POST #600: Random Observations
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| With my niece, Marieke Pennings, August 1, 2015 ` |
Six-hundred postings in nine years, two months and five days: That is a milestone! Here are a series of disassociated thoughts and observations accumulated whilst merrily spreading rose pedals through the lunatic asylum that American politics has become in the early years of the twenty-first century. These really are extraordinary times.
In case you happened to miss last night's latest installment of the Clown Car Show, all I can say with any degree of certainty is that - lacking a molecule of substance - it was at the very least amusing. Not to anyone's surprise, Donald Trump fell flat on his face minutes in when he refused to pledge not to mount a third-party uprising if he is not the nominee. As you might imagine, that didn't go over too well with the assembled throngs. The Donald's flash in the pan will start to wane very soon. It was a laugh riot watching poor old Jeb Bush walking the virtual tightrope between the mindless extremism of "the base" and the "moderation" that he understands is the only way he can be elected or nominated. Surprisingly, Marco Rubio was the only candidate of the ten who didn't appear to be pathetically out of his element - which is damnation by faint praise given the current appalling ideological state of that party. A very amusing evening indeed.
2. Hillary's Coronation
On the Democratic side, things appear to be almost as hopeless and rancid. The only candidate to come down the pike in generations does not have much of a chance of taking the nomination next year - or so it would seem to the pundits at large. But something is happening and they don't know what it is. Bernie Sanders has been packing them in wherever he goes, more so then any other candidate - Republican or Democrat; he's saying things that desperately need to be said, telling people what they desperately need to hear, speaking the unspeakable. And these same people are listening; he's getting through to them, touching them in a way no politician has been able to do since Bobby Kennedy!
But we might as well face the unsettling reality that the big money in the game is on Wall Street stooge, Hillary Clinton In spite of the fact that, barring a major scandal (time will tell whether or not the e-mail controversy has legs) she's more than likely the next Democratic nominee.
I don't care. I'm supporting Bernie. I'm funny that way, you know?
3. What Happened?
This is a question that was posed in the first paragraph in Paul Krugman's column in the New York Times this morning:
4. So long, Jon
Immediately following the GOP spectacle, at 11 PM, Jon Stewart signed off after seventeen years as host of Comedy Central's Daily Show. I guess that going out on top is a good rule of thumb. The Beatles did that and left us eternally wanting more. But, like the Beatles' break-up forty-five years ago, this is going to take some getting used to. If I were him I would have waited until after he 2016 elections to depart; But I'm not him. I'm sure his reasons for leaving are sound. His exit from the scene is a tragedy for every political junkie and lover of satire in the country. Au revoire, Jonny!
Stewart is, without a doubt, the most influential comedian in the last fifty years - more so than Lenny Bruce Richard Pryor and George Carlin even - which is a feat in itself. His was one of the most informative programs on television - and the funniest. Poll after pathetic poll showed that the viewers of the Stuart program were better informed about current events and affairs-of-state than the viewers of Fox. What does that tell you?
And a comedian shall lead them.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
SUGGESTED READING:
Here's a link to the Krugman piece referenced above:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/07/opinion/paul-krugman-from-trump-on-down-the-republicans-cant-be-serious.html?emc=edit_th_20150807&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=36100938
It just doesn't get much better than Mr. Paul. Seriously.
SUGGESTED LISTENING:
Alfie
by Cilla Black
She was born Pricilla White - until a newspaper typo inspired her to change it. Cilla Black was one of the shining lights of the mid-sixties British invasion. She passed away this week at the age of seventy-two. This is a remarkable film of her at EMI's Studio One in 1966, recording "Alfie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDF_taQnoXk
They're starting to fade away.
But we might as well face the unsettling reality that the big money in the game is on Wall Street stooge, Hillary Clinton In spite of the fact that, barring a major scandal (time will tell whether or not the e-mail controversy has legs) she's more than likely the next Democratic nominee.
I don't care. I'm supporting Bernie. I'm funny that way, you know?
3. What Happened?
This is a question that was posed in the first paragraph in Paul Krugman's column in the New York Times this morning:
This was, according to many commentators, going to be the election cycle Republicans got to show off their “deep bench.” The race for the nomination would include experienced governors like Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, fresh thinkers like Rand Paul, and attractive new players like Marco Rubio. Instead, however, Donald Trump leads the field by a wide margin. What happened?
