Thursday, April 25, 2013

Portraits of Deregulation

Everything's bigger in Texas....Ahem.

Governor Good Hair
 "Here's what we know after more than a decade of Republican rule: Texas works."

-Governor Rick "Good Hair" Perry

Howdy there, Texas! How's all that DE-regulation workin' out fer y'all?

Governor Perry is absolutely correct when he tells us that "Texas works". What he neglected to mention is that it doesn't work very well. Molly Ivins, a native of the Lone Star State, once expressed a heartfelt feeling of gratitude toward the state of Mississippi: "If it weren't for Mississippi we here in Texas would be dead-last in just about everything." Dear Lord, I miss Molly Ivins. She was just about the funniest human being who ever walked this earth.

The fertilizer plant that exploded a few miles outside of Waco, Texas this week decimated part of the town. The plant had not been inspected since 1985 - nearly three decades ago. As of this moment fifteen are dead with an estimated sixty or more not accounted for. We can expect the death toll to go through the roof in the days to come. 1,350 times the amount of ammonium nitrate that was legal to have in one spot was at this site. In an interview on Current TV the other day, Amy Goodman of Democracy Now put it perfectly when she labeled this latest massacre "industrial terrorism". And this was indeed a massacre. Make no mistake about it. This is the price we pay for conservative form of governance. Are you having fun yet?

This is a topic I've been beating to death on this site for nearly seven years now. Conservative ideas and conservative policies and conservative politicians have destroyed this country. This used to be a nice place in which to live. It's not anymore. And if the people in the so-called "red States" keep going down the road they're presently traveling, it's going to get a lot worse for them in the future.

Would you like to check out a real, honest-to-goodness conservative paradise? Here's a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about: Have you ever caught those ads that are shown late at night on cable television? "For less than a dollar a day you can help Julio get the food he needs to eat and the clean water he needs to drink". You see scenes little Julio walking through garbage-strewn paths, attempting to retrieve water from a sewer-contaminated stream. Those ads always emanate from countries like El Salvadore or Guatemala - right wing dictatorships - places where there is no government regulation whatsoever! 

Wanna have a gander at what the conservatives in this country have in store for America if they ever unconstitutionally seize total control of our government (as they're trying to do)? The next time you take a vacation, visit one of those places. Have a lovely trip.

QUESTION: Have you ever come across a listing of states with the lowest quality-of-life for its citizens? They tend to be in the red states - with Mississippi, Texas and Alabama always at the bottom. What's the most progressive state in the union? With very little argument, it would have to be Vermont (home of my man, Bernie Sanders!) On every list ever compiled of states in this union with the highest quality of life, Vermont is usually at or near the top. Sure, people there may pay a bit more in state taxes, but their lives are a lot better than in shit holes like Texas or Mississippi. And the crime rate in cities like Burlington is relatively low. Tell me, where would you rather raise your children?

This ain't rocket science, kids. 

Amy Goodman
It's always a hoot watching Rick Perry trying to lure business from California to his state. His pitch? Texas has a "predictable" business climate, by which he means, "ain't no gub'ment messin' round here with all them damn regulations". As Amy Goodman pointed out during her Current TV interview, between the years 2008 and 2011 California had fourteen-hundred labor-related deaths. In that same period Texas had eighteen-hundred deaths. These are instructive numbers especially when one considers that California's population is forty percent higher than that of  Texas. Something to think about, ay?

The catastrophic explosion this week in West Texas that killed sixty-or-more people was pretty predictable, too. The more we allow corporate America to rape and denigrate the American infrastructure, the more we can expect this sort of thing to happen in the future. It's sort of like with guns: Less regulation means more deaths. Again, this is not terribly difficult to figure out; in fact it's kind of a no-brainer.

BREAKING NEWS: Right wing form of governance does not work. This is a lesson that should have been learned nearly a century-and-a-half ago during the administration of Ulysses S Grant. Why are we still having this conversation?  

Howdy there, America! How's that "Reagan Revolution" workin' out fer y'all??? 

I thought so.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY 


You know, I was just thinking: If the day ever arrives when true Progressives are ever able to take over the congress and the senate and every statehouse and every small town  government across the land, what would I do? What will I have to write about? Oh, the dilemma....


Here is a link to watch the interview with Amy Goodman this week on Current TV that I referenced in the above piece:

The gal's good.

