Thursday, November 11, 2021

ATTACK OF THE GOSAR


"Gosar". It sounds like the name of a monster in a grade Z science fiction film from the fifties. Or, perhaps, a villainous character from Tolkien's  The Lord of the Rings. It might have been Gollum's half-witted cousin. But the Gosar I speak of this morning (as I'm sure you figured out from the get-go) is not a character of fiction - science or any other. He is a human being (I think) that today walks the same floors that were once walked upon by the likes of Henry Clay and John Quincy Adams. He is the contemptible numbskull who just this week released on Twitter an animated video that depicted him murdering New York Congresswoman Alexandrea Ocasio-Cortez and physically attacking President Joe Biden. Nice, huh? He is a congressman who represents Arizona's 4th congressional district. His unnerving habit of rolling his head around while he speaks publically gives me the impression of a man deeply disturbed. If you think I exaggerate, check him out on YouTube sometime. I'm not kidding: the dude is delightfully bonkers.

Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez has been the subject of numerous death threats since she entered congress less than three years ago. Paul Gosar must know this. That very fact makes his actions this past week all-the-more inexcusable. He needs to be removed permanently from the House of Reprehensibles.

Unfortunately, violence under the great dome of the nation's capital is not a particularly new or unique idea. Students of history may recall the horrible incident of May 22, 1856 when Massachusetts senator Charles Sumner, a staunch abolitionist, was savagely attacked by slave-owning, South Carolina congressman Preston Brooks with a metal-edged walking stick. Sumner was wounded in the attack so badly that it was three years before he could return to his seat. Brooks was never prosecuted for his crime. In fact, in the deep south he was hailed as a hero. Sound familiar? By the time Sumner was able to resume his duties in 1859, Brooks was long gone, having died a horrible death eight months and five days after the attempted killing from an unexpected attack of what was known as "croup". I suppose it's a disease that modern anti-biotics  long-ago wiped out. According to a contemporary news account of Brooks' demise:  

"He died a horrid death, and suffered intensely. He endeavored to tear his own throat open to get breath."

Steadman and Thompson
Wow. The only artist in the world that I can imagine illustrating such a weird and grotesque scene is Ralph Steadman, the English artist responsible for the surreal visions in the books of Hunter Thompson. Can you imagine? Which reminds me, I sure wish Hunter was still around to report on the "bad craziness" of present-day Washington D.C. The only reason most progressive bloggers exist today, is simply because we no longer have Dr. Thompson around to kick out the verbal jams. Less than one month after George W. Bush's second inauguration,  he was in such complete despair over the state of the country he loved so much, that he put a gun to his head and ended it all. We who blog walk in the pioneering footsteps of Dr. Hunter S. Thompson.

Between the GOP's bat-shit insane rhetoric and the Democrats' timid ineptitude it's no-small-wonder that either party is still a viable commodity. I gave up my registration as a Democrat nearly twenty-four years ago. My opinion then (and still is) is that they long-ago forgot that they are (or were) the party of Franklin D. Roosevelt. But while there may still be a few pockets of hope among the Democrats (very few) the Republicans are beyond redemption. That is no longer a political party. That is a satanic cult. I miss the good old days when they were merely a threat to our economic security - and not to our freedom as Americans.

The Summit of Schmucks
Summit of Schmucks
Alexandrea Ocasio-Cortez is (in my humble opinion - and for what it's worth) the most extraordinary new-comer to step into the national political spotlight in my lifetime - and I was born when Eisenhower was in office. That someone as decent and as undeniably brilliant as she is could be the subject of such cruel and vile invective from so many sides - including a few members of her own party - is inexcusable. Today, Preston Brooks is remembered for no other reason than his attempted murder of Charles Sumner one-hundred and sixty-five years ago. In 2021, Senator Sumner stands like a rock in American history. I imagine that, by the year 2186, Paul Gosar will be remembered (if at all), just as Preston Brooks is barely remembered today: as a vile clown who spent his meaningless career planting the seeds of political dysfunction and chaos across the American landscape. Like Brooks, Gosar will end up on history's shit-pile. In fact, he's already there.

In one-hundred and sixty-five years, there will be statues remembering AOC. Count on it! There will be no mass movement to tear them down. Anyone care to make a little wager on this point?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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At 11:39 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

James Hodgkinson
Lee Harvey Oswald
John Wilkes Booth

 
At 2:18 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

Violence and death in the past only tells us it is not acceptable ongoing. Inciting people to violence is exactly what Trump is guilty of, and if Pelosi does not act against this member then she is guilty of fostering this kind of violence.

 
At 3:53 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Did Bernie Sanders incite James Hodgkinson to attempted murder?

 
At 3:57 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Prominent leaders of a Black Lives Matter group in New York City promised violence if Mayor-elect Eric Adams brought back the city’s anti-crime units.

“If he thinks that they’re going to go back to the old ways of policing, then we are going to take to the streets again,” Hawk Newsome, who co-founded Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, told the New York Daily News.

“There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed because we believe in defending our people,” Newsome promised.

If fire and bloodshed occurs, can we blame BLM for inciting it?

 
At 4:04 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Happy Veterans Day Tom and to all others who served our country in the military!!

 
At 5:26 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

LOL. Wow, Sybil has caught up. I guess eh was embarrassed to admit he was in dallas waiting for JFK Jr.

If there is bloodshed, it will probably be cops killing innocent Brown people again.

Will Sybil and his fascist buddies BLAME BLM?

Count on it.

 
At 6:09 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Thanks for your military service to our country Mofart.

 
At 12:56 AM, Blogger Jerry said...

JFT
YES

 
At 12:51 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

You are welcome, Sybil. My taxes earned from my hard work helped pay the MASSIVE "defense" budget, and then I have to contribute to "Wounded Warriors" every other month because YOUR GOP congress hasn't allowed a VA bill that actually helps vets through the senate for over 30 years.

Where did YOU server Sybil?

Or is that a "bad question"? LOL

 
At 5:41 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Bannon has been indicted. More to come?

 
At 5:50 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Another artist that could do such illustrations is Gerald Scarfe. He did the artwork and animation for Pink FLoyd's "The Wall".

BTW Sybil, Oswald didn;t kill Kennedy.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

 
At 6:09 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

Next up for cuffs and a perp walk: Mark (I will follow T****'s orders and defy Congress) Meadows; a total hypocrite.

Forward to the one minute "Mark" to see the "outraged" Mark complaining about congressional subpoenas being ignored.

Gasbag!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiW4PT_sqGc

 
At 6:12 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

But I could be wrong and it will be Paul Gosar riding in the back seat of an unmarked sedan to the slammer.

One can hope.

 
At 11:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael Byrd

 
At 11:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

James Hodgkinson

 
At 11:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee Harvey Oswald

 
At 11:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Wilkes Booth

 
At 11:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Famous Democrats.

 
At 11:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"BTW Sybil, Oswald didn;t kill Kennedy"
Mofart

Mofart is "Dumber than a box of rocks"

Woodenman

 
At 11:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Thanks for your military service to our country Mofart."

 
At 12:08 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

1860's Democrats are today's Republicans:

Defense attorney in the McMichael/Bryan trial objects to Al Sharpton sitting with Ahmaud Arbery’s family: “We don’t want to have any more black pastors coming in here .. sitting with the victim’s family.”

Trump to his racist insurrectionist thugs: "You're special. We love you."

“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” ~ Maya Angelou

 
At 12:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rene Boucher.

Dave, nice try but that dog won't hunt.

