Friday, January 22, 2021

The Hill We Climb by Amanda Gorman

The United States of America has its first poet laureate. In the nearly fifteen years that I have been writing this blog, I have only twice turned it over to other writers. I need to do it again. Amanda Gorman's performance at the inauguration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on Wednesday completely sent me into the clouds, Keep your eyes on this young lady; she's here to stay!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY


When day comes we ask ourselves,

where can we find light in this never-ending shade?

The loss we carry,

a sea we must wade.

We've braved the belly of the beast,

We've learned that quiet isn't always peace,

and the norms and notions

of what just is

isn't always just-ice.

And yet the dawn is ours

before we knew it.

Somehow we do it.

Somehow we've weathered and witnessed

a nation that isn't broken,

but simply unfinished.

We the successors of a country and a time

where a skinny Black girl

descended from slaves and raised by a single mother

can dream of becoming president

only to find herself reciting for one.

And yes we are far from polished.

Far from pristine.

But that doesn't mean we are

striving to form a union that is perfect.

We are striving to forge a union with purpose,

to compose a country committed to all cultures, colors, characters and

conditions of man.

And so we lift our gazes not to what stands between us,

but what stands before us.

We close the divide because we know, to put our future first,

we must first put our differences aside.

We lay down our arms

so we can reach out our arms

to one another.

We seek harm to none and harmony for all.

Let the globe, if nothing else, say this is true,

that even as we grieved, we grew,

that even as we hurt, we hoped,

that even as we tired, we tried,

that we'll forever be tied together, victorious.

Not because we will never again know defeat,

but because we will never again sow division.

Scripture tells us to envision

that everyone shall sit under their own vine and fig tree

and no one shall make them afraid.

If we're to live up to our own time,

then victory won't lie in the blade.

But in all the bridges we've made,

that is the promise to glade,

the hill we climb.

If only we dare.

It's because being American is more than a pride we inherit,

it's the past we step into

and how we repair it.

We've seen a force that would shatter our nation

rather than share it.

Would destroy our country if it meant delaying democracy.

And this effort very nearly succeeded.

But while democracy can be periodically delayed,

it can never be permanently defeated.

In this truth,

in this faith we trust.

For while we have our eyes on the future,

history has its eyes on us.

This is the era of just redemption

we feared at its inception.

We did not feel prepared to be the heirs

of such a terrifying hour

but within it we found the power

to author a new chapter.

To offer hope and laughter to ourselves.

So while once we asked,

how could we possibly prevail over catastrophe?

Now we assert,

How could catastrophe possibly prevail over us?

We will not march back to what was,

but move to what shall be.

A country that is bruised but whole,

benevolent but bold,

fierce and free.

We will not be turned around

or interrupted by intimidation,

because we know our inaction and inertia

will be the inheritance of the next generation.

Our blunders become their burdens.

But one thing is certain,

If we merge mercy with might,

and might with right,

then love becomes our legacy,

and change our children's birthright.

So let us leave behind a country

better than the one we were left with.

Every breath from my bronze-pounded chest,

we will raise this wounded world into a wondrous one.

We will rise from the gold-limbed hills of the west.

We will rise from the windswept northeast,

where our forefathers first realized revolution.

We will rise from the lake-rimmed cities of the midwestern states.

We will rise from the sunbaked south.

We will rebuild, reconcile and recover.

And every known nook of our nation and

every corner called our country,

our people diverse and beautiful will emerge,

battered and beautiful.

When day comes we step out of the shade,

aflame and unafraid,

the new dawn blooms as we free it.

For there is always light,

if only we're brave enough to see it.


At 6:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hope you wearing your Biden* mandated mask up there in the clouds Tom.

At 6:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are already hundreds of National Guard troops who have reportedly tested positive for the novel coronavirus who have been forced to quarantine since serving to secure the inauguration of President Joe Biden* in Washington, D.C., which took place on Wednesday.

Three Guard sources told POLITICO that hundreds of Guard members have already tested positive for Covid-19 or are quarantining in nearby hotels.

The report noted that troops and lawmakers are concerned the MANDATED duty for Biden* has become a “superspreader event.”

Maybe this is why Biden* removed the flags of our armed services from the Oval Office.

At 8:22 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Only a goddamned terrorist sympathizer and traitor would say Biden has anything to do with the Guard being in DC. He didn't put them there and Trump's Traitors are the only reason they were called there.

Remember 1/6/21, the day of Trump's American Infamy.

At 9:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop whining Dave. You big baby.

At 9:20 PM, Blogger Joanne Noragon said...

Isn't she magnificent.

At 9:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why does Jeff Bezos all of a sudden want to help with vaccine distribution, but he didn’t during the Trump Administration?

Dave, what do your handlers say is the reason? Couldn't be the scripted whiny narrative you follow.

At 9:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure they will quarantine for two weeks according to Biden* directive before entering our country. LMAO

EXCLUSIVE – On Joe Biden’s* first day in office, the Department of Homeland Security issued a sweeping directive calling for a 100-day pause in deportations.

“Tucker Carlson Tonight” has since obtained an internal email sent Thursday to ICE officers in Texas that shows how the order was enacted.

