Tuesday, October 05, 2021

Almost Legal


I've been using this argument for years. Here is a list of ten noted people who died because of excessive smoking:

Humphrey Bogart
Edward R. Murrow
Nat King Cole
George Harrison
John Huston
Noel Coward
Betty Grable
Walt Disney
Gary Cooper
Peter Jennings

Here is another list. Ten famous people who drank themselves to death:

Tennessee Williams

Jack Kerouac
Truman Capote
Lorenz Hart
Veronica Lake
Bix Beiderbecke
Montgomery Clift
Dylan Thomas
John Barrymore
Errol Flynn

Now give the name of one celebrated person who died from too much grass. You can't do it, can you. Don't worry, neither can I. Not only am I unable to name a single person who died in that matter, I'm not aware of it happening in all recorded human history. Now after decades of the misery they put us through, it's about to be legalized nationwide. We're almost there - be patient.

One night in 1976, I was an eyewitness to a friend of mine being arrested in the parking lot of the local high school for the possession of one joint. Although only a teenager at the time, he ended up doing one year in the county jail for his "offence" against society. That was at the height of New York's idiotic Rockefeller drug laws. So many people of my generation had their lives destroyed for inhaling a substance that is harmful to absolutely no one - not even themselves. That friend of mine died about ten years ago. After doing a year in the can, he was never able to get his life back on track. He eventually succumbed to the rigors of poverty and mental illness. I can't help but wonder if he'd still be alive today had he not been in the wrong place at the wrong time on a long ago summer night so many decades before.

I'm not a pot smoker. I gave up the stuff on my nineteenth birthday - which, coincidentally, was the same day that Elvis Presley passed away. Elvis and I quit drugs at the same moment. The difference being that I did so voluntarily. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Recently, the head shop a quarter of a mile down the road from where I live advertised in its window that it had in stock THC vapes for sale. Legal grass??? How good could it possibly be, I thought? I purchased one -  just
 out of curiosity, you understand. I was amazed at how powerful the stuff was. Truth be told: I was wasted. Listening to the Beatles' White Album while high is still a pretty far out experience (man). The irony is that, once I had tried it, no one was harmed - not even myself. I didn't have the urge to steal from anyone. There was no desire to rob anyone at gunpoint in order to feed my "habit". The only need I had was to take a nap. I did. I woke up after a couple of hours and life went on as before. All is well with the world. I am fine. You are fine, too, I'm sure.

We're about to enter a brave (and slightly weird) new world. Legal grass is an idea that is long overdue. It was made illegal in 1937 when the oil industry figured out that hemp could be made into fuel. Lawmakers implied that the marijuana high would make black men lust after white women. That is why it was outlawed in the first place. Pretty lame excuse, huh? We've been waiting for this moment for eighty-four years. Have a marijuana if you want.

Tom Degan​
Goshen, NY


SUGGESTED LISTENING:

Are You Experienced?
by The Jimi Hendrix Experience


Recorded in merrie olde England in October of 1966, this was the LP that put Jimi Hendrix on the map. This one was always nice to listen to while toking on a joint and sipping red wine. Right up into the clouds.....

All three members of this band are passed away. 

69 Comments:

At 5:23 PM, Anonymous kanecamp said...

It's been legal in Maine for a few years now, both medical and recreational (though the recreational came later). As a 74 year old woman (yes, ex-hippie), living in the Great State of Maine, I appreciate the forward-thinking powers that be.

 
At 5:28 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Despite its medical usefulness, many Americans’ attitudes towards cannabis shifted at the turn of the century. This was at least partly motivated by Mexican immigration to the U.S. around the time of the 1910 Mexican Revolution, according to Eric Schlosser, author of Reefer Madness: Sex, Drugs, and Cheap Labor in the American Black Market.

