Sunday, July 29, 2012

Singin' them ol' VP Blues

Taking into consideration the GOP's stellar vice-presidential nominations in recent years, 2012's pick promises to be quite impressive indeed.

I kept a straight face when I wrote that last sentence. Aren't you impressed? I just knew you would be.

Here's where it's bound to get REALLY interesting. At this writing, Mitt Romney is overseas, knockin' 'em dead on his 2012 Foot in Mouth Tour. After he's finished wowing them in Europe and Israel, he'll be facing some hard decisions once he's safe home o
n this side of the pond. The most crucial of these will be his choice of a running mate. Back in the day, the vice-presidential nominees were pretty much decided by the conventions. "Leave it to the collective wisdom of the pols" was the rule of the day. Not anymore. Lucky Mitt! He will get to choose the "man" (With only two exceptions, all of the women within the GOP are bat-shit crazy) who will be "a heartbeat away from the presidency". Given his recent choices, this one ought to be a pip.

I sure don't
envy the Mittster. He's found himself smack dab in the middle of one of those "danged if he does and danged if he don't" scenarios. Just consider the pickle that he's in. The "base" of the Republican party doesn't trust him. They never have. They never will. Forget the fact that he's a Mormon! He was the "moderate" (read: LEFT WING EXTREMIST) governor of the hated "Taxachusetts" - pro-choice, pro-gay - and the man who brought affordable health care to that state. He is anathema to the neanderthals who long-ago hijacked that party. What to do?

Here is his d
ilemma. In order to bring out the base, it is absolutely essential that Romney do what John McCain did four years ago: place on the ticket an extremist twit with the IQ of a half-eaten box of Milk Duds. That'll bring out the base alright. You bet'cha! The only problem is that such a choice will scare enough moderates into handing the election over to President Obama. However, if he chooses a reasonable and enlightened running mate (not that they even exist in that disgusting party anymore) the base will stay home. As I said - danged if he does and danged if he don't. Life is beautiful. Unlike 2008, you can bet next year's crop on the fact that they're thinking long and hard about this one. What to do indeed.

What he'll probably do is choose a
robotic nonentity; someone with a serious case of narcolepsy would be the ideal. In effect he needs to find a man who will be sure to keep his mouth shut. Just smile a lot, read the speeches that are carefully written for him - and for the love of mike, KEEP HIM AWAY FROM THE MEDIA! The very last thing they need is one of those Katie Couric/what-do-you-read moments. Just keep everything carefully scheduled and scripted. So who will be the lucky one to stand by the side of standard bearer Mitt?

I've got bells that Jingle Jangle Jindal....

My money is on Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal. He's just so right for the position. There's just not a lot going on there to be sure; a little Indian Ken doll. He's got all the personality of a mannequin in a Bombay men's haberdashery. He's from the south, and he's as non-controversial as a southern politician can possibly be. Also (and this is not to be underestimated) there is his undeniable "non-whiteness", which would be the perfect counterpoint to the president's undeniable "non-whiteness" - something they've got to be taking into consideration as I write these words. I'm placing all of my bets on Bobby boy. My goodness, he's perfect!

Think about this. Who was the last really impressive GOP VP nominee? Since I know next-to-nothing about William Miller (Goldwater's guy in 1964) and with the exception of Jack Kemp
(who ran with Dole in 1996) I'll have to say that Henry Cabot Lodge, Richard Nixon's running mate in 1960, was the last one with any real gravitas. The rest of them have been duds: Spiro Agnew, Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin - a virtual Hall of Fame of mediocrity. I have a funny feeling that the pickings won't be that impressive in 2012. That may merely be a guess on my part, but it's a pretty educated one. These knuckleheads rarely surprise.

"The vice-presidency ain't worth a bucked of warm piss."