 
At 6:10 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Looks like Sybil is off his meds again.

Looks like Steve Bannon has been indicted.

You're welcome, Sybil.

 
At 9:01 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Just like that $15.00 per hour doesn't buy you crap anymore, thanks Joe.

 
At 9:04 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

It is great to have the adults in charge again. At least we have people who understand foreign affairs. Yemen’s Houthi Terrorists – Delisted by Biden – Stage Mass Kidnapping of U.S. Employees
The State Department said on Thursday that the Iran-backed Houthi insurgency abducted at least 25 Yemenis who work for the United States. President Joe Biden lifted the Houthis’ designation as a terrorist organization as one of his first actions in office.

 
At 12:52 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Vern needs to deflect from the stated fact his Dear Leader PRAISED the 1/6 terrorists.

His loyalty to Trump shows he is both a fascist and a terrorist supporter.

Therefore I designate Vern a terrorist. Like his leader, he is an enemy of democracy and the republic.

 
At 1:11 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, why would anyone WANT to buy crap?

And dave, Sybil still hasn't denied supporting the Jan 6 insurrectionists, which PROVES he's a terrorist.

he hasn't denied going to Dallas to wait for JFK JR, PROVING he's nuts.

And he hasn't denied being vaccinated, PROVING he's a hypocrite.

 
At 11:52 AM, Blogger JustMusing said...

Sybil is no Oracle and simply Trumpets the alt-rights lies and bile.

Steve Bannon does too; for a short while longer. No pardon waiting for him in the White House executive wing this time.

The same goes for Mark Meadows. And then Stephan Miller. And so on.

All the lies bore toxic fruit and those who ate it are about to face the price.

The boots on the ground insurrectionists are already going to jail.

Justice is working its way up the rotten tree of anarchy.

 
At 12:31 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I see a terrorist supporter wants to blame Biden for covid's effect on the economy.

They used to blame Jews for that stuff.

 
At 1:45 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Sixty-two percent of Americans surveyed in a recent Harvard University-sponsored poll agreed that people should not be able to choose their own gender and pronouns.

Only 38% of survey respondents said they believe that people can change their sex, according to the Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll.

The survey results represent a 24-point swing from a 2019 survey that revealed a 50/50 split on whether Americans believed that transgender people should be able to use the bathroom that best aligns with their gender identity.

Blame Covid?

 
At 1:45 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Just like that $15.00 per hour doesn't buy you a box of rocks anymore, thanks Joe.

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Terrorist supporters hate transgenders, and Biden, and truth, and democracy.

Terrorist supporters also hate what their Bible tells them:

Romans 13:

1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

 
At 4:21 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...


Joe Biden’s approval rating among American voters has fallen.
A new poll by the Washington Post and ABC News found that only 41 per cent of voters somewhat or strongly approved of the President’s performance, down from 52 per cent in April, while 52 per cent disapproved.

If elections were held today, 46 per cent said they would back the Republican candidate for Congress compared to 43 per cent for Democrats, and among registered voters the difference was even higher at 51 to 41 per cent.

In June, senior White House officials promised that rising inflation was just “transitory.” In July, President Biden declared that “the virus is on the run.”

And in August, White House press secretary Jen Psaki declared “the president continues to believe that it is not inevitable that the Taliban take over” Afghanistan.

But just in the past week, inflation hit a 31-year high as prices rose 6.2 percent over a year ago, coronavirus cases are ticking up again and the United States announced that Qatar will serve as its diplomatic proxy in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan — head winds that come as the Democratic Party reels from a set of unexpected losses in elections around the country.

MSN
Tyler Pager

Just some of the problems Biden created but tried to pretend didn't exist. Now here we are, only 10 months in, and everything is falling apart. Can't say we didn't warn ya.

"Come on man". Blame Trump or Covid, cause it just can't be the results of the Progressive Socialist Democrat agenda. LOL.

 
At 4:26 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Sixty-two percent of Americans are terrorist supporters?

Now that's a stretch from reality to avoid facing the facts. Fact is Sixty-two percent of Americans surveyed in a recent Harvard University-sponsored poll agreed that people should not be able to choose their own gender and pronouns.

Only 38% of survey respondents said they believe that people can change their sex, according to the Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll.

The survey results represent a 24-point swing from a 2019 survey that revealed a 50/50 split on whether Americans believed that transgender people should be able to use the bathroom that best aligns with their gender identity.

Follow the science, there are 2 genders.

 
At 5:17 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Terrorists and criminal cult leaders:

Bin Laden didn't fly the planes.
Manson stayed on the ranch.
Trump watched his coup on TV and refused to stop them.

Fact: Trump incited a violent coup.
Fact: Trump praised the terrorists.
Fact: Trump is a terrorist.
Fact: Trump supporters are terrorist supporters.

Vern is a Trump supporter who wishes Trump was president, ergo Vern is a terrorist supporter.


Vern can't prove me wrong unless he denounces Trump as a terrorist.

 
At 6:20 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Iowa Poll: In a potential 2024 match, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden by double digits.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2021/11/13/iowa-poll-trump-leads-biden-possible-2024-presidential-matchup/6385995001/

Mofart can't be found to comment.

Dave continues to lie. He makes up his facts. Just re-read his posts here and on other blogs for his "facts". No sources, just his hate filled personality expressing it's self. Typical of today's "progressive".

 
At 6:41 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Here are some samples of what other blogs owners have had to say about Dave.

Dave's most recent post is about you and you banning him from your blog. Anyone reading your blog understands what happened. Then in the comment section of that post he denied being banned from any other blog than yours. That is a lie (not unusual for Dave) because I have banned him from my blog and he dam well knows it.

Jerry
October 25, 2021 at 11:42 AM

Dave is obsessed with Hitler and he lies about others having the character of Hitler. Keep trying Dave.

Jerry
October 10, 2021 at 6:14 PM

Dave, you have been asked to leave this site multiple times now. Evidently you just cannot help yourself with your repeated propaganda. I turned off comment moderation not as a "welcome back" notice to you but rather so more thoughtful readers could comment without waiting days for me to have to approve their comments while I am busy working.

Further, you simply repeat your tired and often erroneous claims again and again. You cannot address let alone refute the fascism of the left in my article but rather resort to "orange man bad" diatribes yet again. To borrow from George Will, "America needs a reminder of liberalism before vulgarians hijacked it by the left, and a hint of how it became susceptible to hijacking.”

Please go away. I suspect you know how to be a decent human being still. Please find it within yourself to do so.

October 11, 2021 at 12:57 PM
Darrell

Anonymous said...

So Dubya, how come you cannot address, let alone denounce any of the fascist issues on the left that Darrell listed above?

Oh, never mind. Leftist fascists are banned here now. Not that you would ever address it anyway.

October 15, 2021 at 11:55 AM

Thanks for the info, JTF, but I no longer waste my time on Mr. Dubya's posts or comments. When I wish to know what the left is thinking, I go to other more thoughtful and thought-provoking left-wing sources. Anyone that simply wishes to throw "Nazi" and "fascist" fire bombs as a means of debate is not a useful source at all, other than as an example of how low the militant left has descended.

October 19, 2021 at 12:47 PM
Darrell

 
At 7:31 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

And somehow, JTF, you think we take you seriously? Only as a seriously deranged member of a lunatic fringe with symptoms of GodHood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

"On the day of Biden's inauguration, Ron Watkins, a former site administrator for 8chan and a de facto leader among QAnon adherents, suggested it was time to "go back to our lives as best we are able"."

