Saturday, March 08, 2014

Fixing the Unfixable


Frank Gaffe-ney
The dirty little secret is out: Grover Norquist, one of the architects of the modern-day conservative movement, is an undercover agent for the Muslim Brotherhood. This is according to Frank Gaffney, columnist for the Washington Times and founder of the ultra-right think tank, Center for Security Policy. Norquist, you may recall, is the rabid, anti-taxation advocate, early disciple of Ronald Reagan, and the man who once infamously proclaimed that his dream was to shrink the government down to a size where it could be "drowned in a bathtub". This little tirade on Frank's part was just one of the hundreds of delightful clashes with the real world emanating out of this week's annual CPAC conference. I know what you're thinking and I agree wholeheartedly: It rarely, if ever, gets much nuttier than that. My life is quite amusing. It really is.

A DISCLAIMER:

As I've written on this site too many times to count, I am not a cheerleader for the Democrats. I finally rid myself of that worthless party sixteen years ago - and my life has been much happier because of this, thank you very much. This is a party so spineless and impotent that one wonders if Lyndon Johnson and Jack Kennedy would even recognize it today. Of course not all is lost; there is still some hope - molecular though it may be: People like Sherrod Brown and Elijah Cummings remind me that there is still some fight left in the old donkey. And Elizabeth Warren??? No woman since Audrey Hepburn can make me as week in the knees as she. I adore her.

Liz Warren
The problem with the modern day Democratic party (and it's a HUGE one) is that for every Liz Warren there are at least ten-or-more Chuck Schumers. Any political party with a tired old fuddy duddy like Harry Reid as their leader is in dire need some serious therapy.  

But while there is plenty of reason to despair as far as the Dems are concerned, there are still reasons for optimism. The Republicans, on the other hand, are beyond redemption. On Inauguration Day 2017, one Democratic administration will succeed another one for the first time since 1857. That is not as bold a prediction as it appears. Just take a good look at their "front runners" for the 2016 nomination. 

The Rand Man
About the sanest thing the GOP is able to regurgitate these days is Rand Paul, the man who at last year's CPAC hoot chastised his fellow conservatives for not being right wing enough. That should give you a bit of an idea how bad things have gotten for them. If you think that the 2012 primary contests were a riot of mirth and merriment, hold on to your funny bones. 2016 is going to be a scream! I don't take any amount of pleasure in telling you this....Aw, hell, who am I kidding? I'm lovin' every minute of this. Watching this despicable party disintegrate before my very eyes makes me feel like a little boy on Christmas morning. I never dreamed that my luck could get this good. If this is a dream I don't want to awaken from it. I don't get many days as lovely as this. Please don't rain on my parade. 

Last year I congratulated Chris Christie for not being invited to the 2013 CPAC conferences. The fact that he was not acceptable to these clowns could only help him with Americans who posses an IQ above above room temperature. That was then; this is now. The New Jersey governor now finds himself mired in corruption and legal investigations. All of the sudden he has become a hero to the insanity junkies who plan these things. In twelve short months he's gone from persona non grata to Man of the Hour. Life can be so mysterious, you know?

Whatever you do, try not to take your eyes off this clown show. When any political organization abandons all pretenses at moderation it only spells certain doom. In the 1960s the Nixon gang courted the racists. From 1980 onward the Reagan people invited into the tent the clinically insane. That is how they arrived at their present, pathetic condition. The Republicans are light years beyond the point where they can even make a a half-hearted attempt to "moderate" themselves. To do so would only invite an ideological chasm that would doom it forever. And to think that this was once the place that Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt called "home". Strange days indeed.

The day of the politics of old white guys with beer bellies and bad breath is coming to a merciful end. Deal with it as best you can.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

SUGGESTED READING:

My report of last year's CPAC spectacle:

It still hasn't gotten weird enough for me.

SUGGESTED LISTENING:

Democracy is Coming to the USA
by Leonard Cohan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDSRP3yNPo

Get the fuck out of the way. 

"It's coming to America first
The cradle of the best and the worst...."

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I LOVE IT!

"Sail on! Sail on! Sail on!"

96 Comments:

At 4:10 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

"And Elizabeth Warren??? No woman since Audrey Hepburn can make me as week in the knees as she. I adore her." Tom Degan

Tom, didn't you support Ms. Clinton vs Obama in 2008? Has the bloom left the Hillary rose for you in 2016?

“I let people know about my Native American heritage in a national directory of law school personnel. At some point after I was hired by them, I also provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard” Warren said in a statement. “My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I’m proud of it, and I have been open about it."

"Detailed genealogical investigation by a group of Cherokee genealogists showed that Warren had no Cherokee or other Native American ancestry. The findings are set forth at the blog Thoughts From Polly’s Granddaughter which based the research on over one hundred primary sources, and detailed the findings:

"The team and I have done an exhaustive search on the genealogy of Elizabeth Warren. We have researched ALL of her ancestral lines, but have only posted those she claimed were Indian here in the blog. None of her direct line ancestors are ever shown to be anything other than white, dating back to long before the Trail of Tears.

- See more at: http://elizabethwarrenwiki.org/elizabeth-warren-native-american-cherokee-controversy/#sthash.28G3BfPe.dpuf

Anyone surprised that the great liberal wing nut hope for 2016 is another proven fabricator of the truth? Maybe it was another tribe?

 
At 4:17 PM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

No, I did not support Hillary Clinton in 2008. Further proof that you comment without reading a thing I write. Go to the archives and check the record, Chuckie.

 
At 5:33 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Anyone surprised that the great liberal wing nut hope for 2016 is another proven fabricator of the truth?

Warren was under the impression of Cherokee heritage from an old family newsletter.

She didn't make it up.

The New England Historic Genealogical Society found a family newsletter that alluded to a marriage-license application supposedly listing Warren’s great-great-great grandmother as part Cherokee.

In other words, Chuckie is the "proven fabricator of the truth".

But what's worse is the Cons mockery and racist reaction.

From the Boston Globe:

But the difficulty of seizing on the controversy without crossing into uncomfortable racial territory became apparent Tuesday with the release of a video showing Republican staff members, including an aide in Brown’s Senate office, performing tomahawk chops and war whoops outside one of his campaign events.

Brown said such behavior is “not something I condone,” but declined to apologize.


They never apologize, no matter how racist, wrong-header and nasty they are.

That's more glaring evidence why they are the Party of Hate.

 
At 5:58 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

Great job Dave, defending the honor of one of the few real Liberals in the whole damn country!

 
At 7:13 PM, Anonymous Edith Bunker said...

Tom,

I trust Sarah Palin with the 3:00AM phone call over Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton.

Hillary talks a real big game, but she folded like a cheap suitcase and stuck her head in the sand the night Ambassador Chris Stevens died.

Hillary only looks out for her own (really big) ass!

 
At 12:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah poor baby, she believed something in newsletter. Got proof to support that? Or are just taking her word?

How bout a link showing this family letter.

 
At 8:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something is very wrong, that 7 of the 10 richest counties in America surround Washington DC, a city with no industry to speak of, that produces no marketable products.

It's a city that exists almost exclusively off the sweat and labor of taxpayers in the rest of the country.

Isn't the vastly superior wealth of this parasitic governing class in this country a sign that we are headed toward banana republic status?

Aren't they supposed to be working for us instead of the other way around?

 
At 10:13 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Tom,

I was wrong, you have never support Hillary.
My error regarding that part of my post.
Sorry.

 
At 11:10 AM, Anonymous Smokey Lagumski said...

I am beginning to believe that this piece of legislation (Obamacare) is beyond saving.

Even liberal Democrats in congress are finding it increasingly difficult to defend the thing and they have even given up any hint at trying to hide the fact that the delays are purely political. Many of them now admit that fact.

Obama and his fellow liberal Democrat moronic tools in the congress would be better served to do a “mea-culpa” on this thing, admit it is a gigantic unworkable mess that they passed without one single Republican vote and then work with Republicans to severely amend the thing to get it into some sort of free-market and combined Medicaid workable shape. I don’t think that will happen because of the intransigence of both sets of establishment elites that control the dialog in congress but honestly that is about the only thing that is going to make this thing work.

Delaying this piece of garbage past 2016 is not going to help

 
At 3:24 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Is this a pretense of moderation from DNC supporters?

n the latest development of a more than year-long labor dispute in Vancouver, the National Labor Relations Board has accused picketers of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) Local 4 of a multitude of horrific acts which include violence, threats of rape and implied harm to children, as well as racial slurs toward company security officers.

These acts, according to The Oregonian include the pinning of a security officer’s legs under a moving vehicle, blocking drivers’ vision and causing permanent eye injury to a security officer, reckless pursuit of company vans, as well as threatening a manager’s daughter with rape and “implied threats to harm a manager’s children by telling him they would ‘see his children at school’ and asking, ‘are (his) children okay today?’”

Why isn't Senator "Liz" Warren telling Harry Reid to stop this B.S.?

House Democrats are urging their Senate counterparts to move their bills in the upper chamber this year.

Out of the 195 House-passed bills that are now stalled in the Senate, 31 were written by Democrats, and many have been awaiting Senate approval for close to a year.

