Lindsey's Perpetual Pathos
It's all over. Anyone in Washington who still thinks that he or she will be able to exploit the embassy attacks of last year for cheap and easy political purposes will have a better time of it trying to squeeze chocolate milk out of a rock.
The final nail in the Benghazi junkies' coffin was the revelation that 60 Minutes' reporting of that tragedy had been bogus. they had been led down the garden path by some jackal named "Morgan Jones" (probably an alias). The story he told CBS News about warning American officials of imminent attack and being ignored was completely at odds with what he told the FBI shortly after the events. The Republicans in congress based their entire Benghazi fixation on this one report and now it turns out to be complete and utter bullshit.
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None of these revelations mean a damned thing to Lindsey Graham. He's determined to continue to obstruct President Obama's nominee to head the department of Homeland Security - among others. According to Gail Collins' excellent column in today's New York Times:
"His righteous wrath was not shaken in the least when 'Morgan's' story turned out to be entirely made up. Perhaps Graham was recalling the immortal words of Mia Farrow in an old Woody Allen Movie: 'He's fictional, but you can't have everything.'"
Poor old Lindsey obviously doesn't have much of a stomach for non-fiction these days. That seems to be a chronic state as far as the right wing is concerned. They live in a fantasy world dominated by fear and loathing. It must be a dark and dreadful place. I wouldn't gladly trade places with them, that's for sure. My own world is weird enough thank you very much.
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Lindsey Graham is a walking, talking
spectacle. Does he ever look at a history book - or even a filmed
historical documentary? Has he ever had a chance to see the judgment
posterity imparts upon the bloviating gas-bags and dingbats
of a bygone era and how they are viewed through the prism of 20/20,
historical hindsight as clowns and buffoons? Has the senator from South
Carolina ever considered the foregone conclusion that this is the way
that future generations will view him?
I'm going to let all of you in on a
dark family secret of mine: I am related to Roger B. Taney, the Chief
Justice who wrote the Dred Scott decision in 1857 - the worst Supreme Court ruling in the history of this republic. This is a fact that
me and my kin don't go around cheerfully bragging about - trust me on this one, folks. That awful decision gave individual African Americans about as much rights as a head of cattle. It's almost certain that it would have perpetuated slavery well-into the twentieth century had the Civil War not intervened. That ruling (and Cousin Roger's authorship of it) renders him just about the worst Justice in the history of the court. Check out that photograph of him on the left. He just looks like a complete asshole!
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Does Lindsey Graham think for a minute that his heirs will be boasting of their familial ties to a screaming twit like himself? You gotta wonder. You just gotta!
I have high hopes for poor old Lindsey. In a rogue's gallery of screaming fools and drooling buffoons he's always good copy. Lord knows Barack Obama is far from perfect. Expecting Superman when he was elected five-years-ago this month, all I got was a well-meaning Casper Milquetoast. Still, you've got to envy the guy. Given the personal qualities of the jackasses who have done everything they can in order to obstruct his path to progress, he'll end up looking pretty good in the history books without even trying. This president has got to be the luckiest politician who ever walked this earth.
Some people are alarmed by the utter catastrophe that American politics has become in the last thirty years. Not me. In fact I thrive on it. It's all-the-more interesting the weirder it gets. I can't get enough of this stuff. Thanks in large part to politicians like Lindsey Graham, I'm as happy as I think I've ever been.
Sail on, oh ship of state.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
SUGGESTED LISTENING:
Goodnight, My love (1936)
by Ella Fitzgerald with the Benny Goodman Orchestra
Good night, my love,
The tired old moon is descending
Good night, my love
My moment with you now is ending....
Goodnight, My Love
In 1936, at the tender age of nineteen, Ella Fitzgerald had the joy and the wisdom of the angels in her young voice. It would only get better down through the decades. Who would have dared to dream, in that time and place, that such a thing was even remotely possible?
Good night, Ella. I hope you're sleeping well, my love.
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Does Lindsey Graham think for a minute that his heirs will be boasting of their familial ties to a screaming twit like himself? You gotta wonder. You just gotta!
I have high hopes for poor old Lindsey. In a rogue's gallery of screaming fools and drooling buffoons he's always good copy. Lord knows Barack Obama is far from perfect. Expecting Superman when he was elected five-years-ago this month, all I got was a well-meaning Casper Milquetoast. Still, you've got to envy the guy. Given the personal qualities of the jackasses who have done everything they can in order to obstruct his path to progress, he'll end up looking pretty good in the history books without even trying. This president has got to be the luckiest politician who ever walked this earth.
Some people are alarmed by the utter catastrophe that American politics has become in the last thirty years. Not me. In fact I thrive on it. It's all-the-more interesting the weirder it gets. I can't get enough of this stuff. Thanks in large part to politicians like Lindsey Graham, I'm as happy as I think I've ever been.
Sail on, oh ship of state.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Goodnight, My love (1936)
by Ella Fitzgerald with the Benny Goodman Orchestra
Good night, my love,
The tired old moon is descending
Good night, my love
My moment with you now is ending....