Let's get one thing clear, marijuana was not made illegal because it caused "insanity, criminality, and death" - Harry J. Aslinger. It was made illegal in an attempt to control Mexican immigration into the United States, and to help boost the profits of large pharmaceutical companies.
https://globalmillennial.org/whywasmarijuanamadeillegal/

Marijuana was outlawed with a number of other common vices as part of Mormon religious prohibitions enacted into law. Other state laws 1915-37. Marijuana was outlawed in 30 states by 1930. There were two primary reasons for the laws. In the southwestern states, marijuana was outlawed because of racial prejudice against the Mexicans who used it.
https://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/LIBRARY/mj_outlawed.htm

 
At 5:32 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Long term cannabis use increases the risk of lung cancer in young adults.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

 
At 5:42 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, marijuana was made illegal because William Randolph Hearst had HUGE interests in wood pulp for his newspaper empire, and didn;t want hemp paper cutting into his profits. He actually blamed it for Blacks being "rapists" in an attempt to scare White people into supporting it's prohibition.

Funny how YOU would bring up "racial prejudice against Mexicans" given your obsession with the Southern border.

BTW, my Grandpa was REQUIRED to set aside a chunk of land to grow hemp for the war effort in the 40's.

 
At 5:43 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

There is no actual evidence that anyone has ever gotten lung cancer from smoking Pot. It's a scare tactic.

 
At 6:15 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

MOFART, I guess you didn't see the link that was provided. Nice to see you're using all of your mental capacities and vision. (LMAO) Here it is again, it's rather scientific, I hope you can understand it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

Mofart, You are an idiot, I posted, with links, the info on Mexicans and pot to respond to Tom's statement that "Lawmakers implied that the marijuana high would make black men lust after white women."

It's interesting that you STILL can't follow the simplest line of logic and are desperately lacking in cognitive skills. Bet your brother ties you in knots at family get together's.

 
At 6:57 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, do you not understand the money that is behind keeping Pot illegal? Do you not get how much money law enforcement gets to bust pot users? It'[s a BILLION dollar cash cow. PLus it makes it easier to arrest and imprison BLACKS while WHITES go free.

I stand by my statements, and still wonder how you can defend Mexicans with one hand and attack them for crossing the border carrying Covid and support trump calling them "animals" with the other.

And to date you have yet to deny that you support the insurrectionists and the con artist that used them...

Prove me wrong.

 
At 8:11 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Mofart, do you know I really don't care if its made legal or not? I'm a libertarian on that issue. You on the other hand are a blind to reality liberal.

Did you read the line supporting my post that long term cannabis use increases the risk of lung cancer in young adults? Didn't think so, it would be too scientific for you to understand anyway. Did you read it?

To date do you still support the Biden Border plan with it's Fentanyl drug traffic and human trafficking across our southern border?

Do you still support not asking Biden "bad questions"?

To date do you still support allowing drag queens to speak in drag in grade school classes?

To date do you still support the Biden policy of NOT vaccinating those crossing our border illegally while requiring govt workers to be vaccinated?

To date do you support Kerry Throwing Biden Under The Bus, Says President Wasn’t Aware Of Australian Submarine Deal? Biden wouldn't know what a submarine was anyway.

President Biden’s claim that his spending plan “costs zero dollars” gets 2 Pinocchios from The Washington Post fact checker
https://t.co/x26D1Wd4Ok via @GlennKesslerWP

Did you know that Trump was not President but you sure do act like he was? Is that because you've got nothing to brag about with Biden?

Did you know that blaming other people — even former President Donald Trump — for current woes is not working for President Joe Biden?

Did you know that Biden won independents by 13 points in the 2020 election. He is now down by the same amount with that key group?

And for more background, Gerard Baker noted in Monday’s Wall Street Journal, “The Biden presidency is a metastasizing shambles, a real-world case study in the perils of progressive impossibilism: open borders; fiscal incontinence; naive strategic idealism; mask-wielding, mandate-waving, dissent-canceling, authoritarian collectivism. Mr. Biden is Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer’s Apprentice in Walt Disney’s brilliant, nightmarish “Fantasia.” He’s seized the magician’s big hat and now everything he touches becomes a cascading waterfall of destruction.”

Prove Mr. Baker wrong.




