Some Nightmare
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| David Horsey / Los Angeles Times
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"[T]he people of New Jersey reelected Christie by a huge margin, even
though a majority of them disagree with their governor on issues ranging
from raising the minimum wage to gay marriage. New Jersey voters simply
like the guy."
From yesterday's Los Angeles Times
Unless he was running against Silas Barnaby or Montgomery Burns, I probably would never cast my vote for Chris Christie. Like a lot of people in New Jersey, I like the guy, too. Even when he's screaming at some poor teacher who asks him to explain his education policy and he admonishes the poor gal to "DO YOUR JOB!" he has this Oscar the Grouch quality about him that is hard to resist; a street-smart curmudgeon. He has more-than-a-few admirable qualities about him, too. Last year during Hurricane Sandy, he refused to put politics in front of the welfare of the people of New Jersey. When President Obama came to town to offer a helping hand, he gladly embraced that hand without a hint of political embarrassment or self-consciousness. That shows a lot of class. But the sad fact of the matter is, likability aside, Chris is just too much of a stone-cold right-winger for my tastes.
FOR THE RECORD: Were Chris Christie to somehow become president of the United States in 2017 (not that it's gonna happen) I would lose an awful lot of sleep - but not one/tenth the amount of sleep I lost when the half-wit from Crawford, Texas reigned supreme. 'Nuff said?
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| Terry McAuliffe |
To give you just one example, in the LA Times article quoted above, Rush Limbaugh issued forth the proclamation that the governor was not the choice of the voters of New Jersey but (hold onto your hats) THE LIBERAL MEDIA. Wait, it gets weirder. Not only that, but el Rushbo is now predicting that Christie will be the Democratic nominee in 2016. Medications please.
The sad fact of the matter is simply that Chris is not enough of a hater for this crowd. Although he has come out against gay marriage, he believes that we all should love one another - and the gay and lesbian community is included in his equation. Also - GET THIS! - he's been known to reach out to KNEE-GROWS!!!
AWW, SHIT, ESTHER! Did you hear what that goddam, fat EYE-TALIAN just said? He wants you ''n' me to go sashayin' round, French-kissin' a bunch of goddam dykes and faggots. Quick, run 'n' git mah ammo box, darlin'!
That's right, class: as delightfully weird as the Republican Party has gotten in the last thirty years, Chris Christie is just not extreme enough for them - not by a wide margin. You couldn't make this stuff up in fiction.
It's not just the extremists on the far right who are unsettled by Christie's victory this week. As expected as it was, the Democrats aren't too happy about this latest chapter in the thrilling adventures of THE MAN FROM TRENTON. The last time one Democratic administration bequeathed the White House to another Democratic administration was on March 4, 1857. They see Chris Christie as an obstacle to that happening on Inauguration Day 2017. They need not worry.
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| HEY, ABBAAAAAT!!! |
Unless the Democrats really screw up this golden political moment (as they're not unknown to do) they have nothing to fear from the good fortune of Chris Christie. 2016 will be the the equivalent of shooting a school of brain-damaged fish in a leaky barrel. Their luck is hard to believe.
For a right-winger, Chris is as decent as one could ever hope for. That is why he doesn't stand a chance in the Republican primaries. If he is the Dem's "worst nightmare", they should be quite grateful. With nightmares like that, who needs daydreams?
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Metal Machine Music
by Lou Reed
Here is a link to listen to Lou's controversial 1975 LP, Metal Machine Music, in its entirety. My pal Kevin Swanwick was the only person I ever knew who had a copy of this record. When I first heard it all those decades ago, I thought it was awful. My seventeen-year-old mind was not wired to "get" it then. I get it now. In fact I love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Vy4VRRO30#t=93
An acquired taste to be sure.
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: "You know, I regret very much that what we intended to do, which is to make sure that everybody is moving into better plans because they want ‘em, as opposed to because they’re forced into it. That, you know, we weren’t as clear as we needed to be in terms of the changes that were taking place. And I want to do everything we can to make sure that people are finding themselves in a good position — a better position than they were before this law happened.
Keep in mind that most of the folks who are going to who got these cancellation letters, they’ll be able to get better care at the same cost or cheaper in these new marketplaces because they’ll have more choice, they’ll have more competition. They’re part of a bigger pool. Insurance companies are going to be hungry for their business.
So, the majority of folks will end up being better off, of course, because the website’s not working right. They don’t necessarily know it right [now]. But, even though it’s a small percentage of folks who may be disadvantaged, you know, it means a lot to them. And it’s scary to them."
Obama is a lying, still.
Anonymous,
"Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien." ~ Voltaire
Expect the Republicans to attempt an electoral coup d'tat in the next three years.
This has already happened. The GOP controls the House yet over a million MORE Americans voted for democratic, rather than republican representative. So much for "representative democracy".