John Nance Garner

t was then. This is now. I once read an entire biography of Harry S Truman where the name of his VEEP, Alben Barkley, wasn't even mentioned in the index. The first modern vice president was Eisenhower's guy, Tricky Dick Nixon. Although he didn't really care much for him, Nixon briefly became the acting president when Ike suffered a heart attack - and then a stroke - in the mid nineteen-fifties. To Nixon's credit he behaved admirably during this period, never overreaching his power and keeping the country assured the president was still in charge. It is not a well-known fact, but during his years as the Number Two man in Washington, Nixon reached out to - and regularly communicated with - Martin Luther King. He seemed like a fairly decent sort back then. It makes you wonder what happened to the man.

But the man
who changed that office forever was none other than Sickie Dick Cheney, the man who put the "vice" in the vice-presidency. It's by now a given that it was he who was really running the White House during the years 2001-2009. Dubya was just a pathetic figurehead; a dim-witted pawn in the neocons' twisted game of Risk. It was only at the very end of his two terms, when he refused Cheney's request (order?) to grant a pardon to Scooter Libby for the Valerie Plame affair, did George W. Bush finally stand his ground as chief executive. The kindest thing that can be said of Dubya is that he probably never fully understood what was going on around him. Imbecile.

So who's it gonna be in 201
2? Another top contender for the slot is the St. Paul mannequin Tim Pawlenty. Although that wouldn't surprise me I think Jindal will be their choice. Whomever they pick, one thing is without question: 2012 is going to be a very weird and wild campaign season. Fasten your seat belts.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY


Reader/blogger, Mack Lyons, has just suggested to me the ideal (for our purposes) running mate for Mitt Romney: ALLEN WEST! Can you imagine???

Here is a link to Mack's site:


The choice is Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. I never dreamed they would go with the author of that hideous "Ryan Budget Plan". Already conservative tongues are wagging that this is a huge mistake on Romney's part. Maybe. Maybe not.


Spanking the Donkey
by Matt Taibbi


All the Presid
ent's Men

This was the only time that I know of when the movie was actually better than the book. Jason Robards is perfect as Washington Post editor, Ben Bradlee. This is the best film ever made about journalism. I never tire of it. In fact, Sunday is always movie day for me. I just might watch it again this afternoon. This film is a must-see for any self-respecting political junkie.


At 8:15 AM, Blogger Mack Lyons said...

Personally, I'm hoping Mittens bumps his head and goes for Allen West for VP, so they can have sort of a "our good Negro vs their bad Negro" thing going. *grabs the popcorn*

At 8:18 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Wow, Mack! I didn't even consider Allen West! Wouldn't that be a scream???

Wishful thinking I suppose. [SIGH]

At 8:53 AM, Anonymous Fred Drumlevitch said...

There's method behind the madness, Tom, and it's not just about bringing out the base at election time. The VP selection goal for modern Republican presidential candidates --- who know full well how much criminality they have engaged in to arrive at where they are (as well as how much more they can do if elected) --- is to choose someone even worse than they are in order to reduce the likelihood of impeachment. Nixon forgot that maxim when he nominated Gerald Ford to replace Spiro Agnew, and look what that got him. Republicans since then have been acutely aware of that, and have tried to not repeat his mistake.

At 8:57 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

Good point, Fred. It makes perfect sense. Leave it to Bob dole to choose a truly decent man (Kemp). Although I did not vote for him, I think Bob Dole is a good guy.



At 9:22 AM, Blogger Jefferson's Guardian said...

Tom Degan: "...Sunday is always movie day for me. I just might watch it again this afternoon."

What time?! I'll be there! What kind of beer do you like?

