Malice in Blunderland
"I am not a bully."
-Chris Christie
The
Chris Christie scandal has me perplexed. He is many things - good and
bad. Here is one thing he is not: Stupid. As you may know by now, I am
not in the habit of coming to the defense of Republican politicians, but I
need to say something here: If this were Governor Rick Perry or
Governor Rick Scott or Governor Sarah Palin (before she walked out of
the job) - or most Republican governors across this country - I would
have no problem believing this. I find it almost impossible to
comprehend that someone as politically astute as he seems to be would
involve himself in something as petty as this. Time will tell.
Watching him during that press conference the other day, adamantly denying that he had anything to do with the closing of the lanes leading onto the George Washington Bridge in Fort Lee, New Jersey had me thinking that either this man has all the facts on his side - or he is the most reckless liar to come down the pike since Dick Nixon forty years ago. At this point in time I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If there is even a slither of tangible evidence linking him to this - be it in the form of emails or the testimony of his staff - it's only a matter of time before it comes out. I cannot believe that he would be this dumb. We shall see what we shall see.
What amuses me more than anything about this entire affair is how the talking heads are speculating that this incident might very well mean the end of his alleged quest for the White House. Are these people paying any attention? Chris Christie's chances at winning the GOP nomination in two years are about as good as mine. There is no way that the halfwits in the South and Midwest who now control that party are ever going to give the nod to a Northeastern Catholic/moderate with a vowel at the end of his name. Just put it out of your mind.
We'll know more as the weeks transpire. If I were a resident of the Garden State I would not have voted for Chris Christie either time he ran for the governor's mansion. I would never cast my vote for him if he made a run for the White House. But if this Republican - one of the very last living members of that disgusting party for whom I have even a modicum of respect and admiration - could stupidly let himself get involved in something this cheap and vindictive, then abandon all hope for them.
Isn't politics just oodles of fun?
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Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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You'll Never Walk Alone
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Oscar Hammerstein was the greatest lyricist in the history of American musical theater. The man was a poet who spoke to the soul. Here is Frank Sinatra's 1963 cover of the song he composed with Richard Rodgers from the musical Carousel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUOqI8X29I
I'm sending this little gem out to four cherished friends whom I love very much.
-Chris Christie
The
Chris Christie scandal has me perplexed. He is many things - good and
bad. Here is one thing he is not: Stupid. As you may know by now, I am
not in the habit of coming to the defense of Republican politicians, but I
need to say something here: If this were Governor Rick Perry or
Governor Rick Scott or Governor Sarah Palin (before she walked out of
the job) - or most Republican governors across this country - I would
have no problem believing this. I find it almost impossible to
comprehend that someone as politically astute as he seems to be would
involve himself in something as petty as this. Time will tell.Watching him during that press conference the other day, adamantly denying that he had anything to do with the closing of the lanes leading onto the George Washington Bridge in Fort Lee, New Jersey had me thinking that either this man has all the facts on his side - or he is the most reckless liar to come down the pike since Dick Nixon forty years ago. At this point in time I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If there is even a slither of tangible evidence linking him to this - be it in the form of emails or the testimony of his staff - it's only a matter of time before it comes out. I cannot believe that he would be this dumb. We shall see what we shall see.
What amuses me more than anything about this entire affair is how the talking heads are speculating that this incident might very well mean the end of his alleged quest for the White House. Are these people paying any attention? Chris Christie's chances at winning the GOP nomination in two years are about as good as mine. There is no way that the halfwits in the South and Midwest who now control that party are ever going to give the nod to a Northeastern Catholic/moderate with a vowel at the end of his name. Just put it out of your mind.
We'll know more as the weeks transpire. If I were a resident of the Garden State I would not have voted for Chris Christie either time he ran for the governor's mansion. I would never cast my vote for him if he made a run for the White House. But if this Republican - one of the very last living members of that disgusting party for whom I have even a modicum of respect and admiration - could stupidly let himself get involved in something this cheap and vindictive, then abandon all hope for them.
Isn't politics just oodles of fun?
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Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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You'll Never Walk Alone
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Oscar Hammerstein was the greatest lyricist in the history of American musical theater. The man was a poet who spoke to the soul. Here is Frank Sinatra's 1963 cover of the song he composed with Richard Rodgers from the musical Carousel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sUOqI8X29I
I'm sending this little gem out to four cherished friends whom I love very much.
posted by Tom Degan @ 7:58 AM
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85 Comments:
In any case, Christie hires authoritarian, vindictive goons as underlings.
That alone should be a red flag.
If you listened carefully to CC's rants about his unknowing knowing you'd hear him say sarcastically he was participating in placing the cones. (Which he wasn't BTW.)
This says to me he was active in the process - and if he was - why didn't he ask "Why?" like so many others who were directed involved?
Tom, let none of be so blind to believe he had nothing (that is; absolutely NOTHING) to do with this "get even".
It is idiotic, sophomoric, expensive, and something that any honest public official would not have participated. But, this is New Jersey!
Amazing, CC uses the Obama method for shedding blame and it doesn't work.