Yep that dog don't hunt.

 
At 7:43 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Who has asked dave to leave this site?

We know "Jerry" "Anonymous" and "JTF" are all the same person. Does it show his mental illness that he quotes himself?


fascists are RIGHT wing...

Sybil still cannot, or will not deny that he was in Dallas to see JFK Jr., is vaccinated, and supports the Jan 6 insurrection.

 
At 9:57 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Joe Biden is a racist. His latest ravings about Satchel Paige and his strange 1960s-style use of language declaring the man a "negro" pretty well syncs with all his other racist statements about Indian gas station attendants, Barack Obama being "clean" and "articulate," and all thatcreepy stuff about being in a swimming pool full of black children discussing his leg hair. There was also his funeral paean to his friend the late Ku Klux Klansman turned senator, Robert Byrd.

 
At 10:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

New WaPo poll: Biden approval sinks to 38% (new low), GOP leads in generic ballot by TEN points (51 to 41) among registered voters. https://t.co/teNHqtoTsR

— Tom Bevan (@TomBevanRCP) November 14, 2021

 
At 10:34 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Just the Facts is being a racist asshole projecting again.

Paige was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1971 as the first electee of the Committee on Negro Baseball Leagues.

He's saying Obama chose a racist VP. Only a racist would say that.

He's loyal the birther racist who said Obama was not born in America.

Two, count 'em, two, intolerant assholes banned me. So what? They can't defend against my facts, so they ban me.

And I didn't ban them. Who are the snowflakes?

 
At 12:08 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Since Vern brought it up:

I was banned by a neo-fascist radical Right Trumpist who accused me of hating America.

He got angry because I disagreed, exposed his lies, and called out his authoritarian hate.

I was also banned by a person who lied about what I said and refused good faith discussion.

From:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=134372208798387606&postID=2253836998848850800

”You claim to be a student of WW II, but your understanding of what the brown shirts did, is lacking. Your comparison to Nazis is just as lacking and your conclusions are plain wrong.”

I showed evidence to support my case. He did not show any facts to support his attack on mine. In fact he deleted my supporting evidence.

This is what both of them refused to recognize, and deleted from their blogs:

Holocaust Survivors and Trump

https://www.newsweek.com/im-holocaust-survivor-trumps-america-feels-germany-nazis-took-over-876965
'I'm A Holocaust Survivor—Trump's America Feels Like Germany Before Nazis Took Over'

https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/2020/10/25/holocaust-survivor-fears-rising-tide-ugliness-blames-trump-opinion/3740781001/
This 92-year-old Holocaust survivor has a warning for America about Donald Trump

https://forward.com/news/458540/from-joy-to-oyholocaust-survivors-and-scholars-react-to-bidens-win-and-its/

 
At 12:09 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

More Holocaust Survivors and Trump

For Holocaust survivors, Trump’s refusal to concede is a bad memory
https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article223718330.html
Bernard Marks, the Holocaust survivor who challenged Trump’s immigration tactics

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-01-16/survivor-holocaust-education-defeating-trumpism
Holocaust survivor: World War II education is key to defeating Trumpism

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/letters/fl-op-letters-holocaust-survivor-capitol-assault-20210205-hnvwgdi4ibf7jieulbuwlqk7ni-story.html
A Holocaust survivor sees shades of his past in the Capitol assault

 
At 12:09 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

More Holocaust Survivors and Trump

://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/382270-holocaust-survivor-america-under-trump-feels-like-1929-berlin
Holocaust survivor: America under Trump feels like 1929 Berlin

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/holocaust-survivors-auschwitz-remembrance-day-ben-lesser/
92-year-old Holocaust survivor says white supremacist imagery during Capitol riot "gave me taste of the past"

https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/opinion/ct-abn-crosby-holocaust-st-1021-20161021-column.html
Holocaust survivor on Trump: 'I've seen this before — in Nazi Germany'

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/commentary/trump-hitler-insurrection-autocracy-holocaust-january-6-20210127.html
Is it wrong to compare Trump to Hitler? No.

 
At 1:50 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

Why one would be dumb enough to engage in debate with a liar like Dave is beyond me. Dave repeats his lies here. He is simply sad.

 
At 2:11 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry, I left your name out as a courtesy.

Now you choose to attack me. Again. You and Vern are the same animal in different colors.

Show me the lie. I dare you.

You always fail to cite my words, or back your accusations with evidence, and then ban me, like a slithering coward. Not that I give a damn, because it reveals your lack of character and willingness to engage in good faith discussion.

Despite my requests, you NEVER showed where I was in error. Instead you accused me of falsehood without evidence. Very MAGAty of you.

Look above. Why do you dishonor those Holocaust survivors for comparing Trump and Trumpism to Nazis? You're hating me for the same thing.

What is your problem, anyway, besides arrogance, dishonesty and rudeness?

 
At 4:06 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Remember when FDR ignored the holocaust?

 
At 4:06 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Almost half of Americans believe President Joe Biden hasn’t accomplished very much, if anything at all, during his presidency, according to a WaPo-ABC News poll released Sunday.

Of the 1,001 adults polled, 63% thought Biden had achieved “not very much” or “little or nothing” thus far, with 45% answering the latter. The figure is far greater than that of former Presidents Donald Trump, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton at similar points in their presidencies, Politico reported.

The poll was conducted after the House passed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill (BIF), which devotes approximately $1.2 trillion towards improving roads, bridges, ports, waterways, rural broadband access and more over the next decade.

 
At 4:09 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Report: Harris Ally Suggests Biden Admin Is Racist For Not Doing More To Boost Harris As She Sinks In Polls…

Allies of Vice President Kamala Harris suggested in a report published by CNN that the Biden administration was racist for not doing more to defend Harris publicly as her poll numbers sink so low that some reports have stated that she is the least popular vice president since the 1970s.

“Many in the vice president’s circle fume that she’s not being adequately prepared or positioned, and instead is being sidelined,” CNN reported. “The vice president herself has told several confidants she feels constrained in what she’s able to do politically.

The report said that the Biden administration has avoided dealing with Harris because they see “entrenched dysfunction and lack of focus” from her. The report said that even her defenders in the administration pass around a satire article mocking her over her lack of substantive work achievements.

 
At 4:11 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...


Even MSNBC Is Calling Out The Biden Admin For Breaking Promise After Promise…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgw4pvQsXdc

 
At 4:16 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

And Dave denies the proof that Biden is a racist by accusing those who provide that proof as "asshole racists". Even V.P. Harris called Biden a racist. Using Dave's standards I guess she is now an asshole racist.

More proof that Jerry is correct.

 
At 5:15 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

You quoted me Dave. That's not leaving me out. Then you lied about what I said. That just means you are dishonest to the core. You are still crying about this, which just shows how childish you are. Move on, or at least away from me.

 
At 5:53 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

"Jerry" (Sybil), we all know you are "Anonymous" and JTF. Just own it.

You are still crying about a great many things, so I guess that means you admit to being childish.



When did "Negro" become a bad word?

Robert Byrd was in the Klan for less than a year as a teenager. he spent the rest of his life denouncing it.

Remember when FDR took Emperor Hirohito's side after pearl harbor? Nope, neither does anyone else. However, after Russia attacked the USA...

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/17/629601233/trumps-helsinki-bow-to-putin-leaves-world-wondering-whats-up

 
At 6:12 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry,

Yes, I quoted you, but didn't name you. That means I "left your name out"

It's all there at the link for anyone to see, though. Your tantrum and false accusations only indicate I'm in the right, and you're the childish one. Very MAGAty of you.