 
At 8:43 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

"Libertarians" are just republicans too embarrassed to admit it. You support trump and the insurrectionists, which makes you a traitor. You aren't even a real American.

At least I own my allegiances.

Maybe you should tell trump he's not President. I told you he wasn't when Biden got sworn in in January.

And the person you quote from the Post is just a blogger and you got it from Twitter.

"Baker describes himself as a "right-wing curmudgeon"; writer and media critic David Carr described Baker in 2009 as "a neoconservative columnist of acute political views."

--- Wikipedia

So yeah, he's credible. LOL


I don;t have to prove him wrong, he's a British political hack who lost his job for being too easy on Trump.

Did you know that trump never won the popular vote, and never once saw 50% approval?

You still have not denied supporting the insurrectionists, and the instigator.

Go figure.

 
At 6:59 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Hey Sybil, are YOU vaccinated? I am an I'm proud to have done it.

 
At 9:57 AM, Blogger Jerry said...

I'm glad people will no longer be going to jail, but I fail to see how marijuana is some kind of cure all the marijuana supporters claim it is.

 
At 10:09 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Mofart, change the subject much?

You have still not denied your being ok with Drag Queens in drag teaching elementary school kids. You have STILL not told us what a "bad question" is. You STILL have not told us what you liked about the Biden border policy.

As for the rest of your drivel, thanks again for proving that you can't fix stupid.

 
At 10:11 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Jerry,

I agree with you.

 
At 10:11 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

"At least I own my allegiances."
Mofartly

To what?

 
At 10:12 AM, Anonymous Ed said...

Here in Michigan I was growing pot in my attic and basement when it was a two year felony to do so. Lo and behold, Michigan legalizes pot for recreational use via referendum. Now I grow pot in my back yard. Amazing!

 
At 10:40 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry,
Have you found any claims that cannabis has no therapeutic value?

Who exactly says marijuana is a "cure all"?

There are many proven benefits, from treating glaucoma to nausea due to chemotherapy.

It also alleviates pain in many chronic pain sufferers and reduces the use of addictive and lethal narcotics.

I don't like pain meds, and to take less, I use a topical cannabis treatment for arthritis because it really helps.

CBD is also a natural therapeutic medicine:

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/cannabidiol-cbd-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont-2018082414476

"CBD has been touted for a wide variety of health issues, but the strongest scientific evidence is for its effectiveness in treating some of the cruelest childhood epilepsy syndromes, such as Dravet syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome (LGS), which typically don’t respond to antiseizure medications. In numerous studies, CBD was able to reduce the number of seizures, and, in some cases, stop them altogether."


Animal studies, and self-reports or research in humans, suggest CBD may also help with:

Anxiety Studies and clinical trials are exploring the common report that CBD can reduce anxiety.
Insomnia. Studies suggest that CBD may help with both falling asleep and staying asleep.
Chronic pain. Further human studies are needed to substantiate claims that CBD helps control pain. One animal study from the European Journal of Pain suggests CBD could help lower pain and inflammation due to arthritis when applied to skin. Other research identifies how CBD may inhibit inflammatory and neuropathic pain, which are difficult treat.
Addiction. CBD can help lower cravings for tobacco and heroin under certain conditions, according to some research in humans. Animal models of addiction suggest it may also help lessen cravings for alcohol, cannabis, opiates, and stimulants.

 
At 10:50 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

JTF,
You mean long term SMOKING by young adults increases lung cancer risks. Still no direct link, as there is in tobacco smoking.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2755855

Association Between Marijuana Use and Risk of Cancer
A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis



"Study results were mixed, and we were unable to pool data for this outcome. In general, studies were limited by low levels of marijuana exposure, little information about marijuana-only smokers, and other methodological flaws. Therefore, we concluded that evidence of the association between marijuana use and incident lung cancer was insufficient."

 
At 11:03 AM, Blogger rustcoal said...

repulicuns claim that lung cancer is not attributable to tobacco smoking, mike pence being one of them.

 
At 1:49 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

rustcoal,

how about giving us a link to support your statement?

I mean "Long term cannabis use increases the risk of lung cancer in young adults."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

Science.