Answer: The Koch Brothers happened. The Tea Party happened. George W. Bush happened. Dick Cheney happened. Clarence Thomas happened. Jerry Falwell happened. Ronald Reagan happened. That's no political party; that's an organized criminal enterprise.
4. So long, JonImmediately following the GOP spectacle, at 11 PM, Jon Stewart signed off after seventeen years as host of Comedy Central's Daily Show. I guess that going out on top is a good rule of thumb. The Beatles did that and left us eternally wanting more. But, like the Beatles' break-up forty-five years ago, this is going to take some getting used to. If I were him I would have waited until after he 2016 elections to depart; But I'm not him. I'm sure his reasons for leaving are sound. His exit from the scene is a tragedy for every political junkie and lover of satire in the country. Au revoire, Jonny!
Stewart is, without a doubt, the most influential comedian in the last fifty years - more so than Lenny Bruce Richard Pryor and George Carlin even - which is a feat in itself. His was one of the most informative programs on television - and the funniest. Poll after pathetic poll showed that the viewers of the Stuart program were better informed about current events and affairs-of-state than the viewers of Fox. What does that tell you?
And a comedian shall lead them.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
SUGGESTED READING:
Here's a link to the Krugman piece referenced above:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/07/opinion/paul-krugman-from-trump-on-down-the-republicans-cant-be-serious.html?emc=edit_th_20150807&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=36100938
It just doesn't get much better than Mr. Paul. Seriously.
Alfie
by Cilla Black
She was born Pricilla White - until a newspaper typo inspired her to change it. Cilla Black was one of the shining lights of the mid-sixties British invasion. She passed away this week at the age of seventy-two. This is a remarkable film of her at EMI's Studio One in 1966, recording "Alfie".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDF_taQnoXk
They're starting to fade away.
posted by Tom Degan @ 3:53 PM
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59 Comments:
I am not sure that Trump saying he won't follow lockstep will hurt him with those who support him. Why should he promise to support whoever the GOP nominates might be? He can afford to run a third party ticket and frankly he will draw from the left as well if it's Hillary for the Dems. If Trump got 34% then it would be probably pretty equal thirds. How would the country see governance happening if anyone won with 1/3 of the vote, I don't know, but it's not doing so great right now and a LOT of people are ready for a third party that was not owing to the ideologues. It might be he'll just pull out if it gets ugly enough, but it's not guaranteed. I wouldn't promise to support anybody on that stage if I was him. But then I am not going to be voting for a rightie given their positions on the issues, which are important to me.
To me, it looked like Fox tried to take Trump out with the pointed questions. I had read before this debate that the oligarchs were pushing their favorite horses to try and attack Trump. Looked to me like Foxies followed that line and I read that the forum after it led by Frank Lutz (who I have always despised when I see him on Maher), laid out how they no longer would support Trump even if they went into it favoring him. That sounds like Fox planning more than what maybe was the response of the right to the debate.
Personally, I think Trump is too thin skinned to be President, and that's a major flaw in someone who wants to be President.
I can't wait to see Bonnie, of the Bonnie and Clyde Clintons fame, debate Bernie "The Bolshevik" Sanders.
Maybe Bonnie will ask Bernie about his derogatory "War On Women" comment where he believes women fantasize about having sex with 3 men at once!
Maybe Bernie can arrange to have Bonnie's erased email server on a podium to help get some extra polling points.
I argue that left wing policies are not creating a culture of dependency.
Obama won, and since that time non-participation in the labor force has swelled to 93 million. Is that an indication of leaning forward progress?
Romneys cold blooded statement about the 47% can't be refuted. We just need to keep calling him a Nazi for speaking the truth.
The Republicans can't win unless they engage in the happy talk that 93 million out of the labor force is not an issue....that the negative impact of those folks not contributing to Social Security and Medicare, which is funded on labor that is taxed, will not hold dire consequences for the solvency of both programs.
We just need more lying about the state of the economy to get the LIFs that Jonathon Gruber spoke of out to vote and pull that lever for our party of free stuff!
Is our 'Trickle Up Poverty' working out? 57% of American Women in this country do not work. Keep that food stamp press going 24/7!
The Boy Troll is busy on this one.
I had a couple of take aways from the debate:
(1) It was clear there was a concerted attack on Trump by Fox. Normally, I wouldn't care as the GOP feeds on itself--frequently. But it does show that whoever gets the nomination isn't necessarily the "leader" of the GOP. Donald is 'refreshing' in that he won't be beholden to the backroom dealings of the GOP. Perhaps he might even expose it.
