Thursday, September 15, 2011

DIE! DIE! DIE!

Brian Williams:
"Your state has executed two-hundred and thirty-four death row inmates, mo
re than any governor of modern times [Cheers from the audience] Have you struggled to sleep at night with the idea that any one of those might have been innocent?"

Rick Perry:
"No sir, I never struggled with that at all."

From the GOP Presidential Debate
7 September 2011

Ah, yes! I love it! Civics for sociopaths! Politics to die for! Life is quite beautiful thank you very much.

Two debates in the space of five days? Somebody up there must like me. In the midst
of the first one I asked myself out loud, "Am I hallucinating this?" I wasn't. This was very real indeed. Thanks to the miracle of modern technology I was able to record both spectacles onto DVD for posterity. Looking at them again last evening was not the ordeal you might imagine. To the contrary it was loads of fun to watch! Unintentional comedy always is - and these twits are the Marx Brothers of unintentional comedy.

The delightful, knee-slapping highlight in accidental rib-ticklers this week was provided by, of course, our precious Michele Bachmann. I'm really gonna miss that gal. Claiming that a certain vaccination for cervical cancer causes mental retardation she pretty much banged the final nail in her campaign's coffin. Her source for this ludicrous claim? Some woman she had never even met before told her so. It reminded me of that classic scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

"She turned me into a newt!"

"A NEWT???"

"
I got better."

I've been saying for quite some time that the GOP is the party of the plutocracy, and that it has been hijacked by a cabal of white-collar criminals, half-wits and crazy people. I'm not giving away any state secrets here. They don't even attempt to hide their nuttiness any longer. It's out in the open now. But after watching the latest parade o
f this insane clown posse I had an epiphany: We can now claim - without exaggeration - that this is a party overwhelmed by the presence of sadists.

Both of the audiences attending
these two debates were the icing on a very nasty-tasting cake. In addition to the exchange quoted above between NBC's Brian Williams and Governor Perry of Texas, Ron Paul's inference in the debate five nights later - that a thirty-year-old uninsured accident victim might be forced to "just die" - drew hoots and shouts of "YEAH!!!" from these animals. Isn't that sweet? Such compassion!

I should rephrase something I said earlier. Life is not always beautiful, but it sure is interesting - and never boring!
Having said that, here is an extremely non-boring statement for you to ponder:

With each passing day it is becoming more-and-more clear that Rick Perry will probably be elected the next president of the United States.

After I wrote that very short paragraph above I stared at it for almost thirty minutes. I then drove a half mile down the road to grab a cup of coffee from the nice folks at the Country Convenience s
tore. En route I pondered what I had written. Do I really believe that? I didn't quite know. Surely, I thought, the American people won't go down that road again. Sending another dim-witted and reactionary cowboy from the Texas Governor's mansion to the Executive Mansion? They can't be that stupid, can they? CAN THEY??? I've got bad news for you:

YES THEY CAN!
YES THEY CAN!
YES THEY CAN!


Rick Perry would be their perfect nominee. He has more of a taste for blood than any of the other contenders - a lot more; more than Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman combined. And while Michele Bachmann may claim an insatiable lust for the blood of evil-doers, she's never actually had the joy and privilege of executing anyone, poor thing.

This got me to thinking about scripture. Although hardly a scholar with respect to the New Testament, I do dabble on occasion. Surely these "Christians" can see the folly of their attitude toward the death penalty - not to mention its ultimate hypocrisy.

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, 'He that is wi
thout sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.'"

Jesus of Nazareth
from the Gospel of John, 8:7

Jesus was coming out against capital punishment in this passage. There's no other way of interpreting it. None. A crowd of biblical tea-partiers was about to stone a poor woman to death - and Jesus stopped them, telling her to "Go and sin no more." He didn't say to this blood-thirsty mob, "Hey listen folks, my mother Mary and I have never committed a sin in our entire lives. We'll kill this gal for you!" He was clearly sayi
ng that killing another human being was wrong - PERIOD. I would take these right-wingers a lot more seriously if they had as much love and respect for the born as they profess to have for the unborn.

There was also that bit in the Sermon on the Mount about the merciful obtaining mercy. Why is it that these people continue to hold Jesus Christ hostage when their message and agenda has not a thing to do with His message and agenda? And isn't there a passage somewhere in there that says "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord"? I'm just sayin'.

SEIG HEIL!