“As of midnight tonight, stop all removals,” the email reads. “This includes Mexican bus runs, charter flights and commercial removals (until further notice) … all cases are to be considered [no significant likelihood of removal in foreseeable future].”

The email goes on to say: “Release them all, immediately. No sponsor available is not acceptable any longer.”

Thanks to Biden* we have a new source of "super spreader".

At 10:51 PM, Blogger The New York Crank said...

I have two wishes:

1. That President Biden would retain Amanda Gorman for his speech writing staff. He has the strategy we need, but she has the poetry we crave. Leadership takes both.

2. That Tom Degan would moderate that noxious troll Anonymous and consign him permanently to the electronic trash bin, where he belongs.

Yours very crankily,
The New York Crank

At 11:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

President Biden*’s first approval ratings are in, and they are lower than the initial approval ratings of each of the previous two presidents.

According to Rasmussen, “48% of likely U.S. voters approve of President Biden*’s job performance. Forty-five percent (45%) disapprove.”

For comparison, 56 percent of likely voters approved of Donald Trump’s job on Jan. 20, 2017, while 44 percent disapproved.

At 5:06 AM, Blogger KanaW said...

Now I remember, Tom, why I quit reading the comments on your blog a few years ago.
I still read the posts, though!

At 8:10 AM, Blogger Pappyz said...

Rasmussen ? LOL.

At 8:31 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

If we use democracy and take a vote, can we get JTF/Anonymous/Clucky banned?

Cue the whining whelp, and his cries of "censorship"

At 10:06 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

It is Tom's prerogative to include the lies and hate from a treasonous terrorist supporter who cannot acknowledge Trump's bloody insurrection on 1-6-21.

We all know what he is. "But, Hunter's laptop!"

It is our prerogative to ignore the treasonous terrorist supporter.

At 10:20 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...


I just wanted him to whine and cry "censorship" as if this wasn't a private blog.

That and the fact that I cannot stand anyone supporting and defending TREASON against the USA. People DIED and he defends it.

The other irrelevant crapola he posts is great entertainment because it illustrates how sad and desperate he really is.

At 11:15 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I'll agree that a crybaby terrorist sympathizer can be entertaining, but his hate and lies are dangerous. He truly is an enemy of democracy, equality, truth and decency.

As we know, Vern is an uneducated and very white nationalist man.

At 12:58 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Yes he is, but you left out DESPERATE to find ANYTHING to support his treasonous support of the worst person ever to occupy the Oval office.

He disgusts me.

At 3:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just Like the Good Old Days: Joe Biden Invades Syria with Convoy of US Troops and Choppers on First Full Day as President.

Within 24 hours of his swearing-in ceremony, Joe Biden invaded Syria with a convoy of US troops and choppers carrying 200 more soldiers.

A large convoy of U.S. military personnel headed into Syria on Thursday along with hundreds of troops some 24 hours after President Joe Biden took office and took on his commander-in-chief role, foreign media reported.

In Text Messages, Biden Voters Already Regret Their Vote
Here are the texts from the Biden voters:

“Wtf is happening?”

“Like ruin the economy on purpose”

“What the f*ck”

I guess Biden* forgot to look for the Union label. LMAO

Oh I forgot, this is the place where TRUMP lives in the empty headed liberals. Where facts and truth are thought of as "irrelevant crapola". Where no one will acknowledge the riots, arson, looting and murders committed by ANTIFA and BLM because they are dishonest cowards.
This is the place where the Washington Post time line that PROVES the riots of 1/6/2021 had already started BEFORE President Trump started to speak is IGNORED. (Which I provided in an earlier post, which was not even commented on, much less disputed. Hey, it's all about the narrative.)

Maybe after 4 years of no wars and peace the first Biden* war get their attention. But sadly such is the strength of their cult I doubt it will. They will instead continue to whine and blame Trump. It's all they got.

At 3:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Insurrection! BLM & Antifa Raided The City Hall Of Bellingham WA Forcing The Mayor To Be Evacuated From The Building…

No FBI investigation? No machine guns?
Irrelevant crapola because Trump's can't be blamed.

At 5:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Feminists from the Women’s Liberation Front (WoLF) are condemning President Joe Biden’s* executive order that removes any legal recognition of the two sexes and eliminates crucial protections for women in the federal government and beyond.

#BidenErasedWomen – but we have 100 DAYS to still make our voices heard before the new regulations go into effect at federal agencies. Sign and share this letter to @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris asking them to protect LGB rights as well as women's!

— WoLF (@WomensLibFront) January 21, 2021

Blame Trump or ignore.

At 5:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waiting for comment from "devote" Catholic Biden*.

During Mass, which was celebrated by local Bishop Robert J. Brennan, eight activists rushed into the Cathedral and then paraded around the pews before reaching the altar, displaying posters with messages that read: “Fund abortion, not cops,” and, “Abortion on demand, end Hyde now.”

The Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of federal funds to pay for abortion, with the exception of certain cases like incest or rape. Pro-abortion President Joe Biden had long supported the Hyde Amendment, but in 2019 changed his position to appease radical pro-abortion voters.