The Republican Party exclusively represents the economic elites, and is doing its best to suppress democracy.
And until the public wakes up to that reality, the far Right is winning their war on democracy.
President Obama is a proven liar.
Just In:
4.8 million Americans have now lost their health care insurance since the start of the ACA Tax.
ACA Tax Website To Be Partially Shut Down For Most Of Next Three Days.
Single payer health care is the answer? Do you really trust the nanny state to take care of you cradle to grave? A lying, non transparent, crony capitalistic, incompetent, nanny state at that!
What has happened to the Democratic Party whose arguably 2nd most popular President (after FDR) urged us to "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"?
Where are the "classical" liberals? Are there any left? Have they all been replaced with the social engineering liberal?
Is there any freedom, any liberty you are NOT wiling to give up in exchange for the nanny state?
"Цель оправдывает средства"
What has happened to the Democratic Party
They've become the junior corporatist party.
Obama is a corporatist. - Ron Paul
Anonympous just can't get past his OCD "Obamacare bad, Obamacare bad, Obamacare bad"
This article isn't even remotely related to that. Can't you stay on subject for even ONE comment?
William Wallace "Single payer health care is the answer?"
1. Medicare.
2. Medicaid.
3. Tricare.
4. Most of the rest of the civilized world.
"A lying, non transparent, crony capitalistic, incompetent, nanny state at that!"
Duh. "Of the People, By the People, and For the People" says "People" three times. Have you met people?
"What has happened to the Democratic Party whose arguably 2nd most popular President (after FDR) urged us to 'ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country'?"
We said "Yes we can!" and then got shut out of the healthcare reform debate, so we got a Medicaid expansion, and the neo-liberal Public Exchanges for private insurance and Individual Mandate that Republicans used to pretend to be for.
"Where are the 'classical' liberals? Are there any left?"
What was the classical liberal solution to retiree poverty? Retiree lack of healthcare? Poor people's lack of healthcare? (Spoiler Alert: their failure lead to government programs in the first place)
"Have they all been replaced with the social engineering liberal?"
Leaving it to the Free Market is engineering. It's the kind of engineering that cancels your insurance for getting diagnosed at the wrong doctor, or for having acne before getting cancer.
"Цель оправдывает средства"
It must awful to have to purchase private health insurance coverage on an open public exchange, with minimum standards (as well as the nature of the exchange) helping to ensure both transparency and competition (two things a classical liberal should be for, and two things that are tough to find on the mess of the individual market), provided you aren't already employer-covered, already have individual insurance, are covered under your parents insurance, or are under Medicare/Tricare/Medicaid/etc. Woe!
So central planning by the Federal Govt is your answer Moe.
Glad we got that out of the way.
Anonymous "So central planning by the Federal Govt is your answer Moe."
As I thought I made clear, for a lot of people there isn't much of a choice. Poor? No choice. Preexisting condition? No choice. Kid with a preexisting condition? No choice. Old? No choice.
It's not a choice between "Nanny State" and "Freedom". It's a choice between "something" and "nothing". The freedom to be trapped in one job because your kid has a preexisting condition, and you can't afford to risk switching jobs isn't freedom. The freedom to lose the house to cancer isn't much of a freedom. The freedom to lose the house to cancer even if you started out with health insurance isn't much of a freedom. The freedom to pay more per capita than anywhere else in the world (while covering less of the populace) only to find yourself a victim of rescission when you get sick isn't freedom. It's idiocy.
"Glad we got that out of the way."
Government isn't bad. It's a necessary evil. Government is us, together, doing the things we can't do alone. Dealing with a Market failure is a problem we can treat together that we can't do separately.
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And, again, "What was the classical liberal solution to retiree poverty? Retiree lack of healthcare? Poor people's lack of healthcare?"
Well put, Modusoperandi.
As Brother Jeff said, they live longer than us in Europe and they get better care. What part of that simple equation do we not understand?
Good one!
Tom
VERBATIM:
"In short, in the US, you pay more, get less, and die younger than we do in Europe. What part of that don't you understand? My fellow Americans, you have nothing to fear except those who would use fear to keep you enslaved to the myth of the might of the American health care system."
Jeff Degan, 2009
Just thought I'd throw that in.
MO,
Chuckie's on the ropes. Time to play his "dog whistle" commie card: "central planning by the Federal Govt is your answer".
"What was the classical liberal solution to retiree poverty? Retiree lack of healthcare? Poor people's lack of healthcare?"
Good question. Too bad the Bubble Cult is forbidden to answer questions.
But we do know the far Right's answer from the GOP debate.
"Let 'em die".
No need to get so defensive Moe, just calling it like it is.
You favor central planning for every one. You prefer, the cradle to grave, nanny state. It's ok with me, just let it be ok with you.