John Barrymore

Damned in Paradise 
by John Kobler

This 1977 biography on the life and times of the actor, John Barrymore, is the best one written on the man as far as I can tell. Although long out of print, you can probably find it on ebay - as I did my copy. Jack Barrymore was a complete mess - depressed, dysfunctional, self-destructive - and (next to Montgomery Clift) the most unhinged alcoholic I've ever read about. But there was also something genuinely lovable about him. He's one person I would have liked to hung out with. It has been said that his portrayal of Hamlet on the stage has never been surpassed in the ninety years since. By the time of his death on May 29, 1942, he had been reduced to portraying crude caricatures of himself in B movies. What a waste - and what a talent. He was a truly brilliant, tormented and tragic figure.


At 7:29 AM, Blogger troutbirder said...

Thoughtful and well said. Five minutes after I saw the first reports of the disaster in Texas I told my wife pretty much what you wrote and added it would only be a couple of days before the reasons were revealed.

At 8:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What terrorist bombing in Boston, when did that happen?

At 11:24 AM, Blogger Tony Dunsworth said...

What bothers me even more about this is that anti-government crusader Rep. Ted Cruz (R-TX) who derides any form of gov't assistance outside of TX already has his hand out asking for federal funds.

I think the appropriate answer is No!

At 12:44 PM, Blogger charles moore said...

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At 2:05 PM, Blogger charles moore said...

Tony Dunsworth, I agree completely. Sandy Hook was a natural diasaster and the congress men from Texas did not want them to have Federal funds. The Texas explosion was an industrial accident, nothing more, and should be paid for by the industry that created the conditions causing it to happen. Isn't it ironic how they are always talking about how self reliant Texas is, how bad Big Gubmint is and how they want to secede until they decide they need Federal help?

And Tom, with regards to Perry's trip to Chicago to try and persuade businesses to move to Texas, he was pretty much laughed out of town.

At 5:04 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Had this been done by brown people with names like "Abdul" Limbaugh and Fox news would be out of their minds crying for "justice" and Obama's impeachment for allowing it to happen. Since it's a corrupt corporation who were indifferent to the danger they created, it's "accidents happen, taxpayers should clean it up"

At 12:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

James Tracy, Florida Atlantic University professor and Sandy Hook ‘truther,’ is at it again — this time, questioning whether the West, TX explosions were staged. Tracy teaches communication and conspiracy theories at the university.

At 8:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Mr. Speaker, like a kid at a carnival, I rise in full support of HR 527, The Responsible Helium Administration and Stewardship Act of 2013.

Mr. Speaker, I’m relieved that and I’m sure that the American people are relieved as well that Congress is finally going to do something about one of the most pressing issues of the day, that is… we’ve got to ensure access to helium for all.

Surely those harmed by sequestration and those harmed by the Republican failure to appoint budget conferees appreciate the House spending two full legislative days on this most critical issue. The American people certainly understand the fact that 48 of this House’s precious time was necessary to pass such a non-controversial bill.

I’m pleased to support this bill which shows that this Tea Party congress will make the tough choice to keep children’s birthday parties on schedule and give industries that rely on helium the lift that they deserve.

Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Guam Might Tip Over)

At 8:31 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

You know the Guam comment was sarcasm right?

At 12:54 PM, Anonymous Jay said...


I winced at your comparison of a "conservative paradise" to that of a third world country. I felt it was unfair and that you used a VERY big brush to make your point.

...but it's hard to dispute it.

I personally don't think this "conservative agenda" is that planful or thoughtful. They just aren't that bright. I don't believe for a minute that those that consider themselves "conservative" want this to happen. But in looking at many of their policies and ideology--What else could be the outcome?

It's very popular to HATE the government these days. If we just embraced anarchy and got rid of all of these pesky entitlement programs, everything would just be swell!

...or so conservatives believe.

In the absence of medicaid, social security, Meals-on-Wheels, and school lunches everyone will just have sooooooo much more cash. And with this extra cash we'll all start businesses and invest and make even more cash!

...or so conservatives believe.

And if we kick out the legs of support for those oh so lazy "welfare queens" suddenly, miraculously, organically, and magically, this segment of our population will "get it!" finally. Collectively, this segment of our population will all run out and grab jobs, go to school, and invest to better themselves.

...or so conservatives believe.