I'm starting to get the impression that the Republicans are a lynch mob posing as a political party. Things have gotten that strange. Their behavior is becoming more Nazi-like by the hour. It should be remembered that when Hitler and his gang took power in the late winter of 1933, there was no talk of exterminating the Jewish people. Had that been the case every Jew in Germany would have gotten the hell out of town while the getting was good - overnight! The horrible reality of the death camps was merely a gradual evolution.

I'm not implying that the American right wing is in full tilt brown-shirt mode - but it cannot be denied by anyone paying close attention that they are evolving into something perfectly hideous. Ronald Reagan is starting to look in hindsight like a moderate. Richard Nixon is starting to look like freakin' Che Guevara! No, this is not your father's Republican party. It's not even your older brother's. How much more further to the extreme right are these jackasses going to move before they hurl themselves - and the rest of the country along with them - right over the proverbial cliff?

"Let me remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me further remind you that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Barry Gol
dwater
Acceptance speech, Republican Convention, 1964

Let's use old
Barry as an example of what I'm talking about. When the Republicans nominated him to run against incumbent Lyndon Johnson in 1964, Goldwater scared the living shit out of mainstream America. In his day he was known as "Mr. Conservative". During that campaign he said he could turn North Vietnam into a "parking lot" by means of low-level nuclear weapons. Nice, huh? Although he won in the old confederacy, he lost everywhere else. It was a landslide for Johnson. And yet when he died in 1998 Goldwater was in a blind funk about the mindless extremism to which the Republican party - his party - had attached themselves. And remember. this was over a decade before the formation of the Tea party!

Were Barry Goldwater to rise from the dead tonight, he wouldn't recognize the Grand Old Party. It's also a pretty safe bet that they wouldn't nominate him to run as vice chairman of the Scottsdale Rotary Club. He'd be seen as too much of a left wing extremist. At the time of his death he was writing a book in collaboration with John Dean of Watergate fame. Dean finished the book a few years ago. It was called "Conservatives Without Conscience".

"And let me further remind you" how these knuckleheads on the far-right view that other Barry - a sleep-inducing moderate named Barack Obama. They have labeled him a "socialist". A socialist! Isn't that a hoot?

Barring a gaffe of earthquake magnitudes (like suggesting that Texas may secede from the union) Rick Perry will probably be nominated as the Republican candidate for president of the United States at their convention next summer. Given the jaw-dropping gullibility of the American people, he might very-well win the election. I really hope I'm wrong about this, but I don't think I am. If you think the Supreme Court is disgusting now (Corporations are people, too!) wait and see what it looks like after two or three appointments by President Perry. Not that I'm saying we'll have to kiss this country goodbye if he is inaugurated on January 20, 2013. We already did that - on January 20, 2001. Another right wing extremist from Texas living in the White House will only be anti-climactic. The damage is complete.

Have a lovely day, kiddies!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
tomdegan@frontiernet.net

SUGGESTED READING:

Goldwater
by Barry Goldwater (with Jack Casserly)

No doubt about it, he was an interesting guy. A very good read.

For more recent postings on this subversive, positively un-American blog, please go to the following link:

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Happy reading, campers!

61 Comments:

At 8:35 AM, Blogger Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...

Keep those comments coming, pal. They're absolute gems!

Cheers!

 
At 8:48 AM, Blogger Rain said...

Unfortunately I think there will be enough Republicans to not go for the far righties' choice of Perry. I am afraid they will nominate Romney, who will owe too much to the extreme right-- those with lots of bucks, no brains, no ability to compare facts, no real Christian theology but following Christianism-- for me to think he'll be much better in governing, but he'll be able to fool more of the middle. No matter which one is up there on the right wing side, they will do a lot of the same things once they get in.

Last night I heard a very apt comparison of who this bunch is who cheered at people dying. This far right group who accuse those who think like me of being a communist, they are the same ones who said 'yeah' to Pontius Pilate when he tried to not have to execute Jesus. They claim a religion that they absolutely would have cheered to have the founder executed and they'd do it based on what Jesus taught (socialist and communist that he was). They'd definitely want him dead if he was here today.

And Perry, he is Pontius Pilate with his no faith in government except when it's executing someone for a crime that government courts decreed the person did but who knows if they did based on the righties own belief government can't do anything right...

That's who is out there on the right voting, and it's scary to wonder how big a percentage of this country they are because what I see in them, evil person that I am, is they are sadists, bigots and only care about themselves. Empathy? They don't even know what that word means nor do they follow anything that Christ taught because that wouldn't suit their me first agenda.

 
At 9:20 AM, Blogger Gypsy Bob said...