Who determines who has and doesn't "have much of a choice"?
Who determines who is poor or poor enough?
Who determines who gets "something or nothing"?
Who determines what size soft drink you can buy?
Who determines if your health insurance is good enough or not?
Who determines if you should or should not have trans-fat in your foods?
Who determines if you can or can not smoke tobacco in public?
Who determines if you can or can not smoke pot in public?
Who determines what light bulb you can purchase?
Who determines what food you children can have to eat at school?
Who determines what your car's mpg should be?
Who determines how much of your money you can keep?
Who determines the amount of salt you should use?
Who wants to determine what the butter you put on you pop corn is made of?
Who determines what a retiree can keep of their retirement income?
Who determines how much a retire should pay for their health care?
Who determines if you are sick enough to be treated for cancer so you keep your house?
Who determines how much Drs. will be paid for treating your cancer?
The individual?
The Government?
Sorry Moe forgot to add this
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William, I love how you make up "what I want" out of whole cloth and then attack me for it.
I guess you don't mind the "nanny state" when it comes to corporate subsidies or laws persecuting people you don't like (Women, Gays, Minorities).
Many of the things you mentioned in your list need to be monitored and controlled. Most of the rest, like soft drinks and light bulbs are just "Sarah Palin" gripes, based on extremes and misrepresentations. Remember "death Panels" and "FEMA camps"?
I guess the "free market" is only for rich white men eh?
My goodness, Chuckie has a lot of questions. But wait. No, they're not his. They're really a copy and paste list of his resentments.
So who determines Chuckie's questions? Not the individual. Chuckie can't think for himself.
LOL!
Hey Tommy,
I see you don't have much coverage on what a flop ObamaCare is. You know the "Some Nightmare" that has that whore of a Senator Mary Landreau in Louisiana SHITTING her pants LOL. That fuking bitch won't get elected again as a Senator or DOG CATCHER!
But its DEMOCRACY (that the Socialist Dave Dubya always foams at the mouth about) when the federal government in backroom deals promises huge payments in State Aid for her to change her vote for the biggest pig of all with lipstick ObamaCare!
"If you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan. Period.”
I love how anonymous changes his name as if we wouldn't know it's the same guy with the same tired rhetoric.
Mozart,
What have I made up? Are you saying that none on the list is true?
Really? How does my list lead you to believe I am against Women, Gays, Minorities? Where is your evidence that supports your claim? Or are you playing the racist card? Do you automatically assume that because some is against the nanny state that they are racists?
Why?
For the record I despise corporate, farm, union and welfare subsidies. I am against crony capitalism/capitalists. Like Obama. The deals Obama is making with big corporations is inexcusable, I cant believe a true liberal would support him, if for no other reason than that!
Reread my post, Moe claims that Govt control is good for some people and that we do not have the nanny state. I reply with we are a lot closer to having a central planning govt.run nanny state than he thinks we do. Or is willing to admit. If what is listed is not true, then point that out, but reality check time, GOVT is controlling those choices for us now.
My point, although you seem to either ignore or miss it, is the govt already is controlling our lives, it is choking our liberties to be who we want to be, where we want to spend our money, what we want to eat, who we want for our Dr., what type of health care insurance WE WANT, and on and on. Are you so wrapped up in your hate of anything that is conservative/Tea Party/GOP/ that you refuse to see what is happening to you daily?
Who says the govt needs to monitor and control the size of my soft drink, the amount of trans-fat in my food? I didn't, did you? However, the Govt said they do. And that is controlling your life beyond the needs to protect to poor and sick and gays, and minorities and women. Where did I say the free market is only for rich white men? Where for that matter did I bring up race or gays or women? Is this simply the only way you know to deal with a view that you disagree with?
Are you blind to the reality that the evolution of govt into the nanny state is taking choices away from you? Do you care? Are ok with losing your freedom as long as the rich white men get punished? That's a piss poor exchange, isn't it.
Death panels, another trump card, right? But wait a second, if the govt can tell you that your health insurance isn't good enough, and they can tell the medical industry what they can charge for their services, and they can make a male pay for medical conditions that can only apply to a female, what makes you think that they can not determine what care some one gets and who gets the care? How long can a medicare patient stay n the hospital? Look into that and think if that is in some case signing a death sentence when the patent is force out because the GOVT says they must go. Is the GOP causing that?
Was it President Obama, who told you this? Was that right after he said "Period"?
SAORSA!
William Wallace, go back to your head writers at Fox news and tell them we aren't buying their BS anymore. PLus, stop with the "government bad" crap. It's getting old and you sound like a whiner. The insurance industry has been ripping people off for decades and the government finally has stepped in to put a stop to it and THAT is what has the Koch Bros panties in a wad abouit the ACA. All you are doing is carrying their water.