Most of these Democratic bills are non-controversial. But House Democrats are stressing the importance of passing them.

GOP House leaders and Senate Democrats have engaged in a back-and-forth blame game on the gridlock in Washington.


Jack Kennedy supported tax cuts, and would not longer fit in or recognize today's Democrat Party as it has moved so far to the radical socialist left.

 
At 4:51 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckie can't tell both sides very well, since he's a blind follower and shill for the rich.

Two years ago, Marcel DeBord, 61, earned the right to call himself a regular "B man," a promotion and prideful place in the world of union dockworkers.

In a nine-month period in 2012, he logged 1,726 hours at United Grain Corp.'s terminal at the Port of Vancouver, driving forklifts and trucks, as well as operating locomotives hauling grain-filled rail cars.

For all of 2013, however, his hours plunged 33 percent to 1,156 hours.

The slashing of his employment — and the resulting impacts on his family's livelihood — began a year ago today, when United Grain locked out up to 44 members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union.


"Shut up while you're getting screwed, you little people" is how he wants it to be. Obey the neo-feudal lords or else...

This is about group punishment for the actions of an individual. Very much in the tradition of authoritarianism.

And why the hell does he think a senator from Nevada or Massachusetts should tell Washington workers what to do?

I'm happy Chuckie wants us to back to the tax rates under JFK. That would be an immense step in the right direction for our country and people. Back then the little guy got more breaks and deductions. Now he gets kicked in the gut and watches his job get off-shored.

But who cares? Chuckie hates the little guy and shills for the greedy servants of mammon. He supports the suppression of labor and democracy so the elites can dictate over our nation.

His side is winning, he should be happy.



 
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At 1:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Dave, Chuckie simply points out the inconsistency's of liberals and democrats. That you can't handle them being told is revealing.

 
At 11:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Union leader says Obamacare attacks the little guy!! Claims it will only make income inequality worse. Says it will threaten the middle class.

A national union (Unite Here) that represents 300,000 low-wage hospitality workers charges in a new report that Obamacare will slam wages, cut hours, limit access to health insurance and worsen the very “income equality” President Obama says he is campaigning to fix.

Does Liz Warren support the ACA? Is she for or against the "little guy"?

 
At 12:34 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Anonymous trolls:

Internet Trolls Are Often Machiavellian Sadists

The research, conducted by Erin Buckels of the University of Manitoba and two colleagues, sought to directly investigate whether people who engage in trolling are characterized by personality traits that fall in the so-called "Dark Tetrad": Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).

It is hard to underplay the results: The study found correlations, sometimes quite significant, between these traits and trolling behavior.


They take delight in repeatedly proving this assessment correct.

And they wonder why they are compared to fascists and sociopaths...

 
At 4:45 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Shoot the messenger so you can ignore the message.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren has a wide range of items on her agenda and the political pull to make them happen, but she insists she is not interested in running for president.

Warren told The New York Times (9/30/2013) twice during an interview that she's not interested in the presidency. Instead, she insisted, she chooses to focus on economic fairness.

Tom, If not Senator Warren, who would you like to see as the Dem. candidate for the Oval Office in 2016? Bernie Sanders?

I could support Senator Joe Manchin of West Virgina in the DNC primary's for President.

 
At 8:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey Tom,

How much Cherokee blood do you think Elizabeth Warren really has?

I don't think she is an honest Indiajan.

 
At 8:34 PM, Anonymous chucky said...

"And they wonder why they are compared to fascists and sociopaths..."

Only liberal fascists would outlaw 32 ounce drinks and try to centrally plan 1/6 of the economy (health care)

 
At 9:19 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Liberal fascists". Chuckie spelled Chucky is warning us of something terrible, so we'd better be afraid, very afraid, like Chucky is.

God help us from the liberal fascists!

Hey, wait a minute, who are these scary guys? Do they even exist? I never heard of a liberal fascist, and I bet nobody outside the crazed Radical Right Bubble Cult (RRBC) has either.

Yeah, take that, you sane folks outside the cult bubble.

Is a "liberal fascist" someone who questions the RRBC's hallowed God of the Free Market and revered Lords of Wall Street?

We do know the "liberal fascist" soda tyrant in the frightened, wild eyes of the indoctrinated cult members, is actually a corporate tycoon and former Republican mayor of New York City.

So who are the other evil masterminds of "liberal fascism", aka public healthcare?

That would be every western democracy but the Corporate States of America.

Yes the crazed Radical Right Bubble Cult (RRBC) instills hatred and fear of not only liberals, but of Canada, Britain, and Europe.

They are taught to never question their God of the Free Market and revered Lords of Wall Street. This is why they shill for a pipeline of toxic crud that benefits only the Koch brothers and China, their lords and the "Good Commies". Yes, they're encouraged to hate American liberals more than Communist Chinese leaders. Can you believe that?

Ever wonder how far out of reality is the crazed Radical Right Bubble Cult (RRBC)?

Their paranoia of a fabricated "Liberal fascism" sums it up nicely. But don't expect to read about it in the fictional "liberal media".





 
At 9:59 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

"Political and intellectual bureaucrats show depression, passivity, and perplexity in their actions and in their statements, and even more so in theoretical reflections to explain how realistic, reasonable, as well as intellectually and even morally worn it is to base state policies on weakness and cowardice. And decline in courage is ironically emphasized by occasional explosions of anger and inflexibility on the part of the same bureaucrats when dealing with weak governments and with countries not supported by anyone, or with currents which cannot offer any resistance. But they get tongue-tied and paralyzed when they deal with powerful governments and threatening forces, with aggressors and international terrorists."

- A. Solzhenitsyn, 1978 Harvard Address


The man was a prophet of sorts - and didn't pull any punches. His 1978 Harvard Address is a must read for anyone (of any stripe) who is interested to hear some uncomfortable truth. When the West thought he'd coming running to them for the answers, he had as much bad news for it as he did for the Communists. If fact, the materialist premise is the same for both - just far different "solutions" and approaches. Brilliant man and one whose thoughts were largely cast off. But he was/is spot on...

 
At 11:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Two buildings have collapsed after an explosion Wednesday morning in East Harlem.

Blame Bush, it's an inside job for sure.

"RRBC's hallowed God of the Free Market" And you would replace the free market with the crap sandwich socialist economy of Venezuela?
No thanks.

 
At 11:40 AM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

They got everything they wanted and more from the first inside job. No need at this time for another inside job.

 
At 1:09 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

And, my above post was intended to be very much on topic of fixing the unfixable... I suggest our guiding cultural philosophy will not lend itself to any "fixes" any time soon from right or left...

 
At 6:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D., Texas) declared the U.S. Constitution to be 400 years old Wednesday on the House floor, which would mean it was signed in 1614.

“Maybe I should offer a good thanks to the distinguished members of the majority, the Republicans, my chairman and others, for giving us an opportunity to have a deliberative constitutional discussion that reinforces the sanctity of this nation and how well it is that we have lasted some 400 years, operating under a constitution that clearly defines what is constitutional and what is not,” she said.

That would be seven years after Jamestown, Virginia became America’s first permanent English settlement.

Lee is off by only 173 years. It was adopted on Sep. 17, 1787.

Rspect.

57 States.

Guam tipping over.

Men have landed on Mars.

AIDS was invented to kill off blacks.

Blame the black guys and gals, for sure!

 
At 12:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Tuesday, President Obama took Air Force One to New York to stop at the Gap in order to flog his case against income inequality. And there, Americans learned he had no idea how to use a credit card machine.

Protector of the "little guy" against the machine.

 
At 12:25 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

It wasn't Bush, those buildings didn't fall straight down into their own footprint, and a building two blocks away didn't collapse for no reason.

 
At 12:27 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Hey anonymous, would you like us to start listing gaffs by conservatives? It will cover several dozen pages but if you REALLY want to play THAT game...

 
At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Burt said...

Yea anonymous, Mozart's right!! Look at the stupid stuff Romney and Palin said about Russia several years ago!

And look at the stupid stuff they said about Obamacare. Like:
The cost of insurance will go up
or
People will lose their jobs or be cut back to part-time because of Obamacare
and
More Americans will lose their health insurance because of Obamacare than will be covered by the law
and when they said
"If you like your doctor, you keep your doctor" was a lie.
and
"If you like your plan, you can keep it" was a lie.
And when the GOP said Obamacare would take money from Medicare, what were they thinking about? That's as bad as claiming there will be death panels regulating who gets medical care and how much care will be provided.
All you have to do is look at the wonderful medical system in Venezuela to see how non of that would happen here.


 
At 12:18 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Harley,

I’m not sure what “Our guiding cultural philosophy” is, apart from greed and selfishness. "Not my brother's keeper" could be the GOP motto. "Shared sacrifice for the little guy" may as well be the Dems' motto. As long as I'm at it, "Might makes right" may as well be the national motto. "In God We Trust", civil liberties, freedom, and human decency have been out of the picture for decades.

Solzhenitsyn had some thought provoking comments, didn’t he?

