
FOR THE RECORD: I'm not beside myself with joy over the idea that - barring scandal or catastrophe - Hillary Clinton will almost certainly be the next president of the United States. Her progressive credentials are less than adequate as far as I'm concerned. I realize that we're centuries overdue for a "Madame President" but the prospect of Ms. Clinton in the Oval Office until the year 2025 is enough to send me tailspinning into a blue funk that will not be easy to recover from. There are a few damned good reasons why I am no longer a Democrat and she is one of those reasons. My only consolation is that the alternatives to Hillary are too vile to even make an attempt at contemplation. I'll learn to live with her I guess. She might even surprise me. Who knows?Of this you can be sure: If something were to happen to Hillary tomorrow; were she to bow out of the race or, God forbid, die - this "controversy" (if that's what you insist upon calling it) would disappear overnight. This is all about politics - nothing more. Can't you smell the elephant shit?
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So sit back, grab a brewski, and enjoy what promises to be the political train-wreck of the year. I'm gonna be loving every minute of this.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
SUGGESTED READING:A Moveable Feast
by Ernest Hemingway
"There is never any ending to Paris and the memory of each person who has lived in it differs from that of any other. We always returned to it no matter who we were or how it was changed or with what difficulties, or ease, it could be reached. Paris was always worth it and you received return for whatever you brought to it. But this is how Paris was in the early days when we were very poor and very happy."
-Ernest Hemingway
This is the closest Hemingway ever came to writing an autobiography. It covers the years he spent in Paris, 1920 to 1926. It was published in 1964, three years after his death from a self-inflicted shotgun blast. At the time his widow, Mary, was unfairly criticized for putting it out. Although not his best book (by far) it adds to our understanding of him, I think.
posted by Tom Degan @ 9:26 AM
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46 Comments:
Mark Thompson on SIRIUS Progressive has turned the word Benghazi into kind of a greeting. He figures that if We start saying it as often as conservatives, it loses it's power. I have been practicing the greeting Heil Benghazi! Because according to conservatives, Benghazi is now like Hitler, right? It has been the only fun I could wring from this propaganda invasion....
edguickLemmaYou wrote: "Their motive is not to get to the "truth" of what happened on September 11, 2012 when our embassy in Libya was attacked and four Americans were killed."
My limited understanding is that this was not an embassy - but a somewhat secret CIA outpost; an interrogation outpost. If this is true, then I can understand why a country as volatile as Libya would be up in arms and want it out of their country - at all costs! Uprising fully justified on their behalf.
To make such an alarming and extremely costly issue out of this is beyond comprehension and reprehensible.
Sorry - the "edguickLemma" in the post was from the code needed to pass into "The Rant". My error.
Well, Tom, I'm still a proud Liberal Democrat. I make no bones about it. Hell, I"m 73 years YOUNG. Frankly, I'd like to see Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren in the VP spot, either one of them is fine by me although I'd like to see Senator Warren get some more seasoning in the Senate so maybe she can run in 2026. Hmmm...
the Licants are an international embarrassment to us. The only good thing that the bastards have done is to teach me how to spell Benghazi!
I really hate totally agreeing with anyone, but I've got to totally agree with you and most of the comments made here. You really do attract intelligent people.
Take care, m'friend and keep fighting!
You said it all, Tom. :)
Experts said there are valid reasons to treat Benghazi differently from the earlier attacks.
"Is Benghazi different? Absolutely," said Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an adjunct assistant professor in Georgetown University’s security studies program.
One reason, he said, is that an American ambassador died in the attack, which hadn’t happened since the 1970s. Another relevant question, Gartenstein-Ross said, "is whether what happened was put to the American people in an honest manner, not just with respect to the administration, but also with respect to the intelligence community."
Gartenstein-Ross added that he wasn’t endorsing "how the Republicans go about" investigating this question. But he did say it’s a "real, legitimate question."