"The Obama metho9d for spreading blame"? Please explain what you mean....If you can.
"Shedding" blame, "I didn't know" about Benghazi being a terrorist attack, the Justice Department’s subpoenas for the Associated Press, the ACA website roll out problems, IRS & NSA abuse's, Fast and Furious, that under OBAMACARE you really wouldn't be able to keep you prior plan if you liked it, that you wouldn't be able to keep your DR if you wanted to, Obama "just found out” about whatever is in the news when the rest of America did.
The Sargent Schultz excuse "I know nothing" isn't working for CC, like it has for Obama.
Anonymous turning yet another blog into a rant about Obama aside, I think CHristie knew full well that this was going on. I also think it happens everywhere all the time. That does NOT mean I condone it, but this stinks of someone in the GOP realizing that this "moderate" Republican is not playing the game, and has to go.
Mozart, I think Obama also knew full well what was going on.
What is the difference between what CC or BHO have done? Is it only that liberals are willing to overlook the President's actions and but not any Republican's?
Ask yourself this, Tom said that "There is no chance that the halfwits in the South and Midwest who now control that party are ever going to give the nod to a Northeastern Catholic/moderate with a vowel at the end of his name." What are the chances that liberals would ever vote for that same person?
Liberals, who elected BHO twice, now claim that he is a corporatist not a liberal. Yet they voted for him twice? My point is, liberals have shown they will never vote for a moderate, etc. over a corporatist Democrat. The last two elections prove that. The two GOP moderates in 2008 and 2012 were defeated not by the halfwits of the South and Midwest but by the liberals of the Northeast and CA. And the 98% of black voters voting for BHO, twice. (The question I could ask but won't is, would black voters vote for a Republican Northeastern Catholic/moderate with a vowel at the end of his name?)
The truth is, and Tom alluded to it when he said "I am not of a habit of coming to the defense of Republican politicians", liberals will never vote for a Republican, moderate or otherwise. This is not a criticism of Tom or liberals per say, instead just a reminder that there are two sides to every position. Don't let your dogma blind you to reality.
ANaonymous, are you suggesting that Obama KNEW of the incident on New Jersey? Can there not be ONE blog that youdon't turn into a whinefest over Obama?
No Mozart, I"m not implying BHO knew about the NJ bridge issue. There is simply no evidence to support that claim, and I am not making it.
Since you believe that what I have said is wine fest about BHO, I am not surprised with your question. It shows a total lack of comprehension.
How much comprehention does it take? Tom could put up a picture of two kittens playing with a ball of string and you would find a way to WHINE about Obama. Have you cosidered therapy?
No, I have not "cosidered" therapy. Would you recommend your therapist?
Have you considered learning how to use spell check?
Are you saying that BHO told us he "only found out about the problems" listed when we did? Why then, does the Sargent Schultz work for BHO but not CC?
"I know nothing!"
Tom's point is Conservatives will never for for moderate CC, my point is neither will Blacks or liberals.
And ytou will never moderate yourself. Can't we have just ONE blog withiout your usual WHINEFEST about Obama? It's been 5 years, he's done a GREAT job in spite of unprecidented obstuction from the right, and the ACA is gaining ground as more and more people see it for what it is instead of what Fox news wants them to think.
Seriously, if Obama really was that bad, you wouldn't WHINE AND CRY so much. You aren't upset about his failing, you are upset because he's succeeding.
And look into that therapy I was talking about. You have resorted to the old "I know you are but what am I?" response and ut's really sad.
As for Christie, I still think that this is all the Koch bros setting him up because, as a moderate rational person,he has become a liability to them.
Hard to argue with your outstanding intelligent logic Mozart.
You have over whelmed me with your vastly superior mind and liberal thinking. With out a doubt, you are the best liberalism has to offer.
Congratulations, you win.
If that means you are going to stop whining about Obama for 5 minutes, I accept your congratulations. But I doubt you'll stop. Obsessions are hard to break. (wait for it)
Of course Cristie knew about it.
And, the sun came up today, too.
So, all is normal.
If we knew what our leaders were doing - if their activities were revealed fully - I'm convinced there'd be a revolution tomorrow.
The continued support of Obama by the left floors me, though. The man is bought and paid for. He was birthed out of the worst political cesspool in existence. Open your eyes. You people scare me.
Say Mozart, have you and the Mrs. selected your ACA plan yet like you told us you would last year?
Anonymous at 11:39. You said:" I think Obama also knew full well what was going on."
Would you care to enlighten us as to what Obama was supposed to know?
anonymous said: "Liberals, who elected BHO twice, now claim that he is a corporatist not a liberal. Yet they voted for him twice?"
Yes, I'm a liberal that voted for BHO twice. The question is: did I have a choice?
The first time around it was BHO vs Alaska Barbie one heart attack away from the presidency. So I held my nose and voted for BHO.