And now for the Obamacare “horror story” of the week:

Julie Boonstra was featured on FOX(R) and in an ad released by conservative group Americans for Prosperity saying that her new "out-of-pocket costs are so high, it's unaffordable." AFP is largely funded by conservative billionaires Charles and David Koch; their ad targets Rep. Gary Peters (D-MI), who is running for Michigan's soon-to-be open Senate seat, their second such ad in the state.

From the Detroit News:

Boonstra said Monday her new plan she dislikes is the Blue Cross Premier Gold health care plan, which caps patient responsibility for out-of-pocket costs at $5,100 a year, lower than the federal law's maximum of $6,350 a year. It means the new plan will save her at least $1,200 compared with her former insurance plan she preferred that was ended under Obamacare's coverage requirements.

Boonstra's old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year, she previously told The News. It didn't include money she spent on co-pays, prescription drugs and other out-of-pocket expenses.

By contrast, the Blues' plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

When advised of the details of her Blues' plan, Boonstra said the idea that it would be cheaper "can't be true."

"I personally do not believe that," Boonstra said.


Once again, beliefs trump reality on the far Right, Truth be damned! The indoctrination in the Bubble Cult is all about hating liberals, handing over all power to the rich, and, of course, blaming the black guy(s).

You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can't say “nigger” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.” – Lee Atwater (R) Interview with Alexander P. Lamis (8 July 1981), as quoted in The Two-Party South (1984)‎ by Alexander P. Lamis

 
At 5:14 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Here's a start on conservative crazy statements.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/03/13/3400851/sba-fundraiser-abortion/

 
At 7:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mozart,

whats your take on the special election results in FL?
DEM out spent GOP four times, DEM had Clinton and Biden show up in support,
DEM labeled GOP as a radical, etc,
Obama won district last two elections.

GOP was against Obamacare, and the liberal religion of man caused global warming. Should have been a cake walk for the DEM, GOP had no Koch brothers money.
Whats the deal here?

 
At 12:28 AM, Anonymous Burt said...

White voters, “are so evenly divided that every time they vote, the race is so close they have to go back and count the votes all over again. Which means that any bloc, any minority that has a bloc that sticks together is in a strategic position. Either way you go, that’s who gets it.”

Yet Democrats, said Malcolm X, failed to deliver on a promised and much anticipated new civil rights bill, knowing the party could still count on their blind support in the next election.

“You put them first,” said Malcolm X, “and they put you last. ‘Cause you’re a chump. A political chump! … Any time you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you are dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that party — you’re not only a chump but you’re a traitor to your race.”

Malcolm X
remember that when you vote in NOV, don't be a chump, dump the Dems.

 
At 12:38 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Anonymous, I cannot comment on a pack of lies. The GOP has had Koch Bros money for many years now. Man made climate change is REAL as aggreed by 98% of CLIMATOLOGISTS worldwide. Plus, the GOP outspent the DEMS by a great deal in 2012 and Obama smoked Romney. Money cannot always buy an election.


So take your Fox news propaganda someplace else.

 
At 12:39 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

But here's some more conservative quotes for ya.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/01/stupidest-things-republicans-said/

 
At 7:52 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Good points all, Burt. But are you not suggesting that they cast their lot with the Republicans, are you?

 
At 10:36 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Malcolm X

“You put them first, and they put you last. ‘Cause you’re a chump. A political chump! … Any time you throw your weight behind a political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you are dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that party — you’re not only a chump but you’re a traitor to your race.”

Malcolm X’s comment was made before the Civil Rights Act passed.


More from same Malcolm X speech in Detroit, on April 4, 1964

You look at the structure of the government that controls this country; its controlled by 16 senatorial committees and 20 congressional committees. Of the 16 senatorial committees that run the government, 10 of them are in the hands of Southern segregationists. Of the 20 congressional committees that run the government, 12 of them in the are in the hands of Southern segregationists. And they're going to tell you and me that the South lost the war.

You, today, have are in the hands of a government of segregationists, racists, white supremacists who belong to the Democratic party, but disguise themselves as Dixiecrats. A Dixiecrat is nothing but a Democrat. Whoever runs the Democrats is also the father of the Dixiecrats, and the father of all of them is sitting in the White House. I say and I say it again: You got a President whos nothing but a Southern segregationist from the state of Texas.


LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act into law in July 1964 despite the Dixiecrats

Malcolm X was wrong about LBJ and right about the Dixiecrats.
---
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)
--
Vote GOP???

Why would blacks vote for the party that throws up barriers to the voting booth?

Why would the American working class vote for the party who most betrays it?

 
At 11:53 AM, Anonymous Burt said...

Tom,

I'm agreeing with Malcolm X, Blacks should not be chumps and sell their votes to the party who gives them nothing in return. Wouldn't you also agree? The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed were it not for the votes of the GOP. What did FDR do to correct the Black Condition during his time in office and while his Party controlled both the House and Senate?

It has been argued that the first major step since the Civil War for Blacks was Harry S. Truman's ending of desegregation in the military. His reasons for doing may have been from the military needs for manpower to fight in Korea to a real desire to end segregation. Regardless of what his reasons were, it was a positive step in the right direction. Could you agree then, that IKE following the action of Truman, was more aggressive/progressive in fighting racism in America than FDR was in his 12 years in office?

If the GOP started getting 20% of the Black vote, knowing the impact it would have on their chances of winning elections, wouldn't the GOP would be more responsive to the positions of Blacks than the DNC who takes the Black vote for granted? The last time the Democrat candidate for President won the majority of white male voters was when LBJ won. 50 years ago. Knowing this, wouldn't the DNC start taking the Black voter's concerns seriously? Understand, I'm not saying the DNC doesn't take the Black vote seriously, I'm saying they don't the promises they make to the Black voter seriously.

Have the claims and needs of Blacks changed since 1964? I don't think so. The failures in the American Dream for Blacks are the same now as they were in 1964. Yet since 1964, which party have Blacks in over whelming numbers voted for? And what have they got in return? The issues and complaints are the same! They still have the same share of the American Dream Pie. They still face the same problems, if not worse problems, than in 1964.

Has Black unemployment gone down under a Black Democrat President? Have the numbers of Blacks getting food stamps and welfare gone down under a Black Democrat President? Has the number of Black business owners gone up under the Black American President? What has gotten better for Black Americans under a Black DNC President? Even with all of these unchanged conditions facing the Black in America, we have people who can only relate to the actions of the southern DNC. What are the % of Blacks voting to day vs. before 1964? Are Blacks really being prevented from voting today or is that claim just a straw dog to drive the Black into the ungrateful arms of the DNC?

IMHO it boils down to this, if you are really concerned about the progress of Blacks in America, what is more important to you, which party they vote for or what those they elect provide for them when in office in return for their votes? What is there to lose if just 20% of Blacks started voting for the GOP? I would argue that after 50 years of voting Democrat, and getting, as Malcolm X said, nothing in return they have nothing to lose. Stop being a chump.

I also find interesting the DNC treatment of and reaction to Blacks who are GOP. They are treated as badly as Blacks were by the Dixiecrat. Yet there is no outcry of disgust from liberals or Blacks or the DNC. Strange.

"A Dixiecrat is nothing but a Democrat" Malcolm X.

Who was it that said to expect a different outcome while doing the same thing is crazy?

 
At 2:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous, I cannot comment on a pack of lies."
What lies?
Jolly was outspent 4 to one by Sink.
Obama carried the district in 2008 and 2012.
Biden and Clinton both campaigned for Sink.
Jolly ran of repealing or replacing Obamacare
Sink ran on keeping Obamacare but fixing it.
"Democrats hoped Jolly's repeal/replace posture would alienate voters and doom his chances. His victory speaks volumes about how potent a weapon the law can be for Republicans this year." Washington Post.
If man made climate change is fact, then what are the followers of that religion going to do about the planet's largest human polluters, China and India?
BTW this election took place in 2014, not 2012, Jolly is much more Conservative than Romney, and the Tea Party was not a factor in the election.
What does this say about running on Obamacare and the religion of man caused climate change? Does the election say the voters do not want Obamamcare fixed, but they want it repealed or replaced?

These aren't lies but questions that Democrats need to answer in this very important election cycle.


 
At 3:19 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


As Burt faithfully blames the effects of the Great Bush Recession on the black guy, we wait in vain for ONE reason the American working man should vote for Republicans, the party of, by, and for the rich.

Lies:
“Jolly was outspent 4 to one by Sink.”
“These aren't lies”

Truth:
Low voter turnout favors Republicans.
This is why voter suppression is a GOP tactic.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/mar/14/democratic-national-committee/democrats-say-alex-sink-got-outspent-republican-di/

Spending on the race:

Sink: $6,293,406

Jolly: $6,110,790

So we have the Bubble Cult faithfully parroting lies and blame for the black guy...Big news.

Yawn...

 
At 3:25 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

It occurs to me that there are a lot more white chumps voting for the GOP, and against their interests, than there are blacks voting for democrats.

White Chumps can't remember what Bush left us, can they?

Vote GOP for more Bush/GOP Recessions!

 
At 3:57 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Folks, quit blaming people for voting Rep or Dem. They both promise the world and both have abdicated their fiduciary responsibility. The neolibs and neocons have sold us down the river. The black man in America's biggest problem is the same as the white man's - no more statesmen, the Constitution went out the window long ago, we are ignoble and materialistic consumers. That, DD, is our driving cultural philosophy - materialism played out in an unsupportable consumerist mentality. Ethics, duty to God, duty to man all go out the window when man's greatest perceived need is simply material.