Goodnight, My Love
In 1936, at the tender age of nineteen, Ella Fitzgerald had the joy and the wisdom of the angels in her young voice. It would only get better down through the decades. Who would have dared to dream, in that time and place, that such a thing was even remotely possible?
Good night, Ella. I hope you're sleeping well, my love.
posted by Tom Degan @ 9:56 PM
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Yeah, but it doesn't matter because Obama lied. Just thought I'd save Anonymous the trouble of posting that 27 times over the next couple days.
PERIOD!!
Anonymous is on his period again.
Looks like the problem is Lindsy believed what CBS was reporting as the truth.
Gee, like in the last 5 years, that hasn't happened before, PERIOD!!
Now all you have to do is explain why if he believed 60 Minutes when they thought they were right, why doesn't he believe them when they admit they were wrong?
Damn you, De_Bill! That was exactly the point I was about to make - word for word almost. You're WAY ahead of me, pal!
Looks like CBS did half of the GOP's job for them this time. Usually when they can't attack somthing for what it REALLY is, they make up a fake version and attack THAT (See Obama, the ACA)
Graham should come out and retract what he said and apologize. Any odd that THAT will happen?
I wonder why the FBI is ok with Congress talking to the people at the mission but the White House isn't?
"WASHINGTON (AP) — FBI Director James Comey told senators Thursday he is not opposed to Congress speaking with the survivors of the 2012 attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya. That contradicts the Obama administration's position that such discussions would jeopardize the FBI's criminal case."
Is the White House trying to cover up another lie?
Has the White House responded to this? They said no contact a LONG TOME AGO, but now if the FBI wants to talk to them, how do you know the WH is STILL opposed?
Still looking for scandal where none exists?
"SAN DIEGO — “60 Minutes” should not have thrown out its report on Benghazi with the bath water.
Reporters and producers at the CBS newsmagazine made mistakes in putting together a story about last year’s attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya, and the story has been retracted.
But they also got a few things right, highlighting important information that raises serious questions about whether the attack — which resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens — could have been predicted and prevented. These questions undermine the Obama administration’s narrative in the days following the attack that this was a spontaneous outburst sparked by outrage over an anti-Muslim video."
RUBEN NAVARRETTE Jr
Statesman Journal
Mozart,
Better read my post again.
I did not say the FBI wanted to talk any one.
I said they were ok with witness talking to Congress. But the White House still opposed those witness from talking to Congress.
Don't you wonder why, since the FBI is doing an investigation & they are ok with it, but the White House which is now the home to a proven and well know liar would not allow the testimony?
What, if anything, is the White House hiding?
William Wallace
Since neither you nor I know the entire story behind this, it's clear you are just looking for a scandal since the IRS and Obama's birth certificate didn't pan out for you. As long as we are asking questioins, why was more money spent to investigate Clinton's sex life than on the 9-11 investigation?
And all this time I was thinking that Benghazi was an Italian motorcycle.
I have an idea. Let's have hearings and an investigation on Benhazi...AFTER we do the same for Bush/Cheney on Iraq. And let's allow the investigations to be proportionate to the number of deaths.
Fair enough?
Dave
Yawn! Again.
Non sequitur, again.
Straw man, again.
Why didn't the Dems, when they held both Houses of Congress in the first two years of Obama administration, do an investigation on Bush/Cheney and Iraq? Maybe there should be an investigation on that?
"Well, we don't have any evidence of this, but the seriousness of the charge requires us to investigate it" Tom Foley former Speaker of the House (d)
Mozart,
How is anything clear to you when you are not able to correctly read and understand my post? Wouldn't it make sense to do the investigation because, as you said, neither of us know the entire story behind this? And thanks for bringing up Clinton, another democrat President who is a known, proven liar.
Susie Que
Good one! Of course I hope you are just joking and not a low information voter.
SAORSA!
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Bush lied, thousands died. Straw man.
Obama lied, nobody died. National crisis.
Obama and his fellow democrat appeasers chose to "look forward", remember?
The dead are still dead. We are still paying for that straw man.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying
$824,328 for Cost of War in Iraq Since 2003.
That's some mighty expensive straw, sport.
Yawn. It's only human lives and money, right?
William Wallace, how is anything clear tp you when you are living in the middle of the conservative bubble and no facts can get in? Why didn't the Dems do an investigation? Well first of all the right would have pounded them into the ground for it for being "petty", and also the GOP would have fillibustered any action anyway. Obama was the bigger man and wanted to spend HIS time moving the country FORWARD. Besides, Daddy Bush is CIA Director (you never leave "the company") You honestly think Obama or any Dem congressman survives?(politically or otherwise) Look what happened to Dan Rather for just telling the TRUTH about Dubya's military service!
Also I notice you didn't agree that Bush lied and people DIED! Why does Bush get a pass for the deaths of a million people or more, but Clinton is evil over a blowjob and Obama is Satan because there were more worthless policies that couldn't pass the test than they anticipated? NOW he's trying to accomodate THOSE people and he's getting attacked by the right for THAT.
Your hypocricy knows no bounds.
Name ONE president that never "lied" and come back.
