Our Three Party System
Call them "Republicans" no more.
The nice folks over at the McClatchy News Service announced yesterday that some imbecile named Mike Lee, a senator from Utah, will be delivering the Tea Party's response to Barack Obama's State of the Union Address on January 28. There will be two different counterpoints from two different political parties.
Anyone who is still in denial regarding the future of the Grand Old Party should take note. It's becoming clearer-by-the-day that if the Republican nominee in 2016 is not the mentally ill extremist of the Tea Party's liking they will mount a third party uprising - which is what they have effectively already done. Their argument is that defeating that evil, KNEE-GROW Marxist should have been a foregone conclusion. They failed to take back the Executive Mansion because (GET THIS!) Mitt Romney was too Liberal. That's right, boys and girls! The man who accused forty-seven percent of the American people of being a conspiracy of Communists, beggars and thieves was too much of a bomb-throwing lefty for these assholes. Life is good.
What is happening is that the conservatives are virtually guaranteeing that on Inauguration Day 2017 - for the first time since 1857 - one Democratic administration will hand over the reigns of power to another Democratic administration. Although preferable to the alternative scenario, this is not necessarily "good" news. While there is still a molecule of hope for the Dems, there is still too much corruption and incompetence within the structure of that party too make any of us comfortable. Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown are the happy exceptions to a very nasty rule. They used to be the party of Franklin Roosevelt. Today it is hard not to think of them as the party of Chuck Schumer. Bad vibes abound.
But the essential fact is that the GOP has become virtually unelectable on a national scale. George W. Bush is the last Republican who will ever call the White House "home". How could it have possibly come to this? How could a political party founded by the generation of Abraham Lincoln have fallen this low? What the hell happened?
The mortal wound was self-inflicted. In the mid-sixties they began to court the overtly racist Dixiecrats who fled the Democrats en masse after the passage of the Voting and Civil Rights Acts. Fifteen years later, after the nomination of Ronald Reagan, they started to woo the terminally brain-damaged. That is why that disgusting party today finds itself festering in an ideological sewer. They were bound to end up in a bad place. It's such an amusing thing to watch the spectacle of people like Karl Rove trying desperately to kill this Frankenstein monster that they helped create. These really are interesting times.
What we are facing is the dawn of a three-party age: One party is right/center/left, the other leans far to the right (there are no more "moderate" Republicans), and the third leans so extremely to the right that it is in danger of falling off the face of the earth. This bodes well, obviously, for the Democrats. Although the Republicans may survive for a few years in the congress and in Statehouses here and there, as a national party they're through - finis - KAPUT.
IT'S CURTAINS, ROCKY!
I almost sympathize with them for the run of bad luck they've been having lately...."almost", mind you. Two months ago, New Jersey governor, Chris Christie, was looked upon as the political messiah who would lead the Republicans out of the desert and onto the mountaintop. Kiss that dream goodbye. As it turns out, "Bridge-gate" was only the tip of an even naughtier political iceberg. The governor is being revealed as a common thug. When it came out that his administration denied funds to the city of Hoboken that were supposed to be spent on the cleanup in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy - for political reasons - his presidential aspirations (real or imagined) went into the toilet. His only consolation at this point is the stark fact that he never had a chance of getting nominated. The freaks and fools who now control his party would have seen to that. Interesting times indeed.
And the 64 IQ question is this: Whom will they nominate in 2016? I have learned that even attempting to predict something like that this far in advance is an exercise in utter futility. But hear me out: I'm praying that they give it to Ted Cruz - or Rand Paul - or better still: A CRUZ/PAUL (or PAUL/CRUZ) TICKET!!! Wouldn't that be sick??? And as I said before, it's not too far out of the realm of possibility to see either one of them trying to pull a "Strom Thurmond" on their party.
At their 1948 convention, when the liberal wing of the Democratic party dared to demand that a comprehensive Civil Rights amendment be included in the party's platform, Old Strom and the racist Dixiecrats who used to control that party walked out and ran Thurmond as the "States' Rights" candidate. Don't be too surprised if something similar occurs in 2016.
Whatever happens in two years, I am certain of this: As delightfully twisted as the 2012 Republican primaries were, 2016 is going to be the icing on the cake. If I never live to see another campaign season I just want to make it to that one. Watching that disgusting party destroy itself these past ten years has been more fun than I think I've ever had in my life.
Sometimes I've got to pinch myself. I really do!
