Friday, October 08, 2021

Dense Pence - No Sense

"I know the media wants to distract from the Biden administration's failed agenda by focusing on one day in January." 

Mike Pence

Do you remember Dan Quayle? Do you remember what a complete and utter laughingstock he was as George H.W. Bush's V.P.? It was always oodles of fun to watch him trying to communicate extemporaneously to the huddled masses. The poor slob never could get the hang of it. He always wound up falling flat on his face - like when he infamously corrected the spelling of a third-grader who had correctly spelled the word,  "potato". In hindsight, these things really shouldn't be held against him. I would be lost without Spell-Check. And although I write fairly well, I have never been particularly good at improvisational speaking. I'm as capable of emanating an  embarrassing gaffe as anyone. It's a blessing that my career in politics was brief - mercifully so.

Dan Quayle was never perceived by anyone as being particularly bright. I am not here to pass judgement on the man's intellectual abilities. The fact of the matter is, he must have had an above average intelligence to get to where he got. I just don't know the answer to that question. Here is what I know as a non-debatable fact: compared to Mike Pence, Quayle is starting to look like Albert Einstein. Seriously.

Back on January 6, I was sending kudos to Pence for doing the right thing by acknowledging the ballots in the electoral college that gave Joe Biden a decided victory over Donald Trump. We now know that Pence was encouraged by certain White House lawyers to overturn the results of a democratic election and that he - at first - had every intention of doing their (and Trump's) naughty bidding. The only thing that stopped him from committing an electoral atrocity was the fact that he was bombarded with private messages that it would be foolish and blatantly unconstitutional to go down that road. One of those messages was from former vice-president J. Danforth Quayle! (Yeah, that's really his name, folks).

Now, in order to get back into good favor with Trump and the MAGA-fools, Pence is tailoring his message to make us believe that what happened in Washington D.C. on January 6 of this year was nothing to get upset about and that congress is wasting  their time and our money by thoroughly investigating the events of that nasty day. Mike Pence is a thoroughly despicable political hack. He knows that if he can only receive the Republican nomination in three years, he will be able to seize the office of the presidency whether he gets the required votes or not. I'm tempted to say, "but that ain't ever gonna happen, folks". I said the same thing five years ago during the months and weeks leading up to Election Day 2016. Anything is possible in Idiot Nation. Anything.

FUN FACT: While the insurrection of January 6, 2021 was happening, and thousands of people outside the capital building were calling for Mike Pence to be hanged, Pence was inside that same building with his wife and family. Nice, huh?

We should do everything possible to ensure that no GOP politician wins the White House in 2024. If that disgusting, cult-of-a-party is ever able to take back the executive branch of our government or either house of congress, this country is through. Do you think that I am exaggerating? Keep voting Republican and let's see what happens.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY


by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

Costa is the new Bernstein.


At 12:11 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Only an authoritarian toady would complain about an investigation of his boss's violent mob that shouted, "Hang Mike Pence".

They are a cult.

At 12:17 PM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Agreed, Dave. They long ago ceased to be a political party.

At 4:29 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

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At 4:29 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

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At 6:40 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I can see actual conservative views. But this GOP and the Trump cult just completely lose me.

On my way to work there is a house that has a "Fuck Biden" flag right out front where school buses from an elementary school can see it every day.

I Mentioned it on a local message board and was attacked because my opposition to the word "fuck" in public "violated the man's personal freedom".

I thought the GOP was the "moral" party.

I support the guy's right to support whoever he wants (no matter how misguided he is), but is that word necessary in public?

At 6:50 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

At 3:36 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

Leaders of Cults: Hiltler = Stalin = Mussolini = Putin = Pol Pot = Mao = Kim Jong-un, ad nauseam.

T**** was nothing but a wannabe "tough" leader and, fortunately, too stupid to pull off the insurrection. However, the baggage he left behind is a rotten, stinking, putrid mob of 72 million nutters willing to kill themselves and others to make "principled" stands based on the 35,000 or so lies they still embrace and echoed - reinforced everyday by propaganda "news" machines; domestic and foreign.

Which leads us to the Covid Wars and the human cost paid because a deadly virus was politicized by a mentally unbalanced faux tyrant and his followers.

At 3:57 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I don;t think that that many are "die hard" trumpies.