Mozart,
Get a grip on reality,
Where did I say govt was bad?
How much Fox News do you watch to KNOW that what I posted was from them?
And now you blame the Koch's for the things the govt controls in our lives? Are the Koch's believers in govt control and planning? Do the Koch's own and run insurance company's?
And govt controlling the size of your soft drink is not ripping you off?
Or making you buy an insurance plan that included in it's coverage, things you don't need, want or can use? Now the govt is ripping us off and you're ok with that?
Are you saying the only reason for the ACA Tax is because the insurance companies have been ripping us off? You mean it was not because there were 30 million of us without insurance?
How in the world is the ACA Tax ending the insurance ripping us off, when it forces people to buy insurance? Sounds like the ACA Tax is growing the insurance industry business.
We are losing our freedom and liberty to a govt that is growing in it's control of our lives. What is liberal about that?
Interesting how instead of thinking about the loss of your liberty, you accuse those who bring that loss to your attention, of carrying somebody's water. Pretzel logic.
SAORSA!
"President Period" never would have been elected if he had revealed his true intentions about Obamacare. Is he able to govern effectively, or is he a limp, bystander who constantly blames others for his woes? Why does he ALWAYS claim to "know nothing" about all scandals that plague his administration?
HE LIED. PERIOD.
Shame on you, MEDIA... For your lack of curiosity, for your lack of vetting... For selling this snake-oil salesman to America. Shame on you.
And Shame on all the liberal loons with their ModusPropogandi (aka Tom Degan) rose colored glasses still believing this total bullshit artist of a President!
When will the liberal loons start attacking Christie on his weight? Of course they won't mention how fat Hillary's big ass has become!
Where did I say govt was bad?
.....We are losing our freedom and liberty to a govt that is growing in it's control of our lives.
Good to know that “losing our freedom and liberty” is not “bad”.
LOL!
I love it when fools and dupes like Chuckie whine about “losing our freedom and liberty” to a healthcare system. Just like Reagan and Medicare.
Never mind the permanent war, Patriot Act, Surveillance state, and Great Recession Bush left us.
Those don’t crush our liberty like the imaginary Marxist death panels, do they?
Just blame liberals and the Black Guy. It’s the only “fair and balanced” thing to do.
hey Mozart,
that 7:15PM comment all depends on what your definition of "period" means just like Slick Willie Clinton's definition of "is". You libs also have a different definition of "lie", lol
ps Joe Wilson was right!
Progressives worship at the altar of big government and believe that government can solve all of societies evils. In reality, government almost always makes things worse (think the war on poverty which encourages dependence on government and discourages independence). We need government for some things, but it is not the universal panacea for all of societies' problems. Progressives have failed and one of the best examples of this is Obamacare.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Progressives worship at the altar of big government and believe that government can solve all of societies evils...blah, blah, blah"
FOX(R) Limbaugh cult beliefs 101.
"Safety nets cause dependence".
Imagine a cult that blames the medicine for the disease.
Not the lack of good jobs, no sireee, that would be blaming the pure and perfect lords of the land known as "job creators".
We are unworthy of their beneficence. Neo-feudalist rule by the elites is the only default answer.
As if they had an answer.
They're too busy screaming about liberals destroying America to be bothered about offering any sane and compassionate alternatives.
As I said, FOX(R) Limbaugh cult beliefs 101.
But it cannot survive treason from within.
Amen. Yet Bush and Cheney walk free after deceiving the nation into a war of agression for political gain and crony profit.
And we the people are STILL paying $824,328 every hour for Cost of War in Iraq Since 2003.
So let's give Bush and Cheney more tax cuts. That should fix it, right?
Saul Alinsky said:
"They fear that the development and building of People's (community) Organizations is the building of a vast power group which may fall prey to a fascistic demagogue who will seize leadership and control and turn an organization into a Frankenstein's monster against democracy."
The Frankenstein's monster was hatched and given the name Obama that Cicero spoke of.
Chuckie says healthcare is "tyranny" and ignores war and surveillance state left by Bush.
What...A...Cult.
Dave, I dont know who "chuckie" is but you seem to have an unhealthy fixation on either the person or the name.
Anyway, can one assume that based on your reaction to the list of just a few of the things our govt is taking away our freedom to choose on, that you believe it is good when govt. takes away our liberty and freedom?
I'm ok with that, if you want central planning, cradle to death govt control of your life, just be honest and admit same. Stop hiding from what you want, it really is ok with me. Of course if there are somethings you do not want govt to control in your life, it would be nice of you to share that with us.
The rest of you post is a non-sequitur, and as such does not require nor will it get from me, a response.
"a fascistic demagogue who will seize leadership and control and turn an organization into a Frankenstein's monster against democracy."
Wow...sounds EXACTLY like the Teabaggers in the House of Reps to me.