The second time around, I swore there was NOTHING that could possibly make me vote for BHO. Then the Republicans nominated Mr. One Percent, who along with some friends made his fortune buying up companies, loading them with debt, charging huge "management fees" until the company went bankrupt, then selling off the assets putting thousands of hard working people out of work. Then, he has the nerve to call those people he put out of work "takers". While earning 22 million dollars last year, he felt entitled to pay only 12% federal tax on his "unearned" income, while WORKERS earning much less paid 32% federal tax.
No, I have no love for BHO, but sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.
"Benghazi being a terrorist attack, the Justice Department’s subpoenas for the Associated Press, the ACA website roll out problems, IRS & NSA abuse's, Fast and Furious, that under OBAMACARE you really wouldn't be able to keep you prior plan if you liked it, that you wouldn't be able to keep your DR if you wanted to, Obama "just found out” about whatever is in the news when the rest of America did."
Anonymous Susie Q,
This is the list of things Obama knew what was going on while using the Sargent Schultz defense, "I know nothing". This list was first broadcast by MSNBC, you know that right wing cable news network. It was posted here at 11:29 PM.
BTW did you clear your post with Mozart, you dont want to be accused of starting a whine-fest about BHO.
Harley,I voted for Obama but after five days I knew we were screwed when he chose federal bank people and assorted Neo-liberals for his cabinet. I could not stomach voting for him twice though.
If you go the Liberal websites like Truthout, Alternet, Salon, etc you will see articles very critical of Obama and their forums are filled with like minded posters.
Conversely, I have never seen the same behavior from the Conservative side ever. They are incapable of admitting error no matter how extreme the situation was. Those people scare me!
"They are incapable of admitting error no matter how extreme the situation was. Those people scare me!"
Name an extreme error that a liberal has admitted to.
Fast-forwarding past your excellent post, I was soothed to find the little gem you posted at the end. Am listening to it now, recalling that my mother could not listen to it without tears streaming her face. And this version by Sinatra is clearly superior to many others. Thank you for a precious early-morning moment, Tom.
p.s. I meant I was fast-forwarding beyond comments I could make about your post to comment on the music instead. I did not fast-forward past the post itself, nor would I ever!
Thank you, Lydia. Than means a lot coming from you. I will be emailing you a copy of the program for Meghan's mass later on today. Look for it.
Love,
Tom
Dear Tom,
This is called the freedom of speech and it was powerfully written and without any doubt a proper criticism which not only leaves the reader in irony but rather shocks him with facts.
Sincerity from Liberal Muslim,
Sayed Mudasir
Hi Tom,
I'd like to come to the defense of Sarah Palin. Your observation and near criticism of Sarah is misplaced. Sarah walked away from her governorship because she could! This speaks more about her career "saviness" and gullibility of the GOP electorate than anything. In this, Palin is a genius.
Where else...who else...could whip the GOP morons into a frenzy about the "evils" of Washington and undermine the trust of elected officials and then walk out of their own governorship but Sarah Palin?
She's a genius Tom. This incurious bimbo merely needs to string together a nonsensical and often fact less sentence dotted with the words, "liberty," "tyranny," "socialism," and "America" and the idiot right laps it up. She is *the* apex predator of the GOP!!
She's made a career and millions on insinuation alone and you can't ignore that. She lives in a perpetual scripted beauty pageant, where people far smarter than her write what she will say. The idiotic Right continues to hand money over to her willingly.
Truly, you need to give this gal the respect she deserves.
"incurious bimbo" = liberal war on women
How very very male chauvinistic of you Jay.
Name an extreme error that a liberal has admitted to. How bout this for starters. Hello? Any liberal willing to admit they are making an extreme error?
"MIT Professor Richard Lindzen is a leading international expert on climate change.
“The changes that have occurred due to global warning are too small to account for,” he told WBZ-TV. “It has nothing to do with global warming, it has to do with where we live.”
Lindzen endorses sensible preparedness and environmental protection, but sees what he terms “catastrophism” in the climate change horror stories.
“Global warming, climate change, all these things are just a dream come true for politicians. The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony capitalism are just immense, you can see their eyes bulge,” he says.
“Even many of the people who are supportive of sounding the global warning alarm, back off from catastophism,” Lindzen said. “It’s the politicians and the green movement that like to portray catastrophe.”
Professor Lindzen has published work with the conservative think-tank, the Cato Institute, a think tank that has received $125,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998. In his 1995 article, "The Heat Is On," Ross Gelbspan notes that Lindzen charged oil and coal organizations $2,500 per day for his consulting services
Lindzen has described ExxonMobil as "the only principled oil and gas company I know in the US."
Yes Exxon-Mobil Corporation is indeed a “principled person” interested only in our safety and environment. Well, according to their oily mouthpieces.
Typical left wing tactic, discredit they don't agree with.
You choose not believe what the Dr. says about Exxon-Mobil but can not offer any evidence to prove that what he said about Exxon is false. In the world of the left, anyone who says something good about a large oil company can not be trusted?
Yet, the left continues to defend and support BHO even after it has been proven to them that the President has lied to them.