The mostly female group inside St. Joseph Cathedral chanted, “Two, four, six, eight, this Church teaches hate,” as they marched around the church before scuffling with police and security, who were trying to escort the protestors out.

Some of the approximately 200 Mass-goers were visibly shaken and disturbed by the actions of the protesters. A number of children were in attendance and some were seen crying. Hundreds of Catholic school students throughout the diocese were watching a livestream of the Mass when the protesters interrupted Bishop Brennan’s homily.

At 5:39 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Biden is doing some good things domestically but is following in Obama's and Trump's footsteps in his foreign policies. I guess the MIC always gets what it wants.

Millions of people have been suffering all over the world because of the sadistic wars and sanctions for the last 20 years and it will not change until the U.S. is unable to continue them. Personally I would like to see Russia kick the U.S. out of Syria, stealing Syria's oil is indefensible.

Chuck you are a total coward, you would never bring up or acknowledge Trump was the first to put U.S. troops in Syria and steal their oil.

At 6:02 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Vern's a liar. It's second nature to him and Trump.

He wants us to think nobody from Trump's "March to Save America" breached the Capitol.

He wants to deflect from the fact the terrorist attack was pre-meditated by Trump's Traitors consisting of rogue military, rogue cops and white supremacists. (Vern's kind of people) They knew the angry mob would follow them. And they did.

DC Timeline:
Giuliani urges "Trial by combat" before Trump speaks.
1. Trump begins speech at 12:00 Noon. Finishes around 1:10, releasing the majority of the mob to "stop the steal, fight like hell, and take our country back".
2. 12:30 Crowds from the pro-Trump rally gather outside the U.S. Capitol building.
(Everyone knew the "Save America March" was a march on the Capitol.)
3. 1:05: First group presses gates and barriers.
"Protesters are charging toward the Captiol steps. Some tried to scale the construction structures and have been tackled by police. They want to enter the building and are making attempts at intervals. Capitol police trying to hold them back."
( )
4. !:30 The crowd outside the building grows larger, eventually overtaking Capitol Police and making their way up the steps.
5, Around 2:15 The pro-Trump mob breaches the Capitol, breaking windows and climbing inside the building, then opening doors for others to follow.

Hey, it's all about the narrative.


1. Not an insurrection.
2. Not a raid. Nobody was armed. No interior damage.
3. No BLM identified.
4. No antifa identified.

The facts:

"Some of the protesters opened the doors to City Hall and roughly 20 people went into the main lobby, Bellingham Police Lt. Claudia Murphy told The Bellingham Herald. No damage was done to the interior of City Hall and no one was hurt, Murphy said. It’s unclear if the protesters were affiliated with (Homeless) Camp 210 or not.

Several Bellingham police officers responded to the scene and asked the people inside City Hall to leave, which they did, Murphy said."

At 6:08 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Vern also wants us to ignore these facts:

Trump watched the insurrection on TV for hours, doing nothing to stop it.

Later Trump told the mob “We love you. You're very special.”

Like Vern, Trump loves his terrorist nut-jobs.

At 6:13 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

If I was named Vern I would hate everybody and everything like he does.

At 6:20 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Know-what-ah-mean, Vern?" Rings a bell. Does Vern have a buddy named Earnest P. Worrell?

Vern's lie that rioters are democrats has been exposed.

Portland, Oregon (CNN)Rioters again took to the streets of Portland, Oregon, on Thursday -- the first full day of Joe Biden's presidency -- to let the Democratic establishment know they are still fighting for racial justice, some told CNN.

"We wanted to symbolize that both parties are the oppressor," said a 25-year-old who wished not to be identified, fearing government reprisal. "We've all experienced firsthand that police violence is police violence regardless (of which political party holds power). ... It doesn't make a difference to the person being beaten."

At 8:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of a public apology or real leadership from Joe Biden, his wife came out with cookies. Where’s the accountability? Joe Biden repeatedly claimed during the campaign that “character matters,” yet he sent his wife to do a photo op when he should have made a public apology for how his administration exploited and then mistreated thousands of National Guardsman.

At 8:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"stealing Syria's oil is indefensible"
Really Woodenman, since America is energy independent (under TRUMP) how do you get off making this BS claim? Did you see it on CNN? LMAO. What port is this stolen oil coming through, what refinery is this stolen oil going to? Surely with all your inside info you can answer these simple questions.

Woodenman, strange name for a guy needs viagra.

At 8:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biden* Admin To Pipeline Workers: You Can Find Another Job…

Just learn to code, right?

At 8:32 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Chuxk, you are really embarrassing yourself now, it is common knowledge that Trump has been stealing 30 million of oil a month from Syria's oilfields for two years now. There are You Tube videos and a hundred articles on many political sites about the subject.

Trump has always been a serial thief, stealing the pay of carpenters and tradesmen for decades, don't tell me you do not know of that also!!

Woodenman was my nickname when I was a porn star long ago, I can send some links if you like.

At 8:56 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

I hope Biden does not continue this sin.

At 9:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

common knowledge that Trump has been stealing 30 million of oil a month from Syria's oilfields for two years now

Then why didn't the demorats impeach him for that?

Dave still supports ANTIFA.