And William Wallace (AKA Anonymous) can you name ONE "freedom" that you have personally lost under Obama?
Well, William "Chuckie" Wallace, you respond as though that's who you are.
If Wallace, Tyrone, Harry, Chuck Morre, et al are different people, you don't show it very well. Either the Right is made up of identically programmed zombies, or you are liar.
Well, we can allow both to be the case. Would you like to prove you're NOT Chuckie? That would require you to answer questions.
And something tells me you don't answer questions, Chuckie.
Have you read my post? I will post it for you.
Who determines who has and doesn't "have much of a choice"?
Who determines who is poor or poor enough?
Who determines who gets "something or nothing"?
Who determines what size soft drink you can buy?
Who determines if your health insurance is good enough or not?
Who determines if you should or should not have trans-fat in your foods?
Who determines if you can or can not smoke tobacco in public?
Who determines if you can or can not smoke pot in public?
Who determines what light bulb you can purchase?
Who determines what food you children can have to eat at school?
Who determines what your car's mpg should be?
Who determines how much of your money you can keep?
Who determines the amount of salt you should use?
Who wants to determine what the butter you put on you pop corn is made of?
Who determines what a retiree can keep of their retirement income?
Who determines how much a retire should pay for their health care?
Who determines if you are sick enough to be treated for cancer so you keep your house?
Who determines how much Drs. will be paid for treating your cancer?
The individual?
The Government?
Now tell me, where did I use Obama's name? Are you defending Obama's crony capitalism, his deals with big corporations?
I'm not.
Your post is just another another non-sequitur.
Do you regardless of who is in the White House want central planing, cradle to grave nanny state govt to take care of you?
...No answer. So far, so Chuckie.
"According to new national polling data from Pew Research, the American people have revolted against President Barack Obama’s and the GOP establishment’s efforts to grant amnesty to America’s at least 11 million illegal immigrants through comprehensive immigration reform.
“Only about a third of the public (32%) approves of the job Obama is doing on immigration policy; 60% disapprove,” Pew wrote. “Obama’s ratings for this issue among Democrats are mixed: About half (53%) approve of his handling of the issue while 42% disapprove.”
Obama’s 60 percent disapproval rating on immigration from the American people is an all-time high for him on the issue and puts him on par with former President George W. Bush’s immigration polling numbers. Obama’s immigration disapproval rating has skyrocketed as he has ramped up his efforts to lobby Congress for the passage of an amnesty—particularly the Senate’s “Gang of Eight” immigration bill.
As the American people have learned more and more about the Gang of Eight bill and the effects which amnesty and a drastic influx of millions of new workers would have on the hurting economy, they have grown more and more outraged with what Washington, D.C., is doing regarding immigration reform."
FEDERAL cabinet has ruled that Australia will not sign up to any new contributions, taxes or charges at this week’s global summit on climate change, in a significant toughening of its stance as it plans to move within days to repeal the carbon tax.
Cabinet ministers have decided to reject any measures of “socialism masquerading as environmentalism” after meeting last week to consider a submission on the position the government would take to the Warsaw conference.
A further document was produced after the meeting that outlines the government’s position.
The Australian has seen part of the document and it declares that, while Australia will remain “a good international citizen” and remains “committed to achieving the 5 per cent reduction” by 2020 of the 2000 levels of emissions, it will not sign up to any new agreement that involves spending money or levying taxes.
This rules out Australia playing any role in a wealth transfer from rich countries to developing nations to pay them to decrease their carbon emissions.
googyl "When will the liberal loons start attacking Christie on his weight? Of course they won't mention how fat Hillary's big ass has become!"
Kudos. Brilliant. I've rarely seen someone state so concisely and so clearly that their points are to be ignored before.
Moe,
Are you a classical liberal?
"I am an old-fashioned American citizen who believes in our traditional values of freedom, truth, and justice." Dave Dubya
THAT IS A LIE!
You are a supporter of big govt, central planning, freedom choking, cradle to grave, nanny state values. If you are not, then say so. You deny that our govt by limiting our choices and controlling our lives, is limiting our liberty.
You claim to believe in truth, yet offer no evidence of telling the truth. You want justice, but deny justice for humans who are unborn, and still in their mothers wombs.
You label anyone who disagrees with Obama as a racist, yet you claim he is a corporatist. Your favorite throw away line is "blame the black guy" as if black guys can do no wrong and because of slavery, should not be held to the same standards as non blacks. If that is your belief, the you are not for equality, but in fact believe one race is superior to others. That is racism.
When you are faced with a rebuttal to your position, your response is to blame groups of people who do hold the power you claim they have, or former Presidents who are no longer if office. You ignore the lies President Obama has told and continues to tell, about his signature piece of legislation the ACA Tax.