"As always, what causes the problem is not so much what happens, but the response to it," said Theodore R. Bromund, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation. "‘If the administration had come out shortly after the attack and said, ‘Our consulate was attacked by organized Islamist forces, and we will pursue these terrorists and bring them to justice, one way or the other,’ I very much doubt there would be much juice in these hearings, if indeed they were being held at all."
Lance Janda, a military historian at Cameron University, agreed that Benghazi brings up important issues.
"We probably should have had more United States forces on site or at least nearby," he said. And the administration had a "muddled response in terms of releasing information," he added.
Of the attacks listed while Bush was in office, 11 Americans were killed, not 60.
"Of the attacks listed while Bush was in office, 11 Americans were killed, not 60."
What about the 3000 people that died on 9/11?
I think we should bring back Ken Starr out of retirement for a reinvestigation of 9/11 He did such a great job on Whitewater, I am sure he would find out plenty of hidden information.
What about the 3000 people that died on 9/11?
The Righties would rather believe that happened on Clinton's watch. It is called denial. They don't want to discuss it and will continue to ignore the fact it was a Bush Administration failure equal to his war in Iraq.
Together over 7,000 Americans died under Bush's failed leadership.
No wonder they desperately want to blame the Black Guy for the deaths of 4 Americans.
James, don't be silly, friend. Sixty human beings were killed as a result of these attacks. Does the fact that most of them weren't Americans make their murders less palatable to your senses? I know you don't really believe that. I just know it.
"blame the Black Guy"
Good to see race hustler Dave Dubya hasn't forgotten how to play the race card.
Disagree with Obama, it's only because of his race, not his actions. That's the DD MO.
BTW, while we are talking about deaths;
how many black babies were murdered in their mothers wombs by the tools of the abortionist, while Obama has been in office?
It is Chuckie's opinion abortion is murder. Abortion is not murder.
To his question of how many:
There have been less abortions during the Obama years than the Reagan years.
Better blame the black guy for what happened in the '80s, right Chuckie?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/study-abortion-rate-at-lowest-point-since-1973/2014/02/02/8dea007c-8a9b-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html
Oh good - another fight between DD and Chuck... Guys, save us the 47 posts. You don't like each other - we get it.
Harley,
LOL!
Who else is going to answer his "questions" and call out his lies?
Tom, I have no idea what your post meant. I myself regard the deaths of Iraqis as important as Americans. Over one million died in Iraq in a war of unprovoked aggression, a stain on America that will never fade.
Keep up the good work Tom!
As long as all the little people on our Democratic Plantation believe Benghazi was caused by an Internet Video we will be in good shape!
Dave is a race hustler. Race hustlers are disgusting. He is as subtle as being tazed and as gentle as a cattle prod. He is closed minded to any view other than what he and other members of the liberal minority hold. Moral relativity is his sole source of his arguments.
Now regarding Tom's post. If the end of the GOP would be the best thing that could happen to America, and if, as it has been claimed here, on MSBNC and by members of the DNC that to have a special House investigation on Benghazi will ruin the GOP and cost them the NOV elections, then why would any democrat or liberal or both, want to stop them? If what they claim to be true turns out to be true, then what have they got to lose by encouraging the GOP to hold their investigation.
Tom, do you thing we should review the events and actions leading up to the events of 12/07/1941? Lots of Americans died there as the result of a sneak attack.
Blame the Black Guy.
The United States Agency for International Development is planning to spend $24.5 million to circumcise an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 male infants and males aged 10 to 49 in the kingdom of Swaziland by 2018.
The Kingdom of Swaziland has the highest rates of HIV in the world, accounting for 31 percent HIV prevalence among adults, the grant said.