The Marxist and the laissez faire capitalist are only a hair's breadth apart at the core.

 
At 6:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Former Florida Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink raised $1.3 million in the last month and a half for the highly competitive March 11 special in Florida’s 13th District.

The Democrat’s whopping fundraising total from Jan. 1 to Feb. 19 doubled that of her Republican opponent, lobbyist David Jolly, who brought in $639,000. Both reports were stocked with donations from members of Congress hoping to add to their respective parties’ ranks ahead of the midterms.

Sink, who has raised more than $2.5 million overall for the race, had $972,000 in cash on hand for the remainder of the campaign, while Jolly was left with $182,000. Pre-special-election fundraising reports were due to the Federal Election Commission on Thursday.

Outside groups have funneled millions of dollars into the race, which is being held to succeed the late Rep. C.W. Bill Young, who died in October.

The National Republican Congressional Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee have each spent more than $1 million seeking to boost their respective candidate into the seat. Other groups such as the Chamber of Commerce, the National Rifle Association, House Majority PAC and others have also spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising in the race.

On Thursday, the League of Conservation Voters and the Sierra Club became the latest outside groups to spend on TV advertising in the race, jointly spending $350,000 on an ad attacking Jolly’s stance on climate change."

"Low voter turnout favors Republicans.
This is why voter suppression is a GOP tactic."

Prove the above or shut up.

Vote GOP for more Bush/GOP Recessions!

Really? Was Black unemployment higher under Carter or Reagan?
Is black unemployment higher since Obama undid the welfare reforms instituted under Clinton or lower?
Are more blacks unemployed today after 5 years of Obama then there were in the 5th year of Bush?

Don't be a chump.

Malcolm X

It occurs to me that there are a lot more white chumps voting for the GOP, and against their interests, than there are black CHUMPS voting for democrats. After 50 years it's still in the black voters best interest to vote the Democrat ticket?

Based on what improvement?

 
At 8:31 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Harley,

I'm with you, buddy.

Meanwhile from the Radical Right Bubble Cult, we STILL wait in vain for ONE reason the American working man should vote for Republicans, the party of, by, and for the rich.

Prove the above or shut up.

These facts are well known outside the RRBC. My but you come across and the uncivil, bossy, entitled sort.

Thank you for further proof of the radical Right Authoritarian personality of your cult.

So who's raking it in at record levels? Could it be those who are most "represented" by "free speech" money for the two corporatist parties?

The rest of us are the chumps, sport. Or would you care to admit that Obama, like a good corporatist, has been very good for the rich?

Bet you're too indoctrinated and too chicken to admit it.

 
At 9:30 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

While we’re waiting for our RRBC Authoritarian to give us one good reason to vote for republicans, we can see how they want to take us backwards.

House Republicans Want To Sue The President For Not Arresting People For Marijuana

They’ll stop at nothing less than a neo-feudalism of lords and serfs. “The poor are too rich and the rich are too poor” is the core of their entire economic philosophy.

Vote GOP for our next depression!

 
At 12:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"House Republicans Want To Sue The President For Not Arresting People For Marijuana"

Hey Chump, what does the Presidential oath of office say about up holding the laws of the country? You know the oath every President takes when they are sworn in.

 
At 12:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow look what happens to the little guy under Obama's EPA.

All Andy Johnson wanted to do was build a stock pond on his sprawling eight-acre Wyoming farm. He and his wife Katie spent hours constructing it, filling it with crystal-clear water, and bringing in brook and brown trout, ducks and geese. It was a place where his horses could drink and graze, and a private playground for his three children.

But instead of enjoying the fruits of his labor, the Wyoming welder says he was harangued by the federal government, stuck in what he calls a petty power play by the Environmental Protection Agency. He claims the agency is now threatening him with civil and criminal penalties – including the threat of a $75,000-a-day fine.

 
At 12:18 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"admit that Obama, like a good corporatist, has been very good for the rich?"

Does this mean I get to blame the black guy?

I wasn't a Chump, I didn't vote for him either time.

 
At 9:10 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Does the Authoritarian mean this oath?

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Nothing about waging an expensive, futile and cruel war on drugs.

What does the Authoritarian chump version of the oath say? Someone better go ask his Bubble Cult leaders about that.

Does the Authoritarian want to blame the black guy for the rich getting all the trickle up wealth?

Still no answer. Why not? What's the problem with that one? Are the poor still too rich and rich still too poor?

I wasn't a Chump,

The famous desperate words of sputtering chumps.

 
At 9:28 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

So the Authoritarians want Obama to overrule state laws, eh?

Whatever happened to their precious "states' rights" dogma?

Oh, that's right, the black guy is under their arbitrary shifting standards of course. Like the trickle up wealth. They don't want to blame the black guy for that, do they?

Harley,

I thought you'd like this quote:

“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” --Frederic Bastiat

 
At 11:10 AM, Anonymous Extreme WingNut and Proud of It said...

To all the rabid, foaming at the mouth Koch brother haters here on this blog:

As far as I can tell, the Koch's aren't asking for government favors at our expense, unlike the crony crapitalists to whom the Democrats are happy to sell favors, like to Terry McAuliffe (now governor of VA) who got government favors while working in banks, Global Crossing, and GreenTech Automotive. Also, the Democrats show hypocrisy regarding all the union money (most of it from government employee unions) they take which make the Koch's contributions look like peanuts.

The big problem for the marxist Progressives is that the Kochs only engage in free speech to promote freedom, and less government, while the Democrats want to engage in selling favors for campaign cash (or other favors), for which they need the ability of government to "regulate" (control is a more accurate work) commerce, so they can extract money from it.

In spite of their rhetoric Democrats are the party of the 1% rich, who sell favors for campaign cash. Take Solyndra for example. George Kaiser, a billionaire, bundled about $125,000 for Obama and got $500 million of our money for Solyndra, which he then used to pay himself back with a profit and then declare bankruptcy.

 
At 11:25 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Proud Nut:
As far as I can tell...is about as far as the "liberals are commies" indoctrination from the RRBC allows.

 
At 11:37 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Extreme WingNut and Proud

Well said but you are wasting your time.
Notice the replies to these questions:

Has Black unemployment gone down under a Black Democrat President? Have the numbers of Blacks getting food stamps and welfare gone down under a Black Democrat President? Has the number of Black business owners gone up under the Black American President? What has gotten better for Black Americans under a Black DNC President?


Really? Was Black unemployment higher under Carter or Reagan?
Is black unemployment higher since Obama undid the welfare reforms instituted under Clinton or lower?
Are more blacks unemployed today after 5 years of Obama then there were in the 5th year of Bush?

I'll save you straining your eyes, there is no response.
BUT, there are a lot words like;
Authoritarians
corporatist
Great Bush Recession
trickle up wealth
Bubble Cult
neo-feudalism of lords and serfs
Corporate States of America

that Dave will use to deflect from having to face the truth that life for Blacks was better under Reagan and Bush that it is under Obama. The irony is that by pointing this truth out results in his advise to blame the black guy, the claim that you are a racist or fascist or both, that you have called him a "commie" and you only hate the poor and love the rich, (overlooking the reverse position he takes) for starters. You could bet your last dollar that when facing the truth, Dave will use all of these and more as a tactic to prevent having to face reality.

But the best part is when he calls you a chicken for not answering his questions, while at the same time ignoring (as Mozart did @12:38 AM) the truth you are tryng to get him to see and face.
But the best part is when he does his chicken imitation for you. Bet it makes all liberals embarrassed to know that he calls himself a liberal.

 
At 11:38 AM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Proud Nut

Did I call it or what?

 
At 2:08 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Proud nuts think liberals are commies, don't they Chuckie?

Chicken Chuckie whines: Notice the replies to these questions

As Chicken Chuckie continues to ignore these simple questions:

Does the Authoritarian want to blame the black guy for the rich getting all the trickle up wealth?

So the Authoritarians want Obama to overrule state laws, eh?

Whatever happened to their precious "states' rights" dogma?

Who's raking it in at record levels, Chuckie?

Who's responsible for the Bush Recession, Chuckie?

What is one good reason for the working man to vote for the Party of the Rich?

Complete list of answers from Chicken Chuckie the authoritarian Troll:

1. (Crickets)

Nothing.

Still waiting.

Bwaack!

life for Blacks was better under Reagan and Bush that it is under Obama.

Since when was Chuckie ever concerned about conditions for blacks?

We note Chuckie conveniently ignores the guy in office before his “Decider” had the White House stolen for him.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Unemployment rate left by Clinton in 2000: - 4%

Unemployment rate left by Bush 2009 – 9.3%

So Chuckie wants some answers? Right.

Actually, the black unemployment rate is lower now than when Obama took office, and the gap between the races is below the historical average.

Under Obama, black unemployment reached a high of 16.8 percent in March 2010 and dropped to a low of 12.5 percent in November — lower than the 12.7 percent rate when Obama took office. That wasn’t the case for two of his recent predecessors, Reagan and Bush.