So why can't you quote my "lie", Jerry?



Well?



Still waiting...



Jerry?




Why couldn't you provide the correct information I requested that showed my error, Jerry?



Well?



Still waiting...


Are you there, Jerry?


Oh, I see.

You're busy schmoozing with your racist Trumpist pal, Vern. HE brought it all up, didn't he? I bet you're giving him a big thrill and tingle up his leg. He's very much on your side, Jerry.

What does that say about YOU, Jerry?

Why don't you tell all the folks how much you and Vern share your opinions? He's as honest and decent as you are.


As I said, same animals, different colors.


So ban me, Jerry. Ban me from the internet, Jerry.

Or you can man up, and admit you can't show where I was wrong.

Ha.

That'll be about the same time Vern calls Trump a terrorist lover for saying he loves terrorists.

It is sad how supposed adults can be so frightened and triggered by someone who has a better grasp of information. Both you and Vern are incapable of admitting to being wrong, and both of you double down by making more false accusations. No proof required.

Very MAGAty indeed. Why aren't you upset with Vern for bringing this up, Jerry?

Maybe you should drop your act, and declare your forbidden affection for Vern and loyalty to Trump?

They would welcome you and be happy to agree with you.









 
At 7:25 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

Thanks for proving me correct again Dave. Now on with your childish behavior.

 
At 9:58 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

I'm wondering what triggers the name changes...flashing lights, certain foods...

The personality remains constant, childish, repetitive, unable to form original thoughts, afraid and/or, embarrassed to answer the simplest of questions...

 
At 7:54 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry,

Still got nothing? I have an open invitation for anyone to go see where you tried to lecture me without facts, and then lie about what I said.

Here it is:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=134372208798387606&postID=2253836998848850800

It's all there as evidence to support my case and disprove your lie.

Maybe you should ask your buddy Vern for help in quoting my "lie"?
He's as honest and insightful as you are, amirite?

If you accuse someone of a lie and can't even show it, then that makes YOU the liar. Or just an asshole. It certainly does NOT make you the adult in the room. You've rejected the option of manning up to your mistake, like a little whiny, mean, brat.

The fact Vern takes your side tells us all we need to know. You both share an ignorance of history and contempt for me. Maybe you agree with him and Trump that, according to his Chief of Staff John Kelly, "Hitler did a lot of good things"? Vern never disagrees with Trump. And he agrees with you.

If you stop falsely accusing me, I can let this go. Can you?


 
At 10:28 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Darrell Michaels said...

Dave I am growing very weary of your continued and continuous hateful rhetoric.

I have considered outright banning you from my site, but your projection, deflection, dissembling, hatefulness, and lack of taking any responsibility is a great example of the modern day leftists and how toxic they are to a free and united democratic republic. I guess you are a really good example of a really bad example. That said, be warned that you are right on that line, as my ample patience is wearing very thin with you.

Dave didn't stop so he is now banned from this site.

 
At 10:46 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Looks like Just the "Facts" and "Just Jerry" need to bring in reinforcements. No facts needed, of course.

LOL!

Some people just can't handle the truth. And let's note Vern couldn't denounce Trump for his pro-Hitler comment.

Darrell accuses me of "hating America". My patience wore very thin with that bigoted lie. Let's see if Just the "Facts" and "Just Jerry" agree with that fascist hate-mongering.

Vern and Darrell are radicalized to that degree. Once you start to believe anti-Trump, pro-democracy dissent means "hating America", you've crossed into fascism.

Since they can't support their false accusations and lies about me, maybe the three of them want to send me to a special camp for people they hate? Authoritarians never have to answer questions.

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

 
At 11:36 AM, Blogger Jerry said...

You just won't give up your childish bullshit Dave. I did give proof, then you said I wasn't welcome back to your blog UNLESS I agreed with your conclusions. A childish stance if there ever was one, and now weeks later you want to cry to any blog that will publish your lies and that is deffinately the act of a child. Now on with your childish, crybaby rants.

 
At 12:17 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry,

"I did give proof,

Then why not show it, instead of babbling and projecting about me being a "childish liar"?

Hmm? You could end all of this by simply showing where I lied.

But YOU CAN"T.

I know better than to ask for good faith discussion from you.

You and Vern.

Quite the pair, I must say. Two peas in a pod.

And still neither of you are banned from my blog.

What does that tell you?

 
At 12:37 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

I did, you refused to post it. Refusing to post my comments IS banning me from your blog, you call it whatever you want. Now on with your childish rant.

 
At 12:45 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


"I did, you refused to post it."

Really, Jerry? And the dog ate your homework too?

AND you forgot what you said?

Keep slithering, Jerry. It becomes you.

 
At 2:01 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Facts?

Dave you can't handle the facts!!

You can't/won't denounce Biden for his racist statements and racist votes. Why should anyone answer your questions? You'll just attack them for disagreeing with you.

Everything that has been said about you is the truth. Anyone who disagrees with your views you call a fascist, or a racist. You don't understand or won't accept the FACT that name calling won't work anymore.

You have refused to post my comments on your blog, just as you have done to Jerry, all the while claiming to be n "old fashion American".

FACT is Jerry is an atheist, I am not, FACT is Jerry is a liberal, I am not, FACT is Jerry and I have civil discourse, while disagreeing with each others position. FACT is what Jerry and others have said about you is the TRUTH. FACT is you are full of HATE that spills over in each of your posts. FACT is you hold others to standards you yourself can not meet. FACT is when given proof of your position's failures, you deflect behind the claim of the VERY posting of those FACTS is racist. FACT is when someone pushes back, you claim you are being unfairly treated.

For proof just the exchanges between Jerry and Darrell and you and Darrell will clearly see just how. To be banned by Darrell says it all about you.





 
At 2:07 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Mofart,

Nice deflection, but the

FACT is FDR ignored the holocaust.

FACT is Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK

FACT is 911 was NOT an inside job

FACT is the Steel Dossier is a lie/false.

FACT is you have TDS

FACT is Woodenman was right about you.



 
At 2:29 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Vern declares: "FACT is what Jerry and others have said about you is the TRUTH"

Then prove it. LOL. Fat chance.

Of course Vern is exempt from showing any evidence to support his accusation. Because he's a fascist. Fascists never need proof of their accusations.

Vern and Jerry. Such a cute couple.

My blog comment policy:
"Only one comment and response will be allowed for anonymous trolls. Repeated, unidentified, and off-topic trolling will be deleted as spam."

The same goes for ad hominem attacks.

Chicken Vern posts as Anonymous, so what does he expect?

I've posted many of his comments, but he has a hissy fit for moderation of his lies and hate.

When did Jesus tell you to hate and lie about people, Vern?

 
At 3:01 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Sore Loser, I see three years later and I am still living in your head !

 
At 3:47 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

What the heck is 'tree equity’? Biden's spend and tax human infrastructure bill calls for spending $2.5 billion on it.

 
At 3:48 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Dave,

Thanks for proving Jerry and I right about you.

 
At 3:50 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

When will Dave denounce Biden for his racism?

 
At 4:29 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Hi James, good to hear from you, hope you and your business are doing well during the virus shut downs and all.

Have I misquoted you?

 
At 4:31 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

When did Jesus tell you to hate and lie about people, Vern?

Still waiting.