The Obama worshiping pseudo liberal half wit, like this loser Tom h, hates mentioning Benghazi for one simple reason, it reminds people Obama bombed a sovereign nation in Libya. Simple as that, it's not about Benghazi, its about trying to erase the fact that with no congressional vote, their loving "progressive" idol, destroyed an entire civilization and armed terrorists in Libya resulting in the deaths of thousands of black Christian Libyans. This is why the DNC slave like Tom, mocks Benghazi and babbles on about Reagan and Bush. They DO NOT WANT YOU TO REALIZE THE EVILS COMMITTED BY BOMBING LIBYA. Tom is not a liberal, Tom is an Obama worshiping, DNC sperm gobbling, LOSER, not a liberal, a "Democrat". Obama is a war mongering freak and Tom is in total denial. Actil Liberals are repulsed by what Obama did to Libya, Obama slaves bots like Tom, exist to defend a political party and stand for NOTHING. Tom, does not care we bombed Lybia and caused death and destruction. He cares about OBAMA, that is all
Our Mocking Bird said at 12:38 PM that BENGHAZI “reminds people Obama bombed a sovereign nation in Libya.”
As I recall on April 15, 1986 President Reagan sent US airplanes to drop about 60 tons of munitions on Libya.
Like Rip Van Winkle our Mocking Bird seems to have woken up after 28 years and, GADZOOKS, reports that the USA had bombed Libya.
Well, better late than never.
Marxists believe that stealing money from Peter to buy Paul's vote is perfectly OK.
It is not and no great nation/city has ever survived based on legalized larceny.
Detroit in that shithole of a state Michigan is the prime example of too much welfare....
Blame the Black Guy?
In April, Rev. Manuel Sykes was the only official Democratic candidate in the 13 Congressional district in Florida when he received a bullying call from the Pinellas County Democratic chairman telling him to get out of the race in favor of another candidate, a white candidate, Ed Jany. Jany has since dropped out of the race under a cloud of having exaggerated some of his background.
The Chairman made it very clear to Sykes that Democrats thought he stood less of a chance because he was running in an overwhelmingly “white district”. So not only were they being offensive to him, but they were making an offensive judgment about the district in general.
Sykes says the message they were sending was, “stay in your place”, you can represent us locally, but you have no place in Washington. “This is their message”, Sykes said, “We want your vote, but the rest you stay out of”.
FDR took a match and started an ever growing fire of socialism in this country. Obama dumped an Exxon Valdez sized tanker of gasoline on it.
I just watched California Chrome win the Preakness horse race in Baltimore. It really angers me to see the 1 percenter who owns the horse hire and abuse a Mexican jockey who he probably pays only the minimum wage.
If it was up to me, the owner and jockey would be paid the same. That's social justice and that's my vision for AmeriKa.
Alinsky, I think you are full of shit.
It's so much fun to sit back and watch conservatives fall all over themselves to make excuses for Reagan and try to BLAME Obama for everything wrong in the world. They can't even stay on subject because they KNOW they lose this one.
War On Women at the NYTimes?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-17/nyt-publisher-sulzberger-says-abramson-firing-driven-by-conduct.html
"Abramson discovered she was being paid less then her predecessor, Bill Keller, and was fired after confronting Sulzberger about the matter, according to Ken Auletta, media reporter for the New Yorker. Her complaint over what she perceived as pay disparity stood as one of the salient events that led to her dismissal, Auletta reported."
Hey Tommy,
When are you going to have a Rant about how the NYTimes treats its Female employees with regards to pay? Looks like Jill Abramson didn't accept the hush money after being fired and it is getting ugly over there. I wonder what Mother Jones would say about it.
Yeah the GOP "War On Women" LOL. Barry the clown's White House and the NYTimes both underpay women for equal work, what hypocrites. But then liberalism is a mental disease.
Harry Chuckie is blathering idiocy and nonsense again.
Yeah maybe the GOP "War On Women" has partners in a corporatist Administration, a Cheney-parroting war mongering corporate media outlet, corporate America, and a corporatist State.
Con-servatives want a Big Government to monitor every uterus and deny women equal rights of reproductive choice. They are unable to see that this contradicts their “small government” dogma.