(2) I wasn't entirely disgusted by Jon Kasich and want to hear more about his views of Republicanism. Sanity isn't a strong suit among the GOP, so it's rare and refreshing when you see it--if even briefly.
(3) It's interesting that Democrats allowed the coronation of Hillary and then seemed to migrate to Sanders. Flavor of the week?
I can only hope that Stewart's "retirement" is from the show only and that we'll hear him more candid and frequently than the Daily Show allowed.
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Obama The King has said congressional opponents of the Iran deal are equal to the Iranian Hardliners who chant "Death To Amerika!"
Will a White House reporter ask at the next presidential press conference whether Chuck Schumer fits into that category?
Lorax, no one "coronated" Hillary, she's just the best choice for the job.
Joe, how is Obama a "king"? He's used fewer EO's than Bush and if the GOP would stop trying to make him a "one term president" and work with him to help the country, he wouldn't have to use the EO at all!
And Chuck Schumer is Jewish and supports the Nutty Yahoo. He does NOT repersent the vast majority of Dems on the issue.
Mozart, it is interesting that you think a thoroughly corrupt person who sold access to foreign nationals and special interests for favorable rulings from the State Department is worthy of anything but a long prison term. If that were Condi Rice having done that, not to mention her misuse of private emails, you would rightfully be calling for her imprisonment. The leftist double standards evidently are in play here though.
Even if Hillary wasn't scandal plagued, can you please point to any accomplishments of merit that she has had as either a senator or secretary of state?
She is a disgrace unworthy of our once great nation, and yet she will still likely be our next president because the entitlement class wants MORE!
What in the hell is wrong with this country when the two leading candidates thus far are Hillary and Trump? God help us please!
Mr Paine,
Mozart guzzles the progressive koolaid, but at least he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job. Only a very mentally sick person could believe such a conspiracy.
Mozart will no doubt pull the lever for Hillary. How he could vote for such an arrogant, greedy, lying, crony capitalist pig with no accomplishments is beyond human understanding.
"He does NOT repersent the vast majority of Dems on the issue. "And you know that Mozart because you have spoke to them all?
"Hillary, she's just the best choice for the job." Better than Uncle Bernie as President?
T Paine clearly listens ONLY to Fox news or Limbaugh, and the Boy Troll still can't decide on a name.
Clearly Mozart (a.k.a. "Cry Baby") has only two ways to response when caught with left foot in mouth.
Deflection and ad hominem.
"Hillary, she's just the best choice for the job." Better than V.P Biden?
I have no foot in my mouth,I'm sorry you were offended by the truth.
I'll vote for Bernie in the priomary and whoever gets the Dem nomination in the general happy?
Wgo is the Boy Troll supporting? Probably whoever Fox news tells him to, since he has no original thoughts of his own.
"Wgo is the Boy Troll supporting? "
I don't know, "wgo" is he supporting?
Ah, Let's ask Mozart (a.k.a "Cry Baby"), he knows what every one is thinking and what they really mean.
So Cry Baby, Hillary is better than Joe Biden or Uncle Bernie? After all you did say
"Hillary, she's just the best choice for the job."
According to a report released Sunday by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the $15 minimum wage has caused Seattle restaurants to lose 1,000 jobs — the worst decline since the 2009 Great Recession.
“The loss of 1,000 restaurant jobs in May following the minimum wage increase in April was the largest one month job decline since a 1,300 drop in January 2009, again during the Great Recession,” AEI Scholar Mark J. Perry noted in the report.
The citywide minimum wage increase was passed in June of last year. The measure is designed to increase the city minimum wage gradually to $15 an hour by 2017. The first increase under the plan was to $11 an hour in April. According to the report, Seattle restaurants have already faced severe consequences as a result. In contrast, in the six years since the 2009 financial crisis, the industry has been recovering in areas without the $15 minimum wage.
The Boy Troll obsesses on a typo, and then askes the same dumbass, irrelevent questions.
WHO are you supporting TROLL?
I'll be voting straight Democrat, no matter who the nominee is, but it's probably going to be either Clinton or Sanders and either is OK with me.
Even Biden would be far and away better than anyone in the GOP clown car, and the Troll knows this because he's afraid to tell us who he supports.
Everyone on the right WHINED about Obama not having any "experience" and yet when someone like H. Clinton comes along, they attack her for being an "insider".