 
At 2:46 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...




https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/31/2/280.long

Conversely, there is also evidence that delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol may have anti-carcinogenic effects

 
At 5:21 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Copied right from the link provided: "Long term cannabis use increases the risk of lung cancer in young adults."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/

 
At 5:30 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

A link to a place that wants us to NOT legalize weed.

see, it's a HUGE cash cow for law enforcement, plus it's a great excuse to disenfranchise BLACK voters by charging them with felonies.


Funny how you accept science when it suits you, yet you won't get vaccinated. I'm thinking you drink horse de-wormer.

Prove me wrong.


To date NOT ONE PERSON has died as a direct result of smoking pot.

 
At 5:32 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil,

MY allegiance to the USA, and to the Democratic Party, because they at least TRY to help the working class, as opposed to YOU.

YOU are loyal to Trump, who is loyal to Vlad Putin.

Prove me wrong.

 
At 5:36 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, you STILL have not told us how many "drag queens" are actually teaching elementary School, and if you want to know what "bad questions" are, read your own posts.

I like Biden's policy of NOT calling refugees "animals" and if you got your inf from someplace other than Parler and other right wing propaganda sites, you'd see that President Biden was APPALLED at the treatment of Haitian REFUGEES by Trump's "ICE"

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/24/biden-condemns-border-patrol-treatment-of-haitian-migrants-in-del-rio.html

 
At 5:38 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

Thanks for proving my point Dave.

 
At 5:57 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Jerry, can you tell us how many people have died as a direct result of using cannabis?

 
At 7:59 PM, Blogger rustcoal said...

republicons; seat belt mandates, bad. CAFE standards, bad. global warming, fake. COVID pandemic, democrat hoax. trump getting reinstated in August, LOL. I could go on and on but what's the point, I could find "links" to fit the narrative but who cares. Have a brownie.

 
At 9:32 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry,
Anytime. JTF agrees with you, so ya got me there. ;-)

I should know better than to listen anyone but you two, amirite?

 
At 11:17 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

I know two, Chuck McGraw and Andy Nelson.
Keep claiming pot is a miracle drug Dave.

 
At 12:32 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Jerry, Who the hell are you talking about? You just made up a couple names.

NO ONE has ever died as a DIRECT result of using marijuana.

NO ONE.


Like Sybil, you throw stuff out with no context or source we can verify.

 
At 12:57 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry,
I'm sure Chuck and Andy are nice guys, if you know them.

What was it I claimed, Jerry? A "cure all"?. No. A "miracle drug"? No.

Where do you see those words, Jerry? Are they taunting you by doing a Mexican hat dance around your screen?

Or do they accompany the voices in your head, by any chance?

So many things that only you know, Jerry. So many things...

Maybe your buddy JTF can see those words too?

"Jerry, I agree with you."

"but I fail to see how marijuana is some kind of cure all the marijuana supporters claim it is."

Well, then. It's settled, Jerry. You and Vern fail to see the therapeutic applications, choosing to disbelieve the historical record, years of research, and thousands of case studies. Doctors even prescribe it, Jerry. Why do you think that is, Jerry?

Say, you never did tell me about those, "true facts that Hitler and his brown shirts beat, imprisoned, and murdered top government officials and elected German representatives before and after he was given the leadership off Germany".

Do you have any names, Jerry? A learned historian such as yourself would surely enlighten my comparatively dim understanding of pre-WWII history. Here I though Hitler murdered the Brown shirt's leader and others after he took power. It was called the "Night of the long Knives", wasn't it, Jerry?

How about just ONE name of ONE top government official? Pretty please?

Alas! I fear I am unworthy of the master's trouble. Serves me right for asking questions.

Surely there must be a miracle drug cure-all for my condition. None come to mind, though.

 
At 5:46 AM, Blogger Jerry said...

Thanks for proving my point again Dave.
You calling anyone a liar is hilarious.
Now back to you (as a self described historian) claiming Hitler's brown shirts never beat anyone up. Grow up you child, but I'm sure your constant use of pot has stunted your mental growth.