Anyone who believes Obama and the NYT are not corporate owned is out of touch with reality. How can they ignore the facts that Obama appointed a telecom corporate lobbyist to the FCC and allows for, and promotes, secret corporate drafted trade agreements? Only fools or the mentally challenged believe this is liberalism.
But then liberalism is a mental disease.
Classic Radical Right Bubble Cult projection from a clueless person who has no idea what liberalism is. But we do know delusional beliefs indicate a “mental disease”.
American con-servative fundamentalists think planet Earth is only six thousand years old. This is delusional.
RRBC Con-servatives believe in ACA death panels, and a Marxist Muslim in the White House. This is delusional
RRBC Con-servatives believe 97% of climate scientists are wrong, and that Rush, the GOP and its oily owners are the experts on climate. This is delusional
RRBC Con-servatives believe the exclusive agenda of the greediest billionaires is what’s best for America. This is delusional.
RRBC Con-servatives believe Obama is to blame for the Benghazi attack. (But Reagan was not accountable for Beirut, and Bush is not accountable for torture, Iraq, and 9-11.)
Mental disease is clinging to delusions that deny reality and overwhelming evidence.
By all objective measures, RRBC con-servatism is a mental illness.
That is a kick ass post, Dave
Is it just me or do Hillary Clinton's eyes look a little cross-eyed after falling and suffering a terrible concussion right after the Benghazi attack?
Good point Dave about the NYT.
Anyone who believes the NYT is not part of the Obama Administration and they are not siamese twins (just like Hugo Chavez and the Venezuelan media) is out of touch with reality.
Watching the NYT implode and eat their own is too damn funny.
Dave, Obama and the FCC is not liberalism, it is Liberal Fascism.
Obama and the FCC is not liberalism, it is Liberal Fascism.
Thank you. That’s a good one, another delusion, of course.
The reality is this is the corporatism where corporate lobbyists “regulate” their corporate pals.
Corporate lobbyists are also writing their interests in trade agreements and legislation of public policy.
They are writing and forming our laws.
This is all good to the RRBC con-servatives, and supported by Republicans everywhere.
Blame the Black Guy
USA TODAY
"Rumors about the demise of U.S. gasoline demand have been greatly exaggerated.
Until late 2013, most energy observers forecast the world's most reliably gas-guzzling market to consume less fuel this year. What was once thought to be a structural decline in demand, however, has proven more durable than expected.
As the summer driving season nears, retail gas remains stubbornly lodged near $4 per gallon. According to the Energy Information Administration, gas prices rose for 12 straight weeks through late April, and were 20 cents a gallon higher than the same point last year.
So what gives?
"The world's not swimming in crude or gasoline yet," said Francisco Blanch, commodities strategist at Bank of America-Merrill Lynch, in an interview. "Despite all the crude and gasoline production in the U.S., international markets are not tagging along."
International developments matter, analysts say, because gas prices are linked to internationally priced Brent crude. Turmoil in Ukraine and spotty supply from the perennially unstable Middle East has conspired to keep oil above $100 per barrel."
What's Bill Clinton's biggest fear about returning to the White House if Hillary wins?
An Intern with braces.
Should we find out how FDR provoked the attack on Pearl Harbor and why he failed to meet the same standards that Bush and Reagan are being held to have prevented the attack?
Chucky and Anomymous have been listening to Limbaugh again.
It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals and medication somehow think we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.
Just look at what a cluster fuk the VA hospitals run by the government are. The administrators have been lying about the statistics for years and the shit is finally hitting the fan. Ain't no surprise about the fake statistics. Just look at the DemocRat clowns and how they put lipstick on that pig ObamaCare.
The president pledged a year ago to send $20,000 of his 2013 salary back to the treasury as a symbolic gesture to furloughed employees
Most of the furloughs never materialized, and Obama's promised salary give-back may also have dissolved with the passage of time
The joint tax return he filed with the first lady shows no indication of a rebate to the Treasury – something he would logically have deducted from his taxable income
Federal law sets the president's salary at $400,000, making it impossible for the president to reduce his pay without writing a check for the balance
Actually, the V.A. system works very well, and has a higher average patient satisfaction than civilian hospitals.