The vast majority would vote for a tomato if it had an "R" after the name. Let another republican challenge and most cons would follow that person. The problem is finding a Republican with some backbone.

At 5:26 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Several top members of the Biden administration were in Mexico City on Friday for a meeting with Mexican officials regarding security along the U.S.-Mexico border. But Vice President Kamala Harris wasn't among them.

Harris, whom President Biden appointed in March to manage the U.S. response to the migrant crisis along the border, went to New Jersey instead.

Harris, meanwhile, traveled to the Garden State, visiting a daycare center at Montclair State University in Little Falls and a vaccination site at Essex County Community College in Newark to promote the Biden administration’s agenda.

The vice president last visited the border in June, spending several hours in El Paso, Texas, while on her way to her home in California. It’s the only time she’s been to the border since taking office.

To be fair, it is not clear which border JoeB put her in charge of. It might have been the New Jersey/New York border or more likely New Jersey/Delaware. JoeB needs to keep the riffraff out of his neighborhood.

It should be clear by now that the border is going just as planned by the demonrats and they have no intention of "fixing" it. They intentionally created this mess and are loving every minute of it hoping to achieve Obamas destruction of America as we knew it.

At 5:38 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

The Michigan State Senate on Wednesday passed a bill that would strengthen voting laws in the state, requiring an individual to present a photo ID in order to vote.

In addition to the ID requirement, the legislation would prevent the secretary of state from mailing absentee ballots, unless specifically requested by the voter.

“State senators passed legislation today that will make it easier to vote and harder to cheat,” said Tori Sachs, executive director of the Michigan Freedom Fund. “In Michigan, we’re required to show our ID for everyday tasks like picking up a prescription, cashing a check, and driving a car. Eighty percent (80%) of voters support requiring an ID to vote to make sure our elections are just as secure.

Dave will opposed this cause he knows minorities in Michigan have ID's, like when needed to p/u RX, cashing check, or driving a car. But it will make cheating by EITHER party more difficult and he can't stand that. He supports cheating. To require everyone one, not just minorities, to have a photo ID is some how racism.

Claims of Racism to follow from Dave, it's all he's got.

At 5:44 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

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At 5:46 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...


You're too kind, but I acknowledge your point. I think it still remains to be seen in the 2022 and 2024 elections if T****'s influence really has waxed or waned.

Maybe I would be less inclined to paint the "R's" with such a broad critical brush if it weren't for my extended family that still can't see the cost of 4+ years of T**** or quit spouting cultic nonsense when I try to have a civil conversation with them about anything else other than politics.

It's always the "Elephant" in the room and gets dragged in because they just have to own the "libtards". I don't call them names, but, damn, they sure never let off the gas or the ad homonyms.

How about Michael Steel? He seems to want to rebuild the party. I don't know how he solve the identity crisis though.

At 6:07 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, all "voter ID" will do is disenfranchise poor voters (who usually vote Liberal)

There is absolutely no valid reason for new ID's. How many individuals have they caught "cheating"? Here in Iowa we caught a woman in 2016 trying to vote twice for trump, but we did it without any new ID's.

ANd what is your obsession with the southern border? Racist much? Aren't you currently worried about how other people have sex?

BTW, there was no "mess" until trump created one.

At 6:11 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Michigan doesn't need more voter restrictions. The election was cleaner than ever, as with the rest of the nation.

By law, every Michigan voter must present picture identification at the polls, or sign an affidavit attesting that he or she is not in possession of picture identification.

Voter impersonation is extremely rare.

Vern is a racist idiot and liar.

At 10:04 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Photo ID's are voter restrictions, in what way?

"new ID'? Like a drivers license? If the State gives it's citizens a voter ID free, whats wrong with that?

"all "voter ID" will do is disenfranchise poor voters" Explain how that happens. Do poor voters never have to provide a photo ID for anything they might do? Do the poor not have a drivers license? Do they poor never have to prove their identity? We know the answer to those questions cause the poor do drive cars, the poor do have to cash checks, the poor DO HAVE photo ID's already.

The majority of poor and minority voters FAVOR photo ID's.GOOGLE IT
Why doesn't Dave favor the majority in this case, he thinks the majority should rule when it comes to winning elections and votes in the Senate and wants to eliminate the EC? Why doesn't he support the MAJORITY of Americans on this issue?