Now that we're all flush with cash in this conservative Utopia and unmet needs will be served through non-profits and charities, because we'll all be donating...right? In the absence of all these pesky taxes and fees prices will dramatically drop! From McDonald's, to Wal-Mart, to Apple I-Phones, prices will plummet!

...won't they?

This whole conservative agenda can be boiled down to a junior-high idealistic "Wouldn't it be awesome if..." mentality. To give conservatives some credit: Yes! Yes, it would be. But the entire approach is just not thought out. It's kind of like saying, "Let's travel the world!" without thinking of how you're going to accomplish this. Great thought--not very pragmatic.

I don't completely frown on some of the conservative tenets. We do need to reform our entitlement programs so that needs are met and laziness not encouraged. We need to remind people that social security is not a "retirement plan;" it's a supplement. And we need to get real clear on what is an actual "disability" and what is just "inconvenient."

These are not awful conservative ideas. But simply cutting funding and believing that suddenly our culture will "right" itself is just stupid.


At 5:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detroit, now there is an example of example of liberalism and government regulation if there ever was one.

At 6:10 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Michigan is a conservative state, and the economy crashed under Bush, which in turn contributed to the demise of Detroit. Maybe if the oil companies would not have fought fuel standards in American cars, people would not have turned to Japanese models. Nice try though, way to at least TRY to deflect attention away from the conversation at hand.

At 6:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That didn't take long, blame it on Bush, works every time.

How do you know the Guam comment was sarcasm? Because no one could be that stupid and a democrat liberal?

At 7:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Care to bet it's the fault of conservatives?

The Times’(New York Times) A1, above-the-fold story — which involved Freedom of Information Act requests, interviews with former administration officials and database work — shows how political appointees in the Obama administration’s Justice and Agriculture Departments turned a potential government court victory into $1.3 billion settlement for Hispanic and female farmers — some of whom never even claimed discrimination in court. The story also detailed how the feds relied on a flawed payout system for black farmers that was ripe with fraud and revealed that career officials in the Agriculture Department had opposed the program.

Calls for more regulation,
tough legislation

At 7:56 PM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...


I have to agree with you on this one. Just think of all the lives that would have been saved if abortion was regulated. I mean, think about all the humans that "DR." Gosnell murdered before he was stopped.
Wouldn't you think that something that is so very risky to at least one human of the two humans involved in an abortion, would be tightly regulated by our government? Tattoo shops must be checked to see if they meet health codes, but maybe not abortion mills?

Tom, do you know if "DR." Gosnell took more lives because he was not being regulated than the number of lives that were killed in the West, TX deregulated caused explosion? Americans need to know. Do some research Tom and get back to us with the numbers.

Time for all of us to demand more govt. regulation on those who offer the service of performing abortion.

After all, its for the children.

At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Bill Hickock said...

Chuck Morre, Re Dr. Gosnell "Americans need to know. Do some research Tom and get back to us with the numbers."

No, Chuck. If you want to know, then you do the research and get back to the rest of us. We will be waiting in breathless anticipation.

At 9:36 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

How did this turn into a manifesto on abortion? Oh yeah Chuck weighed in on a conpletely unreleated topic as usual. Well, to get back to the original subject had there been more funding for the EPA, West Texas would still exist. As for Detroit being "Bush's fault" indirectly it was, buecause his administration crashed the economy. Why does he get a pass? What happened to the conservative mantra of "personal responsibility"?

At 1:59 PM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Mozart1220 great question, this was supposed to be about deregulation, not about more funding for the EPA.

Not sure why the EPA needs more funding, the sequester didn't cut their budget, just it's increase for this year.

So the question then becomes if the the EPA was supposed to regulate the factory in West, TX what stopped them from doing their job in 2012 and earlier? There were no budget cuts in the years leading up to 2013.

As for Detroit, can you tell me the last time it's Mayor wasn't a Democrat? Look, if your going to blame the collapse of Detroit on 8 yrs of Bush, you might want to find out how long the city has been run by one party. Do a little research.

Bill Hickok, Old Buddy, you know you should never play cards with your back to the door. And to never ask questions on a blog you don't already know the answer to.

Let me put it this way, in the time it took President Barack Obama to praise the Planned Parenthood Federation of America for "saving lives and helping women and families" (12-minutes, 3-seconds), 7.6 abortions could have taken place at Planned Parenthood clinics, based upon the abortion data in their latest annual report.