She's got more "experience" at being POTUS than anyone else, having been married to one AND being Sec. of State, and if she takes money from corporations it's because she has to play by the same rules as everyone else. Conservatives made these rules, and then attack anyone who plays by them.
Mozart, please tell me what Hillary has accomplished with all of her years of "experience". As First Lady, she tried to implement the failed and completely flawed "Hillary Care". Back then, enough people saw it for what it was as the socialist takeover of American healthcare and shut it down. Her court subpoenaed Rose Law Firm billing records had “disappeared” until they were found hidden in the White House residence by staff. She had “no idea” how they got there and was given a pass.
As a senator, she did not author any politically substantial or important legislation nor was she pivotal in the senate, let alone being a leader there.
As Secretary of State, she lied to cover her ass as for not providing requested security as four Americans, including our ambassador, were killed in Ben Ghazi in what constitutes an act of war. She then lied again to the families and We The People that it was a video on the internet that only a few hundred people had ever seen that was the cause of this 9/11 terrorist attack. She erased her subpoenaed emails from her illegal private server leading up to the attack and any others of relevance.
For donations to the Clinton Foundation, she gave favorable state department decisions to foreign nationals and corporations in exchange, including ownership of much of the uranium mines in the U.S. to a Russian company. Evidently you are okay with this and think this is just politics as usual.
She is thoroughly corrupt and despicable in every sense of the word. The only thing she has experience in is all of the seedy sides of politics and knowing where to hide the bodies. She belongs in Leavenworth; NOT in the White House. Anyone that would vote for her, either is ignorant of her actions, or evidently doesn’t care about her illegalities and is fine with her sitting in the oval office despite her egregious transgressions against the constitution and We The People. That is truly sad. I weep for our nation.
"I'll be voting straight Democrat, no matter who the nominee is"
Another opened minded liberal, yuck yuck yuck.
Bernie has a grasp of what has happened to democracy. The people like what they hear.
The powerful do not. If somehow elected, Bernie will likely learn the Lesson of the Lone Gunman.
TP is right. Hillary is as sleazy as those others who "lost" emails. The Bush Administration email scandal is completely ignored now, as a court has now said they cannot be disclosed through the FOIA.
Russia has uranium mines in the US and Canada. China owns much of our debt, real estate and more.
As of 2006, 80 percent of US port terminals are operated by foreign entities, primarily shipping lines.
Global capitalism/corporatism at work for you.
Regulate capitalism/corporatism, or it will regulate you.
This lesson will never be learned, or taught, for that matter. Mass corporate media IS corporate capitalism. Media's advertisers are corporate capitalists.
So what can we expect from corporatist politicians?
I remember my 6th grade teacher ( in 1968 ) explaining to our class what life was like in the U.S.S.R. I never imagined life in Amerika in 2015 would be even worse than what she described. They had it good compared to what we are experiencing today. So Dave, yeah the lesson will never be learned or taught. The way I see it, if the oligarchs thought we could do something about the mess we are in they wouldn't even let us talk about it. Oh wait, that's where we are headed isn't it ??
Yes Boy Troll, I AM "open minded" in many areas, but when it comes to the White House we cannot survive another GOP President. Look what the last one did, and with a rubber stamp congress they will kill the country for ever. Look what congress wants NOW and what the GOP candidates are saying they want.
No thank you.
Bernie in the primary, whoever the Dem nominee is in the general.
T. Paine. "Hillarycare" is "Obamacare" and it is highly successful.
Benghazi has been debunked by no less than FOUR REPUBLICAN COMITTEES. It's done. You can stop WHINING about it now, especially since congress refused Sec. Clintons request for more security. It has also been found that the video was in part, the reson for the attack. BTW, MANY embassies were attacked under BUsh and many MORE people died. Where's your outrage?
Your accusatiins against the Clinton foundatin were also debunked by REPUBLICAN committees.
All you are doing is making baseless accusations, because Fox news keeps repeating them.
"Russia has uranium mines in the US and Canada. China owns much of our debt, real estate and more."
Who was President when most of this happened?
Who controlled Congress when most of this happened?
Life in the USA now is worse than it was in the old USSR?
Really?
Examples please.
My, Mr. Anonymous certainly is a demanding sort, isn't he? I bet he would never answer a question posed by someone hiding behind Anonymous.
But, I'm such a nice guy, I'll do it just for him.
Who was President when most of this happened?
Who controlled Congress when most of this happened?
Democrats and Republicans.