Like Jerry said, Dave's a lying perfect rectum?

At 10:06 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

I'm shocked Tom isn't praising V.P. (Knee Pads) Harris for President to run against Pence? Why is that?

At 10:09 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Are you BETTER OFF than you were TEN MONTHS ago? Is ANYONE? If so explain how.

At 6:09 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I'm shocked that Sybil has the brains to type the way his mind works.

Yes, We are ALL better off because

A: VLad Putin's puppet is no longer squatting in the White House

B: There is an ADULT in charge who doesn't spend all his time, tweeting, golfing, and blowing his own horn

C: The Pandemic is being taken seriously

D: We once again have the respect of our allies.

As for voter ID's, can you tell us WHY they are necessary when there was no evidence of individual voter fraud (beyond a couple people CAUGHT trying to vote for trump twice)?

They are restrictive because so far not one GOP politician has offered to provide them to EVERYONE for FREE. Even Trump's handpicked lackies on the Supreme Court agreed that charging even one dollar for a voter ID constitutes a "poll tax" which is prohibited under the 24th amendment.

Can you tell us WHY conservatives always want to make it HARDER for people to vote? You shut down polling places in Dem districts, refuse to make voting day a holiday, shorten the time polling places are open, prohibit people from even bringing WATER to people FORCED to stand in lines for hours, restrict mail in ballots...

Sounds like you only want the RICH to vote.

As for VP Pamela Harris, grow up. You want to see "knee pads" look at Pence. He's still "sucking up" to Trump even after Trump supported having him killed for not breaking the law.

WHat exactly are Pence and Harris running FOR at the moment? We all know what Pence is running FROM.

At 6:10 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

BTW SYbil, you asked about "bad questions"? LOL

"I'm shocked Tom isn't praising V.P. (Knee Pads) Harris for President to run against Pence? Why is that?"

At 6:11 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

BTW SYbil, you asked about "bad questions"? LOL

"I'm shocked Tom isn't praising V.P. (Knee Pads) Harris for President to run against Pence? Why is that?"

Oh, and YOU Provide the source for your claim that "poor and minority voters favor voter ID", I'm betting that you made it up like you do everything else.

At 6:23 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Here's a poll that says the majority say "ID" should be shown, not NEW SPECIAL voter ID. Requiring NEW ID's (as opposed to those people already have) opens the door for REFUSAL on several levels. That's what the GOP wants. More people DISENFRANCHISED. ​

It also shows that the vast majority say voting should be made easier, not harder.

Go figure Sybil didn't post any sources, he needed to misrepresent the data.


At 8:52 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Meanwhile, polls show broad public support for voter ID laws, including among Democrats."

• A Monmouth University poll from June 2021 found that 80% of respondents supported "requiring voters to show a photo ID in order to vote."

• A Pew Research Center poll from April 2021 found that 76% of respondents favored "requiring all voters to show government-issued photo identification to vote."

• An AP-NORC poll from March 2021 found that 72% favored "requiring all voters to provide photo identification in order to vote."

Imagine this, Mofart thinks a FREE voter ID will make it harder for people to vote.

At 9:00 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

* Just 32% of independents approved of how Biden is handling his job while 60% disapprove in a new Quinnipiac University national poll.
* An Associated Press/NORC national poll at the end of September showed Biden at just 38% approval among independents — down a whopping 24 percentage points since just July.
* Just 39% of independents approved of the job Biden is doing as president in a NPR/PBS/Marist College poll released last month.

At 9:04 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Civiqs, which is a very liberal polling outlet, is out with a new poll on Biden’s approval/disapproval, and it has to terrify Democrats and Biden, on top of those numbers for independents.
Out of the 50 states in America Biden has a net approval rating in 10 of them.
national. No wonder Biden is suddenly desperate to talk about how popular he is, hiding out in Delaware again this weekend, and folks like McAuliffe are trying to distance themselves from him.
Joe Biden: Job Approval
Registered Voters
January 20, 2021 — October 8, 2021:111,525 Responses

No wonder Tom wants to talk about Pence.

At 9:56 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...


Not some new ID exclusive to voting, which would allow for "rejection" by sate officials who oppose Blacks and other "libs".

And so far only You are saying the new UNNECESSARY ID will be "free", and you haven't told us what will be REQUIRED to get one, and what would allow a "rejection".