1. "first of all the right would have pounded them into the ground for it for being "petty" When has that ever stopped an investigation by a Senator or Congressman? The standard was set by the late Tom Foley (d) "Well, we don't have any evidence of this, but the seriousness of the charge requires us to investigate it" Great excuse, but a FAIL.
2. "GOP would have fillibustered any action anyway." False, how could the GOP filibuster a House committee hearing or investigation? They couldn't. If they could then why aren't the Dem's use a filibuster NOW to stop the House investigation on what happened at Benghazi, or the actions of the IRS? Last time I looked the GOP is NOT the majority party in the Senate. Right? Yet this thread is about how a GOP Senator is wasting his time with a Senate investigation into Benghazi! FAIL
3. "Besides, Daddy Bush is CIA Director" INSANE GRASPING AT STRAWS! Do you also believe that 9-11 was an inside job, that there black helicopters watching you and that Bush senior flew in a Blackbird to Europe to meet with Iranian leaders before the Regan election?
Going to stop now because it is painful to watch the left trying to find something to end the focus on their failed policy's.
Bubble world indeed.
The standard was set by the late Tom Foley
What does that have to do with Bush/Cheney treason? They lied, thousands died.
The dead are still dead. We are still paying for that straw man.
Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying
$824,328 for Cost of War in Iraq Since 2003.
That's some mighty expensive straw, sport.
Yawn. It's only human lives and money, right?
I don't think Bush had the brains or the balls to think up or enact 9-11, but I DO think we were lied to about who did it and WHY. Nice try with the "black helicopters" thing. The best way to get away with a crim is to ridicule those who try expose it. Why was Bush sent to Florida and then told to sit doing nothing for 7 minutes while the nation was under attack? Where are the 80+ security camera tapes from around the Pentagon that would have shown the ALLEGED plane in flight? They were confiscated and classified by the Bush administratin. WHERE ARE THEY?
You are DESARATE to make Obama as bad or worse than Bush and it's just not going to happen. Obama is trying to clean up the shitpile the Bush administration left.
If Bush lied, then the DEMs did nothing about it did they? Then or since then. So by omission they share in the guilt of the deaths you say Bushed caused.
Blame the DEM's for not stopping the lies, how's that work for you?
Not very good does it? Wonder why? How about "I voted for it before I voted against it". Does that help? You can always fall back on the "I served in Viet Nam and threw away me medals but wised up later in life and hooked up with a very rich widow, strategy and now I dont have to pay taxes on my million dollar yacht to MA. cause paying taxes is for the Koch Brothers, who ever they are.
Why didn't the Dems follow Foley's ground breaking instructions to investigate BUSH cause while you have no don't "evidence of this, but the seriousness of the charge requires us to investigate." Classic. Pure hypocrisy, cant wait to read you next excuses.
"Why was Bush sent to Florida and then told to sit doing nothing for 7 minutes while the nation was under attack? Where are the 80+ security camera tapes from around the Pentagon that would have shown the ALLEGED plane in flight? They were confiscated and classified by the Bush administration. WHERE ARE THEY?"
HERE IS WHAT YOU DO, (I cant believe that this dumb conservative has to tell these wizards of smart liberals how to get answers.)
Get the most dishonest, but transparently so, President in the history of our country to release all that you claim to be still under lock and key. Now's your chance man, do away with the rumor and get the facts! Obama, after all, told us "Yes we can!!"
And you believed him,(FOOL) and he still has 3 years left to expose the real truth about the Bush Chaney lies. And we can drag them through the streets and then tar and feather them and then put them on the rack,, OOOEEE how much fun that would be?
Obama is looking for something, anything to distract the nation from his failures and lies, how about dragging out the info to prove in a fricking trial that Bush lied and get all the answers you listed? If I believed as strongly as you do that's what I'd be doing. Wonder why you are not?
I'd be demanding AG Holder form a federal grand jury and do their thing on Bush. You know, AG Holder who finds a racist behind every American flag. Where are you on demanding that, mouth breathing liberal?
Our liar in the White House has the power to do all this, he doesn't need Congress, he doesn't need the Courts, he can issue an Executive Order. It's worked every time in the past for him.
President Obama does not need my help to be the most deceitful, lying President in our history. He is doing that quite well on his own. You just can't admit it.
BUBBLE UNIVERSE: You still think that "Obama is trying to clean up the shitpile the Bush administration left" That cant be true cause he is too busy making his own shit piles and trying to get us to clean them up for him.
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"Name ONE president that never "lied" and come back."
FDR!! So there is no mistake, that's Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
You going to disagree with me Mozart, better be careful, FDR is the patron saint of today's liberalism. You now going to accuse me of being a racist, Nazi, tea party member?
FDR said he'd never get into WWII, and yet, there we were. Sorry. You lose.
"I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again; your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars."
Of course, we also forget that Prescott Bush was part of applot to assasinate FDR and turn the country over to the military. Oh, I love history.
I love how embarrassed and humiliated conservatives try to make Obama out to be worse than Bush. It's pathetic really, but you gotta give em credit for the effort. Just look at the FAILED ATTEMPTS to find scandal in the Obama administration.