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
AFTERTHOUGHT:
Sorry for the long pause, folks. We've been just a tad distracted recently. Thank you to Linda Madon for inspiring me to come out of dreamland and write something.
BREAKING NEWS, 1/28/14:
I'm a little melancholy on this chilly January morning. Our neighbor across the river, Pete Seeger, has died. In a little over three months he would have turned ninety-five. A good run - a very good run - and a life nobly and beautifully lived.
This Land Is Your Land
As I was walking that ribbon of highway
I saw above me that endless skyway
I saw below me that golden valley
This land was made for you and me....
If anyone is looking for me today, cup your ear and follow the sound of Pete's voice. That's where you'll find me.
Anyone who is still in denial regarding the future of the Grand Old Party should take note. It's becoming clearer-by-the-day that if the Republican nominee in 2016 is not the mentally ill extremist of the Tea Party's liking they will mount a third party uprising - which is what they have effectively already done. Their argument is that defeating that evil, KNEE-GROW Marxist should have been a foregone conclusion. They failed to take back the Executive Mansion because (GET THIS!) Mitt Romney was too Liberal. That's right, boys and girls! The man who accused forty-seven percent of the American people of being a conspiracy of Communists, beggars and thieves was too much of a bomb-throwing lefty for these assholes. Life is good.
What is happening is that the conservatives are virtually guaranteeing that on Inauguration Day 2017 - for the first time since 1857 - one Democratic administration will hand over the reigns of power to another Democratic administration. Although preferable to the alternative scenario, this is not necessarily "good" news. While there is still a molecule of hope for the Dems, there is still too much corruption and incompetence within the structure of that party too make any of us comfortable. Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown are the happy exceptions to a very nasty rule. They used to be the party of Franklin Roosevelt. Today it is hard not to think of them as the party of Chuck Schumer. Bad vibes abound.
But the essential fact is that the GOP has become virtually unelectable on a national scale. George W. Bush is the last Republican who will ever call the White House "home". How could it have possibly come to this? How could a political party founded by the generation of Abraham Lincoln have fallen this low? What the hell happened?
The mortal wound was self-inflicted. In the mid-sixties they began to court the overtly racist Dixiecrats who fled the Democrats en masse after the passage of the Voting and Civil Rights Acts. Fifteen years later, after the nomination of Ronald Reagan, they started to woo the terminally brain-damaged. That is why that disgusting party today finds itself festering in an ideological sewer. They were bound to end up in a bad place. It's such an amusing thing to watch the spectacle of people like Karl Rove trying desperately to kill this Frankenstein monster that they helped create. These really are interesting times.
What we are facing is the dawn of a three-party age: One party is right/center/left, the other leans far to the right (there are no more "moderate" Republicans), and the third leans so extremely to the right that it is in danger of falling off the face of the earth. This bodes well, obviously, for the Democrats. Although the Republicans may survive for a few years in the congress and in Statehouses here and there, as a national party they're through - finis - KAPUT.
IT'S CURTAINS, ROCKY!
I almost sympathize with them for the run of bad luck they've been having lately...."almost", mind you. Two months ago, New Jersey governor, Chris Christie, was looked upon as the political messiah who would lead the Republicans out of the desert and onto the mountaintop. Kiss that dream goodbye. As it turns out, "Bridge-gate" was only the tip of an even naughtier political iceberg. The governor is being revealed as a common thug. When it came out that his administration denied funds to the city of Hoboken that were supposed to be spent on the cleanup in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy - for political reasons - his presidential aspirations (real or imagined) went into the toilet. His only consolation at this point is the stark fact that he never had a chance of getting nominated. The freaks and fools who now control his party would have seen to that. Interesting times indeed.
Randy and Teddy |
At their 1948 convention, when the liberal wing of the Democratic party dared to demand that a comprehensive Civil Rights amendment be included in the party's platform, Old Strom and the racist Dixiecrats who used to control that party walked out and ran Thurmond as the "States' Rights" candidate. Don't be too surprised if something similar occurs in 2016.
Whatever happens in two years, I am certain of this: As delightfully twisted as the 2012 Republican primaries were, 2016 is going to be the icing on the cake. If I never live to see another campaign season I just want to make it to that one. Watching that disgusting party destroy itself these past ten years has been more fun than I think I've ever had in my life.
Sometimes I've got to pinch myself. I really do!