 
At 5:49 AM, Blogger Jerry said...

Go fuck yourself mofart. They were two close friends of mine. Of course you don't know them, they died before you were born. Now back to your lies.

 
At 6:58 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

LOL @ "Mofart".

Looks like Sybil has invented a new name to allow him to make up stories.

HOW did they die DIRECTLY from using marijuana? You conveniently left out the details, and of course since they are "personal friends" there will be no way to verify your BS claim.

Some of the most intelligent people on the planet are regular pot users. It doesn't "stunt mental growth". In MY case it allowed me to pass high school math because I have ADD and it helps me concentrate. It helps me sleep. as a working musician it makes music more enjoyable. My Mother in law had cancer and it gave her back her appetite when the chemo made her sick to her stomach.

Millions and millions use it for beneficial effects. But you ALLEGEDLY know TWO people who died DIRECTLY from it's use.

Yeah, right.

And what's this about "Hitler's brown shirts"?

 
At 8:06 AM, Blogger rustcoal said...

mitch mcturtle huffs and he puffs and he blows himself.

 
At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mozart is a commie,,prove me wrong.

 
At 10:46 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Mofart,

What does Joe not know and when did he not know it?

 
At 10:56 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

This is for Mofart...
Public Schools Bring in Drag Queens To Teach Kindergartners About Gender Ideology...https://www.westernjournal.com/public-schools-bring-in-drag-queens-to-teach-kindergartners-about-gender-ideology/

According to the Drag Queen Story Hour website (link below), the program “captures the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood and gives kids glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role models. In spaces like this, kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions and imagine a world where people can present as they wish, where dress up is real.”
https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org/#about

Mofart, still support Drag Queens teaching elementary school kids? Still deny it is happening? Still claim the term Drag Queen is insulting when in fact it's one used by those who are self proclaimed Drag Queens?

Just how wrong can you be?



 
At 1:05 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry,
So now you're seeing the words, "Hitler's brown shirts never beat anyone up"?

You seem afflicted by the same hallucinatory disorder that Trumpists have. Do you also see Biden as a socialist? How about JTF's lie about Mozart being a "commie", and his lie from another blog that I'm a "commie racist"?

I'd point out the historical fact that Hitler's Nazis used that identical tactic for demonizing their opposition, but that would make you even more angry.

Maybe it would make you feel better to agree with JTF more often? He does love his ignorant, lying, self-righteous hatred. You seem fond of it yourself, but I think your disorder is different from his rabid Right ideology.

So how many other words and objects do you see that nobody else sees?

Notice I don't call you a liar. I think you really believe in your hallucinations.

There's medicine that can help you.

Mozart,
Jerry made the claim "Hitler and his brown shirts beat, imprisoned, and murdered top government officials and elected German representatives before and after he was given the leadership off Germany", at my blog.

He was angry at me for comparing the American radical Right to the early Nazi movement. I don't think he comprehends the reality of White nationalism, authoritarianism and bigotry in our political landscape. Unfortunately he can't tell us how the roots of fascism were different for Germans than Americans. Despite the fact American Nazis held rallies before the war and still do exist.

One point seems to have set him off.

For some reason he can't give me ONE name of a "top government official" brown shirts imprisoned or killed. But he sure can spew bizarre distractions and imaginary statements only he can see. It angers him when I ask for information to support his assertions. He shares that with Trumpists, too.

Jerry has issues. Bless his heart.

 
At 1:15 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I'd rather see drag queens in schools, than bigoted delusional Trumpists spreading their hate and lies.

Drag queens never stormed the Capitol to overturn an election for their sore loser leader.

And not one drag queen praised the terrorists like Trump did.

Dressing up as women is far more decent than dressing up as patriots and attacking our democracy, screeching, "Hang Mike Pence!" and "Hang Pelosi!"

Vern feels differently, of course. He'd vote for Trump again in a heartbeat.





 
At 2:32 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

I don't bother with low life losers like Dave and mofart. You answer their questions and they still call you a liar. No sense debating assholes like them.