The Business Plot was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler claimed that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow President of the United States Franklin D. Roosevelt, with Butler as leader of that organization. In 1934, Butler testified to the Special Committee on Un-American Activities Congressional committee (the "McCormack-Dickstein Committee") on these claims.[1] In the opinion of the committee, these allegations were credible.[2] No one was prosecuted.
While historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[2][3][4][5][6] Contemporaneous media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[7]
Wikipedia, no mention of any Bush in this article.
The Daily Kos
Sun Feb 27, 2005 at 08:29 AM PST
The Real Plot to Overthrow FDR's America
By that great historian Steven D
No mention of Bush in this article.
Never mind, got to go, the NSA is watching me from a black helicopter.
If George could get Dubya's military records sealed and classified, he could get Prescotts name erased from a few sources. He was involved though. He was also a NAZI sympathoser, as was Charles Lindbergh
Watch out Mozart, there's a black helicopter over your house!! Better put your aluminum foil hat back on so they cant read your mind!!!!!
Run awayyyy
Dave Duyba's military records have been sealed by a former President?
Wow, he must know people in high places.
And Obama's daddy was a commie.
And Obama used to hang with Bill Ayers house.
And Bill Ayers is known for his 1960s radical activism as well as his current work in education reform, curriculum, and instruction. In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communist revolutionary group[2] that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings (including police stations, the U.S. Capitol Building, and the Pentagon) during the 1960s and 1970s in response to U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Department headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days.
Ayers held a fund raiser for Obama and they may have actually met long enoght to shake hands. Obama never "hung out at Ayers house". Ayers once put an M80 under a statue ona college campus and no one was even scratched when it went off. He was noegere NEAR any of the incidents you mentioned, and since the 60's he has done wonderful things to help education reform Obama hardly knew his father so it wouldn't matter if his father were a Martian.
George W. Bush (as well as daddy warBush) were "Bonesmen" at Yale. A secret society suspected of any number of "radical underground activities" BUsh also dodged the draft by hiding out in the Texas Guard, where he moved yup the ranks without having to earn it and then went AWOL.
Do you REALLY want to have this argument?
"The attack at our embassy in Benghazi was due to an internet video, PERIOD!"
I had my iPhone off while I was at the Beauty Parlor and did not want to be disturbed.
With an election coming up it was better for BaCrock and I to put our heads in the sand and let those people fend for themeselves, no skin off my ass. After all they knew working in the Middle East was risky. We could not afford a Jimmy Carter rescue helicopter crash with the race with Mitt being so tight.
I learned from Bill how to blow smoke up people's asses when campaigning when I said "When that phone rings in the middle of the night, who are you going to trust?"
So if FDR lied, as Mozart points out he did, and Americans died, it was because of FDR's lie.
Got it Mozart. Thanks for the insight.
And Mozart still believe a word Obama, the proven liar, tells you? And you take the word of a self confessed domestic terrorist(Ayers)?
But your focus is on a fraternity, suspected, not confessed, activity's. Hang on! NSA is outside my door, men in black suits are in my front yard, oh my gosh, they dont look a bit like Will Smith in person. The way to get to the bottom of all these claims you make about and against GWB is to have a govt investigation. Why hasn't A/G Holder done so? Where is Harry Reid, and Botox Nancy?
Surely the seriousness of these charges requires the Dems. to investigate? What does it mean that they don't? Are they running from their far left base? Does it mean they are hiding something? I'd like an investigation into why the Dems aren't investigating all the things Mozart and Dubya have claimed about GWB!
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http://campusreform.org/?ID=5239
OMG, they are blaming the black guy! Does this means they are RACIST? We wont know until our resident expert on what is racist and what it not, gives us a final declaration. Back to you Dubya.
BTW Dubya, why did the President seal your military records? Inquiring minds would like to know.
"They were the ones who heard the promise, if you like what you've got you can keep it. I personally believe, even if it takes a change in the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to these people and let them keep what they got."
Chuckie,
The way to get to the bottom of all these claims you make about and against GWB is to have a govt investigation.
Not really. HE took us to war based on HIS lies. That is self-evident.
these charges requires the Dems. to investigate? What does it mean that they don't?
We know of you inability to process information outside your bubble, but I addressed this.
Fact: Bush alone ordered Americans to their deaths for his lies. Fact: He is to blame.
Is that complicated?
Democrats are to blame for abetting and letting him get away with it.
Does that work for you?
As I said per your, "If Bush lied":
That's not an "if" sport, unless you can show us those "nukular" aluminum tubes, "biological labs", connections to al-qaeda and unmanned drones.
I'm not saying you're racist, just pointing out the real possibility. After all, you do HATE the Black Guy for offenses that pale when compared to Bush.
Care to compare body counts, sport? How about that market crash? Care to discuss FACTS?
LOL!
Speaking of the NSA, isn't that the BUSH FISA law they operate under? Ah, yes it is.
And is it true the FISA judges are all CONSERVATIVES appointed by the CONSERVATIVE Chief Justice?
Ah, yes, that is also true.