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
AFTERTHOUGHT:
Sorry for the long pause, folks. We've been just a tad distracted recently. Thank you to Linda Madon for inspiring me to come out of dreamland and write something.
Pete |
I'm a little melancholy on this chilly January morning. Our neighbor across the river, Pete Seeger, has died. In a little over three months he would have turned ninety-five. A good run - a very good run - and a life nobly and beautifully lived.
This Land Is Your Land
As I was walking that ribbon of highway
I saw above me that endless skyway
I saw below me that golden valley
This land was made for you and me....
If anyone is looking for me today, cup your ear and follow the sound of Pete's voice. That's where you'll find me.
42 Comments:
Can't wait until the Nov 2014 elections.
Well, there is always another Bush out there somewhere . . They keep multiplying like Texas Rabbits!
My prediction is Jeb/Cristie. CC will pull it out the ditch, get into the passing lane, and make headway. Afterall in day's amped up society, it is great way to draw attention and tons ink will be spent on propoganda publicity.
And so the race begins . . .
Yup, the Clinton's are almost as bad as the Bush's. Or the Kennedy's.
Or the Levin's and Dingell's of Michigan
Obama isn't incompetent, he simply doesn't share the same objectives as those who continue to naively believe that a president always wants what is best for the nation. Not this one. Obama has done nothing that can be construed as beneficial to America, which should be everyone's first clue as to his truly destructive intent.
Obama is overseeing the nihilistic stage of a Gramscian coup and doing everything in his power to weaken, diminish, and humiliate the United States of America. He also has a virulent racial animus toward the white majority. He despises Jews, conservatives, and Christians. If we hope to continue to live in a free and prosperous democratic republic, the entire nation needs to join in a collective dry heave and expunge power from him in Nov 2014.
This is not your father's Democrat party.
Losing your insurance, thank a Democrat & Obama
Losing your Doctor, thank a Democrat & Obama
Paying much higher insurance premiums, thank a Democrat & Obama
Forced to buy coverage you don't need, thank a Democrat & Obama
Paying much higher deductibles, thank a Democrat & Obama
Losing access to your hospital, thank a Democrat & Obama
Paying higher co-pays, thank a Democrat & Obama
Medicaid services being cut, thank a Democrat & Obama
Receiving a lower standard of care, thank a Democrat & Obama
Paying higher taxes, thank a Democrat & Obama
Only able to find a Part-Time job, thank a Democrat & Obama
Losing hours at work, thank a Democrat & Obama
Totally losing your job, thank a Democrat & Obama
Giving Iraq and Afghanistan back to the terrorists, thank a Democrat & Obama
Letting Iran build a nuke, thank a Democrat & Obama
Access to good weed, thank a Democrat & Obama
This is what we can expect to happen to any one speaking out against the Democrats between now and 2016.
A Hollywood conservative educational group with no political agenda is being targeted by the IRS and were actually told by the agent on their case that they were being targeted. Seriously!
therightscoop.com/irs-targets-conservative-groups-and-tells-them-they-are-being-targeted/
REUTERS – Dinesh D’Souza, a conservative commentator and best-selling author, has been indicted by a federal grand jury for arranging excessive campaign contributions to a candidate for the U.S. Senate.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s re-election campaign and the state’s Republican Party committee have received subpoenas from federal prosecutors investigating allegations that his aides created traffic jams as political payback.
Conservative activist James O'Keefe is accusing New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration of targeting his group with document requests and a subpoena, claiming the Democratic governor's recent comments critical of conservatives "aren't simply words." The group claims its finances are "meticulously maintained to the penny" and calls the inquiries "meritless." A statement said Project Veritas would be relocating to New Jersey.
Further, the group claimed that it complied with an earlier document request and showed up for a scheduled meeting on Dec. 13, but state labor officers "never showed up."
"Just like the IRS, they are simply intimidating and targeting us," Project Veritas said in a statement, while also trying to raise money off the allegations.
Women’s Health Rapid Response Fund accused Republicans of embracing a “revolting anti-choice agenda” for supporting pro-life candidates and organizations.
NY Times Executive Editor Says Obama Regime “Most Secretive White House” She(Jill Abramson) Has Ever Covered…
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) proposed using the Internal Revenue Service to curtail Tea Party group funding during a speech on how to “exploit” and “weaken” the movement at the Center for American Progress on Thursday.