The left ponders if CC never had a chance because he was a moderate, ignoring the truth that they would never vote for a moderate regardless where he or she was from. Ignoring that what CC used as a defense is the same one BHO has used, the Sgt Schultz defense, "I know nothing".
A truly open and liberal mind would see these inconsistency's in their positions and question them as strongly as they would a conservative doing the same thing. Instead the left blames their voting twice for BHO on the GOP.
I guess the liberal left wing of America today hates anyone one with wealth so much that they would rather vote for a proven liar.
discredit they don't agree with.
Glad you consider the facts that taking cash from, and shilling for, Big Oil as "discredit".
Thanks.
"Principled" is of course a human quality, not a corporate characteristic. And a corporation is NOT a person. That is also what we outside your cult bubble call a fact.
I guess the liberal left wing of America today hates anyone one with wealth so much that they would rather vote for a proven liar.
What kind of dense low information voter doesn't know that Obama is wealthy?
Probably the same kind that voted for Bush after he lied and thousands died.
Got some "nukular" aluminum tubes to show us? Period.
Anonymous, "Discredit" like Global warming? Your WHINING has become hilarious. Your hypocricy legendary. If EXXON/ Mobile was "principaled" they would not take the BILLIONS in taxpayer funded subsidies, and PAY THEIR INCOME TAXES. I doubt I would vote For Christie as long as the "R" was after his name, but I'd sure feel better about him that Romney or any of the other CLOWNS the GOP supports. Again, I think the GOP is behind this "scandal" because they want Christie OUT so they can replace him with one of their batshit "Never work with Obama ever" idiots.
Your WHINING has become hilarious. Your hypocricy legendary. If EXXON/ Mobile was "principaled" they would not take the BILLIONS in taxpayer funded subsidies, and PAY THEIR INCOME TAXES
How much does Exxon not pay in income taxes wise one?
Does any of your stuff disprove what the DR said? No, it's just normal attack the messenger liberal B.S.
More from our Sargent Schultz Commander in Chief President.
President Obama doesn’t merely claim ignorance of the IRS’ targeting of politically conservative groups or the Department of Justice’s targeting of journalists: according to The New York Times, Obama was also ignorant of the extent of NSA surveillance. According to the Times, “aides said Mr. Obama was surprised to learn after leaks by Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor, just how far the surveillance had gone.” David Plouffe, Obama’s advisor, said, “Things seem to have grown at the NSA. I think it was disturbing to most people, and I think he found it disturbing.”
President Obama has repeatedly claimed ignorance on scandals plaguing his administration.
In October, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius said Obama didn’t now about failures of Healthcare.gov. In May, Obama said he knew nothing about the IRS scandal: “I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the IG report before the IG report had been leaked through the press.” That same month, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Obama had no clue that the DOJ was targeting the Associated Press: “Other than press reports, we have no knowledge of any attempt by the Justice Department to seek phone records of the AP.”
In November 2012, Obama said he knew nothing about the scandal surrounding then-CIA Director David Petraeus. Carney denied in June 2012 that Obama knew anything about the Fast and Furious scandal: “[E]veryone knows the President did not know about this tactic until he heard about it through the media.”
Mozart, have you signed up for ACA yet?
Getting a subsidies?
I think the notion that Exxon Mobil’s of the world don’t “pay taxes” is an incomplete analysis. EM employs over 100,000 people with good paying jobs with adequate insurance and retirement benefits – that is in equivalence a social tax burden they are covering – and it is significant. They employ billions in capital every year to support large equipment manufacturers, piping suppliers, contract labor, not to mention the transportation businesses, restaurants, hotels, etc. needed to support capital project work in the communities involved. The secondary job creation is enormous. Every bit of what I just mentioned is taxed. And, of course, ongoing operations purchase materials and services in a hundred different ways – all of which are taxed. The idea that these companies don’t pay any taxes is simply wrong.
The argument I’m hearing is that their profits should be taxed and where I think we need to think about it is regarding taxing their income or “profits”. From an ideological standpoint, I’d agree if they want to retain “corporate personhood” status and play a large role in the political process, then, yes, I think their income should be taxed like the rest of us “persons”. But, I am a believer that corporations are NOT individuals. As such, their income should ideally not be taxed – and they should NOT play a role in the political process. That day will never happen, so I have a hard time supporting them in their dilemma. I can’t see they should have their cake and eat it too. Nor can those who want to strip them of "personhood" yet tax their income as if they are one.
My 2 cents. Or maybe 1.5 cents after taxes...
Harley,
Very sensible comment and I agree with almost all of it. I won't dispute the benefits to our economy, but after all, Exxon-Mobile is in it for profit. And that's fine.
One issue I have is Nor can those who want to strip them of "personhood" yet tax their income as if they are one.
While they will probably always have the status of "super-person" and reap tax breaks, incentives and subsidies, all while enjoying greater representation in government, they are nonetheless still a corporation that benefits from government and public systems.
If corporations, as corporations and not as persons, still use and benefit from our public infrastructure, legal and civil institutions, public land easements, not to mention military protection; they should be taxed accordingly. God knows, with "free speech" campaign cash and lobbying, they are way over-represented compared to public interests as it is.