 
At 3:16 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Aww, Jerry. I know you THINK you answered, but you really did not.

Where can others see your "answers"? Where's the name I requested? Are these at the same place I called you a "liar"?

If you try real hard, you can look up and see I said, "Notice I don't call you a liar. I think you really believe in your hallucinations."

On second thought, never mind. Let's not aggravate your mental condition with stressful questions.

You and your buddy JTF are not the sort who have the emotional stability, information, and inclination to answer questions.

Just one little point. "No sense debating assholes like them."

You see, debates require a case to include a presentation of logic, reason and evidence. So you really haven't "debated" anyone. You're just throwing ad hominem crap at the wall, like JTF's "racist commie" fascist lie about me. Maybe you'd like to join wild-eyed Trumpist Darrell and accuse me of "hating America", while you're at it.

You guys are a lot alike. While medication might help your paranoid delusions, there's no treatment for the bigotry and hate from the willfully ignorant Trumpists.

 
At 3:31 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

I agree with Jerry's assessment of Dave and Mofart.


 
At 4:34 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

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At 4:36 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Vern,
Your assessment of me was the fascist smear, "racist commie". Maybe poor delusional Jerry will agree with you on that, too.

Ask him nice now, or you might be an asshole too.

 
At 5:29 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Top Trump aides are set to defy subpoenas in the Capitol attack investigation.

Remember Susan McDougal? She served 18 months for ignoring a subpoena to testify in the Whitewater case against the Clintons.

Repeat after me: the Republicans made Susan McDougal serve 18 months in prison for defying a subpoena.

 
At 5:40 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Well Sybil, given that you ARE "Jerry" it's not surprising. LOL

And "Jerry" when we say no one has died as a DIRECT RESULT of using pot, you can't just say "I know a couple people". You have to PROVE it with something we can verify. Anyone can say they "know someone". And given your obvious relation to Sybil go figure we'd be skeptical.

As for Sybil's "source" about "drag queens" (why not just call them "faggots" and be done?), as usual when he DOES cite a source, it's the most unreliable right wing PROPAGANDA site he can find. If this is where he gets all his info, no wonder he comes off looking like a full blown MORON.

Of course with his attacks on "drag queens" he forgets Rudy and trump's little video...

"Overall, we rate Western Journal Right Biased and Questionable based on story selection and editorial opinions that strongly favor the right and numerous failed fact checks."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/western-journalism/


Of course, his link failed and when I went to the actual site I found nothing like the article he suggested, though I DID see some frightening BULLSHIT that I'm sure people like Sybil suck up as "fact" because it's what they WANT to believe.



"Overall, we rate Western Journal Right Biased and Questionable based on story selection and editorial opinions that strongly favor the right and numerous failed fact checks.

But what I DID find by looking up what he suggested was NOTHING wrong and all it was was PEOPLE telling kids about INCLUSION.

I think Sybil is a closeted Gay man.

 
At 5:44 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, just the words "I think" coming from you are a lie. I have no problem with CONTAINED Capitalism. We need elements of BOTH Capitalism and Socialism to provide a great society.

"Pure" forms of either don't work.

And as for Biden, picck anay subject, and I'll come back with what you not only tolerated but supported from your hero trump.

STILL no answer from Sybil about his obvious support of the INSURRECTIONISTS and the ringleader. And no admission that he's been vaccinated.

Go figure.


Jerry, JTF, and Anonymous are the same person. Prove me wrong.

 
At 8:10 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

An army of 60,000 illegal aliens, mostly Haitians, is expected to flood the U.S. border in the coming weeks, and a second caravan is waiting in the wings preparing to further barrage the United States.

One of the people spearheading the next migrant invasion is Irineo Mujica, a dual citizen of Mexico and the United States who is director of the leftist advocacy group Pueblo Sin Fronteras (People Without Borders), Border Report revealed Tuesday.

Mujica warned that he and his caravan of illegal aliens “are ready for war” and will reach the United States with or without the consent of governments standing in their way.

What will Biden do?