Obviously you MUST blame the Black Guy. You, along with EVERY RACIST in America. And that is a FACT.
Better go back to your usual gibberish.
I used to believe in American Exceptionalism, and it was with great sorrow that I had to admit that while at one time there was something about this nation to be proud of, those things are no longer true, and that the people that made them true are dying and being replaced with bottom feeding Free Stuff people that do not have The Right Stuff.
What finally opened by eyes was how the Democrats transformed Freddie Mac Fannie Mae with "It is Racism to deny anyone a mortgage for a home, everyone deserves a home in the name of Affordable Housing. Let everyone pick out the home they want. No credit check is needed as that is Racism. As long as us Democrats are in power us Democrats will make sure the Taxpayer can afford these homes. We will simply loot the Taxpayer to pay for these homes. It would be Racist to not do so." The fact that the Democrat Media was able to cover this up and blame Bush for it is stand alone evidence that this nation is on balance a nation of stupid immoral Lie Gobbling People, who have zero respect for The Truth, only Perceptions matter.
When you have CBS, NBC, ABC, The Washington Post, The NY Times, ....everything but Fox and Talk Radio, combined with a stupid dependent immoral American People, that is sufficient evidence to conclude that this nation is over as its people are over. You cannot replace a failed American People. A people that re-elects the worst president in its history, that is fatal, that is not fixable. When all single girls vote for Obama for Free Birth Control due to some phony "War on Women" one can only conclude Depravity and Venality. Not fixable. Failed, immoral.
A people who vote for Lies and Free Stuff have no qualities to be admired. They deserve nothing but scorn.
In a better world the DemocRATS would have NOT resorted to chicanery, lies and deceit to pass the pile of dog shit known as Obamacare.
The DemocRATS said we need to pass the bill to find out what is in it! Guess what, WHAT IS IN IT STINKS LIKE DOG SHIT!
The DemocRATS brought this travesty onto themselves and the American public. Let them reap what they have sown.
The DemocRATS are now trying to blame the GOP for Obamacare's failure. You just can't make this stuff up.
Watching the DemoCRATS crap their pants and flip flop on ObamaCare now that they are running for reelection really shows how spineless they are.
Hey Tom Degan stock up on popcorn, watching the Democratic Party implode is going to be entertaining!
What finally opened by eyes was how the Democrats transformed Freddie Mac Fannie Mae with "It is Racism to deny anyone a mortgage for a home, everyone deserves a home in the name of Affordable Housing.
"We can put light where there's darkness, and hope where there's despondency in this country. And part of it is working together as a nation to encourage folks to own their own home."
- President George W. Bush, Oct. 15, 2002
"This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."
- President George W. Bush, December 16, 2003
zero respect for The Truth, only Perceptions matter.
Yeah, better blame the Black Guy...
Why do I suspect that blogging is the only way Dave Dubya can deal with his frustration at the demise both of the President as a trusted leader, and of the President's signature "achievement"? In the end too many liberals will fall back on race as the explanation for anything political which doesn't go their way.
How's this for cognitive dissonance, Dave Dubya - I think Obamacare as it works in the real (not ideal) world is an abomination. Why don't you admit it? - Obamacare is a failure not because Mr. Obama is black, but because it was shoved down the throats of Congress and the American people by Philosopher-Kings with little knowledge of - or care - for the inevitable unintended consequences of their folly.
How a black man as yourself can blame Obama's problems on racism or Bush truly baffles the mind.
Tony,
You cannot possibly understand where I come from if you can't comprehend the fact I agree with Ron Paul saying, "Obama is a corporatist".
Obamacare is a Republican style corporatist plan conjured at Heritage Foundation and implemented by Romney.
Liberals suggest Medicare for all as the cheaper sane and compassionate alternative. All evidence supports this.
Liberals were "not at the table" for healthcare reform. Insurance companies were. Corpo-dems added GOP demands to the plan in the false hope of bipartisanship.
Better blame the Black Guy and liberals, though, just like your cult bubble demands.
Want to compare Bush's lies, body count and market collapse with Obama's record, sport?
The answer to "Why do I suspect..." is you need to hold others to your predetermined prejudiced image of who they are, instead of to their actual words and actions.
You cult is one of wild-eyed extremists who think liberals are destroying America, even though only corporatists are allowed in the White House and liberals are ignored on nearly every issue except maybe equal rights.
But you hate liberals for that too.
Mozart,
Pretty heavy storms just hit Peoria, IL area with tornadoes. Heading towards Chicago land.
Are you safe?
"Obamacare is a Republican style corporatist plan conjured at Heritage Foundation and implemented by Romney."
If that is true, why were ALL the Republicans excluded from participating in the ObamaCare legislation?
"I won" said "The Messiah".
Your phoney "Messiah" and Harry and Nancy can now eat the dog shit legislation called ObamaCare. It COMPLETELY belongs to the Democrats and these 3 clowns.
Over 50% of the people think Obama is a liar. Tom Degan must have crapped his pants when Bill called out the "Messiah" as not being honest with the American people. Bet you kool aid drinkers and the MSM didn't like that.