But since what we have is closer to corporatocracy than democracy, they will continue to have their cake and eat it too. And make horrible messes in the public's water, land, and air. Another good reason to tax them.
ANanymous, Obama claims" Ignorance" of scandals like the IRS and Beghazi because THEY ARE NOT SCANDALS except in the eyes of people like you are are looking for such. The IRS thing was proven to be bullshit,beacause whel conservative groups WERE checked out (as they should have been) SO WERE LIBERAL GROUPS. Not one conservative group that applied for tax exempt status was denied. Benghazi, while tragic was no different that the dozens of other embassy attacks that have happened over the years in war torn areas. Several during the Bush administration, and you didn't see conservatives freaking out then. AS for the ACA website, I doubt Obama spends much time obsessing on it. He got the bill passed, and now has to battle congress over trying to get the economy rolling. No President is "hands on" with EVERYTHING. Hell, Bush wasn't "hands on" with ANYTHING. Even when 9-11 was happening he sat in Florida, silently staring into space for 7 minutes DOING NOTHING. He didn't even excuse himself to go ask for information. WHERE'S YOUR OUTRAGE OVER THAT?
"Even when 9-11 was happening he sat in Florida, silently staring into space for 7 minutes DOING NOTHING. He didn't even excuse himself to go ask for information. WHERE'S YOUR OUTRAGE OVER THAT?"
Last I looked 7 minutes is a lot less than the hours BHO spent in bed after finding out of the murders of 4 Americans in Benghazi and doing nothing when he got up for his fund raiser in Los Vegas.
7 minutes is a lot less than the days BHO allowed the lie that the murders were the result of a YouTube video to be told to Americans.
7 Minutes is a lot less than the months that have passed since the ACA went into effect without it's problems being fixed.
BTW Mozart, have you picked the ACA insurance plan that you and the Mrs. feel is best for you. How much money have you saved? Remember you said you were going to share that with us last fall.
Hey Tom, did you catch this article?
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/21288-william-rivers-pitt-a-good-week-for-hard-drinking
Seems like you and him have a lot in common, he is one of my favorite political writers.
So Benghazi (TM) was worse than 9-11?
BHO allowed the lie that the murders were the result of a YouTube video to be told to Americans.
FOX (R) again...
While the tragic event was preventable, (like 9-11), real news disagrees with Chuckie.
According to the Senate Intelligence Committee
The report found no evidence of the kind of political coverup that Republicans have long alleged... The committee described the attacks as opportunistic and said there was no specific warning that they were about to be carried out.... The report said that the Libyan militia charged with protecting the diplomatic compound didn’t defend it during the attack... But it took six more days for intelligence officials to revise their chronology of events and say that “there were no demonstrations or protests” at the diplomatic compound “prior to the attacks.”
(We know that there were riots over the video elsewhere at the time. It was reasonable to suggest a similar motive, and could not have been discounted in the first several days after.)
No conspiracy. No coverup. Period.
BHO allowed the lie.
False. Intelligence agencies cleared the video as motive until more was learned.
Someone just wants to Blame the Black Guy...for everything...even the Bush crash of '08 and Bush Recession.
Never said there was a political coverup, said BHO did nothing about it. For hours instead of 7 minutes.
See how that works?
I write words to express a thought and you respond to what I wrote, not what you THOUGHT I wrote or meant or tried to spin.
That's how normal intelligent people communicate. Maybe that's your problem. You fail to meet 2 out of 3 things required for communication.
Go figure.
Like you, I don't want to believe Christie orchestrated the bridge shenanigans, and in lieu of any evidence to the contrary, I'm still trying very hard to believe him. For the last couple of years I've seen him as one of the few remaining moderate Republicans that I might consider voting for in 2016. But the GOP is no more likely to nominate him than Jon Huntsman. Just as well, I suppose. They'd have put someone like Palin on the ticket with him and I'd have to vote "hell no" again.
Who are the moderate Democrats that might run for their party's Presidential nomination in 2016?
Hillary Clinton is pretty moderate, don't you think?
Bill and Hillary are so sensitive when people bring up his numerous charges of rape or War on Women acts.
Hillary has learned from Bill on how to be a top notch liar.
Remember what a convincing liar Bill was about Monica? Then that stained blue dress showed up and Slick Willie had to eat crow.
And how about White Water? Hillary had the paper shredders running all night to destroy evidence. But then "What difference at this point does it make?" lol
Hillary had a concussion last year when she was supposed to testify to Congress regarding Benghazi.
She couldn't make it because she said she "fell".
All abused wives say the same thing to cover for their man. Bill had came up behind her, gave her a little push while she was on the stairs. Happens all the time.
Tommy,
Not sure Hillary will get the black vote.
Remember Bill's KKK Strom Thurmond like line that the media hypocritically gave him a pass on: "A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags" still isn't playing well with the blacks. The blacks trust Hillary about as far as they can throw her big super sized booty.
Hillary is the one I trust most to answer the call at 3 a.m. I hope she makes another commercial with that message when she runs for President.