First of all being pigeon holed as Left, Right, Center, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative or Republican restricts rational discourse because we all have parts of each in our belief system; to deny this you would be dishonest to yourself and would totally disallow for personal growth by eliminating the possibility for change because you just might be wrong...talk to the hand.

As for Perry, IMHO, he has that smug, righteous smirk and just exudes the aurora of a philosophically cemented asshole. I may be wrong but he professes to be a Christian but gives off Satanic vibes...he is a frightening individual. If Dubya was the hanging Bush Perry is the hanging tree.

As long as money is the motivator and compassion is not in the equation our society will crumble.

 
At 9:36 AM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

Gypsy Bob....Satan has successfully planted many of his disciples in Amerikan government, Perry is just one of many. When Satan saw how well Hitler did under his guidance he knew what the future laid in store here. Just took a while for enough of " Rosemary's babies " to grow up and become adults ( sic ). It amazes me how so many of these so called Christians follow the theology of the anti-Christ and not the theology of their Bible. I guess when you have shit for brains that is the inevitable result. Must be that Amerikan exceptionalism that Lawrence O'Donnell talks about ??

 
At 9:49 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Tom, even though I don’t always agree with your interpretation, I do appreciate you including scripture from time to time. What Jesus was doing here was pointing out the hypocrisy of the religious leadership. They sought to trap him in a point of the Law. He didn’t say the Law was invalid or wrong. He was, instead, showing His mercy towards us, which was of course His reason for coming to us – to save us from the just results for our sin. In fact, He said elsewhere that He didn’t come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it (and we can fulfill it vicariously through faith in Him). But, His teachings on Hell (which folks don’t like to quote nearly as often) clearly point to the fact that capital punishment is an ultimate reality for the unrepentant who reject Him.

In any event, I don’t like Perry’s answer either. While I do believe capital punishment is valid in some cases, I would say that it can never be free from the fear of misusing it. Problem is, I see it as just a bad to have wrongly imprisoned a man in a high-security prison for his whole life – maybe even worse. Slow psychological torture and loneliness vs. death – I don’t know which I’d choose.

 
At 10:39 AM, Blogger charles moore said...

Tom, it is time for this country to slow down, take a deep breath and read a good history of Nazi Germany; how it came into being and the consequences thereof and look at how closely we are following in it's footsteps. But of course that will never happen.

As for all of these self proclaimed "christians" I have to say that I have worked for the church in various denominations my entire life. 55 years as a church musician and at this point in time I have no use for the church, so called christians or anything that they stand for. Deluded, self righteous, misguided idiots.

 
At 10:48 AM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

Harley....how do you feel about the Troy Davis case in GA ??. Here is a guy obviously railroaded and convicted though testimony of persons with criminal records most on parole at the time of their testimony who have now recanted saying they lied in fear of getting their parole revoked if they didn't say what the man wanted to hear !! See the establishment has a big problem ever admitting to its mistakes. It would rather execute an innocent man to save face and protect the illusion of justice in a society so unjust it is pathetic. I adhere to the philosophy that it is " better that 100 guilty persons go free than one innocent person be wrongly convicted " let alone executed !! But hey I'm not a disciple of Satan so I guess I'm out of the loop on this one !!

 
At 11:20 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

So...I guess the days of George W. Bush's "compassionate conservatism" are over? ;-)

 
At 12:30 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Ellis –
Obviously, if a man were wrongfully convicted, I would feel it a tragedy and miscarriage of justice. Just like failing to convict a guilty man is a miscarriage of justice. How do you feel about the instances where rapists and child molesters are set free, only to claim more victims? By that logic, I could say I’d rather lock up a 100 innocent people than let 1 guilty one go free. I, of course, do not feel that way – that would be a simplistic way to deal with a very difficult issue.

I thought I made it clear that I didn’t agree with Perry’s cavalier attitude. It should be an issue we approach with fear and trembling. That doesn’t mean that I don’t believe 1st degree murder deserves capital punishment – I do. But, the theory of fair retribution and our ability to properly administer justice are two separate issues.

 
At 1:03 PM, Blogger Lou said...

This is the first time I've read your blog. Very nice. You're writing is very clever, and your points are made well. I agree with most of what you are saying.