At 9:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's going to be Marco Rubio for Romney's 2nd in command and Barack Obama will go down in defeat. Pretty pathetic Tom that you would sit there and defend 8%+ unemployment for 4 years, skyrocketing national debt and deficits year after year as far as the eye can can see. And that's the rosiest numbers available. Barack Hussein Obama was a total miserable FAILURE unlike Bush/Cheney who had a great 7 year run before the housing bubble burst (thanks Chris Dodd/Barney Frank/Bill Clinton/Janet Reno). Anyhow I look forward to reading your blog when President Romney turns this economy around to see what you're miserable about after January. You liberals got everything you wanted from 2008-2010 Obama's spending, Obama's budgets and Obamacare with a full majority liberal Congress who could and did do everything they wanted and you are SEEING THE RESULTS OF IT RIGHT NOW. Total and complete failure. People can't find work and statistically some of them are probably right here on this blog commenting and probably still defending Obama who had 4 years to turn this economy around and did NOTHING. So why don't you do a piece on your hero Barack Obama's successes in the last 4 years, you can probably bang it out real quick it's a short list at best, but more like nonexistent in reality.

At 11:48 AM, Blogger charles moore said...

Gee, Anonymous, I don't know what you have been drinking, but I sure would like to have some of it.

Tom, re Bobby Jindal, have we seen his long form birth certificate yet?

At 12:30 PM, Blogger Yellowstone said...

And then there is Paul (the Pitt bull) Ryan . . . ?

At 1:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My money is on Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal. He's just so right for the position. There's just not a lot going on there to be sure; a little Indian Ken doll. He could pass as a mannequin in a Bombay men's haberdashery."

Playing the race card Tom? Or just being a stereotypical liberal racist?

At 1:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee Charles, I know what you've been smoking. And that explains why you believe the failures of the last four years should be rewarded with four more years.
Don't forget Dear Charlie, that Obama himself said he didn't deserve another four years of he couldn't get the unemployment down below 7%.
Only a doper would forget that!

At 2:48 PM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

I referred to Pawlenty as the St. Paul mannequin. Is that just as racist or less so?

At 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

PaWlenty is white, so he is fair game on name calling. Jindal is brown skinned and any comment about his ethnic backgound is racist.
Unless of course the brown skinned subject is conservative, then they can be treated as if they were white. (see Clarence Thomas as an example)
Come on Tom, you know the rules.

At 5:35 PM, Blogger Modusoperandi said...

anonymous "Barack Hussein Obama was a total miserable FAILURE…"
He's not great. Neither's his party. "A fatal willingness to compromise with people who won't" and "feckless", respectively, come to mind.
"...unlike Bush/Cheney who had a great 7 year run…"
After two rounds of tax cuts, two unfunded wars (one fought quick and dirty with no long game so that the other could be expensively bungled), two major unfunded mandates, and a giant, enormous bubble, all they got was middling growth where the lower class sank, the middle class treaded water, with all virtually all the growth at the very top.
Without that bubble to ride, there'd have been no good news at all. But bubbles pop. It's their nature.
And you call that "a great 7 year run"?

"...before the housing bubble burst (thanks Chris Dodd/Barney Frank/Bill Clinton/Janet Reno)…"
There's plenty of blame to go around. "Banks can self-regulate" and "a hands-off approach to oversight", remember?
Oddly, only one party seems to have learned (however shallowly) how bad of an idea that was, while the other is doubling down.

Also, "Janet Reno"?

"Anyhow I look forward to reading your blog when President Romney turns this economy around to see what you're miserable about after January."
The Ryan Plan! Hurrah! As Jared Bernstein put it, "It’s as if these folks looked at America and concluded that the problem is that the poor have too much and the rich have too little.”

"You liberals got everything you wanted from 2008-2010 Obama's spending…"
No. The Stimulus was too small and too much of it was tax cuts, though I doubt very much anything better could've passed.

"...Obama's budgets…"
You do know that most of the additional spending was safety net programs, right?

"...and Obamacare…"
A combination of nibbling around the edges and old Republican party ideas is no what we wanted, but neither Single Payer nor a Public Option would've passed Congress.
Because liberals are just that powerful! Moo ha-ha!

"...with a full majority liberal Congress who could and did do everything they wanted…"
You don't know the Democratic party at all, do you? Sixty Democrats in the Senate is not 60 votes for Democratic party bills in the Senate. It's 50. Maybe. The rest are only Democrats because they aren't Republican enough to be Republicans in their state.