According to that annual report for 2011-2012, Planned Parenthood and its affiliated clinics performed 333,964 abortions in fiscal 2011. That averages one abortion every 94 seconds. Look at this way, if the Presidents speech had lasted 24 minutes, 6 seconds, more that 14 humans would have had their lives ended in abortion clinics. More than were killed in West TX.

Think how many humans would have been saved from death if we only regulated abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood!

We must have MORE regulation because after all, it's for the children.

At 2:57 PM, Anonymous Tom Mix said...

Good ol' Chuck Morre. You have to give thay guy credit. He has never seen a topic yet that he couldn't manage to turn into a diatribe about abortion. You know, Chuck, since it is such an important, burning issue with you, we really appreciate your taking your time away from standing on street corners with anti-abortion signs to come chastise us low level intelligence readers of Tom's Rant who might not feel the same way as you do.

At 3:38 PM, Anonymous Jimmy Carter said...

Tom Degan

Under my administration the airline industry was deregulated, and many poor people were able to buy airline tickets for the first time to visit their loved ones.

I also allowed deregulated the telecommunications industry which resulted in cheaper and yet higher quality phone service for poor people to call their loved ones.

Tom, I ask one favor from you. PLEASE PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE!

At 4:06 PM, Anonymous Hopalong Cassiday said...

Jimmy Carter, cheaper phone service for poor people? Come on, man, don't you know that according to the right wing, Obama gives them FREE phones?

At 12:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regulate this liberals!

The New York Timesreported Friday that the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has likely enabled massive fraud in the Pigford series of legal settlements, in which black, Hispanic, female and Native American farmers have claimed to be victims of past discrimination.

The cost of the settlements, which could exceed $4.4 billion, is the result of a process that “became a runaway train, driven by racial politics, pressure from influential members of Congress and law firms that stand to gain more than $130 million in fees,” theTimes notes.

Among those influential members of Congress was then-Senator Barack Obama, who made Pigford payouts a priority in exchange for political support for his 2008 presidential campaign among a coveted group of black voters in the rural South, the Timesreports.

At 8:30 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Chuck, if you can't stay on subject, please keep your nonsense to yourself. Maybe tell your beloved conservatives the stop opposing sex educatin and birth control which would reduce the number of abortions. As for the EPAthe mosr mony they have the more inspectors they can hire. At the current rate it would take over 150 years to inspect every company they need to pay attentin to. It would also help if the government would foprce knuckle draggers like Rick Perry to step aside so they could actually get in to states who need the most babysitting. Now as for Detroit, the cities are subject to the whims of the State legislatures, and In Michigan that means Republicans. Salt lake City always seems to have a Democratic mayor, but the Mormon Church still runs the show there.

At 10:06 AM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Dear Mozart1220,
Please give examples where my
"beloved conservatives the stop opposing sex educatin and birth control which would reduce the number of abortions."
As for the comments regarding the EPA, I'll get back to you on that when I understand what you are trying to say. Although I do find it funny that in your post that you think it would "help if the government would "foprce" knuckle draggers aside" so they (EPA) could get into the states that need the most "baby sitting".
Based on the rest of your post, it sounds like your solution to problems like Detroit is to let a conservative, pro life church like the Mormon Church govern there. Correct?

At 11:38 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Chuck, your ability to twist meanings proves you have studies at the altar of conservatism for a long time. If you ever lived in Salt Lake City or Utah as a whole you'd understandthe idiocy and double standards the Mormons bring to "government". And if you need proof that conservatives have fought hard against sex ed (beyong) abstainence only")and birth control, then you need only crawl out of your hole and look at the real owrld the last 50 years.
Perry has been VEY vocal about "not needing government intrusion" into Texas, especially regulators such as the EPA and is in fact,currently on a mission to "poach" buisinesses into coming to Texas with just that lure of no regulations.

At 11:39 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sorry my typing is so poor, I'm usually in a hurry, and should proofread better before posting.

At 11:56 AM, Blogger Tom Degan said...

No problem, Wolfgang. I have the same problem. I'm still finding typos on things I wrote years ago!

At 6:14 PM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Lets take a look at the liberal double standard. Democrats were at one time in their history, anti civil rights, but they are no longer. Conservatives at one time were anti sex education. (To be honest, you need to define sex education.) Conservatives are still held responsible for views of 50 years ago, but democrats aren't?