Arguing that Tea Party groups have a financial advantage after the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision, Schumer said the Obama administration should bypass Congress and institute new campaign finance rules through the IRS.
“It is clear that we will not pass anything legislatively as long as the House of Representatives is in Republican control, but there are many things that can be done administratively by the IRS and other government agencies—we must redouble those efforts immediately,” Schumer said.
“One of the great advantages the Tea Party has is the huge holes in our campaign finance laws created [by] the ill advised decision [Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission],” Schumer said. “Obviously the Tea Party elites gained extraordinary influence by being able to funnel millions of dollars into campaigns with ads that distort the truth and attack government.”
This is not your father's Democrat Party.
In 2011, a prominent Los Angeles attorney, Pierce O’Donnell, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of making $20,000 in donations to the presidential campaign of former Sen. John Edwards and reimbursing straw donors.
Misdemeanor!
Same charges against Dinesh D’Souza, a conservative commentator, a felony.
In America, we used to have a long tradition of not doing what is commonly done in too many other countries -- criminalizing dissent through the selective enforcement of the law.
What is wrong with the Conservatives posting here, are they too lazy to sign in with a Bob or John so I could respond properly? Are you afraid Liberals will hunt you down if you sign in with anything other than Anonymous.
I have lately been using my real full name to show the Conservatives how manly and brave I am compared to them.
Based on the statements of the Governor of NY and the actions of the Justice Dept, the NSA, FBI, and the IRS, there is good reason to remain anonymous if you are a conservative.
I'm sorry but I have my heat turned full blast but my nuts are still cold!
Should I still by telling my "unscientific" KKK NAZI tea bagger friends that I have waffled on global warming and we are now experiencing global cooling?
Maybe those East Anglican climate "experts" who fudged their data can stick that hockey stick graph right up their arse!
Dave Dubya, I am thinking of leaving your global warming cult.
nDinesh D’Souza, the conservative scholar who made the documentary “2016: Obama’s America,” pleaded not guilty on Friday to charges that he violated campaign finance laws and was released on $500,000 bond. His travel was also reportedly restricted to the United States.
Soon there will be just one party, the liberal Democrat party.
This is not your father's Democrat Party.
Bill Ayers is known for his 1960s radical activism. In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communist revolutionary group that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings (including police stations, the U.S. Capitol Building, and the Pentagon) during the 1960s and 1970s in response to U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
Dinesh D'Souza will debate Bill Ayers at the end of January, the first time the two men will meet on stage together. They will debate on the topic “What’s so great about America?” The event is open to the public and will be livestreamed on DineshDSouza.com for free.
Dartmouth DebateTopic: What’s So Great About America?
Location: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Online Stream:live.dineshdsouza.com
Date: January 30th, 2014
Time: 7:30 PM
Tom, this looks like a great road trip. If you haven't done so already, this would be an opportunity to meet the first Occupy Wall Streeter, Mr Ayers.
I'll be watching on on my Mac.
TOM,
I read your post on the SundayReview|Op-Ed Columnist of the NY Times dated Jan 25, 2014. You state there that you had recently smoked pot for the first time in 30 years.
Odd, but that's the same thing you said on Oct.29, 2012 on your blog "The Rant".
Would you care to explain?
Sure. Wouldn't you consider less than a year-and-a-half to be fairly recent? I also tried it again just before Christmas. That's pretty recent, too.
Why don't you explain yourself instead?
When I smoke pot again, I will.
James Hansen, just give it up. The anonymous trolls - or who knows, one troll? will never give a name. Like the school yard bully, they just want to throw rocks at everyone else then run and hide behind a tree. They are simply lily livered cowards.
Tom's blog used to have some interesting dialogue with some give and take, but now the trolls have taken over and can not even stay on subject.
Hasn't anyone told you about the right wing troll program to bring down progressive blogs by spamming them with baloney? (No pun intended.)
I'm kidding, of course. But also, I'm not kidding. The Koch brothers are funding a noise machine, intended to drown out intelligent discourse with Tea Party nonsense. Repeat it enough, and uncritical people start to believe you. (In one Texas school district, they've tried to ban teaching critical thinking.)
The right wing Supreme Court declared that money is speech. Wrong. Money buys noise to drown out speech. As long as speech is dominated by the biggest contributors, freedom is at peril.
Yours crankily,
(and a bit disjointedly this morning)
The New York Crank
Exactly, NYCrank.