When the bubble popped, the equivalent of one year US GDP disappeared. Crashes like that take time and will to dig out of. The Dems ran out of time (as they hopped from the Stimulus to ten months of sausage making over the ACA) and the GOP is actively thwarting everything else. Even things that they're for.

"People can't find…"
Yes, but the banks are safe, right? Mission Accomplished. All the GOP has to do is gut what's left of Dodd-Frank and their Jobs Plan is complete. Seriously, their jobs plan is to vote in the House to repeal Obamacare over and over again.
Oh, and tax cuts. But not for you.

At 6:29 PM, Blogger edwin_ said...

I think Bobbie J would be too risky in that he is of indian decent & I think an anchor baby . His father came from india on a visa similar to today's h1-b visa which has given 5million us engineering jobs to indians an other mostly asians herein the usa.

At 7:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


You are still as dumb as a dog turd?

At 7:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


So what are your thoughts about Obama's stand on the 20 plus million illegals from Mexico taking jobs from legal American citizens.
Wonder if the engineering jobs Asians are taking are jobs most Americans wouldn't and couldn't do? You know the same line of B.S. liberals use to support their latest voting block taking American jobs, they are just the jobs most Americans wouldnt want?

At 7:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Nergo vs, bad Nergo, Better temper your joy, West would be debating Binden, the Bumbler, not the half Negro, half white President.

At 8:21 PM, Blogger edwin_ said...

""Wonder if the engineering jobs Asians are taking are jobs most Americans wouldn't and couldn't do"

the engineering jobs that are given to asians under the h1b visa program are $40-50/hr jobs that americans would like not to have given away. this is a corporate welfare program where the bankers and hi-tech companies claim that there is a shortage of workers ( how bogus is that at >10% unenployment rate)The lobbie congress with campain contributions . another reason to take $ out of politics. most NY banks have a deal with india to bring indian workers to the USA to allow banks to do business in india. Same with IBM & other hi tech comppanies managers are forced to hire indian engineers

At 10:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


So why doest Obama close off the visas? He, by edict allowed illegal aliens to stay, he could do the same with visas, unless he was on the take like you claim congress is.

At 12:19 AM, Blogger edwin_ said...

""So why doest Obama close off the visas? He, by edict allowed illegal aliens to stay, he could do the same with visas, unless he was on the take like you claim congress is""

Yes , Obama and congress are on the take. They get money from banks and industries. even democrats have to wink & nodd to pretend that there is an engineer shortage to get campain money.

At 12:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey tom degan,

where is the hope and change promised by the Pied Piper in the white house?

do you think the obamas will take seperate jets to marthas vineyard again this summer and waste lots of taxpayer money so that they can hobnob with the 1% that they villify in public?

we have had 41 straight months of unemployment above 8%.

last quarters GDP was an anemic 1.5%.

when obama loses in nov tom, will you write a rant that it was bush's fault?

At 3:55 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

And here I thought Republicans don’t make mistakes.

mer vice president Dick Cheney said in an interview with ABC News that Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) decision to pick Sarah Palin as his running mate in 2008 was “a mistake.”

“I like Governor Palin. I’ve met her. I know her. She – attractive candidate,” Cheney told ABC’s Jonathan Karl. “But based on her background, she’d only been governor for, what, two years. I don’t think she passed that test … of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake.”

On Fox News Monday morning, McCain responded testily, comparing Cheney’s opinion of Palin to his position on torture.

“I’m always glad to get comments four years later,” the senator said. ”Look, I respect the vice-president. He and I had strong disagreements as to whether we should torture people or not. I don’t think we should have. But the fact is that I’m proud of Sarah Palin.”

Re-elect "Cheney for VP". What could go wrong?

At 4:24 PM, Anonymous Liberals Are Sexy said...

Tom, another good piece on your part. Yes, I can't wait to hear who gets the VP nod. Will it be one of the Presidential candidates from this years or from last election cycle? A whole lot of wacky there, and exactly why Willard ended up as the nominee we have now. The best(?) of a bad lot.