Your response to the failures of the ACA Tax is to claim the GOP/Conservative solution is to let "them die", ignoring the reality that the ACA Tax has started to do exactly that. 4.9 million Americans have so far lost their healthcare insurance since the kick off date of ACA Tax. Ignoring or belittling the alternative plans and compromises that have been offered to the ACA Tax. Or maybe you just are ignorant of them.
You demand answers to your non-sequitur questions, that are nothing but rabbit trails leading away from the continued truth of the failed Obama Presidency. You blame others for Obama's failures.
You are pathologically obsessed with expressing hate towards people you do not know;
Chucky, etc, assuming they are all the same person. Regardless if they are or aren't, "what difference does it make"?
You deny having heard of Saul Alinsky but your following of his rules for radicals is text book. You belittle anyone who calls you a "commie", but have and continue to support economic systems that are communist.
You will not respond to this post, or if you do, it will not be a defense of your positions, but instead an attack on the poster and anyone who is not declared by you to be a liberal.
"Цель оправдывает средства"
SAORSA!
Wow, Chuckie,
You really are obsessed with me...not that there's anything wrong with that. ;-)
Fear not, far from hating you, I sort of like you. Your fuming rage is a nice contrast to my rational, humor-tinged honesty.
And I agree with you, Obamacare is sorely lacking as a sane and compassionate healthcare system.
Let's join together and demand Medicare for all. Aren't we worth it?
Your groundless accusations need not be refuted, but thanks for your huge list of resentments.
That's very "Right" of you.
Justin Doolittle on Salon today, Veterans Day.
"Stop thanking the troops for me: No, they dont protect our freedoms".
Venezuela, a sterling example of the failure of central planning, big govt liberal nanny state socialism, and it’s the people who suffer. Dr.s there say healthcare is collapsing.
Driving the crisis in health care are the same forces that have left Venezuelans scrambling to find toilet paper, milk and automobile parts. Economists blame government mismanagement and currency controls set by the late President Hugo Chavez for inflation pushing 50 percent annually. The government controls the dollars needed to buy medical supplies and has simply not made enough available.
What will Sean Penn say and who will he blame?
The U.S. is still (2011) one of the main leaders in medical advancements and quality care. With an annual expense of $2.3 trillion per year and a population of 311.5 million, its per capita costs are $7,383. American medical professionals receive the highest compensation for their services and provide some of the best care in the world for that compensation, which is the direct result of a free market with competition. Cuba?
Cuba spends $190 million per year on its citizens’ medical bills. With a population of over a little more than 11 million, that comes to about $17 per person per year according to recent figures released from Cuba. Cuba is suffering from the demise of the Soviet Union, which used to provide vast subsidies to Cuba. This what happens when socialism runs out of other peoples money to spend. Cuban patients often bring their own bed sheets, hypodermic needles, food and water to the hospital.
What does Omamacare do to reduce the avg. medical expense? Force people to pay higher cost for their insurance?
Yoani Sanchez Cuban Blooger on the Huff Post.
"Cuba's Much Lauded Health Care System No Longer Has Even Aspirin to Give Us"
What would Michael Moore say?
Healthcare in North Korea includes a national medical service and health insurance system.[1] North Korea’s government claims that it provides universal health care for all citizens; however defectors and health professionals working abroad with contacts to North-Koreans claim that health services only exist for those who can pay for them. More reason for the USA to go to single payer or Medicare for all, because it works so well in North Korea.
Canada, In response to the rapidly rising costs, provincial governments have raised taxes and RATIONED care, increasing patient wait times. Provincial drug plans have also more often refused to pay for most of the drugs that are certified as “safe and effective” by Health Canada.
Single-payer health care, once lauded by President Barack Obama for its ability to keep health care expenditures down by rationing care, has become prohibitively expensive and inefficient in Canada, according to a new study from the Fraser Institute in 2011.
Has Canada done anything to stop this?
See, govt knows best how to spend our money.
On Nov. 1, sizable cuts were gouged into the federal food-stamp program (or, as it’s now called, SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), which feeds 47.6 million people, or nearly one in six Americans. In the city, 1.9 million folks get the bulk of their Jell-O and Campbell’s Soup from stamps.
But news has spread among the poor, like leafy green vegetables, that it wasn’t heartless Republicans who triggered the cuts.
Rather, some of the food-stamp cash was snatched to pay for Michelle Obama’s pet project, Let’s Move. What?
It’s come to this. Some 76 million meals a year will vanish from this city — poof! — partly because the president diverted money from SNAP to the first lady’s signature program, part of her Let’s Move anti-obesity initiative — the bean-sprout-heavy, $4.5 billion Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act.
When Hugo Chavez came to power in 1998 there were around 18 doctors per 1000 inhabitants in Venezuela. By 2012 this had risen to 58 per 1000 inhabitants.