That's one of the reasons I disagree with those who constantly suggest we simply ignore the RWNJs. If they're allowed to spout their talking points without counter at all times, then people will start to believe them.
Ask the French if building the Maginot Line then ignoring what was on the other side helped any. Sigh.
Trolls on blogs, however, are another story. I've pretty much given up on reading any comment that's anonymous. And Tom has been thoroughly infested, which I guess means he scares them.
So, "Yellowstone" or "Mozart" or "The New York Crank" isn't considered anonymous? Just looking for clarification.
By the way, the blogosphere is inherently a rather anonymous venue, so if anonymity bugs you, it likely isn't the forum for you...
My observation of our culture in general is that people are typically ill-prepared to coherently defend their position, and that anxiety leads to a strategy of silencing dissenting opinion. Simply stated, we cannot debate anymore - we only know how to root for 'our team'. If you root for the other team, I will shout you down.
It would be comical if it weren't so dangerous.
"The Koch brothers are funding a noise machine"
And you can provide evidence to support that claim if it effects this blog?
Dunno if this is aimed at me or not, but just in case:
So, "Yellowstone" or "Mozart" or "The New York Crank" isn't considered anonymous? Just looking for clarification.
I don't consider them 'anonymous' because they at least have a name that they're hooked to. Therefore, I can tell if they're going to, on the average, be someone who sticks to the point of the conversation and is therefore worth reading (whether I agree with him/her or not). Someone who won't even bother with a screen name is frequently (though not always) just a drive-by jerk, so I don't bother. You're an example. I usually disagree with you, but I do read your comments, because I know that your name is someone worth reading.
By the way, the blogosphere is inherently a rather anonymous venue, so if anonymity bugs you, it likely isn't the forum for you
That's arrogant, rather silly, and totally beneath you. You're better than that.
I do not know how you could interpret Hurley's innocuous statement of fact about the internet as being silly or arrogant. Yours post is oddly aggressive for no apparent reason.
The problem has become what is being expressed is less important than who expressed it!
If a position is taken that is supported by clear factual evidence, it disregarded if not our right attacked if the poster is anonymous.
There are examples of this through out this blog. As there are examples of posts by named posters whose positions can not and are not supported. But because they agree with the stated agenda of the owner of the blog, they are not called into accountability.
The past accusation that a conservative poster is on the pay roll of the Koch's has
come back into vogue. As if to say the poster doesn't really mean what they say, they are just being paid to say it. Which allows for the avoidance of honest debate.
Wow. It only took three posts before Anonymous tourned yet another blog into an anti Obama whinefest.
Tom
See if you can picture this tv ad.....
Video of Hillary working hard, burning the midnight oil and the audio asking "Who do you trust with the 3AM phone call?"
Followed by video of Chris Stevens dead body being carried on the streets of Benghazi with the audio being Hillary's shrill voice screaming "what difference, at this point, does it make!"
Followed by video of all the women who were victims of Bill Clinton's War On Women crimes followed by video of Hillary's face and audio of Tammy Wynettes "Stand By Your Man."
Now tell me how America will vote for her besides LIFs (low information voters) and immigrants who can't speak english looking for free stuff redistributed from the sweat of others!
Mozart,
Instead of whining because about anti Obama posts, why dont you post something positive about the President? Something that he has kept his promise on, something you are proud of him for doing. Surely after over five years in the White House there must be a ton of things you can say that are positive about Obama?
KanaW
Fair enough. Didn't mean to come across as arrogant. My point is even if a name is attached, it is still inherently anonymous. My name, for example, may really not be Harley... But I see your concern is more with continuity rather than anonymity. I understand.
Anonymous comments don't bother me nor do the silly "drive by" comments. I do wish Tom would delete the random and usually off topic cut-and-pastes though. They just clog up the comment section.
MSNBC host Rachel Maddow tried to tie the Koch Brothers to a Florida free market group on Monday by noting that the Kochs have ties to the Institute for Humane Studies (IHS), which has paid stipends to interns at the group.
Maddow did not mention that IHS has also paid students to intern at MSNBC, according to its website.
How dare MSNBC take Koch Brothers Blood money!
Chuck, I'm proud of him standing up to the Teabaggers who are trying to take over the country. I'm proud of him trying to help the poor and middle class. I'm proud of how he handled bin Laden, Gaddaffi, and Sryia. I'm proud of how he's trying to get us out of the two needless wars Bush started. I'm proud of how hge saved us from an all out depression brought upon by "conservative" policies.