Under Reagan, the black unemployment rate went up a full percentage point from 14.6 percent in January 1981 to 15.6 percent in November 1985 — even as the white unemployment rate fell from 6.7 percent to 5.9 percent.

Under Bush, the rates went up for both blacks and whites. But it went up faster for blacks, from 8.2 percent in January 2001 to 10.6 percent in November 2005 — the biggest increase in the black unemployment rate of any of the four presidents at that point in their second terms.


Chicken Chuckie doesn’t want any answers not given in his RRBC. He’s programmed by his cult to deny ALL information not sanctioned by his authoritarian cult leaders.

Gee, will Chicken Chuckie return the courtesy and answer my questions”

Bwaack!

LOL!!!

 
At 5:00 PM, Anonymous Extreme WingNut and Proud of It said...

Now that it kind of looks foolish to still blame Obama's failed Presidency on Bush, the new strawmen of the loonball left are the Koch brothers.

I'll start caring about the alleged corrupting influence of Koch money when Harry Reid starts caring about the corrupting influence of SEIU, AFSCME, NEA, UAW, IBEW, AFL/CIO and union money.

Wake me my marxist friend Dave Dubya when that happens.

 
At 5:43 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

You mean blame Obama's failed Presidency on Bush's disastrous wars, debt, crony capitalism, financial collapse, and deep recession?

Yeah, that's pretty tough for one guy to fix, isn't it?

And the poor, poor, persecuted Koch Brothers... They're the real victims, right? Oh, the humanity!

Well, my good Proud Nut, how about you tell us of all the pro-union legislation that has been passed, and then compare that to the pro-corporate legislation. Hint: ACA is a big one.

Care to wager on the winners of that corruption game? Betcha 10,000 bucks I can. Get it? That's an aristocrat joke I got from Willard "Haircut" Mittens.

Have you heard about the secret corporate written trade agreement being hashed out as we speak?

That's OK, we really don't expect much from the Radical Right Bubble Cult members who fail to see big Money influence as corruption, and obviously don't understand liberals, while believing they're commies. And of course they are mandated to ignore GOP failures, as they are programmed to regard liberals as the scapegoats for the failures of their precious corporate Reich.

What's truly scary is you are PROUD of that ignorance and hateful scapegoating. Never mind your indoctrination and propaganda is debunked readily. It just reinforces your hate, doesn't it?

Reminds me of a certain previous Reich.

But cheer up, sport. Your side is winning. The servants of mammon are raking it in at record levels, as they promote austerity for the rest of us.

You should be celebrating instead of red-baiting like a fascist.

Radical Right Authoritarians just can't help it though, can they?





 
At 6:48 PM, Blogger Chuck Morre said...

Extreme WingNut and Proud

Under Reagan Unemployment reduced from 7.6% to 5.5% and the unemployment rate for black Americans dropped from 21% to 11.5%. But under Mr. Obama, it has increased by 42 percent.

Black teenage unemployment fell by 16 percent under Reagan, but has risen by 56 percent under Mr. Obama.

The increase in unemployment rates has been far worse for blacks under Mr. Obama than for whites and Hispanics.

Under G.W. Bush, the economy grew for 35 consecutive months. And black unemployment reached a low of 7.9 percent.

Under Obama black unemployment has been as high as 16.7% but never lower than 12%. This even thought the recession was officially over in June of 2009.

Congressional Black Caucus leader admit they remain silent regarding black unemployment under Obama – but that they’d be intensely going after a white president

“Look, as the chair of the [Congressional] Black Caucus I’ve got to tell you, we are always hesitant to criticize the president. With 14 percent [black] unemployment if we had a white president we’d be marching around the White House. [...] The president [Obama] knows we are going to act in deference to him in a way we wouldn’t to someone white.” [A]nd as much as I love Sen. Clinton, [were she president instead of Obama], I would have been all over her on 14 percent unemployment for African Americans. I would have said, ‘My sister, I love you, but this has got to go.’”

Congressman Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO), interview in The Root, September 17, 2012.

Democrats can not win a national election if they get less that 95% of the black vote. This is what Malcolm X was talking about when he said voting for the same Party and in effect putting the same party into power year after year was being a CHUMP. Is this really voting for one's best interest with these results?

Note Davey's near nervous breakdown from these facts being made known.
Watch as Davey wraps his head in duct tape to keep his head from exploding at the very idea that this information could spread to black Chumps.

 
At 7:20 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Under G.W. Bush, the economy grew for 35 consecutive months.

And then what happened, Chicken Chuckie? More crickets?

Unemployment rate left by Clinton in 2000: - 4%

Unemployment rate left by Bush 2009 – 9.3% and climbing.

Better ignore those facts too.

Under Obama, black unemployment reached a high of 16.8 percent in March 2010 and dropped to a low of 12.5 percent in November — lower than the 12.7 percent rate when Obama took office.

And black unemployment reached a low of 7.9 percent.

And then what happened, Chicken Chuckie?

Bush left blacks with 12.7% and climbing, didn't he Chicken Chuckie?

So why should white chumps vote for Republicans?

Crickets...

Chuckie's cult indoctrination and moral cowardice won't let him answer.

Run, run from the truth, Chuckie.


 
At 9:27 PM, Anonymous C huck Morre said...

Say Davie, you want to know what happened?

Under Clinton, the GOP took control of the House for the 1st time in forty years, that's what happened.
(remember the House banking scandal and welfare reform?)

Under GW Bush the DEMOCRATS took control of the House and Senate, that's what happened. Followed then by Obama (I know, don't blame the black guy) becoming President. That's what happened, CHUMP.

Based on your post about what the President is sworn to uphold, are you saying the President is above the law of the land? That he doesn't have to obey laws?
I agree with you that this President (can I blame the black guy on this or would it make me a racist?) believes that and is ruling in the tradition of authoritarianism. HIP HIP Hurray, we agree on something Wavy Chump Davey!

Union leader says Obamacare attacks the little guy!! Claims it will only make income inequality worse. Says it will threaten the middle class. Are blacks better now than they were in the 5th year of GWB? Are Blacks better off now that they were after the Carter Recession was brought to an end by Reagan? Has income equality better now than it was in the 5th year of GWB?

Tough thing to think about CHUMP, but I'm sure you'll graze right over them with another post of name calling. We know how you defect, Wavy CHUMP Davey! Vote the same party back in like the past 50 years and think the results will be different.

 
At 10:23 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckie,
Still Chicken to answer questions, we see.

Spare us your Bubble Cult Blather. We all know the facts. Sheeesh.

Such as this misleading crap:

Under GW Bush the DEMOCRATS took control of the House and Senate

Never mind spineless Dems followed Bush to war like sheep.

Show us how many times those all-powerful Dems overrode a Bush veto and dictated public policy....

Well?

How about those probing congressional investigations into Bush's torture and deceptions used to take us to war?

Well?

How about showing us where the Democratic House voted 50 times to repeal a Bush law?

Well?

Yeah, we thought so.

Your authoritarian arrogance and blind ideology really forces you to believe we are idiots. Man, that's a lot of bigotry and hate.

SO... who's raking in record wealth?

Clearly, they are not the chumps here.

The chumps are the voters who believe in either the Democratic or Republican party.

That makes you a chump, son.

Really. In every sense. While you see blacks as chumps, you are utterly blind to the fact you are even more of one.

Some of us happen to have our eyes open to the corporate/government beast. Some of us understand the corruption of big money as "free speech" in elections, politics, and government.

Chumps like you are the clueless true believers. And like little fascists, you hate, demonize and scapegoat anyone who disagrees with your Bubble Cult.

Yeah, those are some "con-servative" values ya got there, sport.

Oh, and on a final note, thank you for the perfect authoritarian projection:

Tough thing to think about CHUMP, but I'm sure you'll graze right over them with another post of name calling.

Ah, maybe, if I'm hungry. But do I have to shout by capitalizing any name calling, like you do?

LOL!!!

Oh, by the way, I like "Wavy Davey". It reminds me of a very cool guy and some darn good ice cream.

"Wavy Davey and Chicken Chuckie". Sounds like a good comedy act.

 
At 1:23 AM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Wavy CHUMP Davey
If you have such little regard for the DEMs why do you defend them so much? You are a CHUMP just like Malcolm X said you are if you still vote for the DEMS.

Got a little bi-polar problem going on there ya in Eastern Michigan?

 
At 9:39 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Chuckie, Chuckie, Chuckie,

I defend the truth and what's left of our democracy, not the Democratic Party. How often have I said both parties are corrupt and corporatist? Anybody but fanatics and fools such as yourself would notice the terms, "spineless" and "corpo-dems" scattered throughout my remarks.

YOU on the other hand are nothing but a malicious authoritarian troll. You are a total shill, and chump, for the party of the rich.

This is not name calling, it fits your behavior. You need to do your best to paint a rosy picture of our worst president who left us in deep recession, financial collapse, and the resulting destructive effects on working class Americans. And who's raking it in? What kind of chump ignores all that and defends the party of, by, and for the rich?

That would be you, sport.

Why should working class Americans vote GOP anyway? You've given no reason, only hate for those who disagree.