I'd like to also comment on the reply from "Rain". Also nicely said. I agree with you - that Romney will ultimately prevail as the Republican nominee because he is the (slightly) lesser of two evils. (Or as presidential third party candidate John B. Anderson famously said during his failed bid in 1980, "the evil of two lessers". On a related thought, Anderson is also quoted as saying "The only way you can do that decrease taxes, balance the budget, and increase military spending is with mirrors, and thats what it would take." Isn't that a good description of what ended up being voodoo economics? :)

Thanks, Lou
www.the-moderates-perspective.blogspot.com

 
At 1:04 PM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

Harley I was really looking to invoke a discussion of the Davis case and in no way did I mean to insinuate that you approve of Perry's cavalier attitude. You make many good points all of which are normally covered in a first year law student's criminal law class. Are we punishing for retribution, rehabilitation or to protect society from dangerous persons ?? Your comment about failing to convict a guilty person being a miscarriage of justice raises the question....exactly what is " reasonable doubt " ??? Failing to apprehend criminals in the first place is where the problem begins. By expending so much effort to enforce laws against victimless crimes many crimes which do harm a victim are allowed to go on unimpeded. White collar crimes were almost never enforced and even now are begrudgingly enforced. I guess friends don't allow friends to go to prison. If we punish to rehabilitate I say prison sentences for most crimes are way too long. Most folks would get the idea after spending a few months incarcerated, let alone years. If we punish for revenge then maybe we need to take another look at our value system and make some adjustments in that regard. If we are looking to protect society from dangerous persons it would be in our best interest to train all citizens in self-defense as a start and let us be our brother's keeper. Back to " reasonable doubt " this is a subjective concept and I would bet that the more intelligent a person is the more likely they would find enough ambiguity in fact patterns to be unable to convict in many cases. See I don't understand criminal behavior since it goes against my belief that one should never do anything to hurt another. So maybe this issue should be left for the cynical to discuss ??

 
At 1:55 PM, Blogger Catharine said...

Jesus... FEH! what the hell did HE know about capital punishment anyway?

Oh.

Wait.

Never mind.

~a~

 
At 2:00 PM, Blogger Catharine said...

Here's the part that scares me about this particular field. I believe -- and it sickens me to say this -- but I truly believe that the vast majority of Americans are as crazy, sick and sadistic as these folks are. They're angry and looking for someone to blame. The black man in the White House, the Latinos taking their jobs and ruining their economy, those raghead terrorists, the indigent poor, the uninsured, the hungry children, old folks who won't just quit it and die already, etc., etc.

One of those yokels on that stage might actually be our President in 2012. And if so, it will most likely be Rick Perry. Because there are plenty of stupid, mean-ass, ugly Americans ready to vote for someone just like they are.

Fallen empire... we're a fallen, dead, damned empire... a walking anachronism... we just don't know it yet.

~A~

 
At 2:04 PM, Blogger Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...

Great comment, Catharine!

No, most of us do not yet realize that we are a past tense nation. We'll find out soon enough though.

 
At 4:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The point your missing in my hunble opinion about the right embracing the church and the cover that is giving is that it has always been the greatest money making corporation in the written history of mankind. And we all know there isn't a mile a republican wont walk for a dollar and the best thing of all it is already privatised.

 
At 5:13 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

If He showed up in today's Amerika, Jesus would be called an anti-corporatist, pro-tax, liberal communist, if not a terrorist. That peace and love crap is un-American. We would need to make Him an example and toss Him in Gitmo.

 
At 5:19 PM, Blogger Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...

Dick Gregory once said that if Jesus came back today they would "tie Him to a peace sign and roll him off of a cliff."

Lenny Bruce once said that it's a good thing He didn't come back today - otherwise "we'd we'd have to contend with generations of parochial school kids going around with little electric chairs tied to their necks."

 
At 5:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,

Rick Perry will indeed be the Repub nominee next year because Faux news has annointed him as the ONE. The others may as well take their campaign donations and go home. Rupert Murdoch and the Koch Brothers need a new puppet and Ricky boy is the ONE. Watch how their pundits fawn over him and you realize that he has been chosen and it doesn't really matter what the GOP wants. If Gidget Von Braun jumps into the race at this point, she will do it just to augment her family income and wardrobe. I'm sure Roger Ailes has her pegged to be Perry's running mate. It was all McCain's fault she lost the Vice Presidency last time.

It's all over. Go home already.

 
At 6:21 PM, Blogger skip 2 colorado said...