There, I hope this helps.
And you're welcome, Mr. Anonymous.
T. Paine: "...it is interesting that you think a thoroughly corrupt person who sold access to foreign nationals and special interests..."
Oh, you mean the justices who put the final nail in the coffin of democracy with their treasonous Citizens United ruling?
Vanessa: "...but at least he does not believe 9/11 was an inside job. Only a very mentally sick person could believe such a conspiracy."
Correction: Only mentally sick people would conspire to commit such an atrocious act, and only those who believe in fairy tales and have a poor understanding of basic physics would be gullible enough to believe the official explanation.
You tell her JG !! Anonymous wants examples ?? Okay, for starters, our civil liberties such as freedom from warrant-less searches has certainly been taken from us. That was one of the big differences my good old Republican Nixon supporter 6th grade teacher explained to us. See in the Soviet Union you could be stopped and searched by the authorities without any probable cause or reasonable suspicion. But in Amerika she said, we have the Fourth Amendment to protect us from such unreasonable intrusions into our lives. Related is our loss of our freedom to travel unimpeded within our borders without encountering police roadblocks and checkpoints. Once upon a time a motorist could not be stopped and searched without probable cause. Now such warrant-less searches are conducted regularly. Another difference she explained was that in the U.S.S.R. citizens were spied on by the government and had no expectation of privacy in their communications whether written, verbal or otherwise. But in good old Amerika such invasions of privacy do not occur. Oh, I see said the blind man...Another example is the intrusion into womens' reproductive rights. See in the U.S.S.R. women did not enjoy such degree of control over their own bodies. But of course in Amerika such rights could never be taken away. I think those are enough examples to start with. There are many others. So many of my generation fought and died in Viet Nam to supposedly save us from the very tyranny we are now experiencing at the hands of our establishment. The war protesters knew this was a bullshit war and time has proven that to be so true. In Amerika hypocrisy is rampant and no one seems to notice except some progressives. BTW...my 6th grade teacher did not like me. She knew I was anti-establishment by the clothing I wore and my love beads...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Soviet_Union
The Soviet Union was a single-party state where the Communist Party officially ruled the country.[1] All key positions in the institutions of the state were occupied by members of the Party. The state proclaimed its adherence to Marxism-Leninism ideology that restricts rights of citizens to private property. The entire population was mobilized in support of the state ideology and policies. Independent political activities were not tolerated, including the involvement of people with free labour unions, private corporations, non-sanctioned churches or opposition political parties. The regime maintained itself in political power in part by means of the secret police, propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, personality cult, restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, political purges and persecution of specific groups of people.
Freedom of political expression
Soviet political repression was a de facto and de jure system of persecution and prosecution of people who were or perceived to be enemies of the Soviet system.[citation needed] Its theoretical basis was the theory of Marxism concerning class struggle. The terms "repression", "terror", and other strong words were official working terms, since the dictatorship of the proletariat was supposed to suppress the resistance of other social classes, which Marxism considered antagonistic to the class of the proletariat. The legal basis of the repression was formalized into Article 58 in the code of the RSFSR and similar articles for other Soviet republics. Aggravation of class struggle under socialism was proclaimed during the Stalinist terror.
Right to vote
According to communist ideologists, the Soviet political system was a true democracy, where workers' councils ("soviets") represented the will of the working class. In particular, the Soviet Constitution of 1936 guaranteed direct universal suffrage with the secret ballot.[13] Practice, however, departed from principle. For example, all candidates had been selected by Communist Party organizations before the June 1987 elections,
Historian Robert Conquest described the Soviet electoral system as "a set of phantom institutions and arrangements which put a human face on the hideous realities: a model constitution adopted in a worst period of terror and guaranteeing human rights, elections in which there was only one candidate, and in which 99 percent voted; a parliament at which no hand was ever raised in opposition or abstention.
Freedom of movement
Emigration and any travel abroad were not allowed without an explicit permission from the government. People who were not allowed to leave the country and campaigned for their right to leave in the 1970s were known as "refuseniks". According to the Soviet Criminal Code, a refusal to return from abroad was treason, punishable by imprisonment for a term of 10–15 years, or death with confiscation of property.
Ellis D, good pot must be legal in your state. Either you were high as a kite when you posted or your mind is just as warped as that looney "Jefferson's Guardian" and his 9/11 conspiracy theory.
Jefferson, have you ever been abducted by an alien spaceship?