There's basically nobody out there. I believe the bushes are being beaten now to find someone who can pass the sniff test. It'll probably be some obscure someone not very well known, but NOT a Palin type again. I'm sure there's a Republican female of color living in a convent somewhere who will fit the bill. Well, maybe not. Should be good for a laugh anyway.

At 5:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


"And here I thought Republicans don’t make mistakes" Like you have been told before, your first problem is when you think.

At 6:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


These Indians Obama is allowing to move here and take our engineering jobs, are they Muslims or Hindus?

At 8:56 AM, Blogger edwin_ said...

Ano..said: "..these Indians Obama is allowing to move here and take our engineering jobs, are they Muslims or Hindus?"
I'M not sure but they love the buger king wooper...hold the pickle , double lettuce , hold the beef, and put some curry on it ...They love to watch faux news , only to make fun of it . they always laugh at the climate denier 'scientist'

At 12:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the 1960s, Friedman famously explained that "there's no such thing as a free lunch."

If the government spends a dollar, that dollar has to come from producers and workers in the private economy.

There is no magical "multiplier effect" by taking from productive Just The Facts and giving to unproductive Dave. As obvious as that insight seems, it keeps being put to the test.

Obamanomics may be the most expensive failed experiment in free-lunch economics in American history.

At 2:17 PM, Anonymous Picard said...


Ofcourse if you're plan is to stimulate the economy, $50 billion in jobs for teachers is NOT the way to do it. That money should've went to struggling construction jobs to build another "golden Gate Bridge" that he keeps using as a justification for big government ,but Obamas gotta give all his Unions a cut. If he's such a fan of big gov at all why doesn't he build that pipeline. , job, oil = jobs, more environmentally friendly than shipping it to China anyway!

At 9:28 PM, Blogger Suzan said...


Come onnn.

How about Bloomberg? Or any other rich Rethug who just lives to starve poor people before allowing them to expire from easily curable diseases with heath care, which they'll never have.

I still have doubts (big ones) that Mitter the Quitter (yes, take a look at his record and his latest statements) will be the one "chosen" at the Convention. He's an obviously unpopular guy - even with the "in" crowd.

Let's face it. Obama's good enough on the issues the rich care about (gutting all safety net programs, screwing up terminally any more regulation) already, so why even bother with an election at this point?

Does the name "Bush" mean anything to you?

Especially since we've recently witnessed the supposed reclamation of the family's good name by the MSM (speaking for us all). Not to mention Cheney's arrival back on the national stage.


Awaiting a hot time at the Rethug Convention (if not Dim also).

It's really the election about the rest of our lives.

And we don't win with any of these candidates.

Love ya.


At 12:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Washington (CNN) – A group of conservative black pastors are responding to President Barack Obama’s support of same-sex marriage with what they say will be a national campaign aimed at rallying black Americans to rethink their overwhelming support of the President, though the group’s leader is offering few specifics about the effort.

The Rev. Williams Owens, who is president and founder of the Coalition of African-Americans Pastors and the leader of the campaign, has highlighted opposition to same-sex marriage among African-Americans. He calls this campaign “an effort to save the family.”

“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”

At the press conference, Owens was joined by five other black regional pastors and said there were 3,742 African-American pastors on board for the anti-Obama campaign.

When asked at the press conference for specifics about the campaign – funding, planned events and goals – Owens said only that the group’s first fundraiser will be on August 16 in Memphis, Tennessee. But Owens insisted that “we are going to go nationwide with our agenda just like the president has gone to Hollywood.”

At 8:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

( The President of the Coalition of African-American Pastors says supporters of traditional marriage are facing the same discrimination that blacks faced during the civil rights movement.

“Some people are saying because of the position that Chick-fil-A has taken - they don’t want them in their cities,” Rev. William Owens said at the National Press Club on Tuesday.