At 9:15 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Democrats were in favor of it. At one point trump said he was going to pull out of Syria and 50 Dems wrote him a letter and said pulling out of Syria would harm our national security!

At 6:14 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Pulling out immediately with Putin in the wings, yes. Gop starts shit and Dems are expected to just immediately end things, as if that were possible.

At 9:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Woodenman, tell us more about that "stolen Syrian oil". How many troops did Trump leave in Syria when he left the Whitehouse? How did Trump steal all that oil? Waiting for more on this breaking news.

History shows that the "shit" in Syria started under OBAMA during the Arab Spring. Obama, for those with a very short selective memory, is a democrat. And the GOP is expected to immediately end this?

Welcome to President Joe Biden’s America, where rioting has taken over the cities of Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, and thousands of Americans have died from COVID this week under his watch.

On Wednesday, the day of Biden’s inauguration, leftist rioters attacked the headquarters of Portland’s Democratic Party. Likewise, in Seattle, similar rioting went on for hours.

Will just ONE liberal speak out against ANTIFA?

At 9:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bidens* Get Locked Out of White House After Firing of Trump Doorman. No Seriously, It Happened.

President Joe Biden* and first lady Jill Biden were awkwardly left out of the White House on Wednesday without anyone to let them inside. The Daily Mail reported that hours after Biden’s* inauguration, the Bidens* and their entourage of family and friends made their way to their new home — a building vacated earlier that morning by then-President Donald Trump and his own family.

Video shows the pair standing for a few moments as “Hail to the Chief” was playing. On the video shared by the Daily Mail.


At 9:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks, Donald Trump doesn’t have a plan to get this virus under control, I do.
- Biden 2020
Folks, there is nothing I can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months.
Biden 2021


At 10:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Following the science with Joe Biden*.

Biden* is again violating his mask mandate by not wearing a mask while in the White House, which is federal property, in a room with other people.

He also was coughing in his hand, which goes against CDC recommendations.

At 10:51 AM, Blogger rustcoal said...

Good thing trump didn't have the stones to lead his little Eichmanns to the Capitol riot we might all be doing the goose step two step.

At 10:57 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

And the irrelevant WHINING an annoying scratch on a favorite record...that ONE skwalking bird in the yard ruining the songs of all the rest...that fly that wont leave you alone as you try to go to sleep...

At 11:01 AM, Blogger woodenman said...

Chuck, every so often I get into a discussion with you because I forget that you are mentally defected and it is a total waste of time to talk to you.

At 1:14 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

"Your conscience means nothing". This was how JTF/Vern/Chuck/etc. replied to my point about having a conscience to help guide us to being better people, or better Christians.

He has no conscience to appeal to. Facts and reason mean nothing to him. He makes up his own facts and ignores reason.

A little history of the troll called "Clucky" Chuck, JTF(Just the Facts),Vern, etc.

Some years ago there was a person who commented here as "Chuck Moore".

Our troll targeted him by posting as "Chuck Morre".

He left a lot of names here and at my blog: (He didn't know I could view the sources of comments at my blog)

Chuck Morre
Michael Stivic
Tyrone Witherspoon(s)
Rev. Al Sharptoon
Booker T. Washington
Just the Facts
Confused Progressive
Harry The Climate Change Expert
"James Hanson" from Wallingford CT
“JH” from Wallingford CT
“Dave Dubya” from Wallingford CT
"But You Don't Need A Photo ID To Vote"
Harry from Wallingford CT
Smokey Legumski from Wallingford CT
Moduspropogandi from Wallingford CT
Vanessa from Wallingford CT
Suzanne from Wallingford CT
Mitzi from Wallingford CT
Nancy Pelosi from Wallingford CT
Jefferson’s Accordian from Wallingford CT

No matter what he calls himself, he is what he is. (*)

At 2:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Woodenman, you need to stop whining about Trump. And start worrying about the mental condition of Biden*. And while you're at it how about proving your latest laughable claim that Trump stole millions of Syrian oil...haven't prove it yet. I bet you believe Bush 1 flew to Paris in a Blackbird, LOL.

Mofart, did you read this?

Joe Biden* said “I don’t know what I’m signing” on camera as he proceeded to sign an unknown executive order. In the video posted to BitChute, an unidentified person told him to “sign it anyways.”

This comes amid nationwide concerns over Biden*’s apparent cognitive decline.

The video shows Biden*, without a note of humor, say that he has no idea what executive order he is signing. Another person then gestures toward Biden*’s left hand.

Then there was Biden's "salute the Marine" mental lapse moment.

Of course you haven't cause Mofart gets all his news/information from SLATE, THE DAILY KOS, who will keep him in the dark whining about the GOP and Trump for the next 4 years. Anything to deflect from Biden's* cognitive decline, his 40 plus years of doing nothing in Congress, his being the laughing stock of the Obama administration, and his friendship with racists, his racist comments, and bragging about black kids stroking his leg hair.

And he was the BEST the DNC could do? If I were a liberal supporting Biden* I'd be whining to.

At 2:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for the 25th?

The White House calls a "lid" on the first Saturday of this administration so we will not see President Biden* for any public event the rest of the day.