 
At 8:12 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

MSNBC: Polling Numbers Have ‘Fallen Off A Cliff’ For Biden, 60% Of Independents Disapprove…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw1ReZ2bxec&t=1s

 
At 8:29 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

"Independents" LOL.

Plagiarizing Western Journal again? LOL!!

An "army" of Haitians. Listen to you.

"barrage"

"invasion"

"leftist"

"caravan"


look at all the dog whistles for racist and the paranoid.


If the USA is such a horrible place under President Biden, WHY would all these people be risking their lives to come here for a better life?

Remember when the USA stood for HELPING THE DOWNTRODDEN?

"Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/05/1042518732/-the-greatest-heist-in-history-how-haiti-was-forced-to-pay-reparations-for-freed

 
At 8:47 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

BTW Sybil...


https://apnews.com/article/consumer-spending-gross-domestic-product-economy-business-ea9f24b146848b0821b549abb6cf78c8

And then...

https://www.yahoo.com/now/gdp-growth-under-trump-compares-121008953.html

 
At 10:17 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

I answered your question, which is more than you deserved. It's not my fault the answer is beyond your capacity to understand. Now back to your childish bullshit.

 
At 10:55 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

"Jerry" (Sybil) said...

Now back to your childish bullshit.

Says the guy who copies Sybil's name calling.

Says the guy who "knows a couple people" who died from pot yet can't seem to provide any verification.

I'd ask "Jerry" how he'd react if President Biden said and did exactly what trump did for 5 years, but he'd give some BS off the subject answer and then claim he put me in my place.



 
At 11:06 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

No, Jerry. You did not answer the question. You responded, but did not answer.

You could have simply offered it. "...brown shirts beat, imprisoned, and murdered top government officials".

One name, please. That would be an answer. And how on Earth can a name be beyond my "capacity to understand"?

One name.

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

Insults are your Trumpian responses to what you can't answer. All that wasted energy, just because you backed yourself into a corner and can't get out.

You could have been honest in the fist place. You could have said, "I don't have that information. Perhaps I was mistaken".

There is an honorable way out.

You still have the option to man up to your error. Or provide one name, as I've requested.

But I think you'll just lash out emotionally instead.

As you've been doing all along.

You have issues, Jerry.

 
At 11:34 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

You are the one who claimed to be the history expert. That was proven wrong and there is no where else to go from there. Now back to your lies.

 
At 11:56 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Say, Jerry, where have I "claimed to be the history expert"

When did I make that claim, Jerry? Are these more words that only you can see?

Since you can't show me ONE name, Jerry, how about you show us ONE lie from me?

Or is that also too difficult for you, Jerry?

Wanna back yourself into another corner and get angry all over again, Jerry?

You seem to be doing this just for the attention, Jerry. Just like you-know-who...

He's got issues, too.

 
At 5:00 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Dave, have you noticed how close "Jerry" is to Sybil's BS? It's clearly the same guy under a different name. No sources other than ultra right wing propaganda, and the "you are the liar" crap when he's caught.

Pretty much the same as trump in the 2016 debate. No actual answers, just repeating "wrong" to everything.

 
At 10:00 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Mozart,

It appears Jerry answered one of your questions, but it still makes no sense.

“Jerry, can you tell us how many people have died as a direct result of using cannabis?”

Jerry responded, “I know two, Chuck McGraw and Andy Nelson.”

Since Jerry sees words that I never wrote, he probably sees two people who died from overdosing on weed. Or maybe they died in a car accident, and Jerry blames the weed. We’ll never know.

We just can’t ask him for evidence or an explanation. His almighty word is all that is necessary. As with Vern and his radical Right beliefs, Jerry can’t question his own thinking and beliefs either. Their ego's, self-esteem, or simple sense of pride are too fragile.

Vern's bigotry won't let him be open to the fact it is absurd for an "army of illegal aliens" to attack our country, so they can be citizens. It is as ludicrous as the insane lie about antifa storming the Capitol to help Trump steal the election.

Such madness is rampant across the country. There are anti-vax nuts on the left and right.