 
At 5:23 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Dave,

LOL, is that the best you can do? If you read your Bible you'd know that Jesus NEVER told people to lie and hate. Stupid question, but since I don't speak brainwashed maybe it makes sense to you.

When will Dave denounce Biden for his racism?

Short answer is "NEVER".

 
At 5:29 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Once again Dave proves Darrell, Jerry, Rex and I right about him.

 
At 5:35 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


Still no evidence of my "lie", even with the "best minds" of the internet making the false accusation.

That's right, Vern, Jesus NEVER told people to lie and hate. Yet you disrespect your Savior with your hate and lies.

Accusing Biden of racism is an example of your hate and a lie. His VP is a woman of color, and YOU are the hateful racist.


All of the people chanting "Let's go Brandon" are going to have smoother roads, faster internet, updated ports, and a cleaner power grid thanks to Brandon.

 
At 12:42 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

Paul Gosar about to be censured and removed from committee assignments. A good start. Next stop - expulsion from the House.

 
At 1:53 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Was Kamala Harris telling the truth when she accused Joe Biden being a racist?

"Yet you disrespect your Savior with your hate and lies." Is that the best you can do? Sorry Dave, that dog won't hunt anymore.

Once again Dave proves Darrell, Jerry, Rex and I are right about him.

 
At 3:34 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Yet you disrespect your Savior with your hate and lies."

Truth. Biden chose a woman of color for VP and you hatefully call him a racist.

Trump and his racist birtherism was OK with you and every other racist.

Another hateful lie is falsely accusing me of lying with no evidence.

Hate is all you need when you're a racist fascist who supports a racist birther who praised terrorists.

That's some beam in YOUR eye, Vern.

“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” ~ Maya Angelou

 
At 3:55 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Using the identical "evidence", or lack thereof, presented by my accusers, I can say, "Jerry and Vern are partners in a pedophile ring". ​

Gee, how could we ever know they are not pedophiles?

Better play it safe and assume they are partners in a pedophile ring.

See? I can play your game.

 
At 5:04 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

Now Dave is calling me a pedophile. You really are a sick, lying bastard Dave and thanks for proving it.

 
At 5:24 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Note that Jerry did NOT deny being a pedophile.

I report, you decide.

YOUR game, sport. Two can play.

 
At 5:28 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Got any more baseless accusations, Jerry?

I read somewhere that you have not denied being a pedophile.

The "evidence" is exactly the same that you provided to back your unfounded accusation.

So, if I'm a sick lying bastard, YOU are a pedophile, by YOUR standards.

Wanna play some more?

 
At 5:28 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Better call in Vern for support, Jerry.

 
At 5:53 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

"Jerry and Vern are partners in a pedophile ring".
I read somewhere that you have not denied being a pedophile.​
YOU are a pedophile

Your words lying bastard

 
At 6:44 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

I cannot believe this place has gotten even worse than when I left it three years ago. How and why would people come to a place just to curse each other out on a constant basis?

I guess you have been doing it so long that it seems normal but it is not. It is a waste of a forum considering we are living in such strange and dangerous times and none of it even gets mentioned here.

You ever heard the saying You should not fight in a burning house?

 
At 11:25 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Woodenman,
Welcome to the circus!

Just the Facts set the mood here, and Jerry joined his chorus of false accusations.

For context, JTF recently joined his pal Darrell in accusing me of being an "America-hating/leftist/fascist/commie/racist". Oh, and a liar.

Yup. All of that set the scene.

Now JTF and Jerry say I lie, yet cannot cite the lie. What does that say about these characters?

My theory is those two have some emotional issues with me that they cannot express rationally, so they resort to unfounded accusations. They feel threatened and need to attack me.

For what?

Who knows? They won't say.

One thing is for certain. They can dish it out but can't take it, when I turn it back on them.

Did you know I have exactly the same amount of evidence of their pedophilia as they do of my lying?

That is to say, none.

But look at 'em go! Full speed ahead with steam coming out their ears.

(I could explain to them that's a metaphor, but what's the point? They'll call it a "lie" because they reject the rational use of language, and ignore meaning, logic and evidence.)

The clowns have taken the circus. I'm here for the entertainment and buffoonery, not for information and good faith discussion. That went out the window long ago.

Sadly, this place is actually a microcosm of the madness infecting our politics.

Yes, the house is burning down, and we know who poured the gas and lit it up.

Madness is the rule, not the exception today. The enemies of democracy and equality have defiled truth and decency to the point we have an ongoing radical Right coup, still serving their leader's Big Lie.

The American Trumpist fascists are lusting for chaos, one-party rule, and civil war.

As you see, they're winning. The representative republic is falling. Democracy's last gasps are imminent.





 
At 9:13 AM, Blogger rustcoal said...

Federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour. What facts?

 
At 9:16 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

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At 9:18 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...



Was Kamala Harris telling the truth when she accused Joe Biden of being a racist?

 
At 9:24 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

It’s no secret that Americans are paying record prices at the gas pumps. Rapidly ascending prices also affect the cost of all the goods and services that are an integral part of the American economy. Farmers, manufacturers, delivery companies, repair people...you name it: They’re paying more to do their jobs and they’re passing those costs to consumers. So why now, of all times, is the Biden administration selling off America’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve (“SPR”) to Asia?

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/something_very_peculiar_is_happening_with_our_strategic_petroleum_reserve.html

 
At 11:05 AM, Blogger JustMusing said...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-18/china-says-release-from-strategic-oil-reserves-in-the-works

A little background music please: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/explainer-what-is-the-strategic-petroleum-reserve-the-emergency-oil-stash-biden-may-tap/articleshow/87770546.cms

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-tapping-the-spr-is-one-of-many-bad-options-to-ease-gasoline-prices-11637000861?mod=home-page

“If the Biden administration wanted to truly ease oil supply fears not for just this month, but in the two to three years to come, they could begin to seriously work with Iran and/or Venezuela to bring their oil back to market,” he said. “This would be the most powerful policy response from a price perspective.”

The possible shift towards a more balanced oil market has pulled Brent crude away from October’s three-year highs, explains Victoria Scholar, head of investment at interactive investor:

Oil is pushing lower once again today. Brent crude and WTI have broken below critical support turned resistance at $80 a barrel this week with bearish momentum sending the benchmarks down to lows not seen since the first week of October.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/oil-price-falls-as-us-pushes-for-coordinated-crude-release-national-grid-profits-jump-e2-80-93-business-live/ar-AAQQupG

"Brent crude has now retraced more than a third of the gains it enjoyed since the trough in August with losses accelerating in recent sessions, signaling a potential shift towards a more balanced market as supply catches up with demand."

https://fortune.com/2021/07/30/oil-company-profits-q2-2021/

"Rather than plowing those returns back into reversing 2020’s steep operating cuts, investing in production growth—or even bumping up their investments into transitioning toward clean energy—they have instead largely chosen to prioritize keeping investors on side."

It's damn complex and there are no easy answers to balance all the issues. But it does look like oil prices have peaked and will roll back some as supply catches up with demand. But since Oil companies would rather stuff investor pockets than expand operations, they are not doing their fair share to increase supply either.

 
At 11:11 AM, Blogger JustMusing said...

And for a really deep dive:

https://bizfluent.com/how-7571180-calculate-price-crude-oil-price.html

 
At 11:53 AM, Blogger woodenman said...

Dave, you sure have a strange way of being entertained. I never did see the world as you do, I am as comfortable criticizing Biden as I am Trump.

Most of the problems in the U.S. and the entire world can be traced down to the 535 people in congress and the last four presidents are all war criminal's as far as I am concerned, that includes Biden.