Hey Anonymous at 11:58AM
It really disheartens me to see people make fun of an old prune faced woman (who talks a big game like handling the 3 AM phone call but folds like a cheap suitcase when the call comes in) with piano legs whose husband has a huge bulbous nose and Velcro zippers on his pants. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
If you disagree with Obama you
(1) can be called a Racist
(2) can be called a "Tea Bagger"
(3) could be audited by the IRS
(4) could be investigated by Homeland Security
(5) and could be listened to by the NSA
The question is when will we be reported to the Federal Government by our children or grandchildren, will that be next?
Didn't Stalin & Hitler have the same sort of methodology?
"Hillary Clinton is pretty moderate, don't you think?"
I'm trying to find an issue that she is moderate on.
Maybe you can tell us how she is moderate on this list and why.
Abortion
Voting rights for Illegals
Pot
Govt spending
Taxes
Healthcare
Green Issues
Regulation of business
Welfare
Church and State Relationship
Affirmative action
If you know something she is moderate on, tell us.
We now see Christi is in hot water for withholding hurricane relief for Hoboken for political reasons. Nice guy. Not a moderate at all.
isn't playing well with the blacks.
Why not ask "the blacks" how they feel about being called "the blacks"?
It's OK if you're a teabagging racist, though.
Looks like Chuckie got another day pass from his psych unit.
"Why not ask "the blacks" how they feel about being called "the blacks"?"
Ask the Clintons. They were the ones saying Obama should have been carrying their bags. But of course to say that isn't racist when you are one of the democratic plantation slave masters.
Ask the Clintons. They were the ones saying Obama should have been carrying their bags...... democratic plantation slave masters
Seems the Bubble Cult has a daily quota of lies to fulfill. Didn't Stalin & Hitler have the same sort of methodology?
Tim Russert told me that, according to his sources, Bill Clinton, in an effort to secure an endorsement for Hillary from Ted Kennedy, said to Kennedy, “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.”
New Yorker
Ryan Lizza reports that the late Tim Russert related a Bill Clinton anecdote that must shock anyone overly sensitive to charges of racism.
Ryan Lizza @RyanLizza
"Who will be more discredited this year: conservatives for pushing us to brink of default or liberals for failure of health care exchanges?"
He derided Obama's candidacy at the time as "the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen" and reportedly dismissed Obama by saying, "A few years ago, this guy would have been "getting us coffee (or "carrying our bags," depending on the source.)
NPR September 05, 2012
"the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen"
Thanks Slick Willie Clinton. That sums up bullshit Barry Sotero the best. A man who could not run a McDonalds is now running the country.
Dave Dubya, do you still sleep in your "Yes We Can, Hope And Change" T-shirt?
Andrew Cuomo told The Capitol Pressroom yesterday that ‘extreme conservatives’, those he defined as basically pro-life, pro-gun, pro-marriage conservatives, have no business in the state of New York because that is not who New Yorkers are.
Sounds like a the democrats have found another moderate candidate for 2016.
Well anonymous, they are more moderate than your teabagging heroes. the vast majority of the country is against you, but fear not. As long as you have the Koch Bros to buy congressmen you still have the country held hostage to your sick, backward values 2182.
Mozart,
How did it go for you and your wife in signing up for Obamacare? You told us you would let us know how long it took and what you did to over come it's website design.
Anonymous, the website is working fine and we are currently looking through the TONS of options available to us. Most of them are better than the plan we had through employers and are cheaper even before being adjusted for our income. I know you are desparate for the ACA to fail, but I can see your biggest fear is that it's succeeding.
Mozart,
You mean you haven't signed up yet? Tell us how you were able to navigate through the website so easily, what is your secrete?
Sounds like you qualified for financial help from the rest of us in order to afford your health care. How does that feel to know you cant make it on your own? That you have to take from others to make it cheaper than what you are getting now through your working? Is someone forcing yo to stay at that bad job? Have you looked into getting a new job with better health insurance?
Never said I hoped the ACA failed, (I think it already is a failure, but that's not important right now). I was just was worried about my fellow man who has to struggle to make ends meet because of the evil Koch brothers ruining his life.
Hang in there Mozart, one day there will be no rich. Then you can be happy.
Could someone bring me up to speed on this Chris Christie bridge scandal?
Did he drive off one with a girl in his car who was not his wife and leave her to drown, making absolutely no attempt whatsoever to save her life?
Why did he take full responsibility?
Why didn’t he just say, ‘I knew nothing about this, until I read about it in the newspaper? Then the mainstream media would declare it a ‘non-story,’ and we could all just forget about it, pretend it never happened and move on.
By rights, Kennedy should of been arrested for DWI and some sort of manslaughter charges, but his position and wealth protected him. I am sure that night haunted him for the rest of his life.
On the other hand, Cheney sent 5000 young men, in the prime of their lives, to their deaths for his ego. Not to mention a million Iraqis also dead. I hear he sleeps like a baby.