ObamaCare completely belongs to the Democrats, I guess maybe more of them should have read the bill to find out whis is in the bill LOL!
I just wished we had picked our own darn cotton.
"Obamacare is a Republican style corporatist plan conjured at Heritage Foundation and implemented by Romney."
If that is true, why were ALL the Republicans excluded from participating in the ObamaCare legislation?
And it is true. Republicans excluded themselves, remember? Or is "messiah" all you remember from your cult bubble?
Republicans were too busy holding posters of Obama the witch doctor and shouting, "You lie!" and promising their priority was to keep Obama a one term president. They had no interest in in actually assisting in government.
Once the Black Guy accepted GOP ideas, the GOP opposed him. Why? See above.
Now we know what happens when Democrats listen to Republicans.
Nobody listened to liberals, did they?
Obamacare's hidden parentage
ON THE surface, it looks totally partisan. Not a single Republican voted for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka "Obamacare". But the law is filled with concessions to them.
It seems your accusation of cognitive dissonance is pure projection on your part.
Obama is a corporatist. Obamacare is corporatist. The GOP is also corporatist, but they HATE the Black Guy for some reason...
What do you think that looks like, sport?
I just wished we had picked our own darn cotton.
What do you think that looks like, sport?
If you don't want to be called racists or fascists, then stop acting like them.
"This week’s Quinnipiac University poll found Obama’s job-approval rating at its lowest ever, 39 percent. More ominous: Only 44 percent say Obama is honest and trustworthy, while 52 percent say he is not; that’s the first time more thought him untrustworthy than trustworthy. Polls show Obama’s personal favorability rating has dropped in tandem."
The Coke brothers must be manipulating the polls, not the fact that Obama is a liar. Joe Wilson was right!
Liberals don't want to pay for their own health insurance.
Their solution? Cancel YOUR health insurance, and then tell you that the only way you can get it back is by paying for theirs and yours together!
That's progress according to the kool aid drinking left! lol!
"If you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan. Period.” sure Obama sure! Joe Wilson was right. You lie like a rug Obama!
More Obama lied, nobody died.
Bush lied, thousands died. "Yawn".
These Right Wing fanatics don't hide their racism very well.
Better hate the Black Guy.
Affordable Care Act is misnomer (with intent to deceive)! Once the Progressives own your healthcare, they will unquestionably own your sorry aßß too!
If the Liberal Fascists were honest with people, they would have called it the "we will own your sorry aßß" act
Liberals don't want to pay for their own health insurance.
Cons really are clueless about liberals. Not only do they think we're commies out to destroy America, I bet they think we love to torture people too. Oh wait, that's a "conservative value".
Liberal Fascists
LOL!!!! Point proven.
"Healthcare is tyranny! Obama's a Marxist Muslim. We don't know the difference between a fascist and commie. Liberals are both. Yeah, that's it."
LOL!!
Obamaian policies have made us less prosperous, less free, and less secure!
Obamabots like Dave "Alinsky" Dubya always deny the obvious, but what else can you expect from an Alinskyite (who just call their opponents NAZIs or KKK members like Democratic Senator Byrd)?
Dave, do you still get tingles up your legs when Obama reads from his teleprompter?
Bush lied, thousands died. "Yawn".
Bush hasn't been President for over 5 years.
GET SOME NEW MATERIAL YOU LIBERAL FASCIST!
Hey Tom Deegan, Dave "Alinsky" Dubya,
So far in New Hampshire, 269 people have signed up for a plan on HealthCare.gov, a total dwarfed by the number of residents whose policies have been canceled.
THATS PROGRESS LOL!
YOU LIBERAL FASCIST!
Oohh, The Cult Bubble speaks. Feel the hate AND ignorance of the cult fanatic.
New material? You mean like Benghazi, the IRS and other old news and non-scandals?
Obama is a corporatist and the victims of Bush's lies are STILL DEAD.
And we're STILL paying for those lies. Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $824,328 for Cost of War in Iraq Since 2003.
Yawn. It's only human lives and money, right?
But that stuff doesn't bother real Right Wing fascists. They're too busy hating the corporatist Black Guy...and the liberals he doesn't listen to.
It's hilarious, the racists hate Obama so much, and can't even see he's just another corporatist manager of a military empire. Wrong color, I guess.
Maybe if Obama expands torture, the Bubble Cult will feel that tingle up their leg that Cheney used to give them.
And its official, Dave has resorted once again the liberal redoubt of last resort, the race card.
So much so that when one posts they wish we had picked our own cotton instead of instituting slavery, he declares that saying is racist. One would think that if there had been no slaves brought here to pick cotton, the blacks in America today would be so much better off, so not discriminated against, so much more happy and rich, because they would be living in Africa! The black Americans would not be under the thumb of rich, race hating white conservative men. They would not be experiencing double digit unemployment and sub standard education, health care concerns and no opportunity. How can you not wish white America had picked their own cotton and not brought Africans here as slaves?
Is there nothing anyone can say that Dave, whose military records have been sealed due to the efforts of GHB, won't say is racist?
I feel so guilty because I am white.
Anonymous said...