I have not lived in Salt Lake City, nor am I a Mormon. It was you that used a Mormon controlled city/state as an example of something good, not me. I simply took your example of good and suggested it be applied on Detroit. Which needs a lot of good after over 50 years of one party (democrat) rule. So what is you problem with doing what you admitted was good?

One of the great things about the design of the United States is if you don't like the weather, rules, regulations, deregulation, or rate of taxation in one State you can always move to one that fits better your needs and views of governments role in your life. If the Head of State of Texas, wants to attract company's or business or people to his state, they will either move or not move based on what people beleive fits their views and needs.

Think about it this way, only one State (Nevada) has legalized prostitution. Knowing that, people can chose to live or not live there strictly on that alone. It is called Liberty! It's called freedom, right?
Texas, (I do not live nor am I from Texas) operates their State the way the majority of voters want it run. When the majority changes how they want their State run, then it will change. No one is forced to live in Texas or Nevada. New Jersey has different ways to tax and different tax rates than Florida. You can live in either place, its your choice.

Right now, California is losing population, it's citizens are moving for their personal reasons. I doubt they are moving from California because the tax rates are too low or there are not enough regulations or the weather sucks. North Dakota has a population that is growing. It is not because of the weather, (trust me). It is not due to tax rates, it is not due to regulation or deregulation on business. It's because there are good paying, middle class jobs there. Who knows, maybe Tom should think of looking for work there!

So ask your self this, if high taxes and lots of regulation provide the highest standards of living, why are people moving AWAY from those States where that is the accepted standard? People are NOT moving to North Dakota because of the weather, people are not moving to Texas because of regulation, and people are not moving to Florida because of higher taxes.

At 10:40 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Wow. Chuck got through a post without mentioning abortion. Inctredible. I don't recall using SLC as an example of something "good", in fact, just the opposite, and peope move for various reasons, and your oversimplification of the process (if you are even correct about population numbers)does nothing for whatever argument you are trying to make. More people voted for Dems in House elections nationwide than GOP, and only gerrymandering allowed the GOP to hold the house. 90% of Americans including many NRA members supported background checks on gun sales. enforced EPA regualtions would have prevented the explaosion that devestated West, Texas, and taxes are at the lowest point in a century. Californias population exploded in the 50's when taxes were 90% on the highest incomes, and in fact the nations economy boomed.
Sorry Chuck, but as my grandpa would say, "yer dog don't hunt"

At 12:11 PM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Mozart1220 said "...enforced EPA regualtions would have prevented the explaosion that devestated West, Texas"

Don't forget OSHA and ATF.

The claim Tom is making is that it is the State of Texas' fault for "deregulation". Last I checked, states cannot "de-regulate" federal programs.

So, which is it? Fed's fault, Texas' fault?

Or, perhaps, maybe, it could be the fault of an owner/operator who didn't comply with regulations which were indeed in place? Hmmm... now that's a novel concept.

This reaction before the facts is simply using a tragedy and sensationalizing for the purpose of promoting half-baked political agendas. The liberal reaction has been very confusing at best - if not downright stupid and insensitive at worst.

At 3:45 PM, Anonymous Sam Hill said...

Harley A: "This reaction before the facts is simply using a tragedy and sensationalizing for the purpose of promoting half-baked political agendas."

This is something the right does constantly. Most current example the Boston explosion.

At 4:02 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

MY point was that obeying the regualtions would certainly have prevented this disaster. Three people died in Boston which was tragic, and because it was "terrorists" it's #1 with a bullet on the news even now. Many times that number died and are still missing in texas, and because it's a corporation, there is almost nothing about it on the news other than the original report, which was its self, overshadowed by the Boston Bombing. THAT is the biggest tragedy of them all.

At 5:56 PM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

"there is almost nothing about it on the news other than the original report, which was its self, overshadowed by the Boston Bombing. THAT is the biggest tragedy of them all."

You are sadly mistaken by many counts on what was overshadowed, the largest one was this.

In the time it took President Barack Obama to praise the Planned Parenthood Federation of America for "saving lives and helping women and families" (12-minutes, 3-seconds), 7.6 abortions could have taken place at Planned Parenthood clinics, based upon the abortion data in their latest annual report.

And the very most sickest, stomach wrenching depraved inhuman thing was President Obama asking God to bless Planned Parenthood. Tell me, what would have happened if a President had asked Gog to bless the NRA? That is what you overlooked. You can not say you didn't know, you are now accountable.