This is the first time I've stopped by your blog, and I must say, I enjoy your style very much- you are so clever, and do wonders with words. This bleeding heart lib does disagree, however, with the prospect that one of the clowns on the repo stage will actually be the next POTUS. Unless, of course, all of us out there who are NOT wearing clown shoes remain silent.
The media insists on delivering BS poll numbers that give these right wing thugs more cred than they deserve, while neglecting to mention that even while his poll numbers were slipping, President Obama would still beat Romney by 6 points, and Perry by 8. Wait until every American who has been laid off by a Bain Capital Company speaks up; Romney won't look so shiny. When all the dirt from Perry's past rises to the surface, he'll need more than Koch money to rinse him clean. If there is any justice in the world, Ms. Bachmann will be back to lunching with local groups of 25 supporters in the Elks Club basement before we know it. Personally, I think that rather than speculating about what Jesus would do, it would serve anyone who gives a damn about our future to get up, speak up, and most importantly...Don't give up! Challenge the garbage the tea party spews as 'fact'. Stand up to those who have been steamrolling over the thinking portion of the population- and start giving the media hell for perpetrating the fiction. Phone calls. Letters. Emails. Time for those of us who have been watching from the sidelines as these nasty bits of trash keep pushing their agenda to start pushing back. The repos are painting themselves in a corner of stupid, and we need to speak up, point out the lies, stop letting them get by with what they are trying to pull, and hold them accountable for their words and deeds. That's my story & I'm stickin' to it...

 
At 6:27 PM, Blogger Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...

Thank you for that. Here is a link to skip2colorado's blog, folks:

http://www.skip2colorado.blogspot.com/

Good stuff!

 
At 6:34 PM, Anonymous boltok said...

234 is chump change compared to the number, mostly blacks, that Planned Parenthood takes out in Texas. People in glass houses...

All of you need to start learning, once again, to love your pain. The next election cycle is going to be worse than the last. You should find a Republican to embrace. Drudge article said Barry Manilow is going with Ron Paul.

The situation is so horrific for Dems that the Senate will not even introduce the Teleprompter's job bill and all of the Jews are switching party.

My presidential model indicates Romney/Rubio as most likely winners of the election, followed by Perry/Rubio. Don't know if that makes you feel better.

The dems only HOPE, and a feeble one given the nature of internal party conflict, is to resurrect Hillary and the Clinton machine.

 
At 7:01 PM, Blogger sharon said...

George W. was no cowboy--he only played one on television. He is and always has been a member of the 2%. He has already been disavowed by today's GOP as having been too liberal.

 
At 8:43 PM, Blogger Nance said...

"...this is a party overwhelmed by the presence of sadists."

Perry is the worst of them in this regard and, yes, this is really awful. He shames me as an American. Whatever our differences as Democrats, we can at least be crystal clear on what and whom we oppose. If Rick Perry serves to snap liberals out of the grumpy squabbles and focuses us on preventing W-Squared from taking office, then he will have justified his otherwise unjustifiable existence.

 
At 8:51 PM, Blogger Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...

OUT OF THE BALL PARK, NANCE!

Thank you!

All the best,

Tom

 
At 8:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Solyndra, the solar panel company whose highly publicized failure and consequent investigation by federal authorities has flashed across headlines recently, isn’t the only business to go belly up after benefiting from a piece of the $800 billion economic stimulus package passed in 2009.

At least four other companies have received stimulus funding only to later file for bankruptcy, and two of those were working on alternative energy.

Evergreen Solar Inc., indirectly received $5.3 million through a state grant to open a $450 million facility in 2007 that employed roughly 800 people. The company, once a rock star in the solar industry, filed for bankruptcy protection last month, saying it couldn’t compete with Chinese rivals without reorganizing. The company intends to focus on building up its manufacturing facility in China.

SpectraWatt, based in Hopewell Junction, N.Y., is also a solar cell company that was spun out of Intel in 2008. In June 2009, SpectraWatt received a $500,000 grant from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory as part of the stimulus package. SpectraWatt was one of 13 companies to receive the money to help develop ways to improve solar cells without changing current manufacturing processes.

The company filed for bankruptcy last month, saying it could not compete with its Chinese competitors, which receive “considerable government and financial support.”

On Tuesday, Deputy Secretary of Energy Daniel Poneman wrote an editorial for “USA Today” in which he blamed China in part for the failure of U.S. solar energy manufacturers to compete.

 
At 9:57 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Who you believe Jesus is/was and your grasp of the Bible will inform what you believe about His stance on capital punishment. Those who understand the truth will understand that we ALL have been sentenced to capital punishment. That's the irony of this discussion.

And, for those who don't believe He is who He claimed He was, why on earth do you care what He thinks?

 
At 10:03 PM, Blogger MichaelStivic said...

Jefferson's Guardian said:

"Our country is no longer controlled by, and for, We the People, but instead by, and on behalf of, international banking and multinational corporate interests. While the gradual, almost imperceptible takeover of our government by this corporate fascism has been evolving by design for many decades, it is a coup d'etat nonetheless and has been disastrous for the vast majority of Americans."