Their current problems are due to an overwhelmed admission system for new patients that still relies on old fashioned folders up to 4" thick to be processed to get a new veteran into the health care system.
Once you're in the system, the care is great, and the services are reliable.
The only place the VA is being accused of basically what sounds criminal is Phoenix AZ. My brother is in the VA system in Portland he get excellent care. Doubtless they saved his life; so don't go blaming the whole VA for what one criminally negligent administrator was doing in Phoenix. For the most part the veterans that I know, who use the VA are very happy with their care. It has been much improved and a lot of that began under Clinton as at one time it was pretty deteriorated. That is not the case today but what happened in Phoenix should lead to felony charges of manslaughter given the loss of life due to the secret lists :(. We owe our vets all the care we promised and hopefully if that means tax increases to cover the damage from a war Republicans wanted, they'll be all for paying for what we claimed we would do. It's the least we can do given how some have suffered due to that war.
Guess you missed the reports about VA hospitals in St. Louis, W.VA, Albuquerque, Atlanta ?
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said the president didn't know about explosive Veterans Administration scandal until he saw news reports
Earlier in the day a report emerged showing the VA itself warned Obama's transition team about it after the 2008 election
Obama and his surrogates have claimed he learned of several other scandals from broadcast or print news stories
They include Operation Fast and Furious, the IRS's targeting of tea parties and a DOJ seizure of two months of Associated Press phone records
VA medical centers stand accused of keeping secret off-the-books waiting lists in order to cook the books and boost performance stats
As many as 40 veterans died in Phoenix when they were denied critical care because their names didn't appear on official waiting lists.
How much more crap will you swallow in an attempt to bolster this abject liar and a failure we have for president?
For the smartest people in the world, liberals and democrats have to be pretty stupid to continue to carry this guys water. m Or is it desperate?
VANCOUVER—Canada’s growing wait times for health care may have contributed to the deaths of 44,273 Canadian women between 1993 and 2009, concludes a new study released today by the Fraser Institute, an independent, non-partisan Canadian public policy think-tank.
The study, The Effect of Wait Times on Mortality in Canada, examines the relationship between mortality rates and lengthy wait times for medically necessary care in Canada. As wait times between referral (from a general practitioner) and treatment increase, finds the study, so does the rate of female mortality.
Gee, where's the RRBC outrage over the lies and liars that sent so many Americans to be maimed in Iraq, who now need the VA?
Don't blame Bush, blame the Black guy of course.
“Fraser Institute, an independent, non-partisan think tank”.
I suppose, if “independent, non-partisan” means a conservative/libertarian/you’re-on-your-own Koch-type “think tank”.
Why on earth would a “Good con-servative” anonymous poster leave out a very significant point from the “study”?
No significant relationship between wait times and male mortality rates was found.
Don’t wait for answers from the RRBC. They can only regurgitate their propaganda.
Whistle blower who works for VA in FLA. now reporting problems with it's single payer govt run non for profit health care program in that State.
Wasn't Senator Obama on the VA Committee before he became President?
Did the Bush people warn Obama of problems with in the VA before he was sworn in?
Or did Obama really just find out about the problems through the media?
Ah Davey,
How many American's were killed under Bush in 8 years vs Obama in 5 years of two warms he promised to end?
Anonymous gets it. Blame the Black guy for the wars Bush started.
"The fact that they will piss away untold millions of taxpayer cash on this kangaroo court or that they are deflecting our attention away from issues that are screaming to be addressed means nothing to these clowns."
What was it that Ken Starr spent on not just Whitewater, but years looking for ANYTHING. I think it was something 3-5 times the money they were willing to spend on the 9/11 cover up fantasy!
Of course Obama won't investigate or prosecute the previous administration for various crimes, bids not tendered awarded to Halliburton and of course Dick and Dummy's favorite pastime, commiting war crimes!
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