"Anonymous" Joe's been hitting the bottle already this morning. The Colony Diner must serve a stiff one.
He can copy and paste, but failed to counter a single point Ellis made.
The hilarious part it Anonymous (Urp, hick) Joe thinks he's the rational one.
Joe, you are the one who is high. Political dissent is frowned upon in 2015 Amerika and soon dissenters will be labelled " terrorists " for their unpatriotic behavior. The right to vote in Amerika has become meaningless in our two party oligarchy. The right to leave our borders and return is also of little value when the rest of the world despises Amerikans and safety abroad is an issue. Folks who don't believe in a 9/11 conspiracy are very naive. The ruthless oligarchs in control of Amerika could care less about the lives lost on 9/11. So long as they had an excuse to subvert civil rights and continue imperialistic wars that was all that mattered to them.
That's right Ellis, Political dissent is frowned upon in 2015 Amerika.
If you criticize Obama, you are a racist.
If you criticize Hillary, you are anti-women.
If you question the theory that man is the cause of climate change, you are anti science.
Destroying evidence while under investigation will land you in prison,
or
you can become the nominee for the democratic party.
Tom, I have to disagree with you on one point. As much as a LOVE Jon Stewart, he could not have done what he did without Carlin or Pryor, and they could not have done what THEY did without Bruce. Saying Stewart is more influaential is just wrong.
As for the Boy Troll, When your precious GOP starts including Powell and Rice in their "e-mailgate" investigatin, we can talk. Until then it's just a partisan witch hunt because they know they can't beat Clinton in a fair fight.
If you critisize Bush you are "anti American"
You are either "for us or against us"
"It's never illegal when the President does it" --- Richard Nixon
Anonymous is such a crybaby. And stupid too. No memory to speak of.
Back in the "freedom era" of the Bush Administration:
"Free Speech Zones" were fenced off for protest. Loyalty oaths were required to hear speeches. Phi Donahue's successful show was censored for questioning the Bush war of aggression. Those calling out the Bush lies were called traitors. Journalists were arrested at the GOP convention in 2008.
Boo, hoo, poor widdow misogynist racists. Now their feelings are hurt.
They can dish it out, but like bullies and crybabies, can't take it.
Ellis wins his case by presenting facts, as opposed to the stupidity and default from the crybaby troll.
Oh, if you disagree with science and present no evidence to support your disagreement, you are by definition, anti-science. And probably pro-pollution. They really don't ever object to anything dumped into our atmosphere.
Them's good "capitalism chemicals".
Destroying evidence while under investigation will land you in prison,
or
you can become the nominee for the democratic party.
Joe: "Jefferson, have you ever been abducted by an alien spaceship?"
Yes, an alien "spaceship" called Earth. ;-)
"Loyalty oaths were required to hear speeches."
Example please to support this claim.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/on_the_trail/2004/10/one_nation_under_bush.html
One Nation Under Bush
At a campaign rally, Republicans recite the "Bush Pledge."
"I want you to stand, raise your right hands," and recite "the Bush Pledge," said Florida state Sen. Ken Pruitt. The assembled mass of about 2,000 in this Treasure Coast town about an hour north of West Palm Beach dutifully rose, arms aloft, and repeated after Pruitt: "I care about freedom and liberty. I care about my family. I care about my country. Because I care, I promise to work hard to re-elect, re-elect George W. Bush as president of the United States."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31019-2004Jul31.html
The Albuquerque Journal reported on Friday that people seeking tickets to the Cheney event who could not be identified as GOP partisans -- contributors or volunteers -- were told they could not receive tickets unless they signed an endorsement form saying "I, (full name) . . . do herby (sic) endorse George W. Bush for reelection of the United States." The form warns that signers "are consenting to use and release of your name by Bush-Cheney as an endorser of President Bush."
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There are those who criticize Obama and Hillary here. I have done so.
If you criticize Obama, you are a racist.
If you criticize Hillary, you are anti-women.
This is a lie.
Please provide examples supporting these claims. If not, then we can only regard you as a rude, dishonest, and demanding Republican troll who deserves no further response or civil dialogue.
Thank you.
Dave, with all due respect, I personally have been called a racist for disagreeing with Obama's policies. In fact, I think it may have also occurred on your blog years ago too.
"blame the black guy" used in response to criticizing Obama.
With all due respect, do you remember that line Dumbya?