That enough for ya? Now can Anonymous and others give the Fox news inspired propaganda filled, whine fest a rest for a couple blogs?
Ok Mozart you posted things the President has done that you believe are good, that you are proud of.
Hang onto your hat, but with the exception of killing Bin Laden I disagree with every thing you said.
Now, would it be whining if I gave you statics and facts to support my statement?
I'm wondering how exactly you figure the Tea Partiers (I won't repeat your foul appelation) are trying to take over the country. Near as I can tell, the message from the Tea Party is "Leave me the hell alone". I don't see Tea Party adherents advocating policies that put 1/6 of America's GDP under government control . . . .
Completely ignoring the ignoranymous, I'm guessing the next TP/GOP nomination will be Scott Walker and Kelly Ayotte. That's my prediction, and I'm sticking to it.
The battle we face is not about dem vs republican. It’s simultaneously much more complex and yet, at the same time, very simple.
The complex? Enemies have aligned themselves to eradicate traditional America, and it does not matter what their individual goals are, for the overwhelming goal is the destruction of what once was.
Thus communists, unions, homosexuals, pedophiles, athiests, the uber-rich, the drooling media, connected financial interests, Hollywood, the education system, low information voters (the intentionally ignorant), Islamists, globalists, Wiccans, the anti-Semite coupled with radical Jews, and more are unified against you.
The simple? We are fighting for western civilization. Yes, western, European styled civilization. Not Asian, whose long history is one of absolute despotism; nor African, whose history is replete with savage black and arab slave masters and an inability to sustain anything beyond a mud hut, nor Indian, whose history again, is rigid in caste and opulent in human misery. Only western philosophy, grounded in Christianity, has ever produced functioning societies that not only recognized the worth of life, but celebrated that worth.
A very bleak time for humanity is descending, and that bitter rain will fall on the just and unjust, as well.
Unknown -
You are spot on, I think. I run in conservative circles and and don't know anyone who is overtly a "Tea Party" devotee. Sure, we may resonate with some of what they say, but I think the movement is simply a congealing of growing libertarian sentiment. And, God forbid they should organize and express their political opinion... because we all know liberal political machines never touch a nickel of private money...
And, what is confusing to me, is that the "Tea Party" (aka Libertarianism) does hold some common ground with "progressives". One example being a disdain for crony capitalism and undue political influence. But, they'll never know that because they can't hear each other amidst all the shouting.
I stand behind my earlier assertion. Folks don't try to hear what other "sides" are saying - they simply want to shout them down for fear their own opinions might not be that well thought out.
The other strong force of human nature at play is the eternal search for the one "bogey man" that is the cause of all our problems. Right now, for the left, it is the Tea Party. When, in fact, the Tea Party is the one organized group who can legitimately claim they had NOTHING to do with the current mess we're in...
Harley
I never thought about the fact that the Tea Party is "the one organized group who can legitimately claim they had NOTHING to do with the current mess we're in..."
Since they came into being in the last four years (2010), they did not create our mess, but were formed in an attempt to clean up the mess.
The elections of 2010 were the first time they flexed their political muscle. It is odd that they are now viewed as the central point of all evil.
"the one organized group who can legitimately claim they had NOTHING to do with the current mess we're in..."
Except of course, as individuals they are Republicans, and they voted for GWB. HE had something to do with the mess we're in.
don't know anyone who is overtly a "Tea Party" devotee
We know their sponsors.
The Tea Party is a pseudo populist group advancing the agenda of big money Republicans. Rupert (FOX) Murdoch, Dick Armey’s Freedom Works, and the Koch's Americans for Prosperity, are using this facade as leverage for the agenda of the top .01%.
They are corporatist servants of mammon, not libertarians. Not one sign at their rallies said, "End the drug war" or "end the wars and occupations".
Interestingly, not one of these uber wealthy Republicans condemned the racist signs at the "FOX tea party" rallies. Did you see the photo at the top of the post? That is the tea party.
The Tea Party was created by, of, and for Republicans.
Really.
When you want them to be a separatist splinter group, they are. When you want them to be mainstream Republicans, they are... whatever is expedient at the time...
I voted GWB too and am not a huge fan of his. Lots of folks voted for Obama who aren't necessarily huge Obama fans anymore. Who a person votes for, given a choice between 2 people out of 300,000,000 doesn't necessarily define the totality of that person's value system.