Any comments I make here will be purely political so I will not be taking sides and I am not interested in partisan politics.

 
At 12:50 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Darrell, Jerry, Rex, Woodenman and I are right about Dave.


Was Kamala Harris telling the truth when she accused Joe Biden of being a racist?

Why is the Biden administration selling off America’s Strategic Petroleum Reserve (“SPR”) to Asia?

 
At 3:18 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Woodenman,

Yes, I've found a sick sense of humor is helpful in these sick times.

It many look like I'm giving Democrats a break, but the radical Right Party of Trump are the most destructive force that has ever attacked our anemic, so-called, democratic republic.

Their ongoing coup is being white-washed, and the Big Lie still festers in the Republican Party.

They WILL be the end of the republic, if they have their way.

And I have no hope or expectation the Democrats will protect voter rights. With the likes of corpo-dems Manchin and Sinema, Republicans have the majority to shut down all progress.

They will succeed in tearing this country apart and inciting more domestic terrorism. Count on it.

There is no equivalent destruction from Democrats. Both sides are not equally to blame.

Not all war criminals and war crimes are equal either.

Obama was a corporatist manager of empire. He even escalated in Afghanistan.

There's a quantitative difference in the war crimes of Bush/Cheney v. Biden. Biden was absolutely a cowardly enabler, but he didn't start the damn war, didn't institute torture, and didn't incarcerate people without charges and counsel.

Biden was attacked by corporate media and the Right alike for ending the damn war. He really screwed up having faith in the Afghan govt. and military. But remember it was Trump who excluded them from the negotiations for withdrawal in the first place, allowing the Taliban to own the place. AND he called for the release of 5,000 Taliban BEFORE withdrawal.

Yes, the problem is 535 people in Congress. AND their corporate owners, the White House, the stolen Supreme Court with judges chosen by the Bradley Foundation, Donors Trust, Judicial Crisis Network, and the Federalist Society.

The problem is corporate personhood, and Citizens United.

The other problem is the anti-democratic, unrepresentative, and unfair advantages favoring the Right in the Electoral college, disproportionate representation in the Senate, and gerrymandered House.

When millions of the democratic majority of voters are denied their power of the vote, something is very broken.

That should do for a start in a discussion of the cancers on our democracy.

I'm not "defending Biden", as much as denouncing liars. I demand proof that Harris called Biden a racist. But as with the false accusations I face, none will be provided. She didn't. This is yet another Trump lie his cult regurgitates.

The liars and enemies of democracy are winning.

And I will call out bullshit lies from any source.

If falsely accused of lies without citation of the lie, I will absolutely let my accusers know how wrong and hateful they really are. I will mock them and play their dirty little game back at them. As you see, the snowflake accusers can't handle that.

Maybe you don't see the world this way, but I welcome your input and will not accuse you of being a liar if our opinions diverge.

We have enough of that ilk around here.



 
At 3:22 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Chuck, I am positive Biden is a racist because it is part of the human condition, to fear the other. Everyone is a racist to various degrees, even you and I.

By the way I will not join your group, I am by myself.

 
At 4:10 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Woody,

"Everyone is a racist to various degrees, even you and I, because it is part of the human condition, to fear the other."

This is sad, but I understand the viewpoint. People have all types of phobias and anxieties that may resemble or even incorporate racism.

Perhaps nature and nurture both play a roll. How does it affect children of mixed parentage?

I would suggest "fear of the other", hate, racism and bigotry are largely learned from racist/bigoted/fearful/hateful parents and peers.

Many of us grew up in homes where the N word was common. I was lucky to have parents who NEVER uttered that word.

A lot of the blame, or credit, should go to parents.

 
At 4:57 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

I was talking on a genetic level, part of how we evolved as humans. I myself have Black friends since childhood and even helped raise two black kids and their friends for 14 years.

But nobody can say they are 100% free of prejudice, even if it is microscopically small. To put it another way, nobody here is without sin.

 
At 5:14 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Prejudice is often the fallback reaction, for sure.

And we all have the "fight/flight/freeze" mechanism in the amygdala. MRIs show this to be more enlarged in the conservative brain.

The question is, are we evolving fast enough to save us from self-extinction?

 
At 5:22 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


More on Conservative and Liberal Brains

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/

Liberal vs. Conservative: A Neuroscientific Analysis with Gail Saltz

Conservative and Liberal Brains Might Have Some Real Differences

Scanners try to watch the red-blue divide play out underneath the skull

 
At 9:08 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Imagine this, Democrats are not telling us the truth... CBO: Build Back Better Act Adds $750 Billion to Deficit over Five Years
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found Thursday that the Democrats’ mammoth legislation would cost $750 billion over five years.
The CBO found that the Build Back Better Act would add $367 billion to the deficit; the Democrats’ official price tag is $1.75 trillion. President Joe Biden and other Democrats have claimed the bill would cost zero dollars.
The nonpartisan organization also found that the bill would add roughly $160 billion to the deficit over ten years, and almost $750 billion over five years.
The Build Back Better Act contains arbitrary policy sunsets and expirations to make the cost of the legislation appear lower and have the legislation comply with the rules for budgetary reconciliation.
The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget found that the legislation would cost $4.91 trillion if many of the policies and programs with sunsets did not expire

 
At 9:16 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

GOV WHITMER’S STUNNING INCOMPETENCE: MI Overpaid Nearly $4 Billion in COVID Unemployment Benefits

A new report from Michigan’s auditor general highlights Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s (D-Michigan.) incompetence yet again. Nearly $4 billion of unemployment benefits were paid out to people who were not eligible as well as delays for people who actually were eligible.

“A newly released report from Michigan’s auditor general says the state’s Unemployment Insurance Agency was “not effective” in its rollout of the federal Pandemic Unemployment Assistance and in turn overpaid at least $3.9 billion in claims to ineligible people.

The report highlights “actions and inactions” by the agency’s senior leadership that led to an uncontrolled system, delays for people who were eligible and nearly 350,000 ineligible claimants getting paid.”

TYPICAL.

 
At 10:37 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trump's tax cuts for the rich cost just as much, while BBB benefits the American people.

Not that this matters to the radical Right.

Bureaucratic bungling let 10% of the emergency benefits fall through the cracks. $3.9 billion of $39 billion.

Meanwhile:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-organization-kushner-companies-3-million-ppp-loans-pandemic-report-2020-12

Businesses at properties belonging to the Trump Organization and Kushner Cos., owned by the family of President Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, benefited from the government's pandemic relief funds, according to an analysis by NBC News.

The companies received over 25 Paycheck Protection Program loans worth more than $3.65 million. Loans that will not be repaid.

Welfare for the rich is never a problem for the Right.



 
At 11:18 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Republicans are very clear what they are against (everything), but what are they actually for?

What is the Republican plan for:

Creating jobs?
Raising wages?
Expanding health care?
Prescription drug costs?
Expanding preK?
The high cost of college?
Affordable housing?
The environment?
Criminal justice and police reform?

Answer: Tax cuts, voter suppression, gerrymandering, grievance, anger, fear, hate, bigotry, chaos, and their on-going coup.

 
At 11:29 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Iowa's Republican Governor Kim Reynolds improperly funneled $450,000 of federal COVID-19 relief funds to pay the salaries of her staff members and then concealed it by routing it through DHS.