— Kelly O'Donnell (@KellyO) January 23, 2021

This isn’t even funny anymore. It never actually was funny, but now it’s far more serious. Biden* and his campaign assured the country he was perfectly fit and able to handle the duties of president, and yet Biden* is already being hidden from the media four days into the job.

When President Trump got COVID-19, he didn’t let that stop him from running the country, even as Biden* called another lid.

At 2:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone from unions to women to Native American tribes are outraged by Biden*’s far left wing policies.

It’s only human too want laugh at this, but we must recognize these fellow Americans are victims of fake news.

They were promised moderation.

It was a Big Lie.

— Cerno (@Cernovich) January 24, 2021

The Ute tribe is ticked off, but you won’t hear that from the MSM. They’re still selling the big lie and, despite the official statements, are pretending the tribe is HAPPY about it for environmental reasons.

There are millions of American voters who do not want a radical left agenda and are going to get one anyway. Biden* voters. And you better believe Fake Tapper and the Fat Dumb and Bald Guy won’t bring it up.

By they way, why not MSNBC? Because while CNN in collusion with the DNC was selling the centrist Biden*, MSNBC in collusion with the DNC was selling leftist Biden.

That’s how it works now.

At 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Biden* Is A Dictator, His Stormtroopers Used Tear Gas On Protesters At An ICE Facility…

Teargas on the streets of Portland as protesters face off with federal agents outside the I.C.E. facility tonight #Portland #PortlandProtests

— Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) January 24, 2021

At 3:53 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Chuck, you should worry about your own mental condition as you are too stupid to type "Trump and Syrian oil."

At 4:33 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Vern's gonna have a lot more deflecting soon, when Trump's subpoenas and indictment come rolling in.

"Trump, who?"

At 5:04 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Too bad there is not a more intelligent Conservative willing to comment on the Rant, I enjoy a good debate.

At 6:15 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

It would be nice, but conservatism is by nature anti-intellectualism. Beliefs over facts, religion over science, and dogma over reason are how their mentality is constructed.

"Smart conservatives" still believe Trump that the election was stolen.

At 6:27 PM, Blogger JustMusing said...

Fox = T**** TV. What insurrectionist pol will take his place? Rest assured that Fox won't change its strategy until the old white men and nativists that support it and the 1776 report die.

Hit Fox in the pocketbook by letting their corporate sponsors know you won't purchase their products.

"Biden* Is A Dictator, His Stormtroopers Used Tear Gas On Protesters At An ICE Facility" - Really - Stormtroopers? Biden had nothing to do with it. It was the Federal Protective Services that deployed tear gas, pepper balls, and flash bangs.

Trump killed 400,000 plus by ignoring the Covid virus, stalling vaccine deployment, and politicizing masks and PPE. His stormtrooper insurrectionists killed at their riot in the Capitol and Vern complains about tear gas used by the agents charged with protecting Federal Buildings. I guess Vern was ok with the destruction at the Capitol by the murderous rioters.

No doubt Vern was cheering on the Fascist goons that used tear gas to forcible clear peaceful protestors from in front of the White House so T**** could have a photo op with a bible.

We tried it your way for four years with that bent law fucker T**** and just look at the results ( of his 30,000 plus lies (

Piss off Vern. In my opinion, you're just another gaslighting, deflecting, mischaracterizing bobble head nut case calling for the overthrow of Democracy, violent suppression of the Constitutional rule of law, genuflecting to brown shirt authoritarianism.

Move on dude, there is no place left for you here. Oh, I almost forgot, Snowden has a spare room waiting for you; it's called the dictator suite. It requires kissing Putin's ass, obligatory lifetime loyalty to the siloviki, and a mandated subscription to Stalinism. Sounds like an insurrectionists dream. Tah-Tah loser.

At 6:51 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Dave, I could get along with a Conservative who thought the election was stolen, he could present his side and I mine, that is what debating is all about.

But with Chuck, who had been here for 12 or more years, cannot admit even one time that his side could possible be at fault. That is idiocy and suggest a mental problem to me.

At 7:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stormtroopers? Yes Stormtroopers, that's what the media called law enforcement under why not call them that now? Silly me, I forgot Biden* is in office and that changes the narrative. And you just proved it.

Liberals and progressives and Woodenman cannot admit even one time that their side could possible be at fault. That is idiocy and suggest a mental problem to me. Been saying that for 12 years. List the liberals, progressives and socialists on this blog who have found fault with ANTIFA. You can't.

So I just post the news that you, liberals, progressives and socialists either are unaware of or know about and choose to ignore because it goes so against their narrative. And THAT is what really pisses you off.

Oh, and for the record, if you/they were really reading my posts you would know that I condemned the 1/6/ riots. If you/they had read my posts you would know I have not once said the election was stolen. But to do so would put the focus back were it belongs and that is the Biden* administration. And with his lack of mental acuity, that's not going to happen, is it. Sad to think think that Biden* is the best the party of FDR, Truman, LBJ & Kennedy had to offer. And that FACT pisses them off.

As far a "debate", tried that for years with the left, and you know what happened? Good ole Dave and Mofart immediately launch into personal attacks,(Piss off Vern, racist white supremacist, authoritarian, etc) like you are now doing, why? Because they can't win the debate. So now I'm just posting things that while they make you uncomfortable are what is happening NOW under YOUR mentally declining president Biden*. (With an occasional push back).