Harley, an employer who compensates an employee with health benefits for his labors is neither paying taxes or treating the worker to some socialist perk.
Consider air - this might be said to be akin to socialism. We breath it, the trees breath it, it transports water and stores and regulates the sun’s energy. Throughout most of history, this relationship works pretty well for all participants. How often have you stopped to think that we can dump whatever gases we produce freely into the atmosphere like a garbage can - and why should you, the air is so vast, a lifetime of farts is inconsequential. Unfortunately, over the last couple of hundred years, many human endeavors - especially certain industries have pushed this dumping to such an extreme that the relationship between life and the climate is changing.
The industry that you argue should not be taxed is promoting and protecting a whole spectrum of resource consumption and destruction. In addition, their activities are wreaking havoc with the atmospheric relationships that we all depend upon. This may have been acceptable when they were unaware of these risks. However, the reality of this problem is now beyond question. Now the fossil fuels industries are going to great lengths to obscure science and control media while at the same time continuing to promote resource consumption - and attempt to slow expansion of renewable alternatives. If you were look at the situation from this perspective, you might conclude that the people who profited from this industry should not only pay taxes - they should have to fund solutions to produce needed energy while also minimizing fossil fuel consumption as soon as possible.
Unfortunately, the fossil fuel companies control much of the energy policy in this country - they - and only they have the kind of money that talks in Washington. Not only do they own the dialog, they own the politicians making it.
Now you might say, John you should know there is no such thing as global warming - and I might acknowledge that while the huge majority of science supports that carbon combustion is changing the climate, there is some uncertainty as to where that will take us... That said, there are many other industries that present similar situations. The genetically modified seed industry is destroying biodiversity. There may already be no corn strains that have not been contaminated with GMO DNA. The industrial meat industries have control the marketplace to such an extent it is very difficult to obtains meats and poultry that is not compromised. The fast food industry is inducing obesity and other health risks on huge numbers of people. The costs are borne by everybody - including those of us who would prefer not to eat their crap. Fish farming appears to have impacts on natural populations. In all of these cases government policy aids and abets these abuses of our food supplies.
I regard each of those issues as having a cost to me. Take all of those fat people who frequent McDonald’s who develop food related health issues. They are encouraged through their ignorance be it from government policy in the form of poor quality education or advertising to eat that stuff. On the surface, this food may appear to be the most affordable choice. But when you look at the bigger picture, you see that every step in bringing that food to it’s garbage making packaging involves an underpaid workforce - the majority of whom must rely on various forms of public assistance to survive. Going back to the people sickened by regular consumption of fast foods, the industry should provide these victims with health care. Instead these costs are born by all of us.
Nice try Anonymous. "A" for effort. The fact that I can't keep up with the grossly inflated fees insurance companies charge bothers me not even a little. The fact that my best friend can now get insurance and thus expensive treatment even though he has a "pre existing condition" pleases me to no end. And the ONLY reason the website (which is working fine) might seem difficult to YOU is that there now are many, many choices available, and we are weighing our options. I'm sure that at SOME point in your life you were not so wealthy that you needed SOME kind of "help". If I'm mistaken and you ARE so wealthy that you never needed help from anyone then you can just shut up and accept thatyou have no right to judge others. Either way, your feeble attempts at belittlement don't bother me at all. You are just another WHINER, throwing a hissy fit because Obama is succeeding and that ytour precious conservatives may never win another national election without cheating.
SMokey, that's a pretty childish attitude even for a conservative. No defense for Christie? Fine, but bringing up a 45 year old incident or deflecting to critisizing Obama is more Anonymous's schtic.
John, if you'll reread my post I said it was "in equivalence a social tax burden they are covering".
In a society such as ours where the preponderance of opinion is that easy and cheap access to healthcare is an individual right to be provided by the state, then these benefits that large corporations provide DO in fact cover what would otherwise be left to social insurance burden. I didn't say it was "socialist" per se.
Did you notice that those covered by such benefits do not fall under the "ObamaCare" umbrella. To my point, that is because that "social burden" is covered...
But Mozart says it's all better now!
Forget lousy websites that don’t work. These idiots can’t even list a phone number properly.
Critics said Saturday that the latest problem to hit Maryland’s online health exchange — an incorrect help-line number that directed hundreds of callers to a Seattle-based pottery business — was another symptom of the poorly operating website.
Wonder if Mozart knows about the latest Iowa poll?
President Barack Obama’s approval rating in Iowa hit its lowest point ever in a new poll, and it’s nearly his worst rating of any state polled by Quinnipiac.
Just 38 percent of Iowa voters approve of the job Obama is doing as president, while 59 percent disapprove in a Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday.
Must be a lot of racists in Iowa, even though Obama carried Iowa in 2008 and 2012.
On the count of three blame
Koch Brothers, Tea Party, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, GWB.
Liberalism is not the solution, liberalism is the problem.
Fascist left strikes again, BOOTS Latina actress out of play over support of Tea Party candidate
Another example of someone in Hollywood being punished for standing up for more conservative values that the leftists hate:
A San Francisco arts organization has parted ways with a well-known Latina actress, who was to star in its rendition of “The Vagina Monologues,” after the thespian appeared in a political ad with a California Tea Party lawmaker who is running for governor.