Where is your outrage Tom Degan and Jefferson's Guardian at how a major Obama campaign contributor got his payback with a $535 million federal loan guarantee for his company Solyndra? The company had a poor business plan and went bankrupt but Obama rammed through the loan. Where is the outrage over this corporate fascism? When will you post a story about it Tom Degan. WE WANT JUST THE FACTS!

People join me in a grass roots movement to get Hillary to primary the phoney baloney we have in the White House!

 
At 10:36 PM, Blogger John Myste said...

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, 'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.'"

She's damn lucky I wasn't there.

 
At 11:26 PM, Anonymous Just the Facts! said...

MichaelStivic,

I think in your desire for an honest dialog you have forgotten you are dealing with liberals and or progressives.

People who whole heartily ascribe to the belief that ends justify the means will have no problem or outrage over Solyndra. It is the "good intentions" that count not the out come. Left wing liberals and or progressive understand fully what "one step backward, two steps forward" means. That is why they bash Obama for not being a liberal, but they realize by supporting him, they are moving one step forward towards turning us into a socialistic nation.

Less than 30% of Americans, when polled, call them selves liberal. You have to understand that to treat the Solyndra and other green energy failures seriously, is missing the point. The point is to have a debt that produced nothing but requires tax increase to pay off.
At the same time, if the left was serious about creating jobs, they would at least discuss some of the following things.

Allow drilling for energy in the United States now.

Allow the Mid-Currituck Sound Bridge to be built now. It is shovel ready, the money is in hand the plan calls for a 3 mile bridge but the EPA is holding the construction up for a 17 mile bridge.
IE, get OUR federal govt and their regulations out of the way.

Enforce current emigration laws on the books now and return the 14 million who live here.

What I have found on this blog and Dave D's is a desire to not discuss solutions to problems, but to bash anyone who is not a liberal. Because any solution that does not include tax increases, more govt spending, more govt regulation, is counter productive to the ends, which is socialism.

It will be interesting to see who first claims in a post that we are one in the same, as if that mattered.

 
At 5:50 AM, Blogger MikeB said...

About that quotation from John 8:

Jesus never said it. The whole episode is a forgery.

(Excuse me: it's a "later interpolation.")

http://www.religioustolerance.org/john_8.htm

 
At 6:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom,

I hate to inform you of this but their Christianity only goes so far as the angry God of the Old Testament. These are not Christians that follow the teaching of the loving Prophet Jesus or the New Testament in any way, shape or form.

Even Pat Robinson is saying once wifie gets sick with with the big 'A' disease, it is then OK to divorce and abandon her.

So much for 'in sickness and in health'.

Throw the first stone indeed!

 
At 9:33 AM, Blogger Yellowstone said...

There is so much machinery behind this Texas Governor that reminds me of the antics of recently past administration.

Somebody go get the booster cables - we need to recharge 'Darth's' pacemaker. It's time to get him back in service.

Goodbye cruel world . . .

 
At 10:24 AM, Blogger Brick1101 said...

What I can't understand is how these right wingers who tried to move heaven and earth to keep the brain dead body of Terri Shiavo functioning at ANY cost to the state, now want people who can't afford health care to just go away and die to save money.
How this country can be respected by the world after these "debates" is beyond me. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to call myself an American after their performance.
You have won me over Tom, I no longer fret over the future, I just sit back and laugh at the absurdity of it all.

 
At 10:29 AM, Blogger Tom Degan's Daily Rant said...

That's the only way to handle it, Brick. We laugh at the absurdity. Otherwise we will weep at the tragedy.

Tom

 
At 11:18 AM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

So JTF.....what you are saying is that less than 30% of Amerikans value liberty !! Very sad, but not at all surprising !! BTW....most of the Amerikans who consider themselves conservative don't even understand what that means, also not at all surprising !! I wonder what percentage of Amerikans consider themselves to be well educated ??

 
At 12:54 PM, Anonymous Charles said...

In a Ponzi scheme, the people who invest early get their money out with dividends. But these dividends don’t come from any profitable or productive activity — they consist entirely of money paid in by later participants.

This cannot go on forever because at some point there just aren’t enough new investors to support the earlier entrants. Word gets around that there are no profits, just money transferred from new to old. The merry-go-round stops, the scheme collapses and the remaining investors lose everything.