What really makes you repugnant is your moral cowardice, exhibited by your refusal to answer questions and engage in good faith discussion.

You dump crap and run away, just like a chicken.

Now run along back to your red-baiting and distracting, as you MUST do to conform in your hateful RRBC.

Blame the black for the Great Bush Recession and decline of our middle class. And be a good little fascist; blame and scapegoat all who disagree with your radical cult.

As a radical Right authoritarian, it's all you can do.


 
At 11:28 AM, Anonymous Malcolm X said...

"The Negro revolution is controlled by foxy white liberals, by the Government itself. But the Black Revolution is controlled only by God."

I agree with Chuck, Dave Dubya is a chump!

 
At 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why should working class Americans vote GOP anyway?

Better questions are

why do liberals hate the rich?
why do liberals fear the rich?
why do liberals want GOvt to control a person's spending?
why do liberals not want the poor to move up in class?
why do liberals define class the same way as Marx?
why do liberals support programs that have increased income inequality?
why do liberals use the same vocabulary as Marx?
why do liberals refuse to talk about conditions in the workers paradise of Venezuela?
why do liberals want the policy's of Venezuela put in place here?
why do liberals ignore that the most Unionized work force are those employed by Govt?
why do liberals policy's inhibit growth of the middle class?


 
At 1:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF GOP VOTER SUPPRESSION!

While the Obama Justice Department mounts a legal challenge against Florida for purging ineligible voters from its rolls, a television news station broadcasts an unbelievable segment that proves non U.S. citizens living in the Sunshine State vote regularly in elections.

The investigative piece was aired this week by an NBC affiliate in southwest Florida that actually tracked down and interviewed non U.S. citizens who are registered to vote and have cast ballots in numerous elections. The segment focused on Lee County, which has a population of about 620,000 and Collier County with a population of around 322,000. The reporter spent about two months digging around the voter rolls in the two counties and the discoveries are dumbfounding.

In that short time, more than 100 people registered to vote in those two areas were proven to be ineligible by the reporter. A Cape Coral woman, eligible to vote in elections, was tracked down through jury excusal forms that verify she’s not a U.S. citizen. A Naples woman, who is not a U.S. citizen either, voted six times in 11 years without being detected by authorities. A Jamaican man is also registered to vote though he’s not eligible. The reporter obtained his 2007 voter registration form, which shows the Jamaican man claims to be a U.S. citizen. Problem is, no one bothers checking to see if applicants are being truthful.

PROBABLY NO CONNECTION TO THE ABOVE, RIGHT?

President Barack Obama may further reduce the small percentage of illegal immigrants who are sent home each year, say advocates for immigrants and would-be immigrants.

Obama “has charged his Secretary of Homeland Security… to reduce where they can the levels of deportation,” Janet Murguia, president of the major Latino ethnic lobby group, the National Council of la Raza.

“Our hope and expectation is with that [policy change] would come some reduction in the level of deportations,” she told reporters gathered outside the White House Friday evening.

The reduction could be as high as 50 percent, depending on how much Obama is willing to change agency rules, Marielena Hincapie, executive director of the National Immigration Law Center, told The Daily Caller.

DNC GEARING UP FOR THE 2014 ELECTIONS!

 
At 4:25 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

More senseless hateful gibberish from Chicken Chuckie: Better questions are...nowhere to be found from trolls who obviously do not understand anything about liberals.

Note the fascistic red-baiting, demonizing and scapegoating by his sheer hate and ignorance.

Exactly as I predicted.

And still...we wait for ONE reason for the working American to vote GOP, the party of, by, and for the rich.

Only an indoctrinated radical Right wing wacko would conclude that supporting government of by and for the people as "hating the rich".

Want to talk vote suppression?

So a two month investigation found LESS than a hundred non U.S. citizens who are registered to vote in a population of over half a million. Wow. And of those, how many actually voted? They show less than 10. And what would voter ID at the polls do about that? Why, nothing of course.

Meanwhile eligible voters purged by Republicans in Florida number in the thousands.

"In the 2000 Florida election, at least 1,100 eligible voters were wrongly dropped from voting rolls in an attempt to purge a list of felons. Many of those who were dropped showed up to vote and were told they could not."
Bill Nelson on Tuesday, May 29th, 2012 in letter to Gov. Rick Scott


http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jun/05/bill-nelson/bill-nelson-compares-rick-scotts-voter-purge-2000-/

That is a war on democracy and vote suppression. Fascists LOVE it.

A close examination suggests thousands of voters may have lost their right to vote based on a flaw-ridden list that included purported “felons” provided by a private firm with tight Republican ties.

Early in the year, the company, ChoicePoint, gave Florida officials a list with the names of 8,000 ex-felons to “scrub” from their list of voters. But it turns out none on the list were guilty of felonies, only misdemeanors. The company acknowledged the error, and blamed it on the original source of the list — the state of Texas.

Florida officials moved to put those falsely accused by Texas back on voter rolls before the election. Nevertheless, the large number of errors uncovered in individual counties suggests that thousands of eligible voters may have been turned away at the polls.

Florida is the only state that pays a private company that promises to “cleanse” voter rolls.


http://www.salon.com/2000/12/04/voter_file/

Bush “won” Florida by 537 votes. Mission Accomplished, democracy suppressed.

But the enemies of democracy have infected many states:

In Virginia: Democrats filed an injunction to prevent anyone from being delisted. But the board still managed to purge more than 38,000 names.

In Chesterfield County, Registrar Lawrence C. Haake III filed his own affidavit in the legal battle after he conducted a review and found almost 10% of the people flagged by the elections board were eligible voters.


http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/eligible-voters-among-thousands-purged-from-voter-rolls-by-virginia-election-officials-131020?news=851442

So we have maybe 10 non-citizens who voted versus THOUSANDS wrongfully purged by the anti-democracy forces of tyranny.

So is this the reason to vote GOP? War on democracy?

Looks like all they got.

If they don't like being compared to fascists, they should stop acting like fascists.

Cowardly fascists at that.

Bwaack, buck, buck.

 
At 4:27 PM, Anonymous Ellen said...

Those who dared to question the lack of peer review with Global Warming (now conveniently called "Climate Change" since the "scientific" data for Global Warming was fudged, just google "east anglia hockey stick") were vilified as infidels.

Now anyone who dares to live their religions principles by refusing to blindly accept abortion or gay marriage or any other ideal held up by the Obama Pop Culture Police is attacked.

Liberals truly are the least free people I know. Dare to be different and they crucify you.

 
At 4:31 PM, Anonymous Lyndon B. Johnson said...

“The difference between liberals and cannibals is that cannibals don’t eat their friends and family members.”

 
At 4:39 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Dare to be different and they crucify you....

Said the Nazi of the Jew.

If they don't like being compared to fascists, they should stop acting like fascists.

That'll be the day. They are what they are.

 
At 4:49 PM, Anonymous Maureen Down from the Mother Ship NYT said...

"With the health care sign-up period coming to an end this month, Democrats in Congress are looking over at the White House and realizing that the president is not only incapable of saving them, but he looks like a big anchor tied around their necks."

LOL Marxist Progs. Tommy in Fixing the Unfixable, were you talking about ObamaCare that is 100% owned by the DemoCrats (Remember when King Obama said "We Won")?

 
At 5:08 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Marxist Progs", said the anti-democracy, authoritarian fascist troll.

If they don't like being compared to fascists, they should stop acting like fascists.

That'll be the day. They are what they are.

 
At 5:26 PM, Anonymous Just Some NYT not Faux News said...

From the marxist progs mothership, the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/16/us/politics/obama-factor-adds-to-fears-of-democrats.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

"Interviews with more than two dozen Democratic members of Congress, state party officials and strategists revealed a new urgency about the need to address the party’s prospects.

One Democratic lawmaker, who asked not to be identified, said Mr. Obama was becoming “poisonous” to the party’s candidates.

At the same time, Democrats are pressing senior aides to Mr. Obama for help from the political network."

When the NYT prints articles like this flat out blaming the black guy, you know the Dems are really crapping their pants now.

The People (excluding the freeloaders), who pay for the "free" stuff, know that those behind ObamaCare are fu*king liars!

 
At 6:01 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"From the marxist progs" says the "Mein Kampf" inspired fascist.

He's talking about the same New York Times that parroted the Bush/Cheney lies about WMD's in Iraq.

The RRBC is so wacked out they believe most Americans are commies for disagreeing with their anti-democracy party of the rich, by the rich and for the rich.

If they don't like being compared to fascists, they should stop acting like fascists.

That'll be the day. They are what they are.

 
At 6:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Bush “won” Florida by 537 votes. Mission Accomplished, democracy suppressed."

ahh, have you forgotten Kennedy in 1960 and Cook County IL?
Or precincts in PA where 100% or the votes were cast for Obama?
Could it be that those precincts were totally made up of what Malcolm X called CHUMPS?

What statements have conservatives made on this blog that would allow you to compare them to fascists?

Why do liberals use the langue of Marxism in describing those who they disagree with?

Why are you defending Obama again if he is a corporatist?