“We really can’t have her in the show, unfortunately,” Eliana Lopez, the producer, told KPIX 5 of Maria Conchita Alonso’s resignation on Friday from the cast of Brava! For Women in the Arts’ upcoming Spanish performance of the Eve Ensler play.
“Of course she has the right to say whatever she wants. But we’re in the middle of the Mission. Doing what she is doing is against what we believe.”
Anonymous, if you poll western IOwa you get aging conservative farmers. Go figure you'll get a scewed result. I noticed you didn't mention WHO did your alleged "poll".
And if Liberalism is the "problem" how come it's ALWAYS conservatives that kill the economy and Libearls have to come clean it up? (Hoover - FDR, Reagan - Clinton, Bush - Obama.)
The site seems to be working fine for us. Haven't had a chance to see in the last few days, but last Thursday it was just fine. And yeah, those people you mentioned ARE 99% of the problem in this country, glad you have finally accepted the truth.
Alonzo wasn't "booted", she quit because SHE didn't lile the plays stand against the Teabaggers. Way to spin the story.
With all due respect, the fact is we had a lane closed and people late getting across a bridge.
Was it because of bridge work or was it because of guys who wanted to slow down some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make?
It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again.
Mozart,
You forgot to include Carter in your list of outstanding Democrat Presidents.
Are saying Obama is a liberal? According to some posts he isn't.
President Barack Obama’s approval rating in Iowa hit its lowest point EVER in a new poll(12/13), and it’s nearly his worst rating of any state polled by Quinnipiac.
Poll was for the entire state of Iowa. What does your comment about western vs eastern parts of the state have to do with anything?
The Obama administration is reportedly delaying enforcement of another aspect of ObamaCare, one that prohibits employers from providing better health benefits to top executives than those being offered to regular employees.
According to The New York Times, tax officials said they would not enforce the provision in 2014 as they had not yet issued the appropriate regulations.
The Affordable Care Act, commonly known as ObamaCare, says employer-sponsored health plans must not discriminate “in favor of highly compensated individuals” with respect to either eligibility or benefits, and provides a tax break for employer-sponsored insurance, while demanding employers not provide better coverage to higher-paid employees.
Yet Bruce I. Friedland, a spokesman for the I.R.S., told the New York Times that employers would not have to comply until the agency issued regulations or other guidance.
Under ObamaCare, an employer that has a fully insured health plan that discriminates in favor of high-paid executives could face a steep penalty: a tax of $100 a day for each individual affected negatively.
Among the issues holding up the implementation of regulations, according to the Times, are how to measure the value of employee health benefits, how to define “highly compensated” and what exactly constitutes discrimination against less-paid employees.
As a result, the Times reports, officials have decided to review the existing nondiscrimination rules for self-insured companies, even as they try to write new rules for employers that buy commercial health insurance."
The next to last paragraph sums up what is wrong with policy's of the left.
Liberalism has to establish the value of people in order to discriminate against the victims of their policy's. It's all about total control and determining the winners and losers.
Racist liberals!
A prominent NAACP official recognized Martin Luther King Day by labeling black senator Tim Scott a puppet for the Republican party. “A ventriloquist can always find a good dummy,” said Reverend William Barber II, the president of North Carolina’s NAACP chapter.
CHuck you , along with Anonyous never said WHO conducted this alleged "poll" and Anonymous, critisizing a MORON who happens to be Black is not racist.
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Man caused Global Warming Snow Storm shuts down THE Government.
Tep Party and Koch Brothers blamed.
President Barack Obama’s job approval sunk to an all-time low among liberals in Gallup polling done in the week of Jan. 13 to Jan. 19, according to data released by the polling company.
Sixty-two percent of self-described liberals told Gallup last week they do not approve of the job Obama is doing as president. That was down from 71 percent in the previous two weeks. Last week’s approval of 62 percent was the lowest job approval Obama has ever gotten from liberals in the Gallup poll.
In a memo to clients provided to Secrets, David John Marotta calculates the actual unemployment rate of those not working at a sky-high 37.2 percent, not the 6.7 percent advertised by the Fed, and the Misery Index at over 14, not the 8 claimed by the government.
A record 20% of American households, one in five, were on food stamps in 2013, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA).
The numbers also show there was a record number of individuals on food stamps in 2013 and that the cost of the program, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), was at an all-time high.
Sure, be a racist and blame the Black Guy, after all he knows nothing.
Lake Erie is almost completely covered with ice and my nuts are freezing!
Should I be telling my "unscientific" and "unenlightened" NAZI KKK teabagger friends how ignorant they are about global warming still?
What is our latest marxist, I mean progressive, stance on this issue comrades?
Does anybody have Al Gore's phone number? I'm starting to think he is a quack.
Confused, you and your friends are obviously totally ignorant about all things scientific, is ignorance bliss?
all things scientific, like the scientific belief at one time that the earth was flat.
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