Or "the only reason conservatives are upset with Obama is because he is black." I believe Mozart has made that claim several times. Maybe some quotes from The Rev Sharpton would be useful to nudge your memory?
War on women claim made in response to being opposed to Obamacare or being pro-life.
Let me get this straight, at a campaign rally for GW Bush it was expected that those in attendance would be supporters of Bush? Why, gasp, the outrage is unspeakable. Almost as bad as H. Clinton using a fence to prevent the press from asking her questions. Or allowing only select question to be asked of her by the "common people".
Do you think Uncle Bernie is going to request more security to prevent a repeat of what happened in Oakland this weekend?
Tell me about the debate's the DNC is going to hold for their presidential candidate(s)? How many people will watch them, if they are held?
Who is being rude?
TP,
I don't recall the case you mention. Do you remember what you said, and how the accusation was worded?
As you know I've never been shy about criticizing Obama, even before he was elected president.
It's lame whenever someone resorts to unfounded accusations. Liberals know all about it when we we dared call out Bush's and Cheney's lies and warmongering.
A lot of hate, scapegoating and blame has been coming our way from Right Wing media for decades now. Liberals are tired of being lectured about how we "hate and envy the rich" because we oppose their sense of entitlement to dictate public policy that serves their private interests.
Who was it that recently said, "Not all, but far too many on the left want to tear down America", old buddy? ;-)
Sounds like an accusation tantamount to treason.
"blame the black guy" used in response to criticizing Obama.
With all due respect, do you remember that line Dumbya?
Oh, yes. And what part of this wasn't true? This was from the person who steals names and links them to commie sites? Yeah. We remember.
This sounds like it's coming from the troll so obsessed with racial hate, he couldn't stop repeating posting about blacks committing murder, and police should treat all black man differently from white men. How convenient when all a cop needs to justify killing unarmed blacks is "I was in fear for my life". Yes, and only black men seem to be the source of that fear.
And of course, he saw nothing racist in this double standard by police. Racists always deny racism, no matter what racist crap they spew. And according to them, only liberals are the real racists.
We see a lot of this "not racist" crap from racists like the troll.
John Stewart? Who's he? What's his ratings?
Account Suspended of the Hatemonger Degan let's hope.
"A cancer has cancer. Oops, I mean, Jimmy Carter has cancer. Same diff." – "Compassionate Conservative" columnist Debbie Schlussel
Why can't liberals be so compassionate? They must be too busy "hating and envying the rich", while they help Carter with Habitat for Humanity and ridding the world of parasitic diseases. You know, cancers to the far Right.
Far Right wing ideology is a sickness that shrinks the heart and rots the soul.
Far Left Wing Ideology is a sickness that shrins the heart and rots the soul.
Hence, a grade A hate speech expert Tom Degan may have had his account suspended.
Here's comes the judge, Dave Dubya is another grade A buttle bully with spittle coming out, is for the selling of baby body parts and the idiot claims others are cold hearted?
"treason" You got balls using that word when you will not criticize Obama for not defending our country against the invasion coming across our southern border, in direct violation of his oath of office. For not upholding the all laws of this nation as he swore to do in his oath of office.
All you can do is blame GWB or the GOP or call conservatives racists or fascists, that's all you got Dumbya. Name calling. Deflection. Or grade school debate skills, like I'm not going to answer your question until you answer mine, what a 4th grader.
Exhibit C supporting Far Right wing ideology is a sickness that shrinks the heart and rots the soul.
"Enough said, you are guilty, prove your not."
Thank you for your hate and twisted fascistic sense of justice. How Right, how far Right.
I bet there's a lot more far Right hate where that came from.
Dubya the Body Part Seller, that says all about the cold hearted left. Ha Ha, Hillary is going down.
Boy troll, there are fewer people "invading" from mexico NOW than ever before, in fact we have gone beyond "net zero" which means more are leaving or being deported than are coming in. And yes, I WILL use TREASON when a President sells arms to an enemy nation (Reagan) or a group of congressmen tell an enemy nation not to pay attention to the President who's trying to broker a PEACEFUL treaty. (especially when said congressmen are in the pocket of the defense industry)
Boehner has said that people who disagree with the president of Israel must HATE Israel, while HE opposes the President of the United States.
What was he trying to tell us?
Your posts are becoming more psychotic by the day. Off your meds?
Obama the Idiot has helped out terrorists, helps illegals into this country who kill Americans, Mozart is another one of the psychos long helping Tom Doodoohead and crying about Hillary being exposed.