I just wished we had picked our own darn cotton. NOT said was "instead of instituting slavery".
Anonymous chortles with glee, "LOOK, everybody! Someone is playing the race card! This is proof they want SLAVERY! Yes they do!"
...As Anonymous thinks someone has fallen into his dishonest and stupid trap, he keeps his deepest thoughts to himself:
"And LOOK, everybody, liberals are commies out to destroy America.
LOOK, LOOK, everybody! Look at those evil liberals, NOT at those elites who buy our politicians. They have NOTHING to do with what the government does.
It's all a LIBERAL PLOT TO DESTROY AMERICA!
Blame the liberals! And blame the Black Guy! He's a Marxist Muslim."
Is that about it? Got anything new sport? Your cult has you programmed so simplistically narrow minded and dishonest. It would be highly amusing; if only your party of elites were not at war with democracy.
We can only believe you embrace your hate and anger, because that's all you have. Reality is outside your bubble and all your tantrums can't change that fact.
Somewhere deep in the mind of President Barack Obama, way back where it's safe and warm, the man must be seeking refuge in memories of happier days when people like Chris Matthews, Tom Degan, and Dave Dubya got intense tingles in their loins everytime he gave a speech. Yes We Can Obama, Yes We Can the above would chant in unison with their hopium colored glasses!
Days when he could easily wield magical powers like the political messiah he once was, feeding the multitudes with his rhetoric, bringing Hopium-smoking journalists and progressive bloggers to tingles and tears.
All the man had to do was hold out his hands to stop the oceans like Moses. He said so.
"I am absolutely certain that generations from now," he said the night he won the Democratic Party's presidential nomination in 2008, "we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
He who could heal the planet and stop the oceans must be a man who could control one-sixth of the American economy and impose Obamacare on us whether we wanted it or not.
But it didn't turn out that way, did it? How could someone control one-sixth of the American economy when he has no experience and probably couldn't run a McDonalds?
Hubris has a way of ruining grand designs. And like reality, it bites.
So last week the Obama presidency began crumbling. Even Bill Clinton, rock star of the 2012 Democratic National Convention, piled on and kicked Obama in the balls, possibly in retaliation for Obama saying he can only stand Bill Clinton 'in doses' that was recently revealed in a new New York Times bestseller.
Some may be disappointed, and may see him in heroic terms, withering like a character in an ancient tragedy. Oh how people like Chris Matthews, Tom Degan, and Dave Dubya are now gnashing their teeth knowing that their super hero is nothing but a phony like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz.
Well, Chuckie got one fact:
"President Barack Obama"
And he HATES it. LOL!
Blame the Black Guy?
If you're for equal rights, hell yes blame the black guy. Why should he get a pass just because he happens to be black? Or at least half black.
He's in charge, who would you recommend we blame? Someone not the President?
Students at Bowie State University blame the black guy for their losing their health care insurance because of Obama Care. Who should they be blaming, the 25 elected DEMS. that someone listed with their lies about how wonderful the ACA was going to be? Blame them?
Funny, but the person who brought up Benghazi is the owner of this blog. So if you are pissed about Benghazi being talked about, blame him Dave, cause it's his blog.
This has been a great exchange. We found out from Mozart, that FDR was a liar and that his lie cost millions of Americans their lives.
We learned that Dave Dubya has his military records sealed by Daddy Bush. We have found out that Dave Dubya isn't sure if he is against bringing Africans to the USA to pick cotton as slaves instead of the plantation owners doing it themselves. I guess he thinks Africans are better off in a race hating American than in Africa. Naah, nothing could be that awful Or maybe he's ok with slavery?
I'll go on the record, I wish the farmers and plantation owners had picked their own cotton. Because I am against slavery and the kidnapping of blacks from Africa to be brought here and sold to pick cotton. I support the results of the Civil War that was fought to end slavery! And I am a conservative.
And we learned that the Dems are to blame for GWB getting away with lying about Iraq because they have not investigated his actions. And that the charges are serious enough to demand an investigation.
Well Done Tom!
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As Chuckie happily plays his "Blame Game"...I count at least seven "blamings", he proclaims to be against slavery.
How unique and noble of him.
Of course being con-servative, we would know his bubble tells him minimum wages are a bad thing. Chuckie is against slavery, but he's fine with paying people a buck an hour, if the "job creators" so choose.
What makes him even happier is the fact he can "blame" the poor buck an hour wage slave for being a "taker" when he needs assistance to feed his family.
Isn't that right, Chuckie?
Dave's World,
Where there is no blame.
Dave's World,
Where there is no blame.
Chuckie's World
Where there is no brain.
On Sunday, appearing on ABC’s This Week with fill-in host Martha Raddatz, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) admitted that Democrats knew full well that Americans would be booted from their health insurance plans as an effect of Obamacare implementation. When asked whether Democrats were misled by President Obama about whether Americans would be able to keep their plans in the individual insurance market, Gillibrand answered: “He should’ve just been specific. No, we all knew.”
PERIOD!!
Hope Obama care leaves me with some change.