You might be open to the fact drag queens do in fact embrace the term.

I may have been in error as well at some point, but no one offered any evidence to indicate it, despite my pleas.

 
At 8:21 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I happen to know a transvestite (who is not gay) who is greatly insulted by "drag queen". Maybe he's in the minority, but either way, Sybil uses it as an insult, and he clearly is bigoted toward them. Maybe he's covering for something, but either way, he clearly thinks they are "perverts". Funny how he supports trump and Giuliani even though there is that video...

I see it as the same as the "N word". If Blacks want to use it, fine. They have earned the right. The rest of us can show some respect.

 
At 5:28 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Jerry's correct, Mofart and Dave go back to their lies when proven wrong.

 
At 6:09 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Jerry is Sybil, who continues to agree with himself. And we already proved you "both" wrong.

Exactly where have we "lied"? We aren't the ones who made up two people that allegedly died DIRECTLY from using marijuana.

Still waiting for "Jerry" to show some EVIDENCE, but "Jerry" hasn't posted a reliable source in years.

 
At 10:02 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

mofart is Dave.

 
At 2:20 AM, Blogger Jerry said...

Hay mofart, prove this transvestite. Who is he? Prove his identity.

 
At 6:32 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I will be happy to when "Jerry" does. I will say that he is a retired HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY TEACHER (He retired after 30 years, he was not fired) who never once "dressed up" while teaching. He keeps it at home. His family are all aware. Most of his former colleagues are aware, including the principal of the school he taught for. Many former students are aware. NOT ONE thinks it's anyone's business but his.

But SOME would think he's a "pervert". I know of one right here.

And Dave and I do not employ the same writing style and we call you by different names. We disagree on many things, though they are minor. You, "Anonymous" and "Jerry" could all be sitting in the same room for the way you mimic "each other" though I must admit that "Groupthink" is almost universal in conservatives these days. Like you are all members of the same...CULT. Hmmm...

 
At 8:57 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Looks like science supports Jerry's claim.


“Numerous prospective studies have shown that cannabis use carries an increased risk of later schizophrenic-like psychosis,” says an article by Sir Robin Murray of the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King’s College London and Wayne Hall of the National Centre for Youth Substance Use Research at the University of Queensland. They cite a study showing that, though Portugal is held up as a pioneer in dealing with drugs, the rate of hospitalisation for psychotic disorders has increased 29-fold since decriminalisation 15 years ago. Another study calculates that between 30 per cent and 50 per cent of new cases of psychosis in London and Amsterdam would not have occurred if the individual affected had not been smoking high-potency cannabis.

Personal observation confirms this: doctors in mental hospitals have told me that they scarcely bother anymore to ask patients if they have taken cannabis, but simply assume it is the case. The situation has deteriorated as the proportion of THC, the psychoactive substance in cannabis producing the “high”, has risen precipitately. Once as low as 3 per cent, it has risen to 10 to 15 per cent in Europe and North America, though in Colorado, the first state to legalise recreational use, the THC can reach as high as 70 per cent. Those taking cannabis daily, particularly if they are young, face an escalating risk of permanent mental breakdown.

 
At 12:08 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Looks like "Jerry" follows science exactly like you follow politics. Only telling the part of the story that supports your claims.

"Personal observation confirms this: doctors in mental hospitals have told me that they scarcely bother anymore to ask patients if they have taken cannabis, but simply assume it is the case."

Any doctor that ASSUMES a cause without testing and research into the patients history deserves to be fired and stripped of any licence to practice.

As for Colorado...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/11/following-marijuana-legalization-teen-drug-use-is-down-in-colorado/

 
At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Let’s Go Brandon”

Another study calculates that between 30 per cent and 50 per cent of new cases of psychosis in London and Amsterdam would not have occurred if the individual affected had not been smoking high-potency cannabis.
Explains mofarts's problem.

 
At 5:38 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

What "study"? Sybil/Jerry is making stuff up again.

Are these studies or are they just "assuming"? LOL


Keep lying, it's all you have. We need the laughs.

 

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