Why is it voter suppression to require the same thing to vote as it does to check out a public library book, fly on an airplane, cash a check, get an abortion, sign up for welfare or Social Security? Would you cash the personal check or lend someone money who didn't have ID to prove to you who they were? It would be stupid to do these things without proper ID. But it's smart to allow a person to vote without ID?
Only a CHUMP would agree with that.

 
At 8:12 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Note how the authoritarian demands answers to his questions while NEVER answering any in return.

We can count on it. Nice guys, huh?

This is the double standard of the authoritarian personality. They virtually reek of this arrogance and superiority complex. It's the core character, and indoctrination, of radical right authoritarians.

Now for some comedy.

What statements have conservatives made on this blog that would allow you to compare them to fascists?

The authoritarian radical Right neo-fascist unwittingly answers this with his next question.

Why do liberals use the langue of Marxism in describing those who they disagree with?

Now watch him get mad and call me a commie again.

If they don't like being compared to fascists, they should stop acting like fascists.

That'll be the day. They are what they are.

 
At 8:15 PM, Anonymous Can't Fix the Unfixable ObamaCare, Repeal It! said...

Obama, Pelosi and Reid lied to the American people.

Even the low information voters who elected Obama twice recognize a blatant lie when they hear one.

The last two years of Obama's term will be consumed by his confronting a Republican Congress hell bent on obstructing any further Marxist transformation.

 
At 8:27 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

a Republican Congress hell bent on obstructing any further Marxist transformation....

Declares the fascist authoritarian.

Everybody against the radical Right is a "Marxist". Same with Hitler.


If they don't like being compared to fascists, they should stop acting like fascists.

That'll be the day. They are what they are.

 
At 10:28 PM, Anonymous James Hansen said...

"any further Marxist transformation".

I do not think Karl Marx and Obama have much in common, he does look more like a Conservative Corporatist though. In fact he has nominated four far right wing Conservative judges for high ranking judicial posts in S.C.

It would make you look a little more intelligent if you did some reading about politics before you comment in a political forum. Just making shit up does not fly when you are talking to informed Liberals.

 
At 10:47 PM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Thank you for that, James. Just what a lot of people need to hear.

 
At 2:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you dont want to be called a commie, stop talking like one.

 
At 8:54 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

You're very loose in labeling people as "commies". I'll bet you can't even define one.

Go ahead.

 
At 9:50 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Tom,
As we've seen, they can't, and refuse to, even understand liberals. Obviously they couldn't define a communist, as they believe everyone outside their extremist dogma is a commie.

This is why they cannot answer questions or enter good faith discussion. They can only antagonize and spew hate.

The RRBC members are very much like the Moonie cult, under the Bush family friend and Republican founder of the Washington Times, Sun Myung Moon.

All those outside the Moonie cult are seen as under Satan's control, while those outside the RRBC are "commies", or more generously, "chumps".

OF course the Radical Right Bubble Cult is more dangerous.

Their hate is as clear as their ignorance.

They are Right wing fanatics and would follow their authoritarian leaders into another Holocaust, purging liberals as their scapegoats like the Nazis did to Jews.

Make no mistake. They are that hateful and deluded. And that is exactly how fascism insinuates itself in a society.

American corporatism with its legions of fascistic true believers are the real threats to democracy and the well being of the American people. They love war and hate their fellow Americans. They don't need a majority to do their damage either. History has shown us that.

 
At 11:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. advocacy of a classless society in which private ownership has been abolished and the means of production and subsistence belong to the community
2. any social, economic, or political movement or doctrine aimed at achieving such a society
3. see also socialism a political movement based upon the writings of Marx that considers history in terms of CLASS conflict and revolutionary struggle, resulting eventually in the victory of the proletariat and the establishment of a SOCIALIST order based on public ownership of the means of production

"any leftist political activity or thought, esp when considered to be subversive"
World English Dictionary

socialist realism:
a Marxist-inspired artistic and literary theory or doctrine that calls on art and literature to promote the socialist cause and sees the artist, writer, etc. as a servant of the state or, in the words of Stalin, “the engineer of human souls.”

The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name “Forward!” or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called “Forward (generic name of socialist publications).”

“The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications,” the online encyclopedia explains.

Vladimir Lenin founded the publication “Vpered” (the Russian word for “forward”) in 1905. Soviet propaganda film-maker Dziga Vertov made a documentary whose title is sometimes translated as “Forward, Soviet”.


 
At 11:44 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

And there we have it.

To these simplistic Schmucks, "Forward" is an operative commie word. I guess that would mean "backwards" is their operative word.

They won't be happy until we have a return to feudalism.

So has anyone here advocated banning private property or demanded government run means of production? Didn't think so.

These delusional fanatic authoritarians are a threat to democracy.

 
At 11:47 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I wonder if any of the RRBC would be kind enough to explain how the wealthy elites keep getting richer by "trickle up" redistribution of wealth, under a Marxist president.

Crickets.

 
At 1:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quoting Yuri N. Maltsev, a MD in the former failed socialist communist USSR,
"In 1918, the Soviet Union became the first country to promise universal "cradle-to-grave" healthcare coverage, to be accomplished through the complete socialization of medicine. The "right to health" became a "constitutional right" of Soviet citizens.

The proclaimed advantages of this system were that it would "reduce costs" and eliminate the "waste" that stemmed from "unnecessary duplication and parallelism" — i.e., competition.

These goals were similar to the ones declared by Mr. Obama and Ms. Pelosi — attractive and humane goals of universal coverage and low costs. What's not to like?

At the end of the socialist experiment, the official infant-mortality rate in Russia was more than 2.5 times as high as in the United States and more than 5 times that of Japan. The rate of 24.5 deaths per 1,000 live births was questioned recently by several deputies to the Russian Parliament, who claim that it is 7 times higher than in the United States. This would make the Russian death rate 55 compared to the US rate of 8.1 per 1,000 live births.

Britain pioneered in developing kidney-dialysis technology, and yet the country has one of the lowest dialysis rates in the world. The Brookings Institution (hardly a supporter of free markets) found that every year 7,000 Britons in need of hip replacements, between 4,000 and 20,000 in need of coronary bypass surgery, and some 10,000 to 15,000 in need of cancer chemotherapy are denied medical attention in Britain.

Age discrimination is particularly apparent in all government-run or heavily regulated systems of healthcare. In Russia, patients over 60 are considered worthless parasites and those over 70 are often denied even elementary forms of healthcare.

In Canada, the population is divided into three age groups in terms of their access to healthcare: those below 45, those 45–65, and those over 65. Needless to say, the first group, which could be called the "active taxpayers," enjoys priority treatment.

Now we in the United States are being prepared for discrimination in treatment of the elderly when it comes to healthcare. Ezekiel Emanuel is director of the Clinical Bioethics Department at the US National Institutes of Health and an architect of Obama's healthcare-reform plan.

Emanuel has written that health services should not be guaranteed to

"individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."

An equally troubling article, coauthored by Emanuel, appeared in the medical journal The Lancet in January 2009. The authors write that

"unlike allocation [of healthcare] by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years. Treating 65-year-olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not."

Socialized medical systems have not served to raise general health or living standards anywhere. In fact, both analytical reasoning and empirical evidence point to the opposite conclusion. But the dismal failure of socialized medicine to raise people's health and longevity has not affected its appeal for politicians, administrators, and their intellectual servants in search of absolute power and total control."

 
At 2:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the communist party support and want single payer health care like liberals d?

President Obama’s new health-care law is a “historic victory” that can lead to socialized medicine and “single-payer” health-care legislation, boasted Juan Lopez, chairman of the Communist Party USA in Northern California.

“The signing into law of the new health care reform package has all the earmarks of a historic victory in more ways than one,” wrote Lopez in a recent article in People’s World, the official publication of the Communist Party USA. 04/06/2010

Recommendations found on Communist Party USA website

Come out strongly for and campaign for single payer. Take up Obama's challenge made in the State of the Union to give him better ideas for health care reform.
Reinstitute the use of Communist Plus and refer comrades to Comrade Gus Hall's words on this.
Reestablish an active commission for Party education with emphasis on ideology.

The Communist Party USA has endorsed Barack Obama for re-election as President of the United States, according to an article at World Net Daily.
Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama's re-election bid.
In Webb's view, the Democratic Party is closer to his ideal than the Republican Party. "Millions who have to be at the core of this party still operate under the umbrella of the Democratic Party, albeit increasingly in an independent fashion."
The Communist Party USA is openly supporting Democrats in the midterm elections.

More than that, if the CPUSA website is correct, they are actively collaborating with the Democratic National Committee and other groups such as the AFL-CIO, and the President's own group Organizing for America.

In May, the radical Service Employees International Union (SEIU), marched with Communists in Los Angeles, carrying Communist banners:

Does the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) - the organization that gave $28 million to Barack Obama's Presidential campaign - support communism?

Apparently so, for on May 1 - the day known as the traditional International Workers' Day - thousands of union members, communists, anarchists, socialists and radicals supporting everything from open borders and amnesty to gay rights, marched in Los Angeles.

No one should be surprised that Communists support Obama - the President himself has openly called for redistribution of wealth, a central theme of Marxism. In his book, Dreams from My Father, Obama admitted seeking out and befriending the most radical Marxists he could find:

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."