Certainly, all of the photos of signs that are chosen to adorn liberal blogs are hand-picked to paint the picture the author wants to paint. So, now that represents the totality of thought of the "Tea Party"? Not unless you are given to a propagandist mentality...
Also, DD, neither Islam nor Marxism are races. They are ideologies.
So, it would be fair to claim the sign-holder is misguided if you believe it is an unfair characterization of Obama, but you cannot fairly conclude the man is a racist based on his sign. To do that, you are using the aid of the thought police...
Harley,
First of all let me say I loathe the Democratic Party as a junior partner in Republican corporatism.
But there are good reasons that clearly make the Dems a lesser evil.
That sign pictured is held by a brainwashed frightened idiot. The racist signs showed Obama as a witch doctor or worse.
Not a word of condemnation from the GOP.
So yes, the Tea Party was created by, of, and for Republicans. And they more than tolerate lies and hate.
Really.
What happened after Glenn Beck called Obama a "racist with a deep seated hatred for white people"?
Nothing.
Murdoch and Ailes agreed, and continued to pay Beck millions of dollars; that's what happened.
Please. Bush lied and thousands died. Obama lied and nobody died.
Here's some more GOP/Tea Party condoned hatred and ignorance:
"Hillary Clinton is the Antichrist." Republican State Senator Ryan Zinke now running for Congress in Montana.
"I felt my freedom starting to go away in 2008 when a communist got elected." Victoria Jackson, Huntsville Tea Party rally.
Constituent: I want to ask you about Obama, he's not President as far as I'm concerned, he should be executed...
Congressman Jim Bridenstine (R-OK): Don't hold back now.
Constituent: The Muslims that he is shipping into our country through pilots in commercial jets. What's this, I can't tell you since we are in a public place, this guy is a criminal, nobody's stopping him, the other thing is the congress is doing nothing that legally allows this moron to make decisions. He has no authority none, and he's just we are just saying he shouldn't do this he shouldn't do that, but nobody's doing anything that accomplishing anything.
Bridenstine: Look everybody knows the lawlessness of this President.
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Yup, Obama can be accused of being a commie/nazi/criminal/socialist and most Republicans either condone it or encourage it.
At least McCain had the decency to tell one frightened woman Obama was not an "Arab Muslim".
Decency and the GOP have long parted ways, as their mouthpieces and propagandists scapegoat and demonize liberals for every evil on the planet. This is exactly how fascism insinuates itself.
A vote for the GOP is, more than ever, the same as condoning their behavior. If not, then ignorance is the only excuse.
God knows there's a lot of that going around.
Quite the contrary, I love your postings--I thought all the real liberals were dead. God bless you! (And you are right, it will be a VERY interesting two years.) MiddleMittenLiberal
You know nothing of the history of the Republican Party although you claim to. I could be wrong but the only reason the civil rights acts passed was because of republican votes. More minorities pulled themselves out of poverty under Reagan than Obama. All Obama has done is lock them in a place with no hopes of escaping. Before you call me racist my girlfriend is mixed race and I love her family as much as my own. It's a truly great family. Her farther a black conservative business owner who never asked anyone else for help but his own sweat and hard work. One last thing wasn't the leader of the senate Bird a KKK leader for many years. So if your gonna sling dirt sling it both ways. Romney was to liberal 3 million republicans stayed home and didn't vote so if they did? Bye bye Obama. Obama would have lost. Bush won twice and while not close to perfect was more conservative than Romney.
People can be brainwashed very easy. The things democrats have said are unbelievable. Obama sat in a church where the pastor called white people the great evil. Also Obama is a communist. He grew up raised by two communists. His parents met in a Russian language class hello??? He went to a private school and out front they had a Chinese communist sickle. The school touted Chinese communist ideology. Really look at Obama's upbringing. Also under USA at the time when Obama was born in Hawaii he only had one US parent that was a citizen. To be a naturalized US born citizen you needed two at that time. One parent could transfer their citizenship to the other parent but they needed to be in the USA for 6 years over the age of 12. She was 17 so she couldn't transfer the citizenship to the other parent. Today's laws you only need you USA citizen parent but that doesn't matter. The law at the time is what mattered. She you make fun of these people but it still stands Obama is not eligible to be president. They used today's laws for his eligibility but that was not how it works. The law at the time is what matters,
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