BTW I was required to show ID (and proof of residency like a light bill) when I REGISTERED. WHen I vote, I sign my name and only ONE vote is allowed with that signature.

I had to SIGN the mail in ballot I REQUESTED after I received APPLICATIONS from several places. Only ONE ACTUAL BALLOT was allowed no matter how many applications I sent (I only sent in one)

32% of "independents" disapprove, but you don't say WHY people are upset. It's because HE'S NOT DOING MORE PROGRESSIVE ACTIONS which you would attack if he were. They want student loan debt reduced or forgiven, they want healthcare costs and childcare costs covered. They want paid family leave. THEY WANT THE FILIBUSTER ELIMINATED SO WE CAN GET SOME STUFF DONE WITHOUT MCCONNELL BLOCKING EVERYTHING.

Now show Democrats. He's doing fine. 80% of Democrats think Biden is doing just fine. No wonder you don;t want ALL the FACTS reported.

So keep misrepresenting the facts. You should change this version of your name to "Just the facts that serve my agenda". And if Biden is "hiding out" in delaware, what did you say when Trump was golfing all the time. BTW, President Biden is NOT charging the taxpayers "rent" on his own properties when he goes there like trump did. He's not using the office as a personal ATM. And just because he's not on TV or twitter bragging about how great he is, or holding "rallies" to boost his ego, doesn't mean he's not WORKING.

No wonder you only post those "facts" that SEEM to back up your batshit claims.

And where were you when Trump was down to 29% with "Independants"?

No wonder you want to WHINE about President Biden. LOL

Civiqs poll trump approval. Wow...39% average...

Trump never once saw 50% approval across the board. NEVER.

At 2:43 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Facts don't get in the way of the lefts' continued effort to destroy America. You can give them link after link, quote after quote, poll after poll, fact after fact, proof and proof and they still will refuse to face the fact that the majority (including minorities) favor photo Voter ID. The left IS the minority. And because of Biden it's gonna get worse.
They are like Biden who can best be summed up with this "bad question"...
"What does Biden not know, and when did he not know it?" What does Mofart not know and when did he not know it?

Truth to a liberal is B.S. if it goes against their narrative.

Example: Biden Admin Cancels Numerous Border Wall Contracts As Illegal Immigration Surge Continues… what is his replacement plan to stop the surge? A "bad question"?

Biden Won’t Say If He’s Concerned About Potential Corruption With Hunter’s Art Sales… wonder why?

Are you BETTER OFF than you were TEN MONTHS ago?
energy prices UP
inflation UP,
food pries UP,
housing costs UP,
Biden DOWN in the polls

Meanwhile Biden Won’t Say If He’s Concerned About Potential Corruption With Hunter’s Art Sales… wonder why?

Why doesn’t Biden require vaccination to get
a welfare check? Or food stamps? Or to cross our border?
Why is it only required for those who
work and contribute to society?

Next we will see the playing of the Race and Trump cards in response cause the left can't brag about Biden and V.P.Harris. Tell us lefties, what do you think is the best accomplishment of V.P. Harris? Why are you not bragging on how happy you are that she is in the wings ready (?) to step in when Biden can no longer serve?

At 2:44 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Mofart, Trump is not President, under water in the polls Biden is. Sucks doesn't it.

At 3:14 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

GQP vote may not matter in the long run as.......

Republican Governors are killing their voters and DeSantis is leading the charge to filling mass graves:

Florida Announced A 36% Increase In COVID Deaths In The Past Week.

Sucks doesn't it.

At 3:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JM source for 36% increase statement.

“Let’s Go Brandon”

At 3:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right up there with FORMER Gov. Cuomo?

72 New Coronavirus Deaths In Florida; Tests Show Improvement
[Search domain] › en-us › news › us › 72-new-coronavirus-deaths-in-florida-tests-show-improvement › ar-BB13DG2Y
Twenty of Florida's 67 counties reported a total of 72 new deaths. even as testing showed IMPROVEMENT, according to Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Florida coronavirus cases and deaths


At 4:06 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

AH! Sybil changes the subject again! LOL. That's his MO. When he finds himself being thoroughly schooled (which is pretty much always) he DEFLECTS.