Honest debate will happen with the first liberal, progressive or socialist who condemns ANTIFA.

At 8:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

CNN “Biden* Inherited Non-Existent Vaccine Distribution Plan”

Also on CNN: “Fauci Says That Our Headline Isn’t True”
"We're certainly not starting from scratch there is activity going on in the distribution." Dr. Fauci, follow the facts.

At 9:34 AM, Blogger TB3 said...

Oh, hey, look at that. The JTFs of the world advocate listening to Fauci now.

That's cute.

At 10:05 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

These GOP congressmen and political pundits in the media calling for "unity" can show us they are serious by working with PRESIDENT BIDEN to clean up the horrible mess Trump left behind.

It's not our job to pander to THEM.


THe impeachment trial should start in the Senate TODAY. There is no need for investigation, Trump PROUDLY pled guilty right in front of the Capitol Jan 6.

if Moscow Mitch wants two weeks then he should agree to pass all PRESIDENT BIDEN's appointments without any delay. He should agree to get the votes to pass PRESIDENT BIDEN's Covid relief package without delay.

For 4 years we have been hearing "elections have consequences". Time to teach that to the dying GOP.

Cue that house WHINER...

At 10:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honest debate will happen with the first liberal, progressive or socialist who condemns ANTIFA.

Still waiting.

At 10:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Odd, but I don't recall ever saying NOT to listen to Dr. Fauci, but the truth has never gotten into TB3's way before so why would it now.

At 10:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keystone pipeline closed.
Fracking stopped
Biden*’s Transportation Nominee Pete Buttigieg
Says Gasoline Tax Hike Possible

Anyone surprised?

At 11:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) raised the alarm about the Democrats’ disturbing crackdown on “domestic terrorism” in the wake of the Capitol riot on January 6. She warned that the domestic terror bill that House Democrats have proposed would “undermine our constitutional rights and freedoms,” and lead to law enforcement targeting “almost half of the country.”

“We don’t have to guess about where this goes or how this ends,” Gabbard said. “When you have people like former CIA Director John Brennan openly talking about how he’s spoken with or heard from appointees and nominees in the Biden* administration who are already starting to look across our country for these types of movements similar to the insurgencies they’ve seen overseas, that in his words, he says make up this ‘unholy alliance’ of religious extremists, racists, bigots, he lists a few others and at the end, even libertarians,” the former congresswoman noted.

Brennan named libertarians as part of the “unholy alliance” including “religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, [and] nativists.” Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald warned that Brennan is suggesting using “the tools that they used to take ISIS off the internet, the tools they used to destroy al-Qaeda,” against political movements opposed to the Left.

Gabbard, a former Democratic presidential candidate, echoed that warning.

“What characteristics are we looking for as we are building this profile of a potential ‘extremist,’ what are we talking about? Religious extremists, are we talking about Christians, evangelical Christians, what is a religious extremist? Is it somebody who is pro-life? Where do you take this?” the former congresswoman asked.

She gave examples. “Okay, well, obviously you have to be a white person, obviously likely male, libertarians. Well, anybody who loves freedom, liberty, maybe has an American flag their house or people who — you know — attended a Trump rally.”

Gabbard warned that this would lead to “a very dangerous undermining of our civil liberties, our freedoms in our Constitution, and a targeting of almost half of the country.”

At 12:19 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

A Conservative who thought the election was stolen has NO evidence to support his conspiracy. All he has are the lies of Trump and his crooked cronies. He will only lie to you. Trump's true believers are a cult, and cults do not debate. They think democrats are socialists and believe we hate America.

They can all go to hell. They are enemies of truth and democracy, and therefore my enemies.

More lies from Vern.
The already-existing Keystone Pipeline (that is, the non-XL version) has already seen at least 21 oil spills and leaks.

If antifa organized their part in Trump's insurrection, I'm all for designating them a terrorist organization. We know for a fact that Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and 3%ers, Blue Lives Matter, etc. were terrorists involved in Trump's insurrection.

Know what ah mean, Vern?

I reject the Big Lie the terrorists embraced. Vern will not. He is a terrorist sympathizer.

At 1:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honest debate will happen with the first liberal, progressive or socialist who condemns ANTIFA.

Still waiting.


President Joe Biden* went to Mass with his family Sunday but stopped the presidential motorcade on the way home so that his son Hunter Biden could make a bagel run.

The motorcade stopped for about nine minutes on the way home from church in Georgetown, according to the press pool, as Hunter Biden went to the window of the bagel shop “Call Your Mother” to pick up a takeout order.

President Joe Biden* remained in the motorcade with Hunter’s daughters Finnegan and Maisy for the duration of the bagel run.

Biden*’s coronavirus response director Jeff Zients is a major investor in the deli, according to The Atlantic’s Edward-Isaac Dovere.

in addition to making good bagels, Call Your Mother has as a major investor Jeff Zients, who is running COVID response for Biden:

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) January 24, 2021


At 1:51 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

Still waiting for a Trump cultists to condemn Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and 3%ers, Blue Lives Matter, etc. who were all terrorists involved in Trump's insurrection.