“It’s a disgrace. It’s the same thing that happened when I was marching for civil rights, when they didn’t want a black to come into their restaurant, they didn’t want us staying in their hotels. Now they’re saying, because we take a Christian position, they don’t want us in their cities."

At 5:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


It's interesting, in 2008, Obama was raking in millions of dollars via small, internet contributions. This was at a time when ACORN was getting millions of dollars of taxpayer funds and coincidentally, was assembling personal data via voter registration drives and mortgage refinancing "consulting". Fast forward to 2012, ACORN was exposed as a fraudulent criminal organization and shut down and no longer gets Federal taxpayer funds and Obama has fundraising issues.

At 6:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Come onnn.

da peeps be livin longer and longer!

it ain't da rich man keepin em down!

you be listen to dat pied piper obama too damn long!

you still have on those 2008 hopey changey glasses?

At 7:03 PM, Blogger Modusoperandi said...

Anonymous "Fast forward to 2012, ACORN was exposed as a fraudulent criminal organization..."
Lies never die, do they?
You're an awful person.

At 8:30 PM, Anonymous Jay said...

Once again, very thought provoking Tom and congrats on having the rabid right following your blog with their blissful ignorance.

I have my own theory on Romney's VP selection. Get ready for it:

A transgendered black female. It's perfect! Romney scores points with three minority groups with one pick: females, the GLBT community, and blacks. It's genius.

But why the speculation in the first place? Is there anyone who honestly believes that Romney is truly truly in charge of the GOP? What a crock and joke! And if Romney isn't in charge, do we really think the Conservative Overlords of the GOP are going to let Jindahl "play" President?

At 10:02 PM, Blogger Yellowstone said...

Watch Fox News: JEB and Rubio and company are going to pull it off!

At 11:32 PM, Anonymous Picard said...


That's actually pretty funny

At 12:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both political parties are talking about cronyism and insider dealing. But it’s only talk, because they are unwilling to take the steps necessary to clean up their own houses.

Begin with the Obama administration. Its leaders are quick to embrace the rhetoric of attacking Wall Street, the wealthy, and their insider deals. But they refuse to acknowledge that with taxpayer dollars, they gave stimulus money to projects funded by some of their biggest donors. Look, for example, at the great reporting done by CBS News on the subject of 12 clean energy projects and who is connected with them.

In the famous case of Solyndra, newly released emails reveal what the feeding trough looks like. In July 2009, George Kaiser bragged about how he was able to meet with “all the key players in the West Wing of the White House,” and the “almost unique advantage” he enjoyed in getting access to taxpayer money. As he put it in a speech at the Oklahoma Rotary Club, “There’s never been more money shoved out of the government’s door in world history, and probably never will be again, than in the last few months and in the next 18 months. And our selfish, parochial goal is to get as much of it for Tulsa and Oklahoma as we possibly can.”

The administration, of course, denies everything and doesn’t want to talk about this. And Obama allies deny that anything was wrong with this. They would all rather talk about Romney.

At 6:59 PM, Blogger Gregg Bayes-Brown said...

It's just as well you guys don't listen to us Brits when it comes to our heathen (yet rational) opinion on candidates, or the idea that this race is "neck and neck" would be dead, buried, and pissed on.

And where would be the financial gain for the parties in that?

At 7:01 PM, Blogger Gregg Bayes-Brown said...

PS. I do realise this post was about VPs. I'm just shocked and awed the discussion has even got that far.

At 6:35 AM, Blogger Clay said...

Tom, I always enjoy your posts, we're pretty much on the same wavelength, politically. I also enjoy some debate, and don't mind encountering differing views, when commenters can remain civil, and logical, and respectful of others.

Can't say that I enjoy the comments of your "anonymous", who is obviously a tea partying troll who gets his jollies abusing other commenters and pushing his demented agenda.

The comments section would be a lot more pleasant to read if you deleted his crude inanities.

Was going to say that I think Romney will select Rob Portman, precisely because no one knows anything about him.


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