And it's interesting that he uses Florida, where the Governor is doing everything in his power to PREVENT people from halting the spread of the Virus, and even MORE interesting that he uses the CURRENT (Post vaccine) numbers from Florida and New York (Pre Vaccine) before we even had a NATIONAL plan in place. And Why no national plan?

Because when Cuomo was struggling to find beds for all the victims, The "President" was still saying the virus was a "Democrat hoax" and that "The five cases we have will be down to zero soon", and it would "go away when it gets warm".

He had yet to suggest we inject disinfectant but that was on the way.

Yeah, "only" 72 deaths. Good thing none of them were in DeSantis' family huh?

How about how the "hot spots" in Corona deaths are red states?

How about how over 95% of all hospitalizations and deaths are NON VACCINATED?

And to date Sybil will not confirm that he has been vaccinated. He Probably drank horse dewormer. LOL

At 4:12 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Facts don;t get in the way of Sybil's attempt to change the narrative. People support showing ID< but NOT NEW ID'S SPECIFIC TO VOTING.

he also has not shown what it would take to get such an ID, or WHY ONE IS NECESSARY IN THE FIRST PLACE,given that there is no credible evidence that any individual voter fraud has taken place in the last 150 years that could possibly change the results of even a LOCAL election.

He's not mentioned what would be grounds for "disqualification" other than admitting one votes Liberal.

It's all about VOTER SUPPRESSION and Sybil cannot admit WHY conservatives are so AFRAID of everyone voting.

So Sybil, maybe you should tell TRUMP that he's not president. Are you admitting that Trump LIED when he said the election was "stolen" and that he actually won?

We are still suffering the effects of Trump's corruption and ineptitude. It's goiing to take time to fix.

At 6:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a slime pit this is. Tom must love it. The leader of the slime pit.

At 10:05 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

We are just trying to make you comfortable Sybil. LOL

I guess you can't tell us why conservatives are afraid of people voting.

You can't tell us why new magic ID's are necessary.

You can't tell us who will PAY for all these new ID's and what the grounds for refusal would be.

You can't admit that trump LIED about the election being stolen

You refuse to admit that the Covid "hot spots" are in states where the governors are thwarting efforts to contain it and that over 95% of all hospitalizations (and deaths) are the UNVACCINATED.

You can't tell us if you are vaccinated.

Actually you COULD answer these things, you just WON'T

Why is that? (wink)

At 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to Rasmussen’s Daily Presential Tracking Poll, Biden was at a 43 percent approval rating for October 8 among likely voters, with a 56 disapproval rating. In comparison, Trump was at a 46 percent approval rating for October 6, 2017 and a 53 percent disapproval rating.

1st Term Presidential Job Approval % – Oct 7th

10/7/09 – Barack Obama – 49%
10/7/17 – Donald Trump – 46%
10/7/21 – Joe Biden – 43%

— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) October 7, 2021

The daily tracker also points to Biden’s total approval index. With 23 percent of likely voters saying they “strongly approve” of the job Biden is doing, and 47 percent saying they “strongly disapprove,” this gives the president a Presidential Approval Index rating of -24.

For Trump, on October 6, 2017 that Presidential Approval Index rating was at -16.

A Harvard CAPS/Harris poll shared with The Hill 48 percent of respondents had a favorable view of Trump, compared to 46 percent who did of Biden. And, 49 percent had an unfavorable view of Biden, while 47 percent did of Trump. Voters also said Trump was a better president than Biden has been, 51 to 49 percent.

"Let's go Brandon"

At 11:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

CNN Reads Headlines On Biden’s Economy: “Christmas At Risk,” “America Is Running Out Of Everything”...

Thanks Joe!

At 12:41 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

How is Christmas at risk?

So President Obama was more popular than Trump, as I said, and Trump never once saw 50% EVER. But keep telling only part of the story. LOL

You can't tell us why conservatives are afraid of people voting.

You can't tell us why new magic ID's are necessary.

You can't tell us who will PAY for all these new ID's and what the grounds for refusal would be.

You can't admit that trump LIED about the election being stolen

You refuse to admit that the Covid "hot spots" are in states where the governors are thwarting efforts to contain it and that over 95% of all hospitalizations (and deaths) are the UNVACCINATED.

You can't tell us if you are vaccinated.

One wonders why you are so afraid to answer these questions.


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