"Still, the big business rumour mill, er I mean the private English media has repeated the word ‘crisis’ in relation to Venezuela so much, that it seems to be taken for granted. But slightly higher than normal inflation (normal by Chavez’s standards, as it has been quite low, on average, under his management) and a bit of a shortage of milk, is not a crisis. The increasing homelessness in the US is a crisis. ...Venezuela should be able to sue Reuters and the Washington Post and the rest of them for defamation, for lying about the struggle of millions of people and our leaders, but we can’t." - TAMARA PEARSON - VENEZUELANALYSIS.COM
If the socialized healthcare of
Venezuela is so great, how come Hugo Chavez went to Cuba for his healthcare?
Did he take his own sheets for his hospital bed?
Anonymous, is your last name "Koch" by any chance?
Why, is Koch the only one who dares to question liberal beliefs and failures of same and then expose them to the light of truth?
If so, then I'm gladly named Koch!
What a minute, they cant do this, its against the law to provide health insurance plans that dont meet the approval of the ACA TAX.
"Health insurer Anthem Blue Cross of California has agreed to a two-month extension of about 104,000 individual policies after failing to give the required 90-day cancellation notice, state Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones announced Tuesday.
The policies had been set to expire on Dec. 31 but will be extended until Feb. 28 for those who choose to re-enroll. Notices informing customers of the extension will be sent out this week, Anthem said." CBS News
Basically, 104,000 individual policies that were suppose to be dumped at the start of 2014 due to Obamcare, will be extended for two months to comply with California’s laws, which violate Federal Obamacare laws.
Talk about a cluster f#ck! All from the most transparent President ever, the smartest man in the room, and yes we should blame the black guy and the idiots who elected him, twice.
"A humanitarian crisis is about to hit millions who could find themselves without health insurance. Millions who had their insurance policies cancelled are now unable to re-insure themselves on the broken ObamaCare websites."
Even if they could afford the replacement Obama approved policy's, they still not able to use the $600 million website created by cronies of the White House.
Come on compassionate liberals, what's your plan to fix the mess you created and so faithfully supported, lies and all?
Who are you going to blame?
The most trusted voice in America on Obamacare isn’t the president — or most of the media, Congress or insurance companies. It’s Fox News Channel.
Just 11 percent said that President Obama is the most trusted source of Obamacare information, about half of those who cite Fox, at 19 percent.
Worse for Obama, who has been fumbling over his oft-stated and false promise that Americans will be able keep their insurance under his namesake program, just 35 percent told YouGov.com that they trust his word a lot or some, while 52 percent said they trust him not too much or not at all.
As with many polls about Fox, Democrats trust the cable network’s Obamacare information less than Republicans, but it still stands out as one of the nation’s leading sources on the health care law.
YouGov.com question: Which ONE of the following sources of information about the new health care law do you trust the MOST?
Fox News — 19 percent
Friends and family — 17 percent
President Obama — 11 percent
National Public Radio — 10 percent
Your insurance company — 9 percent
Local TV news — 6 percent
Republicans in Congress — 4 percent
MSNBC — 3 percent
BBC News — 3 percent
CNN — 3 percent
CBS News — 2 percent
NBC News — 2 percent
Obama administration officials — 2 percent
Democrats in Congress — 2 percent
Wall Street Journal — 2 percent
Local daily newspaper — 2 percent
Come on compassionate liberals, what's your plan to fix the mess you created and so faithfully supported, lies and all?
Somebody can't read. The same somebody who refuses to answer the same question I've posed.
Who are you going to blame?
Republicans, for originating the scheme, and Republicans and corpo-dems for obstructing a public option.
Medicare for all is still the most sane and compassionate system of healthcare.
Why waste billions of dollars to middlemen coverage-denying corporations that DO NOT provide care?
So what's YOUR plan, Chuckie?
Yeah, we know. "Let 'em die".
Blame the Black Guy!
"Officials at one one of the nation's oldest and most elite historically black colleges are citing the Affordable Care Act (ACA) as the reason they have cancelled a school-wide affordable health care plan they had offered students.
The official website for Bowie State, a Maryland public school less than an hour's drive from Washington D.C., explains that Obamacare's new regulations would force the cost of the insurance to rise from $50 to $900 a semester.
"The cost of insurance for domestic students will increase to approximately $1800 per year." Tweet This
"Bowie State University has suspended offering health insurance for domestic students for the 2013-2014 academic year," states the school's official website. "Due to new requirements of the Affordable Care Act which will go into effect on January 1, 2014, the cost of insurance for domestic students will increase to approximately $1800 per year."
That works out to approximately $900 per semester. The student health insurance plan had cost students $50 per semester for the 2012-13 school year, according to a cached page of the university's description of the plan. The original link to the description has been deleted.