Now, Social Security is a pay-as-you-go program. A current beneficiary isn’t receiving the money she paid in years ago. That money is gone. It went to her parents’ Social Security check. The money in her check is coming from her son’s FICA tax today — i.e., her “investment” was paid out years ago to earlier entrants in the system and her current benefits are coming from the “investment” of the new entrants into the system. Pay-as-you-go is the definition of a Ponzi scheme.

The crucial distinction between a Ponzi scheme and Social Security is that Social Security is mandatory.

That’s why Ponzi schemes always collapse and Social Security has not. When it’s mandatory, you’ve ensured an endless supply of new participants.

 
At 1:04 PM, Anonymous George Jefferson's Guardian said...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63669.html

In a case of serious buyer’s remorse, one-third of Americans say the United States would be better off if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were president, according to a new poll Friday.

Clinton is the most popular national political figure in the country today, with 64 percent of Americans polled holding a favorable view of her, the Bloomberg poll shows.

And 34 percent say they think the U.S. would be in better shape if she had won the election over President Barack Obama.

In 2010, Bloomberg found just 25 percent saying they wished Clinton had become president.



I just want people to know that Dave Dubya and I are feverishly working to get Hillary to primary Barry!

Hillary for President in 2012!

 
At 3:35 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

To all...

The comment attributed to me ("George Jefferson's Guardian") at 1:04 p.m., was not made by me. It is just another attack by our schizophrenic, pain-in-the-ass, troll who goes by, among others, Just the Facts!, Anonymous, and most recently, MichaelStivic. It's easy to tell when a troll is assuming your identity by the lack of color in the "Blogger" icon. as Dave Dubya has pointed out on his own blog, this is "a common dirty trick by Rightists."

I take this attack as a compliment, and not a threat. It tells me I'm getting too close to the truth, and this obviously very much threatens them.

Have a great weekend! May your weekend be safe, invigorating, and troll-free. ;-)

 
At 4:22 PM, Blogger Mack Lyons said...

Roman spectators at the Colosseum. Gotta fulfill America's bloodlust somehow.

 
At 4:23 PM, Blogger Mack Lyons said...

And don't forget the nice little picnics those fine, upstanding citizens had underneath all that "strange fruit."

 
At 4:25 PM, Blogger Ellis D., Esq. said...

All these conservatives are impostors JG.....they impostor human beings !!

 
At 5:23 PM, Anonymous boltok said...

attackwatch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZPwDRZ6pTM&fe...

 
At 7:09 PM, Anonymous Just the Facts! said...

"So JTF.....what you are saying is that less than 30% of Amerikans value liberty"
Nope that's not what I'm saying Ellis, but I'll give you an A+ for the spin of the day!

 
At 7:20 PM, Anonymous Just the Facts! said...

JG,

What post are you claiming is the result of someone hacking into your blog?
The one by George Jefferson's Guardian?
I just went there and everything looks the same as your blog. So how do we know which one is really
you? Or if there really is a you?

Didn't you say that conservatives are stupid? If so how did someone so dumb figure out how to hack? Or are you being hacked into because your not smart enough to prevent it?

Maybe it's because you starting to "troll" yourself? Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Then you can plea with Tom to do what dumb Dave D did to prevent being asked questions that he didn't like the answers to.

 
At 7:42 PM, Anonymous Harry from Mass said...

boltek,

that youtube video was funny.

here is another:

Johnny Cashless Sings about Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_A7y-fC4qk


"yes we're in obama's prison, where socialism rules"

"and the government is run by, a bunch of liberal fools"

 
At 7:59 PM, Anonymous Just the Facts! said...

Couple of threads ago, Tom was crying in his wine, that today's Conservatives don't have a sense of humor.
I think he may have spoke too soon.

attackwatchwatch.com

 
At 8:02 PM, Anonymous Harry from Mass said...

It won't be long till Hillary stabs obama in the back and challenges the skinny big eared bullshitter from chitown to a primary!

Jefferson's Guardian sounds like you need to get some better internet security software.

 
At 9:39 PM, Anonymous Harry from Mass said...

Tommy Tommy Tommy

Tom Degan ranted:

"Ron Paul's inference in the debate five nights later - that a thirty-year-old uninsured accident victim might be forced to "just die" - drew hoots and shouts of "YEAH!!!" from these animals. Isn't that sweet? Such compassion!"

There were 3 or 4 YEAHS at 1:05 in the following section of "Ron Paul's inference in the debate":

http://www.youtube.com/v/b4Am2bWQRNw?version=3&hl=en_US

The CROWD was NOT hooting and shouting YEAHS. Tom, remember what Lionel Jefferson used to say, "Don't condemn a whole group of people, for the actions of a few."