Why do Trump cultists hate America?

At 2:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

19 oils spills since 2009 for Keystone

2019 train accidents 11434

2019 tanker truck accidents 20

At 2:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honest debate will happen with the first liberal, progressive or socialist who condemns ANTIFA.

Still waiting.

At 2:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberal, socialists, Democrats, progressives & ANTIFA supporters everywhere rejoice!!

President Biden* has revoked a Trump-era executive order that sought to keep foreign countries and companies out of America’s bulk power systems – principally entities associated with the Chinese Communist Party – as part of his “Executive Order on Protecting Public Health and the Environment and Restoring Science to Tackle the Climate Crisis.”

At 3:32 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Looks like transporting petroleum is becoming more trouble than it's worth all around, thanks Clucky!

All the more reason for the Green New deal! Thanks for your support!

At 4:10 PM, Blogger rustcoal said...

Good thing gouliani's law license is written in crayon a 1.3 billion judgement against him may render him totally useless.

But to stay on topic AMANDA GORMAN! And on the other end of the spectrum, sporting the latest in magat anklewear, riley j. williams, who allegedly stole Pelosi's lap top and tried to sell it to commie Russia.

At 6:23 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

What a joy and comfort it is to hear a President speak like a calm, intelligent adult. Taking questions, carefully explaining policy, and no petty childish whining, bragging, or nicknames...

At 7:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mofart lives in Iowa where they have lots of sunshine for solar energy (LOL), and I guess he's ok with living next to a nuke power plant. Or maybe he wants to return to coal and firewood to heat his home in those cold Iowa winters. Or maybe he'd like to have rolling black outs like CA under their green deal. Move if you think it's such great idea.

At 7:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

During the Bush administration the battle cry of anti-war demonstrators was: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
The quote was attributed to Thomas Jefferson.
In 2003 Senator Hillary Clinton riled up an audience with Jeffersonian fervor by shouting, “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic … We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

Not anymore, under the Biden* administration.

At 7:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honest debate will happen with the first liberal, progressive or socialist who condemns ANTIFA.

Still waiting.

At 8:07 PM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

For about the 20th time, I condemn violence by antifa.

Still waiting for a Trump cultists to condemn Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and 3%ers, Blue Lives Matter, etc. who were all terrorists involved in Trump's insurrection.

Why do Trump cultists hate America?

At 8:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Dave, want to debate this?

How about this Resolved: There was voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential election.
Which side do you want to take?

You ok with using the 6 step format of debating?
Step One: Opening.
Step Two: Defining the Topic.
Step Three: Signposting.
Step Four: Rebuttal.
Step Five: Your Arguments.
Step Six: Conclusion.

One post per step.

You reading this Woodeman?

At 9:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There were two promises which defined the presidential campaign of Joe Biden*.

The first promise was that he would not ban fracking, the second, that his administration would shut down the novel coronavirus.

It only took Biden* one day in office to prove to the American people both promises were flat out lies.

During the presidential debates, Biden* lied and claimed he had never supported a ban on fracking in a clear attempt to win over more voters. During an exchange with a voter in Claremont, New Hampshire, one voter asked Biden*, “But what about, say, stopping fracking?”

Biden* replied with a simple, “Yes.”

Aug 31, 2020 – “I am not banning fracking. Let me say that again. I am not banning fracking, no matter how many times Donald Trump lies about me,” – @JoeBiden*

Jan 20, 2020 – @PressSec: Biden* to ban new fracking on federal land.

Biden* made it one of his key campaign promises that his administration would “shut down the virus” more effectively than Trump had. “There’s nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months,” Biden* said on Friday.

At 10:01 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Dave, not all Conservatives are like Chuck so I think you paint with too broad a brush. In politics what you read determines your political personality.

I did a lot of reading at a Conservative site and while the evidence of extensive Democratic election fraud was fairly thin to me I would say there was some of it going on. What is never mentioned was the amount of Republican election fraud that had to be going on as well!

James Howard Kunstler has a site called Clusterfuck Nation which I used to spend a lot of time on debating Conservatives. He wrote The Long Emergency years ago which we are living in right now. He totally disproved the idea that Russia affected our elections in 2016 and his dissection's and political forensics are the best I have ever seen.

At 10:06 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Chuck, I was polite and friendly to you in the past and even defended you from Dave and others when I thought they were being too hard on you but you always turned on me. You have never and will never have an honest debate with anybody.

At 10:10 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

Dave, you missed one of Chucks alter egos and one that is very appropriate for the present, Sore Loser !!

At 2:24 AM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

To date NO ONE has presented any credible evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Fracking SHOULD be banned.

Amazing how some people can be so desperate.

How much of the day do you think Clucky spends digging for these tiny little irrrelevant tidbits, that turn out to be BS anyway?

At 9:58 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...


It is widely understood that Russia's effect on the 2016 election isn't measurable. There's no way of measuring how much voters were influenced by Russian social media efforts. They didn't find evidence they hacked machines. What is measurable is the Trump campaign's meeting with Russians for help, like the Trump Tower meeting.