Dubya, while I thought Carter was a horrible president, who has only been surpassed in his incompetency by Obama, I certainly don't wish cancer upon him. Indeed I will pray for him and his family.
Mozart, lets examine the underlying facts of Ben Ghazi. It appears that Hillary and Obama were illegally providing weapons to Syrian rebels (now ISIS) out of Libya, hence the real reason for the attack on our consulate and the killing of our ambassador. They then covered it up by blaming a video and deleting emails. THEY are treasonous, and yet you will vote for Hillary in the end.
Party over country, right?
I cry for our nation.
TP,
You are a true believer to denounce Carter and Obama while excusing the Administration that allowed 9-11, started two wars they couldn't finish and left our nation in economic collapse.
Your generosity is unbelievably lop-sided. I'd say you can't see the forest for the trees.
However you believe what and whom you choose to believe. Your opinions are based on your beliefs. If I believed what and whom you believe, I'd have the same opinions.
Party over country, indeed.
Dave, for the record, the war in Afghanistan was started by al Qaida and their Taliban supporters. Bush told the Taliban to hand over the al Qaida leadership after 9/11, or we would come get them. They didn't hand them over. We came and got them. Do you propose that we should not have done so?
As for Iraq, I can appreciate a principled stand on not wanting to go to war there. I understand the reasons for going and not for going, despite your litany of talking points on the latter. The fact of the matter is that Bush was enforcing a U.N. resolution against Saddam with full congressional support and authorization. That is something Obama would know nothing about, my friend.
TP,
We know your beliefs supporting the aggression in Iraq align perfectly with the words of the Bush Administration. You generously believe their "mistake assumption" excuse.
Compare that to your opinion of Obama's "mistaken assumptions". See what I mean? The deaths of hundreds of thousands are swept away as if by a cult of death worshipers. Sorry, you brought up that term for your next target for war of aggression. Dehumanizing and demonizing are specialties of the far Right.
As a direct consequence of this military aggression the ranks of terrorists grew exponentially, just as predicted by the sane, but disregarded, voices of reason.
It was not a UN action. It was a war Cheney wanted before 9-11. Honest to God. Bush alone ordered the invasion.
"We came and got them"? The perpetrators of the act were killed in the process. We got 'em alright. It was Obama who ordered the killing of bin-Laden.
Bush failed his mission while killing thousands innocents. He terrorized an already brutalized country. You probably choose not to remember the Tora Bora escape due to poor mission management.
Rummy, Dick and Dubya were too horny for war with Iraq to care for the mission.
Don’t take my word for it.
"I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him". Bush, March 13, 2002
Then he started telling lies about Saddam being in cahoots with al-Qaeda, "training them in deadly gasses" and having active "nukular" and wmd programs.
Believe it or not.
You choose to believe this as you denounce Obama for what? For doing what he could to reverse the Great Recession Bush left us? Or is it for expanding health insurance? For withdrawing troops that Bush agreed to after Iraqis demanded it?
Why are these not forgivable “mistaken assumptions”? Is it only because he is a Democrat? That must be it, since you are not racist. You are partisan. Own it.
What were Carter’s unforgivable "mistaken assumptions"? It’s interesting that you choose to agree with the trolls target of hate while ignoring his cruel hatred. How can you not denounce him as a fellow conservative? Is this hate acceptable to all conservatives? Why not pray for the troll to see his evil, soulless hate for what it is? Or is being “conservative” so much a virtue unto itself it excuses all behavior for the “noble cause”?
Your tolerances also seem a bit lop-sided
Can you enlighten us to what Carter did that compares to ignoring a threat like 9-11, starting two unfinished wars, and leaving us a Great Recession? What did he do to deserve all the hate? What beliefs can support this?
Or if you can, what facts, not emotion based opinion, support the hate for Carter as a “cancer”? What evil did he commit to draw out such evil from the far Right?
Does anyone remember the Taliban saying they would turn over bin-Laden if the US provided evidence of his guilt?
We didn't provide evidence, as required for legal extradition.
We wanted war and revenge...ultimatley in Iraq, of all places
Socialism is not what's going to save the American economy.
But as long as you get yours Tom, fuck everyone else.
Dave Dubya: "Does anyone remember the Taliban saying they would turn over bin-Laden if the US provided evidence of his guilt? [The United States] didn't provide evidence, as required for legal extradition."
Because...there wasn't any. None at all. Another patsy...
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