Shame on you Tom Degan for your distortion. You need to go to confession.

As Barry's polls go down, the desperation from the left goes up.

 
At 10:51 PM, Anonymous AstuteObserver said...

Free to Die NYTimes
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: September 15, 2011

Today, “free to choose” has become “free to die.”

I’m referring, as you might guess, to what happened during Monday’s G.O.P. presidential debate. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked Representative Ron Paul what we should do if a 30-year-old man who chose not to purchase health insurance suddenly found himself in need of six months of intensive care. Mr. Paul replied, “That’s what freedom is all about — taking your own risks.” Mr. Blitzer pressed him again, asking whether “society should just let him die.”

And the crowd erupted with cheers and shouts of “Yeah!”



Harry, this is where Tom copied the master of distortion Paul Krugman. Krugman is becoming a media joke.

 
At 1:18 PM, Anonymous HopeyChanger said...

I love you Obama no matter what your polls are!

 
At 2:07 PM, Anonymous Earl Degan (Tom's Uncle) said...

Democratic strategists predicted their party’s 2008 landslide win would usher in a generation of political dominance. Obamanomics, essentially, would divert taxpayer dollars to the Green Lobby – and then into the campaign coffers of the Democratic Party. This is what CRONY CAPITALISM is really all about: politicians enriching favored businesses, who then return the favor. Or maybe it’s the other way around, Who cares, really. It’s an endless, profitable loop for both.

 
At 11:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jefferson's Guardian sounds like you need to get some better internet security software.


If he can score some free, he will, if he has to pay for it, not in this lifetime.
It's the liberal way.

 
At 9:34 AM, Anonymous Lionel Jefferson said...

"Don't condemn a whole group of people, for the actions of a few."

 
At 9:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."

good point Lionel. when a claim is made of a group of people, instead of the truth which is a few, that is bearing false witness.

shame on Tom Degan and Paul Krugman!

 
At 12:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greece And The Crisis Of The Governing Elite 9/19/2011


The elite governing class’s proposals are desperate measures designed to cover up the fundamental failure of the underlying political economic model, which assumes that those who govern can provide free goods and services to the population at large, lavish pensions for government employees, impose rigidities onto labor markets and otherwise achieve social goals through their management of the economy. What we are now seeing is that good intentions are and never were sufficient. That so-called “rights” to jobs, health care, housing and pensions require real resources that cannot be conjured out of nothing by a good speech or a government decree, but must be taken from those who produce in the private sector.

Yet, the taxes and other exactions used to take those resources have reduced economic activity and income so much that the private sector can no longer fund current government outlays. Now that investors are less willing to lend money, a rapid, jarring adjustment in which expenditures are brought down into alignment with receipts seems unavoidable.



The above can all be boiled down to what Maggie said years ago "Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples money."

 
At 1:32 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

- Alexis de Tocqueville

To be fair, we should add corporations to the mix and not just the public.

Dems and Repubs are both guilty - they just have different masters.

 
At 5:30 PM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Harley, you said...

"Dems and Repubs are both guilty - they just have different masters."

Harley, I agree both are guilty, however each pay homage to the same corporate masters.

 
At 6:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JG,
You are really becoming a large bore with your anti-capitalist rant about corporate masters.

Why don't you spell out what or who you think would be the answer and work to get them into power. Your record shows that you bash the GOP 90% more than you do the DNC. So the crap you just posted about both parties is a pile. Come NOV 2012 you are gonna vote for Obama, so stop trying to act like you are so above it all.

 
At 7:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Anonymous 6:23PM

JG, all we hear are silence and crickets from you after Earl Degan made the good point above about Obama's CRONY CAPITALISM.

JG, we all know you are going to vote for the megalomaniac, who still gives you tingles up your leg, who said:

"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."

JG, do us all a favor and go back to LinkTV and watch the marxist programming there!

 
At 8:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JG,

I've noticed one common theme among parlor limosine liberals in congress who come from old money.

They all think the federal income tax should be higher, since they don't have income from whoring but rather money from trusts which is heavily sheltered from taxation.

So to them some businessperson who contributes to the social welfare and who works 80 hours a week is undertaxed, while aristocratic coupon-clippers like themselves and unemployed deadbeats shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all.

 
At 1:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Christians, my friend, are a hard and unforgiving lot. They are also a bunch that responds well to autocratic, mindless, dictatorial leadership. It's so easy for leaders of the megachurches to deliver the evangelical vote (the LARGEST voting bloc in the country) because their flock is pleading to suck at the comforting teat of structure.

 

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