In practically every speech, Obama talks about his redistributionist policies, falsely claiming that wealthy wage earners do not pay "thier fair share" of taxes despite the actual statistics from his own Treasury Department.

If you dont want to be called a commie, maybe you should review who your allies are in your support for single payer health care.



 
At 2:27 PM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

"The Communist Party USA has endorsed Barack Obama for re-election as President of the United States, according to an article at World Net Daily."

According to whom?

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

And, yet, Obama is at the head of a US government actively advocating for a group of wealthy oligarchs to usurp the will of millions of Russians. And has Kerry running around making all sorts of ridiculous threats... and few Repubs have any problem with it.

Don't add up does it? Things are not always what they seem. Things are about to get [more] interesting...

 
At 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,
This good enough for you? According the the CPUSA themselves, that's who. I'm disappointed/surprised that you didn't have already know of the Communist Party USA's endorsement of Obama in both his elections.

"Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). It’s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama. It claims to have about 2,000 members."

factcheck.org

Marxist John Case, who writes for various CPUSA publications, has written a piece, “The danger of a Romney election,” for the party publication People’s World, which warns that “Re-electing Obama is not sufficient to bring economic recovery or even relief to our people. Only a different class configuration in political power can do necessary minimum reforms to give us a chance. But re-electing Obama is absolutely essential. Now is not the time for hand washing the complexities and tactics away—or failing to triage the most critical questions from those that are less critical. We cannot win everything at once!”

In reality, the CPUSA’s endorsement of Obama for a second term is not surprising. Various CPUSA officials, including Jarvis Tyner and Joelle Fishman, have openly expressed support for the U.S. President and his agenda.

Since 1988, the CPUSA has not run its own candidates for president and vice-president, preferring instead to work through the Democratic Party. Its support for Obama in 2008 and again this year(2012) has been open and outspoken.

From CPUSA website in article titled "Why Vote?
The huge voter surge in 2008 elected Barack Obama, the first African American president. In the face of non-stop opposition, he pushed through:

Affordable Health Care Act extends coverage to 35 million uninsured people, outlaws denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions and extends until age 26 coverage of children under their parents [sic] plans.
Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act for equal pay for women.
Stabilized the economy with $789 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act that saved or created 3 million jobs. Invested billions in clean energy jobs, saved the auto industry.
Unemployment benefits for millions of workers despite Republican threats to shut down the government. Obama was forced to yield on Bush-era tax cuts for the rich that he wanted to terminate.
Appointed two women to the U.S. Supreme Court, including the first Latina woman, who support the rights of working people.
Established the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and used a recess-appointment to name the director over Republican opposition.
Created a new food safety agency to protect people from food-borne illness.
Ended profit-grab by private banks on students [sic] loans, reestablishing Federal control on these loans and used the savings to extend loans to more students.
Doubled the funding for Pell Grants to $32 billion, increasing size of the grant $819 to a maximum of $5,500.
Ended the war in Iraq and moved toward ending the war in Afghanistan.

Are you ok with the CPUSA using the Democrat Party in the way they have described?

 
At 4:57 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Harley,
advocating for a group of wealthy oligarchs to usurp the will of millions of Russians

Just like here. This isn't communism, it's rule by divine right of wealth.

Are you ok with the CPUSA using the Democrat Party in the way they have described?

Chuckie typically has it backwards. If anything, the Democratic Party is using the CPUSA as chumps. In the game of lessor of evils, evil will win.

Remember who the chumps are? Those like Chuckie who have unquestioning loyalty and support for one of the two corporatist parties.

Now for some facts that are ignored by the RRBC:

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/


Life Expectancy:

Iceland: 80.8

Finland: 79.1

Sweden: 81

Norway: 80.1

Italy: 80.3

Greece: 79.8

Denmark: 78.5

France: 81.1

Germany: 79.4

Belgium: 79.4

Netherlands: 79.6

Spain: 81.1

Switzerland: 81

Cuba: 77.6

Canada: 81.3

USA: 78.2

=======

Infant Mortality Rate Per Thousand, 2010:

Iceland: 1.6

Finland: 2.4

Sweden: 2.3

Norway: 2.8

Italy: 3.1

Greece: 3.2

Denmark: 3.3

France: 3.4

Germany: 3.4

Belgium: 3.5

Netherlands: 3.8

Spain: 3.9

Switzerland: 4.1

Cuba: 4.6

Canada: 5.2

USA: 6.5

All the RRBC cares about is it's worse in Russia.

Socialized medicine in the West is a success compared to the greed based system in the US.

Sorry, Chuckie, you lose again.

 
At 5:01 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully.

It didn't work. Obama's a sellout to corporatism.

 
At 11:10 PM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Dave,

It was a yes or no question.
Are you ok with the CPUSA using the Democrat Party in the way they have described?

I didn't make that up, I quoted what the CPUSA said. When you read what the CPUSA has said about the Democrats, can you understand why your crying that you are being called a commie seems a bit stupid? Your claim that you are using the CPUSA is just as stupid. Can you see that?

What exactly is it that you have against the rich? Do you believe there should be no rich, that all should have the same amount of money? What do you call the political belief that there should be no rich and every one should make the same wage?

I will address your health figures by quoting from DR. Yuri N. Maltsev from the former USSR Communist Socialist failure.

"To improve the statistics concerning the numbers of people dying within the system, patients were routinely shoved out the door before taking their last breath.

At the end of the socialist experiment, the official infant-mortality rate in Russia was more than 2.5 times as high as in the United States and more than 5 times that of Japan. The rate of 24.5 deaths per 1,000 live births was questioned recently by several deputies to the Russian Parliament, who claim that it is 7 times higher than in the United States. This would make the Russian death rate 55 compared to the US rate of 8.1 per 1,000 live births.

Having said that, I should make it clear that the United States has one of the highest rates of the industrialized world ONLY because it counts all dead infants, including premature babies, which is where most of the fatalities occur.

Most countries do not count premature-infant deaths. Some don't count any deaths that occur in the first 72 hours. Some countries don't even count any deaths from the first two weeks of life. (PLEASE READ THIS NEXT SENTENCE OUT LOUD) In Cuba, which boasts a very low infant-mortality rate, infants are only registered when they are several months old, thereby leaving out of the official statistics all infant deaths that take place within the first several months of life.

Even today, according to the State Statistics Committee, the average life expectancy for Russian men is less than 59 years — 58 years and 11 months — while that for Russian women is 72 years. The combined figure is 65 years and three months. By comparison, the average life span for men in the United States is 73 years and for women 79 years. In the United States, life expectancy at birth for the total population has reached an all-time American high of 77.5 years, up from 49.2 years just a century ago. The Russian life expectancy at birth is 12 years lower

In the rural regions of Karakalpakia, Sakha, Chechnya, Kalmykia, and Ingushetia, the infant mortality rate is close to 100 per 1,000 births, putting these regions in the same category as Angola, Chad, and Bangladesh.

The appalling quality of service is not simply characteristic of "barbarous" Russia and other Eastern European nations: it is a direct result of the government monopoly on healthcare and it can happen in any country. In "civilized" England, for example, the waiting list for surgeries is nearly 800,000 out of a population of 55 million. State-of-the-art equipment is nonexistent in most British hospitals. In England, only 10 percent of the healthcare spending is derived from private sources."

 
At 12:11 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Chuckie,

You're still copy and pasting the same babbling about Russia, purposefully distracting from the life expectancy rates of socialized health care in western democracies.

You lost the argument.

From your radical fringe view the US Constitution is a commie rag designed to "promote and provide for the general welfare".

Never mind that principle has stood through our laws and sustained by the Supreme Court.

If America is too "Constitutionally Communist" for you, please leave, and let us civilize out nation without you and your cult. We'd all be happier.

You're proving once again why you cannot understand liberals, or little else outside your Bubble Cult:

When you read what the CPUSA has said about the Democrats, can you understand why your crying that you are being called a commie seems a bit stupid? Your claim that you are using the CPUSA is just as stupid. Can you see that?

Nobody but you sees that, sport.

And we all bet you can't see this either: "So has anyone here advocated banning private property or demanded government run means of production? Didn't think so."

Want to know what stupid is? To the entire sane and informed world, calling liberals commies is seen as stupid. It is hate. It is false. It is RRBC indoctrinated scapegoating.

Now look at your deliberately deceptive words:

Your claim that you are using the CPUSA is just as stupid. Can you see that?

What we all can see is you are unbelievably stupid and dishonest, to say I claim to be using the CPUSA.

You have long lost the debate due to complete detachment from reality.

And we know you will dishonestly deny that fact, even to yourself. It is what you are. Any lie is used to reinforce your hate.

Just....Like....a....fascist.

 
At 12:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Davw,

And you are blindly still believing what your Commissars tell you what is the truth.

 
At 1:06 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Commissars". LOL! These crackpot RRBC nuts are funny.

But seriously, commissars? Not me, I get MY instructions directly from the Marxist death panels.

And we have our eyes on all you paranoid, fearful, angry, little "real Americans".

Watch out for those black helicopters, sport. The dreaded Red Menace is hovering over your head, AND under your bed.

Mwaaahhh, haaa, haaa!

 

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