Young Americans are now being woken from dreams of healthcare nirvana, to discover the nightmare that awaits them by the realities of Obamacare.
San Diego State University student Emily Yavitch describes her classmates’ reactions during a meeting with Affordable Care Act promoters, who recently went to the school:
Affordable Care Act promoters are visiting public universities across the state of California, and recently they stopped by San Diego State University, where the 60 or so students who attended their forum learned some interesting facts and advice about health care and Obamacare, some of which they weren’t too pleased to discover.
Here’s what went down:
1. If students make a low enough amount of money, the representatives said they would prefer – and in fact encouraged – enrollment in Medi-Cal as opposed to paying for a private plan. Otherwise one cannot qualify for subsidies. And what a tragedy that would be, to have to actually pay for something.
2. And it turns out, they do have to pay for some things. Students will now have to pay insurance fees in addition to the health center fees tacked onto most college’s student fees. So much for the Affordable Care Act relieving students’ financial strain.
3. The determinant of what sort of plan you qualify for is all based on income (not silly things like age, sex or preexisting conditions). For students struggling to pay for college, they learned that financial aid counts as part of income. So getting the money to help pay for college can ultimately determine that a student does not qualify for as many subsidies, so must bear the burden of health insurance independently. That visibly upset a few people in the room.
4. People may only change their insurance plan once a year. Under the current system, a person with a private plan can switch their insurance every month if they are so inclined. But under the new law, except for this year when the enrollment period is extended, people can only get insurance in the seven-week enrollment period. Which means if someone neglects to get insurance, they go without it for a year (which seems to fly in the face of the intended purpose of the law, which was to insure every single American.)
The knowledge they would not necessarily be able to have the same doctor, and that there would be a penalty for not buying insurance, was news (and not the welcome kind) to many students.
Students also appeared to be distressed to learn that there would be a cost of this panacea government-subsidized health care in the form of copays. Some said they were under the impression that everything would be “covered” (exactly where they imagine this money to cover everything is coming from, I do not know.)
Truth, it works every time.
PERIOD!!
Some nitwit doesn't understand students are covered by their parents' policy up to age 26, under the evil Obamacare.
Anybody wonder why the cons don't mention people with pre-existing conditions?
So what's the GOP plan again?
Oh, that's right. "Let 'em die".
This nitwit wants to know what happens if the parents of the students have lost their health care insurance due to Obama Care? I know, no one is to blame, no one is responsible, no one knew anything until they read it in the paper..
This nitwit cant imagine with the track record of this Administration when it comes to being truthful and honest that this could be a true story. No never.
"In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.
The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.
And the Census Bureau, which does the unemployment survey, knew it.
Just two years before the presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report, which is one of the most closely watched measures of the economy.
And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.
“He’s not the only one,” said the source, who asked to remain anonymous for now but is willing to talk with the Labor Department and Congress if asked.
The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census."
John Crudele
P.S. Lee Harvey Oswald was not a member of the John Birch Society.
He was a liberal left winger.
It sucks to be you Dave.
It sucks to be you Dave.
Yes, the nitwit really, really wants to make it about me.
Why is that?
Because he cannot, and will not, make it about:
Anybody wonder why the cons don't mention people with pre-existing conditions? So what's the GOP plan again?
Oh, that's right. "Let 'em die".
Instead the Bubble Cult's mission is to attack the Black Guy. Their mission is NOT to deal with healthcare, and the Constitutional mandate to promote and provide for the General Welfare of Americans.
Here's their plan:
Every man for himself, and let the powerful wealthy elites write our laws.
And of course, "Let 'em die".
Isn't that right, Chuckie?
And we should believe a word Obama tells us about Benghazi?
Not only did Obama lie about keeping your plan, but he is also lying now, about cancellations affecting only about 5% of those insured.
He knew in 2010 even, that most employer insurance plans, not just the individual market plans, would be cancelled. Because Obama delayed the employer mandate (which delay was lawless and unconstitutional), he delayed those looming cancellations until the end of next year.
At the very time in the last few weeks, when Obama was arguing to us that the cancellations would only be affecting a small number or 5%, his Department of Justice was telling the federal court that most of the EMPLOYER POLICIES WOULD BE GOING AWAY.
For someone who is always address someone he calls "chuckie" it seems rather stupid to be saying "really wants to make it about me(Dave Dubya)."
Thank you Anonymous Chuckie for STILL making it about me, and NOT about:
Anybody wonder why the cons don't mention people with pre-existing conditions?
Instead the Bubble Cult's mission is to attack the Black Guy. Their mission is NOT to deal with healthcare, and the Constitutional mandate to promote and provide for the General Welfare of Americans.
Here's their plan:
Every man for himself, and let the powerful wealthy elites write our laws.
And of course, "Let 'em die".
Isn't that right, Chuckie?
Interesting, Obama Care is causing people to lose their health care insurance and liberals claim the GOP plan is to let them die?
Quite a disconnect with reality.
Wow, what a lot of intentionally uninformed anonymous trolls! At least there's Dave, keeping up the good fight of reality versus idiotic blather!
Keep up the good fight, Dave,
and thanks, Tom!
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