 
At 11:49 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Who is telling the truth about the cost of Biden's Build Back Better plan?
Biden or the CBO?
President Joe Biden and other Democrats have claimed the bill would cost zero dollars
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found Thursday that the Democrats’ mammoth legislation would cost $750 billion over five years.

Names of people who have experienced "voter suppression" and when their claims will be settled in a court of law.

Criminal justice changes like those which were passed under Trump? https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-applauds-president-trump-s-authorization-antitrust-criminal-penalty

Which is greater $450,000 or $3.9 billion?

 
At 12:41 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

BBB is cheaper than Bush's wars of choice and tax cuts for the rich that boosted debt and deficits, AND it provides services to the people, as government is supposed to do under our Constitution.

It's called "government of, by, and for the people".

Restricting voter registration and mail in ballots, purging qualified voters, reducing polling places and ballot drop boxes are all restrictions on the right to vote.

Voting should be as easy as buying a gun. Why shouldn't it be?

Many of these issues ARE in the courts.

 
At 1:58 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Since 2000 the deficient went from 5 3/4 Trillion to more than 30 Trillion, Bush added 5 T, Obama added 9 T and Trump added 10 T in just 4 years. Biden will be doing the same so you can hardly blame one side.

They did everything right if the goal is to collapse the economy and they started two new cold wars to add the excitement of a three way nuclear war.

With all the unprecedented censorship going on information about the deadly vaccines is being suppressed. The narrative is slowly failing as more and more people become aware of the dangers of the vaccines. This will be an event of immense proportions as the long term effects cannot be hidden.

 
At 2:11 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...





Names and cases of "voter suppression". What issues and where are the issues in court?

List names of qualified voters who were purged.

Tax cuts for the rich, Democrat Rep. AOC Admits Biden’s Build Back Broke ‘Gives A Tax Break To Millionaire" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLU5Dh6x8Vg&t=2s

Buying a gun requires you do it in person, NOT BY MAIL and requires the showing of an ID, voting should require the same. You own guns Dave, you know that.

"that government of the people, by the people, for the people" (A.Lincoln) is the correct quote. Who said "government of, by, and for the people"?
Does this apply to voters who don't vote for Democrats or support liberal policy's? Or only if a liberal Democrat is in control of the government?

Bottom line Dave, you continue to post the same old hackney long in tooth arguments that frankly are not a winning or factual arguments. Those dogs won't hunt.





 
At 3:38 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

The wayback machine, but not that far back, shows voter suppression tactics are used often.

Purging is just one such tactic.

https://stories.avvo.com/rights/8-disturbing-examples-voter-suppression-in-america.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/georgia-voter-purge-list_n_5dba00d6e4b00d83f722046c

"A similar situation arose in Ohio earlier this year. The state was set to purge about 235,000 people from its rolls in September, but first, Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose (R) made public the list of people who would be affected. Voting groups praised the decision, then scoured the names on the list and found thousands of errors."

Plenty of qualified names in the article link.

DOJ is purging NAZI's.



 
At 4:13 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Thank you, JustMusing.

Vern,

The dogs are hunting, no matter what you say.

You got a problem with paraphrasing Lincoln? The point stands.

All my points are backed by evidence.

Some states have more requirements for buying guns than voting. Others do not.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2016/01/101169/state-laws-gun-control-voter-id

Georgia, Kansas, Mississippi, North Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Wisconsin all have strict voter ID laws, requiring voters to show photo identification before their vote is eligible, while their gun control laws are less stringent.

Voting Rights Litigation Tracker 2020

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/court-cases/voting-rights-litigation-tracker-2020


If you please, list the names of abortion victims.

I'll wait.

 
At 4:20 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Speaking of hunting...

Racists Rittenhouse and Zimmerman are free to re-arm themselves to go human hunting again. All they have to do is provoke the target, and say they were "threatened".

Boom.

Racist vigilantism is back in style.

 
At 5:36 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

RACIST?...How many non-whites did Rittenhouse shoot?
Racist, THAT DOG NO LONGER HUNTS, but I hope you keep using it as it shows the lack of depth in your arguments and your positions. If we don't get our way, if we don't win it's due to RACISM. Good God, do't you get tired of wheeling out that old saw?

Provoke the target, where's the proof? Jury saw nothing to support that claim of being provoked.

Just another example of the dangerous radical left reacting to when things don't go their way, like when they don't when win elections. Will riots be next? So typical, so predicable.

Rittenhouse is innocent. So much leftists whining. Sad.

 
At 5:59 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Chuck, there was nothing racial about the shootings but I am surprised they let a 17 year old off scot free. He goes into riot situation with a high powered rifle basically looking for trouble.

Even though all the people he shot threatened him, he exhibited poor judgement by getting himself in that situation.

I thought the rifle was illegal also.

 
At 6:02 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Hey Sybil, can you tell us SERIOUSLY that a Black kid carrying an AR-15 would have made it past the cops? And YOU KNOW that had he shot two people he'd have been killed BY the police, not handed a bottle of water and allowed to walk away.

 
At 6:03 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Sybil, voting is not a deadly act, and we all show ID to REGISTER.

And anyone can buy a gun with no ID from another private citizen.

 
At 8:33 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Waiting for Socialist Democrats, Liberals and democrats to disavow leader of The Revolutionary Communist Party, Bob Avakian.

Woodenman, no argument about the poor judgement. Just as poor judgement as exhibited by the guy who provoked him by hitting him in the head with a skate board, the guy who chased him, knocking him down and the other guy who pointed a loaded pistol in his face.

Why did the rioters chase and assault him? For putting out a fire they had started in a dumpster. For cleaning up their graffiti. Sounds like he really provoked them.

Was Gaige Grosskreutz,the pistol carrying leftist looking for trouble? Was his pistol legally bought? Did he cross State lines to get to the Kenosha riots?

Facts know about Grosskreutz:

1. Grosskreutz Approached Rittenhouse With a Loaded Gun, he was carrying a gun despite having an expired concealed carry permit.
2. Grosskreutz Has a Prior Gun Offense But Is Not a Felon.
3. Grosskreutz’s Gun had a Bullet in the Chamber; He Is Affiliated With a Protest Group Called the People’s Revolution & Is a Medic

All three would still be alive or uninjured today had they not attacked Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse's rife was legal.

 
At 8:34 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Leave it to Mofart to bring up race, it's all he's got.

 
At 9:39 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Well I guess you should never bring a skate board to a gun fight.

 
At 11:09 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Or a crow bar or a knife and not expect the person you are attacking to defend themselves with what ever they have at hand.

 
At 11:18 PM, Blogger Jerry said...

It was illegal for him to have that gun. He was breaking curfew. He should not have been on the streets. If he ad followed the law he would not have been there and the killings would never have happened. Yet, he claims to be a law abiding citizen?

 
At 12:04 AM, Blogger woodenman said...

I remember when I was 17, the last thing you want to do is give me a high powered rifle! They do not want you to smoke or drink until 21 but you can have a WMD at 17? I can see a 22 in the woods or the range but not in a city.

I have weapons myself but if I killed people under any circumstances I would be worrying about a prison sentence.

 
At 7:27 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Leave it to Sybil to hide behind "reverse racism".

KR had no business carrying that weapon, or being where he was. He deliberately put himself into a dangerous situation and then cried "self defense"? No...

And yes, race enters into this. WHY were people protesting?

And WHAT would have happened had KR been Black and went there with an assault weapon?

We already know WHY Sybil won't answer these or many other questions.

Oh and Woody, it was not a gunfight until KR arrived with one.

 
At 9:32 AM, Blogger woodenman said...