The question isn't if there was "voter fraud". It is whether it was on a large enough scale, and one-sided, to "steal the election". Trump committed election fraud by trying to strong arm the GA sec of state into "Finding" more voter for him after recounts.

Rules of debate: #5
He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate. Visual materials are permissible, and once introduced, they become available for the opponents' use if desired.

Here are the rules:

1. There are two teams, each consisting of two or three speakers.

2. Each team has two or three constructive speeches, and two to three rebuttal speeches. The affirmative gives the first constructive speech, and the rebuttals alternate: negative, affirmative, negative, affirmative. The affirmative has both the first and last speeches of the debate.

3. When worded as a proposition of policy, the topic requires the affirmative to support some specified action by some particular individual or group. The affirmative has the right to make any reasonable definition of each of the terms of the proposition. If the negative challenges the reasonableness of a definition by the affirmative, the judge must accept the definition of the team that shows better grounds for its interpretation of the term.

4. The affirmative must advocate everything required by the topic itself. No revision of position of a team is permitted during the debate.

5. He who asserts must prove. In order to establish an assertion, the team must support it with enough evidence and logic to convince an intelligent but previously uninformed person that it is more reasonable to believe the assertion than to disbelieve it. Facts must be accurate. Visual materials are permissible, and once introduced, they become available for the opponents' use if desired.

6. In the questioning period, the questioner may ask any fair, clear question that has a direct bearing on the debate. The questioner may use the period to build up any part of his own case, to tear down any part of his opposition's case, or to ascertain facts, such as the opposition's position on a certain issue, that can be used later in the debate. The questioner must confine himself to questions and not make statements, comments, or ask rhetorical questions.

7. Each speaker is questioned as soon as he concludes his constructive speech. The witness must answer the questions without consulting his colleagues.

8. No new constructive arguments may be introduced in the rebuttal period. The affirmative must, if possible, reply to the major negative arguments before the last rebuttal.

9. The judge must base his decision entirely on the material presented, without regard for other material which he may happen to possess.

10. Any gains made outside of the established procedure are disallowed.

Now make your case and define terms to mutual agreement.

At 10:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice try Mofart, as usual you deflect and change the words to fit YOUR agenda. Example?

"widespread voter fraud" The debate offered would be on the question "There was voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential election" Your post proves you know there was voter fraud, thanks for your input.

Dave not what I offered to debate, and you like Mofart, want to change the rules/subject sorry old fart but that's not going to happen.

How about this debate, "Abortion ends stops a human life". Want to run debate that?

At 10:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So very child like. Such powerful use of the English language. So much so that even Mofart understands him. LOL

Biden* In October 2020: You Can’t Legislate Through Executive Orders ‘Unless You’re a Dictator’

Biden*: “Well, I got to get the votes. I got to get the votes. That’s why, you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion, we are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, ‘Well, if you can’t get the votes, by executive order you’re going to do something.’ Things you can’t do by executive order unless you’re a dictator. We’re a democracy. We need consensus.”

At 10:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us turn to Natasha Korecki’s January 19 Politico story “Writing a speech for Biden* can be hell. And that was before the inaugural.” Politico published the story the day before the inauguration of the gentleman from Madame Tussauds as president. The story purports to cover Biden*’s then forthcoming inaugural address, but is more notable for this tardy detail reflecting the gentleman’s declining mental capacity:

For higher-profile remarks, he’d obsessively rehearse portions until he committed them to memory. And at times through the various iterations of outlining remarks, Biden* could grow downright ornery.“I would never say this,” Biden* once snapped at an aide, aghast over the prepared remarks he was reviewing, according to a person in the room during a speech prep session last year. “Where did you get this from?’” The aide explained that Biden* had just said it in a public speech a couple of weeks earlier.

Now it can be hinted, if not told. Some call it “ornery.”

This leak appears to come from somewhere within the Biden* camp. In days to come these leaks will come from sources on the distaff side of the Harris/Biden* administration.

Scott Johnson

The sad thing is we will get to publicly watch the decline of this mans mental ability. Sadder yet is Mofart won't be able to see it.

At 11:00 AM, Blogger Dave Dubya said...

I'll take that as a concession. Every national election will have someone voting where he shouldn't or otherwise unqualified. That isn't up for debate. Yours and Trump's claim of "stolen election"still awaits evidence. The courts have rejected all attempts due to lack of evidence and standing. It is settled.

At 12:06 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Yes there was "voter fraud" in the 2020 election. Several people caught trying to vote for trump twice.

by using "widespread" it illustrates that there was NO FRAUD AT ALL at the level that could change even a local school board election, let alone a national campaign.

All the "widespread fraud" came when Trump CLAIMED the election was "stolen" though to date not one shred of credible evidence has been presented to ANY court to support it.

At 12:09 PM, Blogger Mozart1220 said...

Yeah, it's BIDEN that's got "dementia" LOL

This is the guy that asked why we don;t nuke hurricanes and suggested we "inject disinfectant"


Your turn Clucky.

At 12:45 PM, Blogger woodenman said...

This is in the style of Sore Loser, just better.

So Kellyanne steal her daughters phone and finds nude pictures of the 16 year old in it.

What does she do? Post them online! Now that is Conservative class at its best.


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