According to an article in The Bulldog Collegian, Bowie State's official student newspaper, the Director of the Bowie State University Wellness Center said that the university decided it would not be worth it to provide student health insurance at all given how expensive it would be to do so under the new regulations."
- See more at: http://campusreform.org
"President Obama listened to Republican gripes about his stimulus package during a meeting with congressional leaders Friday morning - but he also left no doubt about who's in charge of these negotiations. "I won," Obama noted matter-of-factly, according to sources familiar with the conversation."
You won, you crapped in your own hat, you laughed at compassionate conservatism, you continue to lie to us, you were the designer of your own train wreck, when you say the canceled policy's were not good enough, you are lying, you claim its the Republican's fault for "originating the scheme", you want single payer, like they have in Cuba and Canada and you want something from me?
What are you willing to give up for our help? What are you willing to admit is a failure, what are you willing to take 100% of the blame for?
If nothing, then remember, "you won"!
P.S. People trust fricking Fox News more on health care than our faux transparent President, who along with his brain trust, created the ACA Tax.
Gee, it sounds like Chuckie's mad because insurance companies are raising rates to match better coverage requirements.
I got a plan that does something about that, besides blaming the Black Guy.
How about you, Chuckie?
PERIOD!
Fox news polls their own people and then says "People trust us".
Fox news viewers have been found to be the least informed on almost every subject.
But you keep trying Anonymous, it's very entertaining.
Mozart,
Cuba and Canada
Same thing to the Bubble Cult.
About YouGov America, the ones who did the poll showing Fox News was more trusted when it came to Obama care that Obama.
PERIOD!
"YouGov is a professional research and consulting organization, pioneering the use of technology to collect higher quality, in-depth data for companies, governments, and institutions so that they can better serve the people that sustain them.
In 2007, YouGov acquired Polimetrix, a venture-funded, non-partisan online polling firm founded by Stanford University Professor Douglas Rivers.
At YouGov America, we leverage our online sampling and research expertise to conduct polls and deliver insights for political, media, university, non-profit, and marketing organizations. Now, as part of a global organization, we can deliver this same expertise on a global scale."
"Fox news polls their own people and then says "People trust us"."
Another liberal excuse for losing proven to be untrue. Democrats and civil rights groups have long argued that voter ID requirements suppress turnout, particularly in poor and minority communities.
Texas voter ID requirements were passed after 2011 elections.
Texas mid term elections 2013 1,099,670 votes cast.
Texas elections 2011 672,874 votes cast.
In Hidalgo County, which is 90 percent Hispanic,
Votes cast in 2013 16,000
Votes cast in 2011 4,000
PERIOD!!
I find Christi despicable in all ways!
Modusoperandi said...
Anonymous,
"Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien." ~ Voltaire
You have a problema saying that in English?
"The cancellations will affect only a small number of people, those who buy individual policies."
In making this claim, the president focuses on the individual market, which he accurately notes covers about 5 percent of Americans. Still, that is about 14 to 15 million people. So far, as of mid November, roughly 4.8 million individual insurance plans have been canceled, with most estimates suggesting that as many as 10 million will eventually lose their current coverage.
But the same conditions that are causing the cancellation of individual policies will eventually result in the cancellation of millions of employment-based policies as well. The only reason that hasn’t happened yet is that the employer mandate was postponed for a year, so employer plans don’t yet have to be ACA-compliant. But they will. Even the Congressional Budget Office estimates that as many as 20 million workers will lose their current employer-sponsored plans. Combine that with those losing individual plans, and more than 30 million Americans cannot keep their current insurance.
It could be far more. As Avik Roy of the Manhattan Institute points out, some 51 percent of the employer-based insurance market will lose grandfathered status and need to make changes to comply with Obamacare provisions. That could mean that, in total, as many as 93 million will lose their insurance. That’s not exactly “a few.”
PERIOD!!
Former Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean questioned whether President Obama has the "legal authority" to carry out the Obamacare fix the White House outlined today:
“I wonder if he has the legal authority to do this, since this was a congressional bill that set this up,” said Dean of Obama's proposed fix.
The former Vermont governor suggested that since the Obamacare website isn't working, the president's signature legislation might fail.
Me too Dr. Dean, I'm trying to find in the Constitution where the power is given to the President to void or change laws passed by Congress, signed by the President, and defamed legal by the Supreme Court. After all, "I am an old-fashioned American citizen who believes in our traditional values of freedom, truth, and justice. When I see our LAWS and government SUBVERTED and twisted into service of the undemocratic, powerful, corporate oligarchy, I must react with a patriotic defense of our values. I strongly oppose the ongoing destruction of what is left of American democracy and shall give voice to our common cause of freedom."
Unless of course, by doing so I blame the black guy.
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