At 5:59 PM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Sam Hill,
Explain what half-baked political agenda am I and my fellow right wingers promoting with the "Boston explosion"?

At 8:17 PM, Anonymous Sam Hill said...

Chuck Morre, how do you know if I was including you in the half baked political agenda? I must have hit a sore spot there. But since you asked, conspiriciy theories out of the ass, the Boston explosion, the Newtown shootings, Bengahzi and the list goes on. Questions asked and answered but conservatives refuse to accept facts.
By the way where do you get your abotion statistics, 7.6 in 12.3 minutes?

At 11:06 PM, Anonymous James said...

Chuck, ending all abortions is just not feasible, the adoption rate is less than one tenth the abortion rate. In 20 years the foster care agencies would go from 400,000 children to 20 million and their budget would have to increase 45 times. Do you think Republican politicians will spend 200 to 300 billion a year to support them?

At 12:23 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

Sam Hill -

Regarding your retort...

Either you are saying that Tom is wrong in acting just like the "right" - or that the "right" is justified in what they do because, after all, it is what Tom is rightfully doing. Which is it?

Mozart -

You stated that "...obeying the regualtions would certainly have prevented this disaster"

Generally obeying regulations will lead to minimizing industrial accidents, but I think it is over-reaching to say following regulations will prevent all accidents. But, it is a fair thing to consider - and I'm thinking is likely what is at the core of the root cause.

What is ridiculous and not rooted in fact is the notion that it is due to "deregulation" in Texas - which is the theme of the "rant". That's just sensationalizing and using the tragedy to forward a political agenda. Sophomoric is what it is. That was MY point.

At 12:36 AM, Anonymous Chuck Morre said...

Ok Sam Hill, you asked for it: "it took President Barack Obama to praise the Planned Parenthood Federation of America for "saving lives and helping women and families" (12-minutes, 3-seconds), 7.6 abortions could have taken place at Planned Parenthood clinics, based upon the abortion data in their latest annual report.

According to that annual report for 2011-2012, Planned Parenthood and its affiliated clinics performed 333,964 abortions in fiscal 2011. That averages one abortion every 94 seconds."

"God Bless Planned Parenthood, for saving lives.." B.H.Obama
And Sam you like Mozart1220, now know and with that knowledge comes accountability.

As far your comments on crazy right wing, I'm sorry, I didn't realize my appeal for regulation of the abortion industry made me a liberal. If it does, I will gladly wear the title!
Tell you what, I do not think there was a conspiracy concerning Benghazi, but I do not believe we have been told the truth about why the now known requests for more security before the murders, were not responded to by our State Department. And I do not know why the forces we had in Italy like two hours away were not sent once the attack started.

I do know is that V.P.BIDEN recently said Al-Qaeda was no longer a threat. I do know President Obama went to bed after being briefed on the attack and while that attack was still going on. And I know that when questioned about these events and the lack of efforts made to save her own Departments employees, Ms. Clinton said, "what matter does it make?"

That is what I know and don't know, and I would really like to have those unknowns answered truthfully by the "most transparent administration ever" as we were promised by President elect Obama.

James, I'm sorry, but your argument that wit is not feasible to end abortion is very thin on logic. First of all, you have bravely admitted that abortion is a form of birth control and population control.

Next, why do you think it is the job of government to feed people? I don't get fed by the government, I get fed because I use some of the $ I earn for my labor to buy my food. Must be a revolutionary concept for some.

And if you are that worried about possible over population if abortion is stopped, we should make murder legal. Or should we try to stop murders by making them illegal, knowing full well that in a civilized society murder is not legal, even though they realize they can not completely stop them, they have to make every effort to do so? I'm not sure what the total number of Americans murdered were in 2012, but can you imagine how many there would be if murder was legal, approved by the courts, and funded in part by government programs?
Go with me just for a second further with this. I could say "I'm personally against murder, but its the killers choice, and who am I to tell them what to do"? Or how about this, "I want murders,legal and safe and rare." Would this sound good, "the act of murder is between the killer and their victim, its a very private thing that no killer makes the choice to do easily". Or,"if murder was illegal who would take care of all the unwanted humans that there would be" Should would be a lot fewer mouths for the govt to feed.

James, could you live a a country where that was the logic behind the making the murder of humans legal? Would you stand for that?

At 11:28 AM, Blogger Harley A. said...

On cue - when called to the carpet, quickly run to a Bush bashing rant...

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