What this kid did is like some guy goes for an aimless drive with a gun in his hand hoping someone cuts him off.

On Conservative sites they defend him to the death, on Liberal sites they want him to get the death penalty!

I think his amazing bad judgement to strap on a rifle to play out some fantasies should have consequences.

How are you doing Mozart.

 
At 9:54 AM, Blogger rustcoal said...

Rottenhouse and his mommie's civil woes, not to mention the city of Kenosha, are about to commence.

 
At 10:39 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

"It was illegal for him to have that gun" Site the law to support that claim.

If there hadn't been rioting in the streets he would not have been there.
If he hadn't been attacked he would not have had to defend himself.
Carrying a loaded pistol to a riot is just asking for trouble.


 
At 10:45 AM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Rittenhouse did not cross state lines with a weapon. This falsehood was refuted by Illinois county officials in October 2020 and by courtroom testimony.

 
At 12:07 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

Guns are not an accessory like a purse, or a hat, or a pair of boots. They are lethal killing machines and, in the hands of an untrained, underage, hormonal juvenile what happened could be predicted as a fait accompli of white nationalist radicalization.

So blame it on rioters or protesters? He wasn't law enforcement of any kind. He went there looking to prove himself in some twisted right of passage and gain the acceptance of the "gang" he wants to join. Well, he got his wish and so did the "gang".

Maybe a civil trial is coming in the near future. The families of the slain need some form of accountability and justice.

 
At 12:46 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Rottenhouse is the new hero for racist white supremacists. (See photos of him flashing "white power" hand signal.)

Rottenhouse is a thug who sucker-punched a girl.

Rottenhouse is a thug who said, "wish I had my AR, I'd start shooting.." at a Black shoplifter.

Rottenhouse values property over human life.

Rottenhouse violated curfew.

Rottenhouse had no business being there.

Rottenhouse provoked and intimidated people with his rifle.

Rottenhouse WANTED to shoot someone.

MAGAt White nationalists have no issues with any of this.

They will cheer him.


 
At 1:19 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Make no mistake- Kyle Rittenhouse wasn’t on trial. Being white was.

 
At 1:21 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...



Gaige Grosskreutz wanted to shoot someone, that's why he bought a loaded pistol to the riot.

 
At 1:22 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Trump and his party are fascist thugs who promote stochastic terrorism.

stochastic terrorism: the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act,which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted

"Stop the steal" was the rallying cry for Trump's violent coup.

Their Leader recently declared, “Slobs and Radical Left maniacs at the View” are the “Communists” Meghan McCain should fight.

And at the radical Turning Point rally:
“Like it or not, we are becoming a communist country. That’s what’s happening...The radical left democrat communist party".

Latest examples:

Gosar: Propagating murder fantasies of killing AOC and Biden

Madison Cawthorn: “Be armed. Be dangerous.”

People are getting killed because of these asshole thugs inciting violence.

 
At 1:26 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Pro-Rittenhouse STICKERS are being put around Nashville, including over the face of anti-lynching crusader Ida B. Wells, a civil rights leader who helped found the NAACP.

Tell me they're not racists.

 
At 1:27 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Jacob Blake accosted his rape victim then pulled a knife on the cops and tried to steal a vehicle with a child inside. He was shot justifiably. The media lied, provoked riots, leading to the Rittenhouse shooting, which they also lied about. They are truly the enemy of the people.

Is anyone else wondering why Gage Grosskreutz doesn’t also have to go on trial for threatening & chasing someone with a weapon? Or does that only apply to non-antifa?

Make no mistake- Kyle Rittenhouse wasn’t on trial. Being white was.

 
At 1:42 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

Did Bernie Sanders incite James Hodgkinson to attempted murder?

Did Rep. Maxine Waters incite protesters to "stay on the street" and "get more confrontational"?

Remember when Maxine Waters incited her supporters to harass Trump administration officials?

20 Liberal Calls For Violence Against Conservatives in Quotes, here's 3.
1) "Michele (Bachmann), slit your wrist. Go ahead... or, do us all a better thing [sic]. Move that knife up about two feet. Start right at the collarbone." -- Montel Williams

2) “F*ck that dude. I’ll smack that f*cker’s comb-over right off his f*cking scalp. Like, for real, if I met Donald Trump, I’d punch him in his f*cking face. And that’s not a joke. Even if he did become president — watch out, Donald Trump, because I will punch you in your f*cking face if I ever meet you. Secret Service had better just f*cking be on it. Don’t let me anywhere within a block.”– Rapper Everlast on Donald Trump

3) “I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow….I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.” — Bill Maher

Here are six videos of Democrats calling for violence or physical confrontations that are still active on Twitter...https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democrats-physically-confont-twitter

 
At 2:04 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Kyle Rittenhouse wasn’t on trial. Being white was.

Racist White nationalism speaks.

 
At 2:06 PM, Blogger Just the Facts! said...

On the same day that the Rittenhouse verdict was declared a victory for white supremacy, a black Florida man was found NOT GUILTY via self-defense in the shooting death of his girlfriend.

This was despite the fact that Andrew Coffee IV was shooting at police officers and was in criminal possession of a firearm.
So much for the liberal media narrative about blacks, cops and racism!

 
At 2:10 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

And you think the anger is political whataboutism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

https://listverse.com/2020/03/01/top-10-horrible-punishments-for-slaves-in-america/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

This is the mentality that still exists today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_as_a_positive_good_in_the_United_States

When do people get to say enough is enough?




 
At 3:24 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

White supremacist JTF ignores the fact deputies shot the girlfriend 10 times during a typical botched drug raid, and charged Coffee for it.

Racists want to punish the Black guy for cops killing his girlfriend.
~~~~

VERO BEACH, Fla. (CBS12) — Jurors found Andrew Coffee IV not guilty on charges of felony murder and attempted murder of a law enforcement officer, on Friday, determining he acted in self-defense when firing at deputies during a SWAT raid in 2017.

When the gunfire ended, Coffee's girlfriend, 21-year-old Alteria Woods, was found dead. She had been caught in the crossfire, shot 10 times by deputies.

The Indian River County Sheriff's Office called the verdict "disappointing" but maintains its deputies acted appropriately during the raid.

Deputies with the Indian River County Sheriff's Office raided Coffee's home around 5am in March, 2017. Their target was his father, Andrew Coffee III, who they suspected of dealing drugs.

Arrest records indicate SWAT deputies say they identified themselves when approaching the home and quickly arrested Andrew Coffee III at the front door.

Defense attorneys argued Andrew Coffee IV was asleep when his father was arrested and did not hear the deputies identify themselves as law enforcement. They say he only woke up when the tactical team smashed through his bedroom window, prompting Coffee to fear for his safety and fire off several shots. Deputies returned fire.

Coffee testified at his trial that he didn't hear the verbal commands from deputies and had no clue what was going on and that's why he began shooting in self-defense.

"He said, 'I'm not saying that they didn’t announce [themselves], I'm saying I didn’t hear it," Coffee's attorney Adam Chrzam told CBS 12 News in an interview. "He believed he was under assault, whatever assault that was."

Coffee was charged with murder in connection with Woods' death, as well as attempted murder of a law enforcement officer.

"Clearly the defense was that he didn’t realize that this was law enforcement," said Ian Goldstein, a West Palm Beach defense attorney who serves as a legal analyst for CBS 12 News. "If that’s what he thought, than he has the right to use self defense."

The jury acquitted him of both charges connected to the shootout, but found him guilty of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon

 

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